Yet another school shooting.

[Lathum]

Or, you know, we could just make it harder, not easier, to get guns. I mean, things are going so well in Texas.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Someone's clearly gunning for Tucker's old spot


SI

that's what heathers do

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

This reminds me of the NextDoor app during Halloween. Bunch of weirdos threatening to point guns at trick or treaters if they ring their bell.

He lost his membership in the National Weather Association and I hope his job:


https://twitter.com/nwas/status/1653785408717697026

[RainMaker]

I'd say an order of protection around local elementary schools might not be bad either.

[Edward64]

US contagion spreading to Serbia. Mass killings on consecutive days.

Dubona: At least eight dead as Serbia rocked by second mass shooting in two days | CNN

At least eight people have been killed and 13 wounded in a shooting in the Serbian village of Dubona, the country’s Interior Ministry spokesperson told CNN.

The shooter remains at large, and a warrant has been issued for a 21-year-old male suspect. The police have cordoned off the area where they suspected him to be hiding, according CNN affiliate channel N1.

This comes a day after the Balkan country was rocked by news of a 13-year-old boy opening fire on classmates at a school in the capital Belgrade. That shooting left at least eight children dead, along with a security guard.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Edward64

If it's other law abiding people with guns, no.

From criminal elements, yes.

From criminal elements with guns, yes.


EDIT: from Cocaine Bears, definitely yes.

Gottcha.

[QuikSand]

“We will pretty much take the firearms away from the citizens.”

— Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić, via translator, announces new gun control measures following the country’s second mass shooting in 48 hours pic.twitter.com/H5hdcMgvJ3

— The Recount (@therecount) May 5, 2023

This is likely to become a bad turn for US gun politics... of the "see, this is what they really want" variety.

[Lathum]

I’m sure there will be a lot of false flag but jobs.

[flere-imsaho]

So, pretty much not like the United States, then.

[HerRealName]

Active shooting situation with multiple victims at the Allen Outlet Mall in Allen, TX. We were there yesterday. Can't wait until we can leave this fucking hellhole of a state.

[RainMaker]

There are some graphic videos floating around social media. Dead kids. People should see them.

[RainMaker]

I'm EMBARRASSED: Texas #2 in nation for new gun purchases, behind CALIFORNIA. Let's pick up the pace Texans. @NRA https://t.co/Ry2GInbS1g

— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) October 28, 2015

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

There are some graphic videos floating around social media. Dead kids. People should see them.

I saw a still. Looked like a bunch of dead people, kids included, who were maybe hiding. Horrible.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Active shooting situation with multiple victims at the Allen Outlet Mall in Allen, TX. We were there yesterday. Can't wait until we can leave this fucking hellhole of a state.

When we visit my parents in Richardson, we would always go there. This sucks.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Active shooting situation with multiple victims at the Allen Outlet Mall in Allen, TX. We were there yesterday. Can't wait until we can leave this fucking hellhole of a state.

My wife worked there in high school. Crazy.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Active shooting situation with multiple victims at the Allen Outlet Mall in Allen, TX. We were there yesterday. Can't wait until we can leave this fucking hellhole of a state.

Representative Keith Self, who represents Allen, Texas, said on CNN that critics who are calling for more than “thoughts and prayers” after Saturday’s shooting “don’t believe in almighty God, who is absolutely in control of our lives” and instead said the country’s lack of “mental health institutions” is to blame.

“Really I would like to stay away from the politics today because I want to focus on the victims, today we should be focused on the families,” he said. “Prayers are important and they are important in the families that are devastated right now.”

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Representative Keith Self, who represents Allen, Texas, said on CNN that critics who are calling for more than “thoughts and prayers” after Saturday’s shooting “don’t believe in almighty God, who is absolutely in control of our lives” and instead said the country’s lack of “mental health institutions” is to blame.

“Really I would like to stay away from the politics today because I want to focus on the victims, today we should be focused on the families,” he said. “Prayers are important and they are important in the families that are devastated right now.”

The right's thing after recent shootings has been to complain about mental health issues in the country while simultaneously doing nothing about it because they know it's more than that.

[cuervo72]

So am I right that his take then is pretty much "God is ok with these shootings"?

[flere-imsaho]

We're talking about a GOP rep from Texas - if anything, he should be in a mental institution.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

So am I right that his take then is pretty much "God is ok with these shootings"?

Yep, because it's god's will and they're going to better place.

It's becoming like the creepy people that pray for the rapture because they believe the afterlife is better than life here.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

We're talking about a GOP rep from Texas - if anything, he should be in a mental institution.

As I said, my wife worked at this mall in HS and her family still lives not far from it. They're also the stereotypical gun loving, fox news watching right wingers.

When my wife told me of the shooting I told her, lets see how they blame the darkies for this and lets see how long it takes for someone to blame mental health without mentioning guns. That was less than an hour before the post above where their rep mentioned mental health. Right before that her mom called and said they heard from people around there that it was a black guy that got out of his vehicle and yell "kill all the white people". That means her step dad read it on facebook, of course, but they're not going to admit that.

[albionmoonlight]

If the GOP were serious about funding mental health, I’d support that 100%. I just don’t think that they are serious.

[Kodos]

It’s just another way to not blame the guns.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

If the GOP were serious about funding mental health, I’d support that 100%. I just don’t think that they are serious.

They could give two shits about it, because they would have to add it to background checks, then extend background checks to enforce it.

[Lathum]

I had a tweet about the latest mass shooting that was replied to by Brian Krassenstein and his 700K followers and holy shit, the level of crazy is insanity.

[NobodyHere]

Who's Brian Krassenstein?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Who's Brian Krassenstein?

Who knows, some twitter political guy.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Who knows, some twitter political guy.

He does have a Wikipedia page so he must be important.

[albionmoonlight]

It is crazy to remember how long Columbine was in the news.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Atocep

As I said, my wife worked at this mall in HS and her family still lives not far from it. They're also the stereotypical gun loving, fox news watching right wingers.

When my wife told me of the shooting I told her, lets see how they blame the darkies for this and lets see how long it takes for someone to blame mental health without mentioning guns. That was less than an hour before the post above where their rep mentioned mental health. Right before that her mom called and said they heard from people around there that it was a black guy that got out of his vehicle and yell "kill all the white people". That means her step dad read it on facebook, of course, but they're not going to admit that.

Not that they'll ever believe this, but: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ooting-dallas/

Authorities have not released a motive, but a patch on his chest said “RWDS,” an acronym that stands for Right Wing Death Squad, according to people familiar with the investigation. The phrase is popular among right wing extremists, neo-Nazis and white supremacists, they said.

[Ghost Econ]

I've already been told he's an illegal gang member with gang tattoos and is part of a cartel and we need to close the border

[GrantDawg]

Rorschach mass shooter

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[RainMaker]

Sounds like a neo-nazi and an incel. Not terribly surprising. Guess the patch he wore was popular among the Proud Boys. Maybe their conviction for sedition was his breaking point.


Allen, TX Mass Shooter Posted Neo-Nazi Content, FBI Document Reveals – Rolling Stone

[Ksyrup]

My MIL and FIL were over for dinner (her birthday). He's probably an illegal, she says. Story comes on about the SUV who ran over 7 people in Brownsville. They should ban SUVs then, she says.

I just acted like I didn't hear anything.

[Thomkal]

oof Ksyrup

[Lathum]

better man then I am. My MIL and I have had it out a few times to the point of my FIL telling her she needs to knock it off. He was a Trump supporter until the insurrection and see how he defense of him has ruined relationships.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

My MIL and FIL were over for dinner (her birthday). He's probably an illegal, she says. Story comes on about the SUV who ran over 7 people in Brownsville. They should ban SUVs then, she says.

I just acted like I didn't hear anything.

The amount of times I have to hold my tongue around my in-laws... mainly because I'm only around them if my daughter is. There's a reason their son moved literally as far away as possible while still being in the contiguous US.

[GrantDawg]

I was hanging out with an old friend yesterday. His family lives down here while he and his wife live in Maryland. She refuses to come down to see them and deal with thier crazy politics. He says the worst is his sister. His lesbian ER doc sister is by far the most extreme. He says his wife just can't fathom the jump in logic she takes to defend people who would happily outlaw her existence not mention claim what she went through on the front lines of COVID was all fraud.
My friend that works in National Security told me how bad things got around 2020. He said people would want the TV's in his station on Fox News, and people would get pissed. Yet if they turned it on CNN other people get pissed. He finally made them turn it on BBC News. It was the only compromise that kept the peace.

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[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

My MIL and FIL were over for dinner (her birthday). He's probably an illegal, she says. Story comes on about the SUV who ran over 7 people in Brownsville. They should ban SUVs then, she says.

I just acted like I didn't hear anything.

People are really demented. I understand why you'd hold your tongue but also we're at a stage when these people are making up lies to defend a mass murderer.

[CrimsonFox]

oh no i missed a mass shooting. Why didn't someone page me

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

oh no i missed a mass shooting. Why didn't someone page me

Don't worry, it won't be long before the next one.

[CrimsonFox]

I feel left out.
someone give me the deets and please do so in a performance art dance style

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

People are really demented. I understand why you'd hold your tongue but also we're at a stage when these people are making up lies to defend a mass murderer.

It's just reciting what they see on Fox News. I've talked about this with my wife - we go over to their house on a Saturday afternoon and they've got Fox on. Who the hell needs to be watching Fox News on a Saturday afternoon? Get a fucking life!

The rote comment about "banning SUVs" as if she's a spokesman for the NRA really gets me, and it's where you can see the damage that's been done. Neither of our sets of parents have ever fired a gun, let alone owned one, in their lives. My BIL is a Florida state trooper but that's as close to a gun as they've ever gotten. There's no logical reason to be doing the NRAs work except Fox News has drilled it into their heads. My parents are the same way. They live about 30 minutes from Allen. They could have been there. I could see my mom blaming and defending based on the Fox taking points even if my dad was laying dead in that mall.

For my own sanity, I just have to let it go. I have... thoughts about the whole thing, but they are probably more appropriate for the mental health thread.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Who the hell needs to be watching Fox News on a Saturday afternoon? Get a fucking life!

If we, as a culture, committed to giving more meaningful opportunities for engagement and community to the elderly/retired, we'd all be better off.

They'd have more fulfilled and meaningful lives.

And they'd have something to do other than watch TV or browse facebook and get angry/lonely.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

If we, as a culture, committed to giving more meaningful opportunities for engagement and community to the elderly/retired, we'd all be better off.

They'd have more fulfilled and meaningful lives.

And they'd have something to do other than watch TV or browse facebook and get angry/lonely.

So true.

My in laws used to sit around eating junk food and watching Fox news. My MIL had a heart transplant several years earlier. She started having really bad check ups and they decided to get healthier. Both lost significant weight and with their new found health are far more active than they were which results in less FOX News binging. The difference is night and day with them now. They are so much happier.

It really is like a drug. There is something in there, likely the validation that it is ok to hate the people you hate because the TV tells you to, that keeps them coming back and for longer stretches.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So true.

My in laws used to sit around eating junk food and watching Fox news. My MIL had a heart transplant several years earlier. She started having really bad check ups and they decided to get healthier. Both lost significant weight and with their new found health are far more active than they were which results in less FOX News binging. The difference is night and day with them now. They are so much happier.

It really is like a drug. There is something in there, likely the validation that it is ok to hate the people you hate because the TV tells you to, that keeps them coming back and for longer stretches.

Agreed.

My parents have been completely taken over by Fox News, my dad especially. He's always been conservative, but once he retired a while back it started with conservative radio - mainly Rush Limbaugh. He got big into that and then Fox News.

My folks watched so much Fox News that they ruined their OLEG 4K TV because an image of the Fox News banner was permanently burned into the screen. They eventually had to get a new TV and researched one where they wouldn't happen. They watch two things: Fox News & golf.

[Ksyrup]

Yep, Rush was the gateway for my parents.

Since I now have YTTV and can order/hide certain channels, I've given some thought to hiding Fox News and having them come to me asking about it on their TV in the basement. I've already dumped OAN but that's one of those that not every service has. Fox News would be a provocation if I did that.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Agreed.

My parents have been completely taken over by Fox News, my dad especially. He's always been conservative, but once he retired a while back it started with conservative radio - mainly Rush Limbaugh. He got big into that and then Fox News.

My folks watched so much Fox News that they ruined their OLEG 4K TV because an image of the Fox News banner was permanently burned into the screen. They eventually had to get a new TV and researched one where they wouldn't happen. They watch two things: Fox News & golf.

Wow. Talk about a torturous house to visit…

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Wow. Talk about a tortuous house to visit…

This was my in laws. When we moved back to NJ we were waiting for our Oregon house to sell and buy a house here we stayed with them. For 13 months. It was horrible. Thankfully we had our own living space, but a shared kitchen. When you're exposed to it like that it's amazing how you pick up on all the scare tactics and precise wording they use.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Since I now have YTTV and can order/hide certain channels, I've given some thought to hiding Fox News and having them come to me asking about it on their TV in the basement. I've already dumped OAN but that's one of those that not every service has. Fox News would be a provocation if I did that.

Congratulations on being the adult in the room

Your parents and in-laws would drive me crazy. They won't change. You won't change them. I'd just accept it and minimize any unnecessary contacts with them.

Out of curiosity, what's their take on the Dominion payout?