WW CXXVI: Wolves in Asgard - Game Over (Result in Post 2538)

[Racer]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Did it say anything when you got the sword?

Sorry if this is a naive question, but I haven't had an item yet so I have no idea if it's a bland PM or what

Each time I've received mistletoe it's been a bland pm.

[MrBug708]

That's also discounting that Eaglefan might have a fake?

[Telle]

Where is the mistletoe now? I'm thinking along the lines of if the other wolf got passed two items, one would go random.

[MrBug708]

Is the mistletoe useless now with the death of Loki?

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Other than Dubb, the first 11 people to sign up for this game have died

LOL, I noticed this as well. The first 11 people who signed up are all dead. Of the next 10, only one is dead (dubb).

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Other than Dubb, the first 11 people to sign up for this game have died

If I were Racer I'd be freaked out.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Telle

Where is the mistletoe now? I'm thinking along the lines of if the other wolf got passed two items, one would go random.

I have it.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Racer

I have it.

Ah. Well so much for that theory then. Shy of a possible conversion, you're one of the most trusted villagers.

[jeheinz72]

We can't be looking at 6 total wolves, can we? That just seems steep.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

If I were Racer I'd be freaked out.

Well, barring anything unforseen, Mauboy is going to be lynched and Racer might be a night target

[Racer]

By the way, if we still have a bodyguard in this game, I might be worth protection tonight given that about every roled players aside from EagleFan and the hidden role person are out and I'm a top the trust list (unless someone else has hidden their role all this time). I suppose there is Mauboy to if he's telling the truth. Logically, I seem like a likely choice by the wolves tonight.

[MrBug708]

I think they would need to gamble between you and I. You are a stronger player than I am but I would be the logical gamble for a night kill because the mistletoe would be up for grabs (if they want the mistletoe)

Mauboy, if he isn't lynched today, would be a candidate, but why kill him if he's telling the truth and isn't lynched, because we'd be confused over his role

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think they would need to gamble between you and I. You are a stronger player than I am but I would be the logical gamble for a night kill because the mistletoe would be up for grabs (if they want the mistletoe)

Mauboy, if he isn't lynched today, would be a candidate, but why kill him if he's telling the truth and isn't lynched, because we'd be confused over his role

I may not pass it to you for that very reason. I'm also considering Hoops who I don't remotely trust. However, that would still keep it in the hands of just three living players (or two if one of us die). It makes it much easier to nail a wolf that way if EagleFan ends up dead then if I say pass it to someone like Telle or Barkeep.

[MrBug708]

Hoops might not be a bad choice. If we go Mau and he's good/bad and Hoops is killed at the night, it sucks that we lost a villager in Hoops, but it answers a lot more questions

[jeheinz72]

If we lynch Mau and he comes up good, there is none chance hoops would get nightkilled

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

If we lynch Mau and he comes up good, there is none chance hoops would get nightkilled

If he has the mistletoe, it might be enough to get him killed.

Either way, whatever Racer does, it's best that he doesn't say what it was til a minute after the confirmed deadline. Just so we know where he sent it and he is nightkilled

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

We can't be looking at 6 total wolves, can we? That just seems steep.

I think 5+ convert is entirely possible given how many roled villagers are in the game.

[MrBug708]

I'd say if EF and Racer are converts, the village is probably toast

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'd say if EF and Racer are converts, the village is probably toast

EF or* Racer

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'd say if EF and Racer are converts, the village is probably toast

Is it even possible for EF to be converted when he is Balder? That would seem a little unfair.

[MrBug708]

Very true

[MrBug708]

I was more reflecting on how other people thought that EF had been converted (a few days ago)

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I was more reflecting on how other people thought that EF had been converted (a few days ago)

Yeah, I was just curious because you weren't the first person to mention it. Hoops mentioned it last last night.

[EagleFan]

I have had another vision...

[Telle]

Is this one any more clear?

[EagleFan]

This one from Autumn and I think I can read much more into it.

Seems that Darth could make fakes items.

Also, Loki may have been able to perform seperate actions as well (I read that as seperate from normal wolf actions). I also read that as in the Loki attack was seperate from the wolf action last night. Hopefully not reading too much into that.

Flipping back to the message as there is another piece to it that I am trying to put together.

[EagleFan]

okay, I mispoke. Darth seems to have created the fake hammer. It was specific about that. Not sure if he could do other items.

Thor seems to have been killed by a knife in the back. That must tie into something as it seemed quite specific. Will re-read again to make sure I am not missing somethinig else.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

What about the hammer? Hoops how do you explain real hammer/fake hammer?

Best I can offer is that I got a hammer, had no reason to believe it was fake, and moved it over to Chubby/Thor as my night action.

My actions were entirely consistent with what I did with the mistletoe earlier in the game.

I never really got to spinning my wheels too much on the fake hammer, other than to hope that was the cause of the "no kill" Night 2. But my posting count on this was considerably less than many other players because I didn't know how to wring any information out on this topic.

[EagleFan]

That's pretty much the idea behind the vision.

Will check back in later to see what everyone thinks. Feeling better about my vote at this point.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Racer

I may not pass it to you for that very reason. I'm also considering Hoops who I don't remotely trust. However, that would still keep it in the hands of just three living players (or two if one of us die). It makes it much easier to nail a wolf that way if EagleFan ends up dead then if I say pass it to someone like Telle or Barkeep.

I'm happy to take it again. Whatever you think is best.

I would like to have some future value in this game besides being lynched after mauboy.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

okay, I mispoke. Darth seems to have created the fake hammer. It was specific about that. Not sure if he could do other items.

Thor seems to have been killed by a knife in the back. That must tie into something as it seemed quite specific. Will re-read again to make sure I am not missing somethinig else.

Loki used a dagger to kill Heimdell - that is the best I can come up with although if something jumps out at me on the items list in a minute I'll chime in with that.

[EagleFan]

Quick thought. This pretty much says that Telle started out with the real hammer. If he can create the fake a wolf would hand it to him while saying they were giving the hammer to someone else and have Darth hand the fake to that person.

Glares at hoops...

[EagleFan]

Don't give the mistletoe to hoops.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Don't give the mistletoe to hoops.

That's fine too. Like I said, whatever you guys think is best.

But if it isn't going to me, I would try to suggest someone who isn't going to either be night killed or getting another item, thus increasing chance of item conflict/random pass.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Quick thought. This pretty much says that Telle started out with the real hammer. If he can create the fake a wolf would hand it to him while saying they were giving the hammer to someone else and have Darth hand the fake to that person.

Glares at hoops...

Glare away. I was told by Narcizo that he had been the one to pass the item to me. I've got no reason to doubt him, especially as a dead villager. I've been 100% open about what I did with my items, even the damn sword that I forgot to send in the PM (which went to Telle and then to mauboy).

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

That's fine too. Like I said, whatever you guys think is best.

But if it isn't going to me, I would try to suggest someone who isn't going to either be night killed or getting another item, thus increasing chance of item conflict/random pass.

I think Racer needs to guess who to send the mistletoe to to avoid getting it to the wolves. Sending it to an uncleared player would be foolish

[hoopsguy]

Well, the uncleared list isn't terribly long. And sending it to EF directly isn't an option. So Racer gets to make an interesting decision. I'll offer input on other candidates if he wants to hear it.

[MrBug708]

EF can't receive it?

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

EF can't receive it?

Yeah I think it could/would kill him.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Racer

LOL, I noticed this as well. The first 11 people who signed up are all dead. Of the next 10, only one is dead (dubb).

I should have waited longer to sign up

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Quick thought. This pretty much says that Telle started out with the real hammer. If he can create the fake a wolf would hand it to him while saying they were giving the hammer to someone else and have Darth hand the fake to that person.

Glares at hoops...

This is where I was at before the vision. The vision just entrenches my view.

[Barkeep49]

Do we have a vote count?

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Telle

Votes as of post #2446:

6 - mauboy - Barkeep (2329), hoopsguy (2342), jeheinz (2398), Telle (2402), EagleFan (2443), Racer (2446)

Nightfall: hoopsguy

Yet to vote: mauboy, Lathum, MrBug

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Do we have a vote count?

Runaway on Mau at the moment.

[Barkeep49]

Thanks.

[MrBug708]

This is more of a formality, barring anything else coming from EF

Vote Mauboy

[Lathum]

well, I came back to get caught up after a long day of vacationing but it looks like no need to right now

[EagleFan]

Wait, Lathum's still alive? He must be a wolf!!!

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This is where I was at before the vision. The vision just entrenches my view.

So for those who seem to be resolved to vote for me tomorrow - I would like for you to at least start considering two things:
1.) who would be your second choice behind me?
2.) what are you going to learn when I am revealed as a villager?

I don't need those answers before the deadline - but I at least hope you are considering them because it sure feels like I won't be alive to see Day 8 based on the current mood in the room.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So for those who seem to be resolved to vote for me tomorrow - I would like for you to at least start considering two things:
1.) who would be your second choice behind me?
2.) what are you going to learn when I am revealed as a villager?

I don't need those answers before the deadline - but I at least hope you are considering them because it sure feels like I won't be alive to see Day 8 based on the current mood in the room.

For #1, I don't know but we'll have two more nights and one more day of information at our disposal when we make that decision.

#2 I'd have to give some more thought to and will feel ready to discuss this tomorrow with you .

[mauchow]

It's to late to switch off me.

My reveal was not fake but I understand why people don't believe me. It did not work out the way I wanted it to as far as the sword goes. Believe me. This one time!