Official College Football Week 3 Thread

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Matthean

He still put up 464 yards with 5 TDs against the Tide. He'll put up enough numbers through the season that there will be little doubt about him going pro, and I can't wait until he's gone.

Plus 98 yards on the ground with no real help from the running backs or some big play from the D or special teams. Hate him all you want for his off-field stuff, he's fun to watch play college football, and very good at it. The only teams to put up even 20 points on Alabama since 2010 were Georgia in last years SECCG (where Aaron Murray threw for 265), and weirdly Georgia Southern (where their QB completed 1 pass). The only other loss in that span was that 9-6 game LSU won in OT. You have to go back to the Cam Newton comeback in 2010 for a comparable QB performance vs. the Tide D, and he only had 213 yards passing and 22 carries for 39 yards. In back to back years, Manziel's put up 907 yards of offense and 71 points. This game wasn't a classic, but put any other QB in there and it isn't even a game with the way aTm's D played.

I hope he does stay for another year or two (although I doubt it), and I don't see why he can't at least be the SF version of Jeff Garcia, except with the added benefit of all the new rule changes and coordinators who will maximize his elusiveness (and willingness to take a hit).

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by chadritt

Bifocals even. South Carolina’s Landon Ard Ignores Taunts That Frame Him As a Bookworm - NYTimes.com

ESPN was making fun of him for it? Surprise, surprise.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by bob

How the hell did Notre Dame - Purdue become the big national ABC night game? And I'm saying this as a ND fan.

Add to the fact that Purdue is winning. Purdue's QB is 7-9 with a TD. Irish got some secondary issues.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by bob

How the hell did Notre Dame - Purdue become the big national ABC night game? And I'm saying this as a ND fan.

Big Ten Network called dibs on the Michigan-Akron showdown? Does Penn State or USC have a TV ban? The only other west coast teams ABC's heard of (Stanford, Oregon) played in the East today?

Originally Posted by Matthean

Add to the fact that Purdue is winning. Purdue's QB is 7-9 with a TD. Irish got some secondary issues.

I don't even know if it's the secondary or just a complete regression from the front 7. Even when they get pressure the QB can break contain, and the LB's are all slow on crossing routes or stretch runs (except Jaylon Smith, who should be playing every down). I expected Tommy Rees to suck, I didn't expect the front 7 to take a step back just because Te'o left (maybe Spond and Lewis-Moore were better than I gave them credit for).

[Lathum]

Really nice win for UW on the road against a Big 10 team. Got a little sloppy towards the end of the 3rd quarter. I would like to see us know when we have an opponent on the ropes and step on their throat, but I really like what I am seeing, excited for the season.

[Thomkal]

woohoo Coastal Carolina! Led by 7 at the half and pulled away from there winning big over Eastern Kentucky 51-32

[tarcone]

Iowa hangs on to win 27-21. Tried to give it away. But we couldnt do it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

How the hell did Notre Dame - Purdue become the big national ABC night game? And I'm saying this as a ND fan.

Not much else to choose from tonight really, nothing I see that would have given them a better audience (plus it might be in part to poke NBC in the eye a little bit)

[Izulde]

Let's see. Midway through the 2nd quarter and Central Michigan is winning 14-0, and Nick Sherry got benched 12 minutes in. Fast on the way to 0-3 and the end of that completely inept asstard Hauck's career in FBS. I can only laugh hysterically at how poorly this team is coached and prepared and eagerly await Hauck's sacking at season's end.

[mauchow]

Nice. Early jitters for wisconsin as Asu plays very aggressive on first two drives. All that said the Badgers went up 7-3 despite a horrid first quarter.

Then Asu makes a crucial mistake that you just cannot make in big games.. bad snap on punt and Badgers score a TD as ball rols into endzone instead of their punter trying to make a play and get a safety instead. 14-3.

I can relax... a tiny itsy bit only.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Really nice win for UW on the road against a Big 10 team. Got a little sloppy towards the end of the 3rd quarter. I would like to see us know when we have an opponent on the ropes and step on their throat, but I really like what I am seeing, excited for the season.

The Big Ten refs were also doing what they could to try to balance the scales.

[mauchow]

Badgers score on 80 yard run by Melvin Gordon on first play of half.. defense gets three and out and what happens... punt returner effs up and Asu recovers fumble..

But asu tries for homerun and picked off on next play. A td on this drive would be ginormous.

[SirFozzie]

Well, THAT finish in Wisconsin-ASU is going to be controversial.

[mauchow]

That was the biggest pile of shit call I have ever seen.

[mauchow]

Shittiest call I have evvvverrrr seeeeennnnn.

[mauchow]

I'm not gonna fall asleep tonight.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Well, THAT finish in Wisconsin-ASU is going to be controversial.

Yeah, with good reason - the Pac-12 refs absolutely fucked-over Wisconsin there.

[dawgfan]

That being said, not sure what Stave was doing there. Run to the middle, then take a knee - don't set the ball on the ground without falling down first. Still a major fuck-up by the refs, but only because Wisconsin gave them the opportunity to get fucked over.

[mauchow]

If there was ever a spot for an appeal this would be it. The refs were completely incompetent on that play.

Stave clearly kneed down.. he set the ball down for the ref and for 15 seconds the asu player laid on the ball and ref chatted with the players... 15 seconds ran off and ball game over. Wtf.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

That being said, not sure what Stave was doing there. Run to the middle, then take a knee - don't set the ball on the ground without falling down first. Still a major fuck-up by the refs, but only because Wisconsin gave them the opportunity to get fucked over.

He kneed down clearly.

If the ref is calling a turnover then the game clock stops at 9 seconds. The play is reviewed. Reversed and Badgers spike anyway and still get a 26 yd fg try.

[mauchow]

On this screencap, Stave DOES take a knee before getting up a... on Twitpic

He knees. Sets ball down. Asu proceeds to lay on ball for ten seconds. Ref sets down and proceeds to tell badgers to wait and clock runs out.

I'm flabbergasted.

I need to give up sports forever.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by mauchow

He kneed down clearly.

If the ref is calling a turnover then the game clock stops at 9 seconds. The play is reviewed. Reversed and Badgers spike anyway and still get a 26 yd fg try.

It didn't appear live that he put his knee down. It looked like he went to knee down, got knocked back by his lineman and then just placed the ball on the field. It certainly could be argued he "gave himself up", but it was a stupid play by the QB. He should have definitively taken a knee:


Still, the refs did blow the play dead and should have re-spot the ball with around 7 seconds left or called a delay on ASU. Pretty bad officiating.

[mauchow]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BULy_aiCQAAkXVB.jpg:large

The back line judge seemed to know what was going on but never intervened to call the delay penalty. Again... just a mess. I'm still awake pissed.

[Izulde]

I'll be damned. UNLV comes back to beat CMU thanks to the the defense pitching a second half shutout and Caleb Herring's connecting with Devante Davs for 3 TDs.

The 21 point deficit comeback win ties the largest comeback in school history.

[Izulde]

I just hope the team doesn't start playing well enough to give Hauck another year now.

[Dutch]

It should have been a delay penalty on ASU.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

For all the belly aching about the ball spot, it was stupid to even try that with :18 seconds left anyway. If your kicker can't hit that kick from the hash mark, you don't deserve to win anyway.

[I. J. Reilly]

Great news from Oregon State; Storm Woods was released from the hospital last night and flew home with the team. He took a really scary looking shot to the head and neck and didn't move at all for a long time before they strapped him to a board and took him out in an ambulance. So a major sigh of relief.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Mike D

ESPN was making fun of him for it? Surprise, surprise.

Well, Cris Carter has always been known for his insightful and intelligent commentary.

But, he's a kicker, too. Doesn't that come with it's own brand of hazing about how much of a wuss and nerd he is? So next up is "four eyes"? Silly.

SI

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

For all the belly aching about the ball spot, it was stupid to even try that with :18 seconds left anyway. If your kicker can't hit that kick from the hash mark, you don't deserve to win anyway.

Outside of that being irrelevant, I agree with you.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Yeah, with good reason - the Pac-12 refs absolutely fucked-over Wisconsin there.

I think the visitors bring the refs, no?

[lungs]

The refs were incompetent but if Stave doesn't do that odd kneel down that could have been construed as never having touched the ground, none of this happens. The field goal was no chip shot for the Badgers either.

Melvin Gordon is something else, but Joel Stave seems like one of those QBs that looks great against mediocre competition but pretty mediocre against anything of quality.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Arles

It didn't appear live that he put his knee down. It looked like he went to knee down, got knocked back by his lineman and then just placed the ball on the field. It certainly could be argued he "gave himself up", but it was a stupid play by the QB. He should have definitively taken a knee:


Still, the refs did blow the play dead and should have re-spot the ball with around 7 seconds left or called a delay on ASU. Pretty bad officiating.

Should have been ASU ball, so you are right, bad officiating.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Should have been ASU ball, so you are right, bad officiating.

By rule, it was a kneel down. He clearly was kneeling and that's all it takes. It's written that way to prevent a fake kneel, then stand and throw.

Refs blew that one royally. Should have been a spike and field goal attempt.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Should have been ASU ball, so you are right, bad officiating.

If its 'asu' ball the clock stops at 12 and its reviewed and it would be clear that a kneeldown was made..

Completely illogical to say otberwise.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by rowech

By rule, it was a kneel down. He clearly was kneeling and that's all it takes. It's written that way to prevent a fake kneel, then stand and throw.

Refs blew that one royally. Should have been a spike and field goal attempt.

There is a rule to prevent a fake kneel down? Who is making these rules?

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by mauchow

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BULy_aiCQAAkXVB.jpg:large

The back line judge seemed to know what was going on but never intervened to call the delay penalty. Again... just a mess. I'm still awake pissed.

I assume you are a alum of UW?

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

There is a rule to prevent a fake kneel down? Who is making these rules?

People anticipating things Mike Leach is going to try.

[General Mike]

Gary Nova got a concussion yesterday. Very worried about Rutgers' season if he misses extended time.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think the visitors bring the refs, no?

Used to be that way, but not currently. That was a Pac-12 crew.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Galaril

I assume you are a alum of UW?

What does that have to do with the result of the awful finish?

Homerism? Its clearly not.

The Ex NFL Ref VP Mike Periera confirmed what I've said amongst many others. There were to rules that should have been implied but neither were. Delay of game or unfair time something.. I can't rcall the rule off the top of my head.

Let's just say the guy on the forums who reffes his first d1 game yesterday better not have been the one who effed up.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by mauchow

What does that have to do with the result of the awful finish?

Homerism? Its clearly not.

The Ex NFL Ref VP Mike Periera confirmed what I've said amongst many others. There were to rules that should have been implied but neither were. Delay of game or unfair time something.. I can't rcall the rule off the top of my head.

Let's just say the guy on the forums who reffes his first d1 game yesterday better not have been the one who effed up.

I call BS. Refs screw up games in college and NFL all of the time, replacements or not, but you're the one flying off the handle about it.

[mauchow]

You're right. It was just a missed call. Shucks.

[Buccaneer]

At least you are not saying the refs should have been instantly fired and then taken out and executed as Troy would have.

[Kodos]

Hey, at least Wisconsin wasn't trying to run up the score.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by bob

How the hell did Notre Dame - Purdue become the big national ABC night game? And I'm saying this as a ND fan.

Wait until next Saturday night on ABC: Michigan at UConn.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Logan

Wait until next Saturday night on ABC: Michigan at UConn.

Gamedaybis at ndsu....will that be the prime time game?

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

And LA wants a NFL team...

Yup. Would do well here in LA too

[Lathum]

so what game did Sak do?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

At least you are not saying the refs should have been instantly fired and then taken out and executed as Troy would have.

I'd be down with that.

I've got zero interest in/for either team, that's one of the worst calls I've ever seen in my life. Not sure any official involved should ever work on the field again.