2013 College Football Offseason thread

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

And it's not like EF27 is a troller.

When it comes to college football and especially regarding UCLA, I'd dispute this.

[Logan]

Awesome. Hopefully something both OSU and UM fans can get behind.

Beat Michigan: A young Ohio State fan names his brain tumor after UM - Land-Grant Holy Land

[MacroGuru]

So Dr. Chris Hill at the University of Utah let it slip that they have resumed the Rivalry game with BYU and extended it 3 yrs. Yes there will be a hiatus still but after the 2 yr hiatus it is back on for a total of 5 yrs now. He also let it slip that BYU/Stanford are finalizing a 2 for 1 deal.

There are Cougar fans that are in melt down mode as we shouldn't be schedule 2 for 1's with anyone.....

Me personally, I know we can't demand 1 for 1's yet. The mantra of just win is major for this.

I look at our schedules over the next few seasons and combine that with our additional schedules, we will have some great games in Provo and on the road.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

SEC Media Days start today. Coverage on ESPNU this afternoon.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

dola

Looks like Fox Sports is putting together their college football cast for the new network. Erin Andrews, Clay Travis and Eddie George thus far with three more still to come.....

OKTC Joining Fox Sports College Football Television Coverage : Outkick The Coverage

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Slive takes the NCAA to task on some of its issues.

Slive urges NCAA to resolve player issues : Sports

[Matthean]

Football season hasn't started and I'm already wondering if I'm sick of hearing about Manziel.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Love the honestly of Spurrier. His observation of ND is spot-on.

Steve Spurrier for SEC commissioner! All in favor? Aye! (Scarbinsky) | al.com

[dawgfan]

The new Husky Stadium is nearing completion:



Can't wait for August 31st!

[MrBug708]

Dawgfan, why didn't the just destroy the last stand and do a "complete rebuild" instead of "reconstruction"

[dawgfan]

From a seismic standards perspective (as well as other usability regulations), it wasn't required, so in order to keep costs lower they opted to let the old North upper deck remain. While they are starting to show their age a bit (they were built in 1987), they were in much better shape than the South upper deck (which was built in 1950).

The original plan was limited to rebuilding just the lower bowl and leaving both upper decks intact, but it quickly became apparent that the South upper deck had to be replaced too.

Replacing the North upper deck would be part of any significant future renovations.

[MrBug708]

Top 50 draft list for next year from one man

Draft 365 Rankings | NFL.com

[Matthean]

I'm not sure why true sophomores are listed.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm not sure why true sophomores are listed.

It's not a draft list, although he does refer to GMs preparing for the draft. Simple list of his 50 most talented college football players.

Jeremiah is great.

[Matthean]

So like 40% of that list should be 'Bama players.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Top 50 draft list for next year from one man

Draft 365 Rankings | NFL.com

Interesting that he's got Lyerla ranked above ASJ. I would agree that Lyerla is the better athlete, but I think ASJ will be more productive in the NFL (he's already quite a bit more productive in college, though less versatile).

I suppose an NFL team could be as creative with him as Oregon is, which would increase his value. ASJ is a classic TE - you're going to line him up to block and to run routes. Lyerla offers the intrigue of playing both a classic TE role as well as a more versatile H-Back/FB type of role.

Still, if ASJ can beat his nagging leg injury issues, I see him as a guy that can put up big-time receiving numbers, and I'm less convinced Lyerla is capable of matching him.

[Matthean]

Oops.

Ohio State Buckeyes suspend RB Carlos Hyde - ESPN

[Logan]

Dashcam Video of Antonio Morrison Arrest for Barking at a Police Dog is as Stupid as You’d Imagine | The Big Lead

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Logan

Awesome. Hopefully something both OSU and UM fans can get behind.

Beat Michigan: A young Ohio State fan names his brain tumor after UM - Land-Grant Holy Land

Hoke game the kid game tickets for the Michigan/OSU game.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Logan

Dashcam Video of Antonio Morrison Arrest for Barking at a Police Dog is as Stupid as You’d Imagine | The Big Lead

You know I'm not usually one to defend stupid behavior but cop seems a bit over the line.
I'll be shocked if those charges stick, especially if he simply joking said woof woof.

Heck this weekend I walked by and scratched a police dogs ear and had a 15 minute convo with the officer.

Also what about a littering charge against the officer for throwing that bottle on the ground.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Hoke game the kid game tickets for the Michigan/OSU game.

That's awesome, well done Brady!

[Logan]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

You know I'm not usually one to defend stupid behavior but cop seems a bit over the line.
I'll be shocked if those charges stick, especially if he simply joking said woof woof.

Heck this weekend I walked by and scratched a police dogs ear and had a 15 minute convo with the officer.

Also what about a littering charge against the officer for throwing that bottle on the ground.

I agree with you. There's already some reports that the charge will be dropped.

[JPhillips]

I understand what Mack Brown is getting at, but saying his players can't afford to eat is bullshit. They all have free meals.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I understand what Mack Brown is getting at, but saying his players can't afford to eat is bullshit. They all have free meals.

There are limits on what they can be fed during the off-season. There are a lot of inane rules about feeding athletes.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

There are limits on what they can be fed during the off-season. There are a lot of inane rules about feeding athletes.

They gotta eat what every other college kid can eat. They do get some things that the normal students might not have access to on certain days.

[Atocep]

Rushel Shell, who left Pitt for UCLA, decided not to attend UCLA and tried to go back to Pitt only to be turned down, now plans to enroll at WVU.

Incredibly talented kid. I hope things work out, but it's hard to count on him for anything at this point.

[MrBug708]

He decided not to attend UCLA like I decided not to sleep with Kate Upton

[Poli]

Your wife appreciates that decision.

[MrBug708]

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really seems like this kid isn't handling the spotlight very well. I don't see any way he plays as well this year under all the scrutiny and given how his offseason has gone thus far.

Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M Aggies kicked out of University of Texas fraternity party, report says - ESPN

[Izulde]

Getting kicked out of a fraternity party is a total non-story. I've kicked people out of house parties before and it's no big deal.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Getting kicked out of a fraternity party is a total non-story. I've kicked people out of house parties before and it's no big deal.

If it was the only thing that had happened this offseason, no big deal. But he's reaching TMZ-levels at this point.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

If it was the only thing that had happened this offseason, no big deal. But he's reaching TMZ-levels at this point.

Ya, he overslept once.

Wake me up when someone finds a dead hooker in his car. Otherwise, he sounds like he acts like a college kid who happens to have his every move reported in the media for some reason.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, he overslept once.

Wake me up when someone finds a dead hooker in his car. Otherwise, he sounds like he acts like a college kid who happens to have his every move reported in the media for some reason.

Overslept.....or as dropped off by an escort at 4:30 in the morning drunk and with his clothes covered in puke....errrr. Uhhhh allegedly.

And btw when you win the Heisman and want to be paid 8-9 figures, you don't get to act like any other college kid, or if you do you will get paid like every ther college kid.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Overslept.....or as dropped off by an escort at 4:30 in the morning drunk and with his clothes covered in puke....errrr. Uhhhh allegedly.

And btw when you win the Heisman and want to be paid 8-9 figures, you don't get to act like any other college kid, or if you do you will get paid like every ther college kid.

This, he loves the limelight and doesn't seem to look beyond today, which is a gamble considering what he stands to make/lose. I would say he acts a little more immaturely than the average College Kid and this is a history that goes back to before we even knew about Johnny Football.

The he is young excuse just doesn't cut it after about the 5th or 6th time.

[molson]

I don't know, you guys really think prior Heisman trophy winners and big-shot college football athletes were all choir boys? I think it's only the reporting that's changed.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by molson

I don't know, you guys really think prior Heisman trophy winners and big-shot college football athletes were all choir boys? I think it's only the reporting that's changed.

It is tough to get reported on when you aren't doing anything worth being reported about. He doesn't have to be a choir boy, but he is hurting his NFL stock as more reports come out.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Matthean

It is tough to get reported on when you aren't doing anything worth being reported about. He doesn't have to be a choir boy, but he is hurting his NFL stock as more reports come out.

i must be missing something - it's all been just drunk college kid stuff, hasn't it? Stuff which has never been front page news until now. I'd bet 90% of college football players drink, and around that same number have drank too much on occasion.

I'm not sure why getting kicked out of a frat party is front page news either, especially since we have no idea why it happened - it sounds like they may not have liked his Tebow jersey. I don't think the Texas frats are kicking people out for drinking.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by molson

I don't think the Texas frats are kicking people out for drinking.

Best I can tell, there aren't many too concerned with that anywhere.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Interesting that he's got Lyerla ranked above ASJ. I would agree that Lyerla is the better athlete, but I think ASJ will be more productive in the NFL (he's already quite a bit more productive in college, though less versatile).

I suppose an NFL team could be as creative with him as Oregon is, which would increase his value. ASJ is a classic TE - you're going to line him up to block and to run routes. Lyerla offers the intrigue of playing both a classic TE role as well as a more versatile H-Back/FB type of role.

Still, if ASJ can beat his nagging leg injury issues, I see him as a guy that can put up big-time receiving numbers, and I'm less convinced Lyerla is capable of matching him.

Watching Lyerla when he got his chances last year, it was scary how athletically gifted he is. It seemed like the only thing stopping him from taking over games every week was just how they used him.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Really seems like this kid isn't handling the spotlight very well. I don't see any way he plays as well this year under all the scrutiny and given how his offseason has gone thus far.

Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M Aggies kicked out of University of Texas fraternity party, report says - ESPN

I too think Manziel doesn't play as well this year, but I'd think that's more due to natural regression and the loss of Luke Joeckel (+ Michael/Swope). I'm sure ESPN and the old guard will be eager to pin it on his offseason drinking, even though there's plenty of evidence he was drinking and fighting people in the offseason before he won the Heisman (and almost certainly back when he was being named HS PoY in Texas.) I certainly don't think he'll buckle under any media pressure, because it's pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about how the media perceives him.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by molson

i must be missing something - it's all been just drunk college kid stuff, hasn't it? Stuff which has never been front page news until now. I'd bet 90% of college football players drink, and around that same number have drank too much on occasion.

I'm not sure why getting kicked out of a frat party is front page news either, especially since we have no idea why it happened - it sounds like they may not have liked his Tebow jersey. I don't think the Texas frats are kicking people out for drinking.

I'm guessing it might be a case of not wanting an A&M player at a Texas party. It would be similar for a Michigan or OSU player to visit a party at the other's school and expect people to be cool with it. He just has to show some common sense in this situation, and he didn't.

[MrBug708]

USC players all hang in Westwood for obvious reasons. That's a different vibe since everyone grew up around each other

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by molson

I don't know, you guys really think prior Heisman trophy winners and big-shot college football athletes were all choir boys? I think it's only the reporting that's changed.

Oh, for sure.
The difference is Eddie George, Reggie bush, et al weren't flying around the country to party in rival cities...

If you don't see the difference , well......

[BishopMVP]

Pretty sure Reggie Bush was partying in the UCLA part of town more than once.

Anyone heard where Michael Dyer is going? I think he can play this fall.

[molson]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Oh, for sure.
The difference is Eddie George, Reggie bush, et al weren't flying around the country to party in rival cities...

If you don't see the difference , well......

So it's really more about superfandom than true "character" concerns. That's not going to translate as an issue at the next level. He'll be allowed to go out in Manhattan even if he plays for the Buffalo Bills.

[CU Tiger]

Wow...
OK.

Then again Colin Kap wore a Fins hat so maybe it doesnt matter.

I think the lack of judgement is the issue...that and the lack of preperation.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Questions that I haven't seen answered (or mentioned) anywhere.

Is Manziel a frat member at A&M?

How did he happen to pick that first frat party? Did he have a friend(s) at UT-A that had something to do with his choice of attendance? Or did he literally just wander around campus until he spotted a keg(s)?

[MacroGuru]

Word out is that University of Utah lost 3 players today in a car accident. Not 100% sure of details, trying to find them out and I know a couple of the players are 3* talented kids and Polynesian.

Texas A&M player Polo Manukainiu was also one that passed in the accident.

I know the Polynesian community back in Utah is pretty shook up about it.

Edit: Waited for confirmation, 5 people in the accident, 3 killed. Gaius Vaenuku, was one of the 3 and is the 3* athlete. Salesi Uhatafe is in critical condition.

Prayers go out to their families...

[Kodos]