2010 NFL Offseason Thread - Offseason ends at 6 pm est - Page 6

Pumpy Tudors · 02-23-2010, 08:16 AM

tomlinson to cleveland obv

Neuqua · 02-23-2010, 12:56 PM

Eagles release Westbrook

albionmoonlight · 02-23-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Eagles release Westbrook

Concussions are nothing to mess with. I hope that he hangs them up.

Dr. Sak · 02-23-2010, 01:00 PM

Best of luck to Westbrook.

I hope the Eagles cut the Andrews sisters too.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-23-2010, 06:12 PM

I'm disappointed that they cut Westbrook, but it is probably best for him to retire with that many concussions. Hopefully, he takes this as a cue to do so.

Crapshoot · 02-23-2010, 07:20 PM

This is why I will never ever fault a player for getting his while he can ; team's chew them up and discard them like used rags irrespective of contracts (with the requisite salary cap hits) - there's no loyalty there. Why a player should be held to a higher standard makes no sense to me.

gstelmack · 02-23-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

This is why I will never ever fault a player for getting his while he can ; team's chew them up and discard them like used rags irrespective of contracts (with the requisite salary cap hits) - there's no loyalty there. Why a player should be held to a higher standard makes no sense to me.

It's not so much that as players that are GETTING what they can and get annoyed. They don't have to sign their contract, and if they want to pay back a prorated part of their signing bonus they can walk away at any time.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-24-2010, 03:32 PM

Patriots News

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Kodos · 02-24-2010, 03:36 PM

Spoiler

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-24-2010, 03:37 PM

Spoiler

Logan · 02-24-2010, 03:37 PM

I got it right away and laughed Ronnie.

FrogMan · 02-24-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Patriots News

Spoiler

FM

Kodos · 02-24-2010, 03:51 PM

Spoiler

JonInMiddleGA · 02-24-2010, 04:30 PM

Athens police investigating an incident at a local bar where an 18 year old claims he was punched in the face by Knowshon Moreno. Police aren't yet sure what happened since the alleged victim was drunk at the time & had to be filled in on the events by his friends later.
Student: Knowshon threw KO punch || OnlineAthens.com

Honolulu_Blue · 02-24-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Athens police investigating an incident at a local bar where an 18 year old claims he was punched in the face by Knowshon Moreno. Police aren't yet sure what happened since the alleged victim was drunk at the time & had to be filled in on the events by his friends later.
Student: Knowshon threw KO punch || OnlineAthens.com

Moreno got into a fight at bar with a drunken 18 year old? He should knowshon better than to get involved in that kind of nonsense.

molson · 02-24-2010, 04:42 PM

And RIP Mosi Tatupu. I think he was my first ever favorite athlete as a kid. Probably because I liked his name.

And David Patten FTW. I have no idea if that's a good signing but he's a guy who I'll just root for wherever he is.

Swaggs · 02-24-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Moreno got into a fight at bar with a drunken 18 year old? He should knowshon better than to get involved in that kind of nonsense.

He probably shouldn't go to bars anymoreno.

Dr. Sak · 02-24-2010, 04:48 PM

Logan · 02-24-2010, 04:50 PM

Was watching that live with my brother in law who's a big Eagle fan and pointed out right away that it wasn't Westbrook. Amazing how that can happen.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-24-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

He probably shouldn't go to bars anymoreno.

Good point.

gstelmack · 02-24-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

And RIP Mosi Tatupu. I think he was my first ever favorite athlete as a kid. Probably because I liked his name.

Not my favorite as a kid (Grogan, Yaz, and Orr), but definitely a name I remember, and I even root for his son on the Seahawks just because.

Logan · 02-24-2010, 11:05 PM

Umm...

stevew · 02-24-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

He probably shouldn't go to bars anymoreno.

He should Knowshon better.

And punching an 18 year old in the face who is drunk at a bar is not really high on my list of crimes the Police should be investigating.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-24-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Moreno got into a fight at bar with a drunken 18 year old? He should knowshon better than to get involved in that kind of nonsense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

He probably shouldn't go to bars anymoreno.

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Originally Posted by stevew

He should Knowshon better.

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Originally Posted by stevew

He should Knowshon better.

And punching an 18 year old in the face who is drunk at a bar is not really high on my list of crimes the Police should be investigating.

Umm...

Logan · 02-24-2010, 11:15 PM

Someone find steve the drunk guy thread.

Swaggs · 02-25-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Someone find steve the drunk guy thread.

He probably shouldn't drink and post anymoreno.

Swaggs · 02-25-2010, 10:25 AM

Looks like the Steelers pulled off a bit of a surprise by signing the Big Snack (Casey Hampton) to a 3-year/$21-million ($11M guaranteed) deal, rather than tagging him. And then, they put the franchise tag on kicker Jeff Reed. That will be around $2.4-million this season -- which is a little more than I'd like, but he is a pretty reliable kicker when he isn't pummelling public bathrooms.

I like both moves, actually. Essentially, two more years of Hampton is probably doable, since he is a just a 2-down guy for the most part. I'd like to see them consider another NT in the first couple rounds of this draft, as there look to be some good options for 3-4 teams, but now we aren't married to taking one in the first round.

Dr. Sak · 02-25-2010, 10:26 AM

Under 21 year old women in the Burg rejoice as they know they will still be able to get into McFadden's underage with Jeff Reed!

Doug5984 · 02-25-2010, 10:32 AM

Saints have tendered LT Jermon Bushrod with the 2nd round tender, same for Zach Strief. Usama Young got the 3rd round.

I like the Bushrod one, I'm hoping we can sign Jamal Brown to a long term deal, and if we get that done then I have no problem letting Bushrod go. If someone wants to trade for Brown then we get to match an offer for Bushrod, or we keep them all and are very deep at the position again.

Bushrod played pretty good this year, Dallas he wasn't great but that was just 1 bad game- so some teams might like to go after him.

albionmoonlight · 02-25-2010, 02:44 PM

NFL, players union spend nearly two hours in talks, leave without comment - ESPN

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INDIANAPOLIS -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith spent about 1 hour, 40 minutes working on a new collective bargaining agreement Thursday, then left without saying a word.

The two sides met in an Indianapolis hotel ballroom as the league's annual scouting combine began.

Goodell remains hopeful the two sides can reach a deal before March 2011 when the CBA expires.

If they do not have a new deal before March 5, the league will have its first non-salary cap season since 1993, and players are anticipating a lockout before the start of the 2011 season.

Smith was joined in the room by several player representatives including Jeff Saturday of Indianapolis and Mike Vrabel of Kansas City.

Goodell brought a group of league executives including executive vice president and general counsel Jeff Pash.

The meeting was supposed to last about one hour but went longer than expected. Goodell and Smith both declined to take questions afterward, and the player reps also did not take questions.

Goodell appeared to be in good spirits when he entered the room. He smiled and hugged one player before negotiations began. When the session broke up, both sides came out expressionless.

Smith has repeatedly said he expects NFL owners to lock out players before the start of the 2011 season, and the union has been telling players to plan appropriately so their families can have a similar lifestyle if there is a lockout.

The NFLPA also sent out a memo Tuesday saying it does not expect a new deal to be in place by March 5 when free agents can start signing with new teams.

Smith has said the sides have had 12 general bargaining sessions to discuss issues related to developing a new CBA and that there have been more than 30 overall bargaining sessions with the league in the past six months.

I'd take this as good news. Now, anything can change, and I still think that a lockout is more likely than not.

But, negotiations that tend to go longer than anticipated means that the people negotiating felt that progress was being made. Also, the lack of response to the media is another sign that some actual serious negotiations happened that neither party wanted to upset.

Of course, it may just be that they always intended to take longer than 1 hour and that they are each too professional to come right out and start negotiating in the media while the conference room chairs are still warm. But, it is a better sign than if Smith had stormed out of the room after 30 minutes, found the first person with a microphone he could see and launched into talking points about how the league is not willing to meet the players halfway and that they are farther apart now than they have been at any point in the process, etc.

Basically, no bad news is good news.

Radii · 02-28-2010, 01:40 AM

NFL considers changing OT format for playoffs - ESPN

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An NFL spokesman said Saturday the league could change its overtime format for playoff games at a meeting next month.

Under the new format, both teams would get the ball at least once unless the first team to get the ball scores a touchdown, Greg Aiello said. If the first team to get the ball makes a field goal and the other team ties the game, action would continue until a team scores again.

That seems the best option to me. I hate the idea of using the college system in the NFL, but this could work well.

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2010, 01:45 AM

why just for the playoffs? that seems half-assed.

"yeah we acknowledge the current setup is fucked up, but we're only going to change it for the playoffs."

gstelmack · 02-28-2010, 07:21 AM

You'll see a lot more teams play for OT rather than try to win in regulation with that format.

Logan · 02-28-2010, 10:20 AM

So one of the issues we hear is "one team never gets the ball"...which this doesn't solve at all.

Greyroofoo · 02-28-2010, 10:24 AM

I'd be satisfied with a 'first team to 6 points' format

RainMaker · 02-28-2010, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

NFL, players union spend nearly two hours in talks, leave without comment - ESPN

I'd take this as good news. Now, anything can change, and I still think that a lockout is more likely than not.

But, negotiations that tend to go longer than anticipated means that the people negotiating felt that progress was being made. Also, the lack of response to the media is another sign that some actual serious negotiations happened that neither party wanted to upset.

Of course, it may just be that they always intended to take longer than 1 hour and that they are each too professional to come right out and start negotiating in the media while the conference room chairs are still warm. But, it is a better sign than if Smith had stormed out of the room after 30 minutes, found the first person with a microphone he could see and launched into talking points about how the league is not willing to meet the players halfway and that they are farther apart now than they have been at any point in the process, etc.

Basically, no bad news is good news.

I still think it gets settled. Neither side can afford an extended lockout.

judicial clerk · 02-28-2010, 11:17 AM

I wish they would negotiate predetermined rookie contracts based on draft position. It would end holdouts and bring salaries for the first few picks under control. As it works now, having the #1 pick is a punishment more than a blessing.

Celeval · 02-28-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I'd be satisfied with a 'first team to 6 points' format

I'd say four or five. A team that comes out, gets an immediate safety, then a FG should win.

albionmoonlight · 02-28-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by judicial clerk

I wish they would negotiate predetermined rookie contracts based on draft position. It would end holdouts and bring salaries for the first few picks under control. As it works now, having the #1 pick is a punishment more than a blessing.

Yup. They could still give the same amount of money to the rookies--just shift a lot of it down from the top 10 picks into the first three rounds.

Also, to throw the agents a bone on this point, you could say that the contracts for players drafted in the first three rounds are fully guaranteed.

albionmoonlight · 02-28-2010, 12:41 PM

dola: and how hard is it to change overtime to say that the first team to score 4 or more points wins?

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 01:13 PM

Changing NFL overtime is the worst idea in the NFL since the Seahawks switched to those awful uniforms they wear now.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-28-2010, 02:38 PM

I suppose we could have a draft thread, but it can go here as well. C.J. Spiller ran a 4.28 today.

Izulde · 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I suppose we could have a draft thread, but it can go here as well. C.J. Spiller ran a 4.28 today.

We know who the Raiders are gonna draft now.

DeToxRox · 02-28-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I suppose we could have a draft thread, but it can go here as well. C.J. Spiller ran a 4.28 today.

Spiller's official time was a 4.37. Best ran the best official 40 for RB's with a 4.35.

Radii · 02-28-2010, 02:56 PM

NFL Events: Combine Top Performers

nfl.com is listing Clemson WR Jacoby Ford as running a 4.28. He'll look great lining up across from Heyward-Bey.

CU Tiger · 02-28-2010, 05:18 PM

Actually kinda disappointing for Ford, he has reportedly been running computer timed 4.15s with US Olympic sprint coaches in recent weeks.

If they would have thrown a ball to Spiller, he would have improved a tenth.

JediKooter · 02-28-2010, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Changing NFL overtime is the worst idea in the NFL since the Seahawks switched to those awful uniforms they wear now.

+73

JediKooter · 02-28-2010, 05:21 PM

Chargers looking at bringing back Chuck Muncie. They say it's a cost saving move.

stevew · 03-01-2010, 02:09 PM

Thomas Jones is getting cut by the Jets.

albionmoonlight · 03-01-2010, 02:15 PM

I am stealing this idea from somewhere, but if the NFL really wanted to make overtime exciting, then it could have the coaches submit sealed bids at the end of regulation on what yardline they want their offense to take the ball. Whichever coach is willing to start the closest to his own goal line gets to start on offense. If the two bids tie, then you flip a coin (or maybe let the visiting team have the ball).

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Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Was watching that live with my brother in law who's a big Eagle fan and pointed out right away that it wasn't Westbrook. Amazing how that can happen.

02-24-2010, 11:05 PM	#272
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Umm...

02-24-2010, 11:15 PM	#275
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Someone find steve the drunk guy thread.

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Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	Saints have tendered LT Jermon Bushrod with the 2nd round tender, same for Zach Strief. Usama Young got the 3rd round. I like the Bushrod one, I'm hoping we can sign Jamal Brown to a long term deal, and if we get that done then I have no problem letting Bushrod go. If someone wants to trade for Brown then we get to match an offer for Bushrod, or we keep them all and are very deep at the position again. Bushrod played pretty good this year, Dallas he wasn't great but that was just 1 bad game- so some teams might like to go after him.

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Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	So one of the issues we hear is "one team never gets the ball"...which this doesn't solve at all.

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