Werewolf CXIII: 2010 NFL Draft (WOLVES WIN! #1 Pick: Crimson Fox) - Page 6

ntndeacon · 03-31-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

That's a silly thought. If I were a wolf, I wouldn't want my peers to ruin my brand new experience with this sort of game. We might never have a game like this again, and I;'m enjoying the different-ness of the game, I wouldn't want a co-wolf getting in the way of that, just for a ploy that may or may not work, but certainly is not fun for me.

And at the end of the day, this is about fun, not necessarily winning, no matter what side I'm on, villager or wolf. With a new mechanic, that's my focus, not really the WW side, but the NFL draft side. No way would I want to ruin my fun.

It is not a silly thought since I think it has happened before. And your insistence that there is no way it could of happened in that manner in this game does not decrease your likely wolfitude in my eyes. I am not to the point of voting for you but I did want a ploy that has been done and done well out there for us to consider.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I was taken down this morning, not as part of the night action. It was hours later.

Let me just ask, Jackal, did you speculate on rumors about me? I'd like an answer one way or the other please.

I didn't do anything, Abe. My only power in this game was duking, I have no control over anything that happens in the NFL-side except for how many energy points I use.

KWhit · 03-31-2010, 03:00 PM

Ugh. Forgot to put in any points for today. No wonder I floundered.

Abe Sargent · 03-31-2010, 03:16 PM

Date night was moved to Wednesday this week, so I'll be less in that normal, and out for several hours ater work

Abe Sargent · 03-31-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Vote Abe

Something about him just doesn't sit right with me.

It's my sexiness!

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

It's my sexiness!

This is one of those unfortunate times where, as a GM, I have to step in and make an important comment:

You're a kicker for God's sake!

J23 · 03-31-2010, 03:52 PM

I almost put in as a punter just to one up Abe.

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Todd McShay's live blog from the Combine...

Ranking things from what I saw in the 40, it's gotta look something like this:

1- Schmidty
2- Crimson Fox
3- Jackal
4- J23
5- ntndeacon
6- hoops
7- Darth Vilus
8- Henry
9- Abe
10- CR
11- KWhit
12- Heinz

I look forward to seeing how these numbers effect Mel's Big Board 3.0 tonight.

Wooooo! That's right, DV. Can't catch me!

J23 · 03-31-2010, 03:58 PM

Glad you posted that btw CF. I missed that wall of blue text earlier when I was talking about my 10 points I spent.

I guess this is what happens when I try to get work done and casually alt-tab while macros are running.

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

This is one of those unfortunate times where, as a GM, I have to step in and make an important comment:

You're a kicker for God's sake!

A kicker with a gimpy leg even...

Abe Sargent · 03-31-2010, 04:26 PM

Alright, I'm leaving for a few hours in a moment, catch you folks after a while!

jeheinz72 · 03-31-2010, 06:19 PM

I'm nearly done for the day - anyone have thoughts?

J23 · 03-31-2010, 06:27 PM

I'm headed out shortly for the evening. With two votes on me, I thought I'd just say I'm a vanilla villager, so it's not the worst thing to happen if I get lynched here. I just don't think that we really learn anything by it in this case. I guess the good thing from me potentially getting lynched is at least the village won't lose another roled villager from it.

I'm leaving my vote where it is despite being tempted to put it on Abe. I'm guessing he's just reading things wrong when it comes to my missing a post by PB and in regards to assuming Jackal was the one messing up his performance.

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 06:55 PM

Is the logic in voting Henry solely because they want to "learn from Day 1 vote"? If so, so be it. I just feel like I personally learned enough from him being under pressure ... time will tell which side is right on that one, I suppose.

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Nah, I'll just go ahead and tell you, I think it was the Jackal. I mentioned in in teh thread, and as I tghink about it, it makes sense. Jackal was ahead of me, so why target me by someone else, especially since I'm not a threat for any position. the only person to terget me making sense is the #1 guy taking down teh #2 guy.

So I think it was Jackal

Am I missing something here? Wasn't Jackal shown to be the duke, and thus a known villager?

Do villagers have the ability to drag down other villagers? I just double-checked the rules and my PM to make sure I wasn't missing out on some fun sabotage ability but I don't see it. I've assumed it was only wolves who could target someone.

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

There may be rewards for players that are the top daily performer in the two events.

-Possible Roles (HOWEVER there may be some other "abilities" at play as well)-

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Am I missing something here? Wasn't Jackal shown to be the duke, and thus a known villager?

Do villagers have the ability to drag down other villagers? I just double-checked the rules and my PM to make sure I wasn't missing out on some fun sabotage ability but I don't see it. I've assumed it was only wolves who could target someone.

Not sure if this is a place where I should sincerely step in as a GM but I will direct you to both of the above listed portions of the rules page.

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 07:11 PM

I'll almost certainly be back on before deadline, but figured I should get a vote out there.

NTN gets it because he is one of the leading candidates at the moment and because it felt like he was casting out several ideas (QB, wolves faking poor performance) without really following through on any of them based on my quick read. That, plus I am interested to see if the candidate positioned by Heinz is a villager or wolf.

That isn't supposed to be a "if NTN is lynched as a villager we all vote Heinz tomorrow" post ... more me working through my thought process right now on a couple of players I have higher on my suspect list than others. Sometimes those types of situations work themselves out when those two candidates are forced near the top of the voting pile.

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

3- Damn, knew I forgot one. There are players out there with skills that do not equate to roles. They have the ability to help/hurt other players in the individual tasks. These skills do no necessarily align with wolf/villager affiliation.

Hoops, I was under the impression that this was a free for all (with wolves) because of this post and people were being cutthroat.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2010, 07:25 PM

I am leaving until after the deadline, so I have to put in a vote.

Fact is, I don't like the options given out.

I'm not a big fan of the vote henry to see what happened Day One concept, not this game. I don't really get a wolf vibe off of henry, and it always seems like those end up villager-vs-villager.

I'm not ready to go "conspiracy theory" on Abe getting slagged by someone's ability, especially since that is exactly what I believe happened to me at the Pro Day event last night.

The J23 votes feel like a reach to me. Plenty of people in a rush will glaze over posts, even blue posts in the shortest game threads.

This is not to say that any of these guys aren't wolves, but I'm not ready to say so on what we have seen so far.

That leads me to jeheinz's analysis. I actually have a problem with jeheinz analysis, in that it presumes that The Jackal voters are of special interest because he is a villager. But it's Day 1 and no one knows anything. Sure, one could argue wolves know and that's why this works with heinz's analysis, but it also means gullible villagers who don't know anything are just as likely to make the mistake of this vote. Not like The Jackal gave us any hints (that I am aware of anyway).

Putting aside my concerns there, the two people of interest left here are ntndeacon and hoops. There are votes for ntndeacon, and people have ignored hoops because heinz said he's getting a strong villager vibe from hoops.

That doesn't match my feel, though. It's entirely a gut feel, but I don't have a good vibe on hoops right now.

He did the whole trust list "The Jackal & Self" thing, which I can't stand because right away none of us can buy into the analysis. If it's later in the game and he's tossing out hypotheticals that require him to not be a wolf, I understand. This early on, though, with only one cleared player and ten potential wolves or whatever, it has the feel of someone trying to lay groundwork for himself as being someone we can trust, without actually doing anything. Plus, there was no actual analysis that I can recall, not of the wolf part of the game anyway.

Second, the analysis hoops has tried to do has focused on the draft lists and establishing points. He has made a big deal of that, but that's wolf game neutral, more or less. That's a goal for both wolves and villagers. Hoops can play that game analysis without appearing to be a wolf.

So I am going to go with hoops for today, as my best candidate in a group of all weak candidates.

VOTE HOOPS

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 07:58 PM

Chief, go with whatever vote you want but I said that villagers should trust themselves, not trust me.

KWhit · 03-31-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll almost certainly be back on before deadline, but figured I should get a vote out there.

NTN gets it because he is one of the leading candidates at the moment and because it felt like he was casting out several ideas (QB, wolves faking poor performance) without really following through on any of them based on my quick read. That, plus I am interested to see if the candidate positioned by Heinz is a villager or wolf.

That isn't supposed to be a "if NTN is lynched as a villager we all vote Heinz tomorrow" post ... more me working through my thought process right now on a couple of players I have higher on my suspect list than others. Sometimes those types of situations work themselves out when those two candidates are forced near the top of the voting pile.

Were you intending to vote for ntn here? Cause you didn't.

KWhit · 03-31-2010, 08:24 PM

I don't have a ton of time to do analysis tonight (it's my wife's birthday tonight, so I need to give her some attention), but of the leading candidates, the only one that really has seemed suspicious to me at all is J23. This is really just a gut feel from me right now. Nothing better.

VOTE J23

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 08:33 PM

Throwing a vote count up there (as of 272):

Henry (2)- Jackal (215), J23 (229),
ntndeacon (2)- Henry (222), Heinz (226),
J23 (3)- Abe (245), Schmidty (246), KWhit (272)
Abe (1)- Darth (249)
Hoops (1)- ChiefRum (269)

No votes yet: ntndeacon, Crimson Fox, Hoops

Abe Sargent · 03-31-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Am I missing something here? Wasn't Jackal shown to be the duke, and thus a known villager?

Do villagers have the ability to drag down other villagers? I just double-checked the rules and my PM to make sure I wasn't missing out on some fun sabotage ability but I don't see it. I've assumed it was only wolves who could target someone.

I will tell you most post deadline. I want two days and nights done before I reveal further, I'm sure you can understand that.

Abe Sargent · 03-31-2010, 08:36 PM

Nah, wait a second, that makes it seem like I should get night killed by the wolve.s Fuck. Shouldn;t ahave said anything. Ah well, here it is:

As the winner, I got a one time chance to do something. I was also to make a trade, that was my reward for winning. I thought the hurting of me, which came HOURS after the deadline, was from teh winner of last night, and since Jackal was at the top of the standing, I beleive he won, and thus was able to hurt me as his power.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 08:41 PM

Abe I can assure you I did nothing to you, nor have I had the option to do anything to anyone based on performance in any of the events.

There's no reason for me to lie at this point as a cleared villager who is likely going to die tonight.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 08:47 PM

Of course, they could be nice and leave me around while seer hunting, and I'll continue to dominate! But all fair play, I'd guess the wolves did something to you or you did something to yourself, Abe.

ntndeacon · 03-31-2010, 08:55 PM

I am afraid that iwon't be on at the deadline. so my vote is going to make sure that I am not killed.
Vote J23

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:01 PM

KWhit, I think you are right about me missing the vote.

VOTE NTN

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:01 PM

Dola - not putting the vote in earlier. I'll try to put together a vote count and consider a change if there appears to be a reason to do so.

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Chief, go with whatever vote you want but I said that villagers should trust themselves, not trust me.

I don't think you have to worry about THAT Hoops. Nobody trusts you. :P

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:08 PM

Crimson, most people do for a game or two. Then, for whatever reason, it seems to swing the other way.

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 09:12 PM

Still at work btw. Can't really talk much. Eyes around.

Schmidty · 03-31-2010, 09:12 PM

Hey!! Look at this!!!If J23 gets lynched and is good, I'm the #2 vote!!! Yay!

I will remind people that the 2nd vote thing is crap, and a lame excuse to vote for someone after the first few days. Just a disclaimer.

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:14 PM

Votes as of Post #284:

4 J23 - Abe (245), Schmdity (246), KWhit (272), NTN (278)
3 NTN - Henry (222), Heinz (226), Hoops (279)
2 Henry - Jackal (215), J23 (229)
1 Abe - DV (249)
1 Hoops - CR (269)

CrimsonFox · 03-31-2010, 09:15 PM

VOTE HOOPS

(no i don't trust you)

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:19 PM

And I believe that all the votes are now in, which sets up 40+ minutes of potential vote swapping from now to the end.

Votes as of Post #286:
4 J23 - Abe (245), Schmdity (246), KWhit (272), NTN (278)
3 NTN - Henry (222), Heinz (226), Hoops (279)
2 Henry - Jackal (215), J23 (229)
2 Hoops - CR (269), CF (286)
1 Abe - DV (249)

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:23 PM

For what it is worth, I kind of like the two leading candidates. I thought J23 had a pretty weak line in his vote for Henry today (want to follow the cleared villager) ... I understand the rationale, but it is 100% that Jackal doesn't know any more than any other villager based on his revealed role.

I would switch to him, if necessary, but won't consider Henry unless it somehow became him or me. That isn't necessarily my stance from now until the end, but that is my stance now based purely on in-thread vibes from the players in question.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 09:26 PM

Well, I'll switch off of Henry at this point.

Last game I mentioned how I disliked "following the cleared villager" as a way for a wolf to hide a vote and it still sounds like sound reasoning.

unvote henry

vote j23

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:47 PM

Not sure I can handle all this activity down the stretch.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 09:48 PM

Need some gatorade?

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 09:50 PM

If I die, at least make the Redskins draft me. They're looking hard at Eric Berry after all.

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

If I die, at least make the Redskins draft me. They're looking hard at Eric Berry after all.

I see the Giants trading up to get you, much to the delight of Lathum.

The Jackal · 03-31-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I see the Giants trading up to get you, much to the delight of Lathum.

I'd holdout

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 10:01 PM

Time check

hoopsguy · 03-31-2010, 10:03 PM

This little movement + participation makes me think that we're in a bad spot here. Hope to be wrong one of these times when I think this way ...

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 10:09 PM

The Wonderlic results are typically kept locked and sealed, but we've gotten some insider news of what the results were. Before we get to the best, let's take a look at those that struggled.

J23 had some very, very high expectations for his test. But reports have come out that he had a conflict with an unspecified player before entering the testing room. J23 seemed incredibly tense following this confrontation and this was definitely proven in his alleged score of a 6.

Schmidty's education apparently hasn't paid off in test smarts. The running back pulled a 9, just a bit higher than Vince Young's notoriously low score.

Chief Rum isn't just slow in the 40, but is apparently a slow test-taker as well. He didn't quite finish but still pulled a 10.

But let's here some good news.

Crimson Fox pulled one of the highest scores in recent memory. He posted a 41.

Jackal was right behind him, posting a 39 point score on a 50 point scale.

ntndeacon definitely helped himself out with draft status by posting a strong score as well. ntn's score of 38 was also one of the top three of the day.

As J23 left the Combine though, he received a very important phone call. The Miami Dolphins have drafted J23, a vanilla villager.

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 10:11 PM

We've got more big news as the Denver Broncos, #11 in the draft, have made their own move as well. Chief Rum has been drafted by the Denver Broncos. He was a vanilla villager.

PMs going out and then the Big Board will be posted.

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 10:20 PM

Welcome back to my newly updated Big Board 3.0. Things have shaken up a bit more after the 40 and the Wonderlic.

#1 Jackal
#2 Crimson Fox
#3 Abe
#4 Schmidty
#5 Henry
#6 Ntndeacon
#7 Darth Vilus
#8 Hoops
#9 KWhit
#10 Heinz

PurdueBrad · 03-31-2010, 10:23 PM

WAIT!!! We've got some very, very late breaking news today. KWhit was apparently pulled over following the Combine. Unconfirmed reports say that an anonymous tip led to a search of the young man's car. The police, during the search, found a plastic box containing steroids hidden under the seat. KWhit claimed repeatedly that these were not his drugs but the damage has been done in the eyes of the teams remaining. KWhit's draft stock is falling.

The newest draft board from Mel Kiper now shows:
#1 Jackal
#2 Crimson Fox
#3 Abe
#4 Schmidty
#5 Henry
#6 Ntndeacon
#7 Darth Vilus
#8 Hoops
#9 Heinz
#10 Kwhit

03-31-2010, 03:16 PM	#254
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Date night was moved to Wednesday this week, so I'll be less in that normal, and out for several hours ater work __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-31-2010, 04:26 PM	#261
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Alright, I'm leaving for a few hours in a moment, catch you folks after a while! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-31-2010, 07:25 PM	#269
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I am leaving until after the deadline, so I have to put in a vote. Fact is, I don't like the options given out. I'm not a big fan of the vote henry to see what happened Day One concept, not this game. I don't really get a wolf vibe off of henry, and it always seems like those end up villager-vs-villager. I'm not ready to go "conspiracy theory" on Abe getting slagged by someone's ability, especially since that is exactly what I believe happened to me at the Pro Day event last night. The J23 votes feel like a reach to me. Plenty of people in a rush will glaze over posts, even blue posts in the shortest game threads. This is not to say that any of these guys aren't wolves, but I'm not ready to say so on what we have seen so far. That leads me to jeheinz's analysis. I actually have a problem with jeheinz analysis, in that it presumes that The Jackal voters are of special interest because he is a villager. But it's Day 1 and no one knows anything. Sure, one could argue wolves know and that's why this works with heinz's analysis, but it also means gullible villagers who don't know anything are just as likely to make the mistake of this vote. Not like The Jackal gave us any hints (that I am aware of anyway). Putting aside my concerns there, the two people of interest left here are ntndeacon and hoops. There are votes for ntndeacon, and people have ignored hoops because heinz said he's getting a strong villager vibe from hoops. That doesn't match my feel, though. It's entirely a gut feel, but I don't have a good vibe on hoops right now. He did the whole trust list "The Jackal & Self" thing, which I can't stand because right away none of us can buy into the analysis. If it's later in the game and he's tossing out hypotheticals that require him to not be a wolf, I understand. This early on, though, with only one cleared player and ten potential wolves or whatever, it has the feel of someone trying to lay groundwork for himself as being someone we can trust, without actually doing anything. Plus, there was no actual analysis that I can recall, not of the wolf part of the game anyway. Second, the analysis hoops has tried to do has focused on the draft lists and establishing points. He has made a big deal of that, but that's wolf game neutral, more or less. That's a goal for both wolves and villagers. Hoops can play that game analysis without appearing to be a wolf. So I am going to go with hoops for today, as my best candidate in a group of all weak candidates. VOTE HOOPS __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-31-2010, 08:36 PM	#275
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Nah, wait a second, that makes it seem like I should get night killed by the wolve.s Fuck. Shouldn;t ahave said anything. Ah well, here it is: As the winner, I got a one time chance to do something. I was also to make a trade, that was my reward for winning. I thought the hurting of me, which came HOURS after the deadline, was from teh winner of last night, and since Jackal was at the top of the standing, I beleive he won, and thus was able to hurt me as his power. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-31-2010, 09:12 PM	#284
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Hey!! Look at this!!!If J23 gets lynched and is good, I'm the #2 vote!!! Yay! I will remind people that the 2nd vote thing is crap, and a lame excuse to vote for someone after the first few days. Just a disclaimer. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-31-2010, 03:00 PM	#253
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Ugh. Forgot to put in any points for today. No wonder I floundered.

03-31-2010, 03:52 PM	#257
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I almost put in as a punter just to one up Abe.

03-31-2010, 03:58 PM	#259
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Glad you posted that btw CF. I missed that wall of blue text earlier when I was talking about my 10 points I spent. I guess this is what happens when I try to get work done and casually alt-tab while macros are running.

03-31-2010, 06:27 PM	#263
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I'm headed out shortly for the evening. With two votes on me, I thought I'd just say I'm a vanilla villager, so it's not the worst thing to happen if I get lynched here. I just don't think that we really learn anything by it in this case. I guess the good thing from me potentially getting lynched is at least the village won't lose another roled villager from it. I'm leaving my vote where it is despite being tempted to put it on Abe. I'm guessing he's just reading things wrong when it comes to my missing a post by PB and in regards to assuming Jackal was the one messing up his performance.

03-31-2010, 06:55 PM	#264
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Is the logic in voting Henry solely because they want to "learn from Day 1 vote"? If so, so be it. I just feel like I personally learned enough from him being under pressure ... time will tell which side is right on that one, I suppose.

03-31-2010, 07:11 PM	#267
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll almost certainly be back on before deadline, but figured I should get a vote out there. NTN gets it because he is one of the leading candidates at the moment and because it felt like he was casting out several ideas (QB, wolves faking poor performance) without really following through on any of them based on my quick read. That, plus I am interested to see if the candidate positioned by Heinz is a villager or wolf. That isn't supposed to be a "if NTN is lynched as a villager we all vote Heinz tomorrow" post ... more me working through my thought process right now on a couple of players I have higher on my suspect list than others. Sometimes those types of situations work themselves out when those two candidates are forced near the top of the voting pile.

03-31-2010, 07:58 PM	#270
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Chief, go with whatever vote you want but I said that villagers should trust themselves, not trust me.

03-31-2010, 08:24 PM	#272
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I don't have a ton of time to do analysis tonight (it's my wife's birthday tonight, so I need to give her some attention), but of the leading candidates, the only one that really has seemed suspicious to me at all is J23. This is really just a gut feel from me right now. Nothing better. VOTE J23

03-31-2010, 08:33 PM	#273
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Throwing a vote count up there (as of 272): Henry (2)- Jackal (215), J23 (229), ntndeacon (2)- Henry (222), Heinz (226), J23 (3)- Abe (245), Schmidty (246), KWhit (272) Abe (1)- Darth (249) Hoops (1)- ChiefRum (269) No votes yet: ntndeacon, Crimson Fox, Hoops

03-31-2010, 08:41 PM	#276
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Abe I can assure you I did nothing to you, nor have I had the option to do anything to anyone based on performance in any of the events. There's no reason for me to lie at this point as a cleared villager who is likely going to die tonight.

03-31-2010, 08:47 PM	#277
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Of course, they could be nice and leave me around while seer hunting, and I'll continue to dominate! But all fair play, I'd guess the wolves did something to you or you did something to yourself, Abe.

03-31-2010, 08:55 PM	#278
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I am afraid that iwon't be on at the deadline. so my vote is going to make sure that I am not killed. Vote J23

03-31-2010, 09:01 PM	#279
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	KWhit, I think you are right about me missing the vote. VOTE NTN

03-31-2010, 09:01 PM	#280
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - not putting the vote in earlier. I'll try to put together a vote count and consider a change if there appears to be a reason to do so.

03-31-2010, 09:08 PM	#282
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Crimson, most people do for a game or two. Then, for whatever reason, it seems to swing the other way.

03-31-2010, 09:12 PM	#283
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Still at work btw. Can't really talk much. Eyes around.

03-31-2010, 09:14 PM	#285
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #284: 4 J23 - Abe (245), Schmdity (246), KWhit (272), NTN (278) 3 NTN - Henry (222), Heinz (226), Hoops (279) 2 Henry - Jackal (215), J23 (229) 1 Abe - DV (249) 1 Hoops - CR (269)

03-31-2010, 09:15 PM	#286
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	VOTE HOOPS (no i don't trust you)

03-31-2010, 09:19 PM	#287
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	And I believe that all the votes are now in, which sets up 40+ minutes of potential vote swapping from now to the end. Votes as of Post #286: 4 J23 - Abe (245), Schmdity (246), KWhit (272), NTN (278) 3 NTN - Henry (222), Heinz (226), Hoops (279) 2 Henry - Jackal (215), J23 (229) 2 Hoops - CR (269), CF (286) 1 Abe - DV (249)

03-31-2010, 09:23 PM	#288
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	For what it is worth, I kind of like the two leading candidates. I thought J23 had a pretty weak line in his vote for Henry today (want to follow the cleared villager) ... I understand the rationale, but it is 100% that Jackal doesn't know any more than any other villager based on his revealed role. I would switch to him, if necessary, but won't consider Henry unless it somehow became him or me. That isn't necessarily my stance from now until the end, but that is my stance now based purely on in-thread vibes from the players in question.

03-31-2010, 09:26 PM	#289
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Well, I'll switch off of Henry at this point. Last game I mentioned how I disliked "following the cleared villager" as a way for a wolf to hide a vote and it still sounds like sound reasoning. unvote henry vote j23

03-31-2010, 09:47 PM	#290
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Not sure I can handle all this activity down the stretch.

03-31-2010, 09:48 PM	#291
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Need some gatorade?

03-31-2010, 09:50 PM	#292
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If I die, at least make the Redskins draft me. They're looking hard at Eric Berry after all.

03-31-2010, 10:01 PM	#295
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Time check

03-31-2010, 10:03 PM	#296
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	This little movement + participation makes me think that we're in a bad spot here. Hope to be wrong one of these times when I think this way ...

03-31-2010, 10:09 PM	#297
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	The Wonderlic results are typically kept locked and sealed, but we've gotten some insider news of what the results were. Before we get to the best, let's take a look at those that struggled. J23 had some very, very high expectations for his test. But reports have come out that he had a conflict with an unspecified player before entering the testing room. J23 seemed incredibly tense following this confrontation and this was definitely proven in his alleged score of a 6. Schmidty's education apparently hasn't paid off in test smarts. The running back pulled a 9, just a bit higher than Vince Young's notoriously low score. Chief Rum isn't just slow in the 40, but is apparently a slow test-taker as well. He didn't quite finish but still pulled a 10. But let's here some good news. Crimson Fox pulled one of the highest scores in recent memory. He posted a 41. Jackal was right behind him, posting a 39 point score on a 50 point scale. ntndeacon definitely helped himself out with draft status by posting a strong score as well. ntn's score of 38 was also one of the top three of the day. As J23 left the Combine though, he received a very important phone call. The Miami Dolphins have drafted J23, a vanilla villager.

03-31-2010, 10:11 PM	#298
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	We've got more big news as the Denver Broncos, #11 in the draft, have made their own move as well. Chief Rum has been drafted by the Denver Broncos. He was a vanilla villager. PMs going out and then the Big Board will be posted. Last edited by PurdueBrad : 03-31-2010 at 10:16 PM.

03-31-2010, 10:20 PM	#299
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Welcome back to my newly updated Big Board 3.0. Things have shaken up a bit more after the 40 and the Wonderlic. #1 Jackal #2 Crimson Fox #3 Abe #4 Schmidty #5 Henry #6 Ntndeacon #7 Darth Vilus #8 Hoops #9 KWhit #10 Heinz

03-31-2010, 10:23 PM	#300
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	WAIT!!! We've got some very, very late breaking news today. KWhit was apparently pulled over following the Combine. Unconfirmed reports say that an anonymous tip led to a search of the young man's car. The police, during the search, found a plastic box containing steroids hidden under the seat. KWhit claimed repeatedly that these were not his drugs but the damage has been done in the eyes of the teams remaining. KWhit's draft stock is falling. The newest draft board from Mel Kiper now shows: #1 Jackal #2 Crimson Fox #3 Abe #4 Schmidty #5 Henry #6 Ntndeacon #7 Darth Vilus #8 Hoops #9 Heinz #10 Kwhit