The Republican Party Headquarters Thread (No Dems Allowed!!) - Page 6

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 12:46 PM

Trola

We could additionally hedge our bets by having myself and RendeR tagged onto it. Then we can push the more central of their members that they should support a bill that appeals to our more liberal constituents.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 12:55 PM

I am not entirely sure how the popularity thing works, but I think a witness bill might harm you and Render's popularity, because of where you are on the spectrum. Maybe clap and Render? Render has enough popularity to take a hit if there is one, and clap lines up well spectrum wise and needs the popularity.

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 12:58 PM

It's my understanding of it that our support of a bill (via vote or attachment) is a good thing for certainly any bill that falls within the Republican realm.

Clap needing the popularity though may be a good idea. I, and I don't mean this to sound self serving, would be a good idea to bolster if it remains our plan to make a play for henry's district to control things.

Mrs. Schmidty · 07-23-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The least popular congressmen are all Democrats, so its actually possible that some of them are in trouble.

Also I suspect that NOT voting doesn't affect your popularity - so our least popular members (claphamsa, for example) may want to consider abstaining from any votes today.

I agree with this. I didn't vote for either bill yesterday because I didn't have a real understanding of either by deadline and it didn't hurt my popularity. I think CR is taking Obama as an example of this since all he mostly voted in senate is "present" and look how popular he is.

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 01:24 PM

how does the popularity line up with what we chose coruption wise?

I think thats most of it!`

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

how does the popularity line up with what we chose coruption wise?

I think thats most of it!`

I think its some of it. I think it also works as a multiplier for subsequent actions. So if you are a more corrupt pol, it will be harder for you to improve your popularity.

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 01:35 PM

yeah but i have good fundrasing, so i wont go away easy

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 01:36 PM

Do we have any evidence that slurrying PF will help with the Presidential election? If not, I say go after Henry again. That veto along with yesterday's slurry of him, he's got to be close to getting out.

illinifan999 · 07-23-2008, 01:41 PM

"A Slurry power is the ability to throw money at a particular player to hurt their image within their own constituency and nationally, or to hurt the popularity of a bill."

So it seems that a slurry would hurt him nationally, and I'd assume that since it looks like I'm fairly aheah of PF based on the popularity rankings, that the dems will be throwing a couple slurry's in my direction. That's if my understanding of it is correct.

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 01:43 PM

Ahhh, alright. I assumed with the national lean at 53-47 anyway that it wouldn't likely matter. Makes sense though.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 01:49 PM

I'm in!!!

Catching up.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 01:56 PM

I think Render, and only Render, should vote the bodyguard bill. All other elephants should abstain.

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 02:07 PM

bill? do we have a bill writen?

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 02:12 PM

We do not. I think we are leaning towards a witness bill. I think the rule is that only one or two of us can introduce a bill, but I forget who that is.

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 02:17 PM

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I think Render, and only Render, should vote the bodyguard bill. All other elephants should abstain.

I already put in my vote but with 66% of the country supporting yesterday's version, that's not a great move IMHO. The country is leaning 53-47 our way as it is and a 2/3's country majority supports the BG bill. I think you have to make them happy.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:20 PM

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I think Render, and only Render, should vote the bodyguard bill. All other elephants should abstain.

What about illinifan? He'll want to stay a little centrist to be President, right? And jeheinz might want to think about voting for it -- this will also help us get the bill passed, in case a Dem forgets to vote.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:22 PM

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We do not. I think we are leaning towards a witness bill. I think the rule is that only one or two of us can introduce a bill, but I forget who that is.

Those people are our Leader (Tyrith) and whoever he chooses as his Whip (currently jeheinz).

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:28 PM

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Note: There seems to be an effort from somewhere to attack jeheinz's position in his district.

I just saw this part of CR's post. Interesting.

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 02:29 PM

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I just saw this part of CR's post. Interesting.

I'm assuming that they had the same thoughts with Heinz that we had with Henry.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:33 PM

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I'm assuming that they had the same thoughts with Heinz that we had with Henry.

Right, but they didn't expect the TRIPLE HIT!

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 02:40 PM

Yeah, I really think I'm ok though.

So what are the thoughts on maybe slurrying Henry instead of PF?

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 02:41 PM

I say we should worry about the presidency first, then about trying to knock out henry. Having the presidency will put us in position to change things to go our way for the next four days, and that's a big deal. Getting an extra vote would be a big deal, too, but I don't think henry is as close to the edge as some of you seem to.

Anyone, ideas for small abilities for the witness?

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:42 PM

I could see splitting our slurry between the two of them -- seems like we're in a good position for illini to win the Presidency.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:43 PM

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Anyone, ideas for small abilities for the witness?

I'm going to stay out of that discussion!

But I'd recommend emailing CR to ask what will work -- I asked him what he thought of a second seer, and am waiting for a reply on that.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 02:44 PM

BTW, we also need to remember that by knocking someone out of their seat there's a good chance that we'll be knocking out a villager.

I think winning the presidency will do our party as a whole more good for popularity than anything else right now. Although a 2-1 split would be an amicable compromise.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 02:46 PM

Okay, we'll see what happens, I want this bill out by around 3 or so.

Remember, we do need to lynch someone today -- we could just lynch Henry and try to take his seat that way, if we're already going to try to get him gone.

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 02:47 PM

Let's play it safe and get the presidency. I think Henry is in enough trouble that it can certainly wait.

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Okay, we'll see what happens, I want this bill out by around 3 or so.

Remember, we do need to lynch someone today -- we could just lynch Henry and try to take his seat that way, if we're already going to try to get him gone.

Yeah but what are the chances they're going to let us do that?

I honestly have no idea how we'll tackle lynching in this game

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 02:49 PM

Well, so much for that idea. Let's hope they don't fire all 9 shots at one of us now. Or else we'll be forced to pick KWhit

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:52 PM

I think we can just make clap unvote.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 02:52 PM

Well...we should hold off as long as possible to vote, for sure. See if they, for some reason, go uncoordinated. Otherwise yes, we will be forced into a tie. My original plan was to wait for them to break and if they did just have all nine of us dump our votes on someone in a horribly partisan maneuver, but now I fear we're going to have that done to us.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 02:52 PM

Oh, that's true Pass, duh. Worst case, if he leaves the game one of us will get the seat

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 02:56 PM

?

im voting as my constituents demand

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Well...we should hold off as long as possible to vote, for sure. See if they, for some reason, go uncoordinated. Otherwise yes, we will be forced into a tie. My original plan was to wait for them to break and if they did just have all nine of us dump our votes on someone in a horribly partisan maneuver, but now I fear we're going to have that done to us.

I agree that waiting is a good idea. But I think we should discuss what we want to do it we unite -- one vote change won't be a huge deal for clap.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 03:01 PM

I'm not following the conversation, what are we talking about?

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm not following the conversation, what are we talking about?

We need to lynch someone. And we're discussing how partisan we want to be. And clap voted for KWhit already.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:12 PM

What do you guys think about endorsing illini? Should some of us that aren't so popular stay out of it?

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

What do you guys think about endorsing illini? Should some of us that aren't so popular stay out of it?

Won't that hurt your personal popularity even more though? I would say a full party endorsement is a strong start, especially with the majority of the country going Republican right now.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

What do you guys think about endorsing illini? Should some of us that aren't so popular stay out of it?

I had this thought...but I figured it can't hurt. Besides, clap would be the worst, and it's already been done, so we might as well pour on the little gasoline we have left.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 03:29 PM

I will have to get a vote in soon. I guess I'll vote KWhit.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:41 PM

Bill is going up soonish, I hope; it depends on when CR gets back to me and/or Pass.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I will have to get a vote in soon. I guess I'll vote KWhit.

I don't think you need to vote KWhit just because clap did.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 03:50 PM

Well, do you have another idea?

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, do you have another idea?

Best I can come up with is mccollins at the moment.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:50 PM

If we're going to jack a Dem just for the sake of it, let's kill henry and try to get something out of it. Otherwise, I don't have an idea.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Bill is going up soonish, I hope; it depends on when CR gets back to me and/or Pass.

CR said 'no' on a 2nd seer bill.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 04:08 PM

clap, you've got three votes on you, and you're probably going to get every democrat voting you. The way I see it, you're going to have to change your vote to henry.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 04:09 PM

That or we could let him be lynched, and take his district for someone else.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 04:15 PM

Screw it, I'm going to release the bill now.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 05:00 PM

Heads up on the Dems -- the bill they're proposing started out as a brothers bill, but now gives a random non-wolf the right to PM the seer once per day. I told Lathum I wasn't sure where on the political spectrum that would fall, and he said they would ask CR.

07-23-2008, 12:55 PM	#252
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I am not entirely sure how the popularity thing works, but I think a witness bill might harm you and Render's popularity, because of where you are on the spectrum. Maybe clap and Render? Render has enough popularity to take a hit if there is one, and clap lines up well spectrum wise and needs the popularity. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 01:24 PM	#255
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	how does the popularity line up with what we chose coruption wise? I think thats most of it!` __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 01:35 PM	#257
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	yeah but i have good fundrasing, so i wont go away easy __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 01:41 PM	#259
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	"A Slurry power is the ability to throw money at a particular player to hurt their image within their own constituency and nationally, or to hurt the popularity of a bill." So it seems that a slurry would hurt him nationally, and I'd assume that since it looks like I'm fairly aheah of PF based on the popularity rankings, that the dems will be throwing a couple slurry's in my direction. That's if my understanding of it is correct. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-23-2008, 01:56 PM	#262
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think Render, and only Render, should vote the bodyguard bill. All other elephants should abstain. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 01:36 PM	#258
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Do we have any evidence that slurrying PF will help with the Presidential election? If not, I say go after Henry again. That veto along with yesterday's slurry of him, he's got to be close to getting out.

07-23-2008, 01:43 PM	#260
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Ahhh, alright. I assumed with the national lean at 53-47 anyway that it wouldn't likely matter. Makes sense though.

07-23-2008, 01:49 PM	#261
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I'm in!!! Catching up.

07-23-2008, 02:07 PM	#263
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	bill? do we have a bill writen? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 02:12 PM	#264
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	We do not. I think we are leaning towards a witness bill. I think the rule is that only one or two of us can introduce a bill, but I forget who that is. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 02:41 PM	#272
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I say we should worry about the presidency first, then about trying to knock out henry. Having the presidency will put us in position to change things to go our way for the next four days, and that's a big deal. Getting an extra vote would be a big deal, too, but I don't think henry is as close to the edge as some of you seem to. Anyone, ideas for small abilities for the witness?

07-23-2008, 02:42 PM	#273
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I could see splitting our slurry between the two of them -- seems like we're in a good position for illini to win the Presidency.

07-23-2008, 02:44 PM	#275
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	BTW, we also need to remember that by knocking someone out of their seat there's a good chance that we'll be knocking out a villager. I think winning the presidency will do our party as a whole more good for popularity than anything else right now. Although a 2-1 split would be an amicable compromise.

07-23-2008, 02:46 PM	#276
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Okay, we'll see what happens, I want this bill out by around 3 or so. Remember, we do need to lynch someone today -- we could just lynch Henry and try to take his seat that way, if we're already going to try to get him gone.

07-23-2008, 02:52 PM	#280
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think we can just make clap unvote.

07-23-2008, 02:52 PM	#281
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well...we should hold off as long as possible to vote, for sure. See if they, for some reason, go uncoordinated. Otherwise yes, we will be forced into a tie. My original plan was to wait for them to break and if they did just have all nine of us dump our votes on someone in a horribly partisan maneuver, but now I fear we're going to have that done to us.

07-23-2008, 02:52 PM	#282
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Oh, that's true Pass, duh. Worst case, if he leaves the game one of us will get the seat

07-23-2008, 02:56 PM	#283
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	? im voting as my constituents demand __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 03:01 PM	#285
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm not following the conversation, what are we talking about? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 03:12 PM	#287
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	What do you guys think about endorsing illini? Should some of us that aren't so popular stay out of it?

07-23-2008, 03:29 PM	#290
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I will have to get a vote in soon. I guess I'll vote KWhit. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 03:41 PM	#291
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Bill is going up soonish, I hope; it depends on when CR gets back to me and/or Pass.

07-23-2008, 03:50 PM	#293
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Well, do you have another idea? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 03:50 PM	#295
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	If we're going to jack a Dem just for the sake of it, let's kill henry and try to get something out of it. Otherwise, I don't have an idea.

07-23-2008, 04:08 PM	#297
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	clap, you've got three votes on you, and you're probably going to get every democrat voting you. The way I see it, you're going to have to change your vote to henry.

07-23-2008, 04:09 PM	#298
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	That or we could let him be lynched, and take his district for someone else.

07-23-2008, 04:15 PM	#299
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Screw it, I'm going to release the bill now.

07-23-2008, 05:00 PM	#300
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Heads up on the Dems -- the bill they're proposing started out as a brothers bill, but now gives a random non-wolf the right to PM the seer once per day. I told Lathum I wasn't sure where on the political spectrum that would fall, and he said they would ask CR.

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