Peyton: Bye Bye Colts, Hello Broncos! (was: Bye bye Peyton)

[stevew]

I wonder if Manning could get away with a Decision-esque special. I'm thinking he probably could.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by stevew

I wonder if Manning could get away with a Decision-esque special. I'm thinking he probably could.

Well considering he was cut, it wouldn't quite be the same thing. I still think it would rub people the wrong way, especially since some people thought he was trying to hog his brother's spotlight for doing an interview during Superbowl week.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by stevew

I wonder if Manning could get away with a Decision-esque special. I'm thinking he probably could.

I'm sure there will be plenty of those even without his participation.

[spleen1015]

My money is on Denver at this point. They have the most cap room to sign him and some better WRs.

It is a fantasy, but I would like to see what happens if they sign Manning, Wayne and Clark.

[Thomkal]

The Titans enter the fray?

Lombardi: Peyton Manning to Visit the Tennessee Titans - Music City Miracles

I guess with the owner coming out and publically stating he wants Manning on his team regardless of what his coaches want that would get Manning's attention-but why play for a team divided like that and more importantly play against Indy twice a season-can't see this happening if true that he's going to visit.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

they should. he'd be an upgrade on what, 27 teams? if i was the ravens i would literally throw joe flacco out a window for manning.

[Ksyrup]

Broncos already threw Tebow out a window, but he can fly.

[Rizon]

BREAKING NEWS: The Miami Dolphins are not out of the Peyton Manning bidding yet!!!!!

Reports: Peyton Manning to meet with Dolphins and Titans soon

"We're not out of it," a source told Hyde.

[Daimyo]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

So I can play it both ways in my head, but I'm interested to know what Colts fans think. After seeing the RG3 trade and knowing you probably could have got even more for Luck (let's say for sake of argument another second in 2013) - would you rather start over with Luck or try to win another SB with a hopefully healthy Manning and a defense that you could completely rebuild with a ton of draft picks in the next couple of years?

I definitely would have preferred to keep Manning and use the pick haul to load up for the last 3-4 years of his career.

However, given the circumstances with his health, I think it was probably rational to cut him. How bad would it have been if they paid him $28M and then found out in a few months or right before the start of the season that he had to retire.

... and then once you cut Manning and commit to Luck/RG3 it makes total sense to gut the rest of the team to time your cap hell to coincide with the rookie's learning year. Even without all these cuts the Colts were looking at 3-4 wins tops next year (Relative to this team, the Colts were loaded in Manning's first year and went 3-13). These moves not only clear the cap slate for Luck/RG3's second year but also increase the value of next year's draft picks.

If the new QB is the real deal there is no reason they can't be back in the playoffs in two years and contending in three with these moves.

[Thomkal]

Given their Saturday contract deadline on Kolb, the more time Manning takes, the less likely its going to be Arizona I think.

[larrymcg421]

Even if Manning had to retire, eating $28 million would suck, but they wouldn't be crippled because they'd have a ton of young talent coming in to rebuild with. And without Manning, they'd probably be right back in the same draft spot. I'd take my chance on Manning's health plus huge influx of young talent vs. Luck's chance of being a superstar minus huge influx of young talent.

[bhlloy]

I don't think you have to eat the full 28m if he retires because of injury do you? In terms of cap space there's exemptions and in terms of actual $$$ I'd have thought they could get insurance to cover some of the risk

[Daimyo]

The problem is that if they gave Manning the $28M they'd have $44M of bonus money left to count against the cap ($28M + $16M left from the signing bonus last off-season). If he then retired before June 1st all of that amount would have been applied to this year's cap which would have been catastrophic. Had he retired after June 1st then I think it would have been split evenly over this and next season at $22M/year -- not catastrophic, but certainly crippling especially considering they wouldn't have Luck or RG3 in that scenario and might have acquired enough talent to limp to 6 wins and lose any opportunity at getting a good QB.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Arizona is cutting Levi Brown to make cap room in an attempt to sign Manning.

Perhaps I am wrong, but is releasing starting linemen a valid method of attracting a QB with known neck issues?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Arizona is cutting Levi Brown to make cap room in an attempt to sign Manning.

Perhaps I am wrong, but is releasing starting linemen a valid method of attracting a QB with known neck issues?

It might make him safer.

[stevew]

You can always designate 2 players as a June 1 cut, regardless of when it happens.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Arizona is cutting Levi Brown to make cap room in an attempt to sign Manning.

Perhaps I am wrong, but is releasing starting linemen a valid method of attracting a QB with known neck issues?

Levi Brown is one of the reasons they gave up so many sacks-though to his credit-he finally improved in the second half of this season. But he's now expecting to be paid like he's been that kind of player all along and given the Cards cap problems with or without Manning, it was likely he would be cut.

[fantom1979]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

they should. he'd be an upgrade on what, 27 teams? if i was the ravens i would literally throw joe flacco out a window for manning.

Baltimore has been my dark horse pick every since the Manning might be cut news broke. They have had a nice team for the past decade, the have a pro bowl running back, and nice possession receiver and a up and coming deep threat.

I was really hoping that my Jets would be a major player, instead I get Sanchez for another 5 years.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by fantom1979

Baltimore has been my dark horse pick every since the Manning might be cut news broke. They have had a nice team for the past decade, the have a pro bowl running back, and nice possession receiver and a up and coming deep threat.

I was really hoping that my Jets would be a major player, instead I get Sanchez for another 5 years.

If he does end up in Baltimore here's to hoping they schedule the press conference for 2 AM, and he shows up to it in a Mayflower moving van.

[fantom1979]

Originally Posted by Rando

If he does end up in Baltimore here's to hoping they schedule the press conference for 2 AM, and he shows up to it in a Mayflower moving van.

Didn't even think about that angle. Nice.

[Daimyo]

So, after all that the Colts re-sign Wayne? Its an affordable deal and I'm happy as a fan to have him back. (and even more happy they chose to keep him over Garcon...)

I guess it makes sense from the angle of having at least one experienced guy around to help Luck in his first two years and hopefully help develop a new stable of young WRs.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Rando

If he does end up in Baltimore here's to hoping they schedule the press conference for 2 AM, and he shows up to it in a Mayflower moving van.

This post gets a big thumbs up.

[Kodos]

Crap.

Reports: Miami Dolphins no longer in play for Peyton Manning – Miami Dolphins – Sun-Sentinel

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Daimyo

So, after all that the Colts re-sign Wayne? Its an affordable deal and I'm happy as a fan to have him back. (and even more happy they chose to keep him over Garcon...)

I guess it makes sense from the angle of having at least one experienced guy around to help Luck in his first two years and hopefully help develop a new stable of young WRs.

+1. Very, very happy the Colts brought back Wayne for the reasons you mentioned.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Crap.

Reports: Miami Dolphins no longer in play for Peyton Manning – Miami Dolphins – Sun-Sentinel

In other surprising news: Lance Bass is gay.

[Kodos]

Wha?

[Ksyrup]

When the team "leaked" a couple days ago that they weren't out of it, they were out of it.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

the world wide leader is chasing mannings van in a news copter.

[Ksyrup]

To be fair, so is NFL Network.

[Ksyrup]

NFL Network ‏ @nflnetwork
The plane! The plane! The @Denver_Broncos plane has landed (tune-in for footage of the arrival).

[Ksyrup]

Awful Announcing ‏ @awfulannouncing
I kid you not, ESPN has coverage of a white van driving down the road with "Pursuit of Manning" and a splitscreen.

[Buccaneer]

According to a tweet by Denver television station 9News, a plane with the same tail number that picked up Peyton Manning last week has registered a flight plan with Flight Aware to fly to Raleigh, N.C. Friday morning. Manning has been working out at Duke University, which is near Raleigh.

[Ksyrup]

That's what's being plastered all over NFL Network and ESPN right now.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i haven't been this riveted since ed werder camped out in brett favres driveway.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i want chase music! a drone strike! a fiery collision! manning running from the van naked!

[Ksyrup]

@MikeKlis: Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering $60 million over 5 years.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

@MikeKlis: Broncos meeting with Peyton Manning, offering $60 million over 5 years.

That must be without bonuses?

[Ksyrup]

$30M guaranteed

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

$30M guaranteed

Ah

[Ksyrup]

BOOOM


Chris Mortensen ‏ @mortreport
Filed to ESPN: Third team in Manning race that has emerged is 49ers - Manning worked out for Harbaugh & took physical this week

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

BOOOM


Chris Mortensen ‏ @mortreport
Filed to ESPN: Third team in Manning race that has emerged is 49ers - Manning worked out for Harbaugh & took physical this week

Do they have the cap room? Should be really close.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Rizon

Do they have the cap room? Should be really close.

Supposedly 20m as of yesterday. Hmmm....

[k0ruptr]

Had a feeling the 49ers might sneak in there.

[Izulde]

Peyton to 49ers would be awesome and hilarious, cuz it'd be an inverse Montana.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm not a fan by any means BUT I think the 49ers are probably the team (in play) that would be closest to winning it all with the addition of Manning.

[Ksyrup]

SC_DougFarrar ‏ @SC_DougFarrar
CAA reps Smith and Manning, and I think it would be a win-win. Smith on an open market desperate for QBs could inflate his value.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'm not a fan by any means BUT I think the 49ers are probably the team (in play) that would be closest to winning it all with the addition of Manning.

No doubt. As long as Manning isn't broken down, or lost a lot, I would have to say they would be favorites to win it all.

[JediKooter]

Looks like the Raiders just traded their 1st round draft picks in 2015, 16, & 17 and Carson Palmer to the Broncos, in return for the promise that the Broncos won't sign Manning.

[Kodos]

Out of the teams in the hunt, I like the Broncos the best. But, wherever he goes - bingo! - my new favorite team for as long as he is there.

[ISiddiqui]

With that defense and Manning at the helm (with Frank Gore at RB), the entire league is likely shaking at the thought.