The Trump Presidency – 2016

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

or, ya know, provide clean water for Flint citizens.

Well, for some LONG overdue news:

https://apnews.com/article/flint-lea...0e37a06a82f08d

[kingfc22]

Just for accurate record keeping in this thread.

Trump is now the first US President to ever be impeached twice.

Congrats on the accomplishment!

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Just for accurate record keeping in this thread.

Trump is now the first US President to ever be impeached twice.

Congrats on the accomplishment!

WINNING!!!

[JPhillips]

Those 10 GOPers will either run the party or be out of office soon.

[Jas_lov]

I liked how Amash's replacement voted for it after Trump ran Amash out of the party for supporting the first impeachment. I saw Gym Jordan is calling for Liz Cheney to lose her leadership position. Isn't that cancel culture?

[rjolley]

With the impeachment through the House, can they hold onto it for the 100 days before sending it to the Senate, or was the 100 day thing for the House to do it?

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Not quite. The the judge in that case was remarking that accepting a pardon would lead to the perception of guilt by the public. Not that he's actually guilty of anything.

Just like if someone "pleads the fifth". You probably think that they have something to hide.

That's the opposite of what Burdick says:

This brings us to the differences between legislative immunity and a pardon. They are substantial. The latter carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it. The former has no such imputation or confession. It is tantamount to the silence of the witness. It is noncommittal. It is the unobtrusive act of the law given protection against a sinister use of his testimony, not like a pardon, requiring him to confess his guilt in order to avoid a conviction of it.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/236/79

Legislative immunity = pleading the fifth

There is a reason you can refuse a pardon after all.

[JediKooter]

Congrats to trump on receiving his second impeachment in only 1 term. It's truly amazing what you can accomplish with some incompetence and fascism thrown in.

[CrimsonFox]

A huge reason as to why congress sucks...

US intelligence agencies have 180 days to share what they know about UFOs, thanks to the Covid-19 relief and spending bill

Tacking on something totally unrelated to a bill about covid help

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

A huge reason as to why congress sucks...

US intelligence agencies have 180 days to share what they know about UFOs, thanks to the Covid-19 relief and spending bill

Tacking on something totally unrelated to a bill about covid help

Not to the covid bill

It's a stipulation that was tucked into the "committee comment" section of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021, which was contained in the massive spending bill.

Remember the spending bill and covid relief bill were put together for ease of passage (so both could be approved quickly), but they were still created seperately.

[GrantDawg]

Don't worry, guys. Six days is plenty long enough for Trump to find another way to get impeached.

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[molson]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Don't worry, guys. Six days is plenty long enough for Trump to find another way to get impeached.

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The Washington Post reported that if he gets to 5 impeachments he gets a free pizza!

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by molson

The Washington Post reported that if he gets to 5 impeachments he gets a free pizza!

uh....what kind of pizza.

but lucky for him if he spills any on himself it blends in with his face

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Not to the covid bill



Remember the spending bill and covid relief bill were put together for ease of passage (so both could be approved quickly), but they were still created seperately.

oh...but still....UF-fucking-Os

[CrimsonFox]

Motion to change Rittenhouse's bond agreement after allegedly flashing white-power signs at bar

They really need to throw this kid away

[JPhillips]

Ivanka and Jared refusing to let the Secret Service use any of their 6 bathrooms is too perfect.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Motion to change Rittenhouse's bond agreement after allegedly flashing white-power signs at bar

They really need to throw this kid away

The Proud Boys theme song is from a Disney movie?

I don't know what to do with that information.

This kid is in for such a rude awakening.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Ivanka and Jared refusing to let the Secret Service use any of their 6 bathrooms is too perfect.

It's almost like these people are jerks.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Ivanka and Jared refusing to let the Secret Service use any of their 6 bathrooms is too perfect.

It's even worse than that isn't it?

From The Post:

But it came at a cost to U.S. taxpayers. Since September 2017, the federal government has been spending $3,000 a month — more than $100,000 to date —to rent a basement studio, with a bathroom, from a neighbor of the Kushner family.

I don't even know what to call that tbh.

[Atocep]

This is really sad to see and I hope it's something that improves as we move away from the Trump administration. I can say that when I was in the Army I didn't see a single instance of white Nationalism, but I also didn't serve in a Combat MOS which I'm guessing is where the majority of this problem sits.


The military has a hate group problem. But it doesn't know how bad it's gotten. - POLITICO

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This is really sad to see and I hope it's something that improves as we move away from the Trump administration. I can say that when I was in the Army I didn't see a single instance of white Nationalism, but I also didn't serve in a Combat MOS which I'm guessing is where the majority of this problem sits.


The military has a hate group problem. But it doesn't know how bad it's gotten. - POLITICO

Sadly I did see it when I was in in the early 80's and some were quite open about it around people that looked like them. Resulted in me cutting certain pricks out of my circle with a swiftness and even led to a fight with one of them that was all too comfortable calling me a "n****er loving sonofabitch"

This same dude, coincidentally once wore a shirt on the weekend that featured a Klansman in full regalia on a horse holding a confederate flag with the words "These colors never run" emblazoned above the image. nothing happened to him, outside of being "talked" into taking it off by one of the black dudes in our platoon, but not a word from the Cadre and I know it was reported.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

uh....what kind of pizza.

but lucky for him if he spills any on himself it blends in with his face

Pineapple, but, it comes with a free frogurt.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This is really sad to see and I hope it's something that improves as we move away from the Trump administration. I can say that when I was in the Army I didn't see a single instance of white Nationalism, but I also didn't serve in a Combat MOS which I'm guessing is where the majority of this problem sits.

The military has a hate group problem. But it doesn't know how bad it's gotten. - POLITICO

They've had this problem since the 90's. Don't see it changing anytime soon.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They've had this problem since the 90's. Don't see it changing anytime soon.

See my post, long before that

[CrimsonFox]

Spotted owls' habitat slashed by Trump administration policy | king5.com

[GrantDawg]

Why do Republicans hate spotted owls so much? Are they socialist or something?

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[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This is really sad to see and I hope it's something that improves as we move away from the Trump administration. I can say that when I was in the Army I didn't see a single instance of white Nationalism, but I also didn't serve in a Combat MOS which I'm guessing is where the majority of this problem sits.


The military has a hate group problem. But it doesn't know how bad it's gotten. - POLITICO

Funny, I was debating where to put this one. I was going to put it in the Michael Brown thread.

As far as for how long, well the KKK paraded around a Vietnam base after MLK was shot.

This has been and is currently known. But as always, just discussing the issue has traditionally made people uncomfortable. So now, we have concrete proof that it is a threat to national security and can not be told that saying so is just hyperbole. I have a bit more hope than Rainmaker that it will change soon but soon for me is about ten years down the road.

[Edward64]

Nice read on how Trump will rank as President. The article is assuming worst or at the bottom. I don't disagree but think there needs to be some time, proper reflection etc. before a final ranking is determined.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/polit...ked/index.html

[albionmoonlight]

I'm still in the Buchannan was worse camp.

"James, when we gave you the country, it was in one piece."

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They've had this problem since the 90's. Don't see it changing anytime soon.

We have a volunteer military that needs as many people as are willing to serve. We either have to accept it doing far less than it currently does, reinstitute some form of compulsory service as a civic duty, or a certain amount of pyschopaths will be included in the ranks.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I'm still in the Buchannan was worse camp.

"James, when we gave you the country, it was in one piece."

Originally Posted by wiki

Buchanan was the first native-born Pennsylvanian to serve as president and would remain the only native-born Pennsylvanian to be elected president until Joe Biden in 2020

Oh crap.

SI

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

We have a volunteer military that needs as many people as are willing to serve. We either have to accept it doing far less than it currently does, reinstitute some form of compulsory service as a civic duty, or a certain amount of pyschopaths will be included in the ranks.

Psychopaths getting into the military isn't as much of a concern as allowing psychopathic behavior to run rampant because leadership doesn't want the stain of shinning a light on it to damage their careers. The military has a long history of burying their head in the sand when it comes to serious issues only acting when there's an incident that sparks enough public outrage.

Using Fort Hood as an example, everyone in the Army either knew or had an idea of what was going on there for years whether you had served there or not. I was never there but heard warnings and stories in the 90s about how bad it was. It took multiple soldiers dying and intense media and public pressure for the Army to finally act. This doesn't have to happen, but leaders need to be held account liable rather than just the last person left holding the ball.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Psychopaths getting into the military isn't as much of a concern as allowing psychopathic behavior to run rampant because leadership doesn't want the stain of shinning a light on it to damage their careers. The military has a long history of burying their head in the sand when it comes to serious issues only acting when there's an incident that sparks enough public outrage.

Using Fort Hood as an example, everyone in the Army either knew or had an idea of what was going on there for years whether you had served there or not. I was never there but heard warnings and stories in the 90s about how bad it was. It took multiple soldiers dying and intense media and public pressure for the Army to finally act. This doesn't have to happen, but leaders need to be held account liable rather than just the last person left holding the ball.

Fort Hood is the perfect example. The culture and issues there have been a known "secret" for years

[albionmoonlight]

Trump is planning to leave D.C. the morning of the 20th (while he is still President) with a full military send-off.

The mad king gets to play dress up one more time before he gets home to a $400 million bill from Deutsche Bank.

(This will apparently involve logistical problems because the military will have to have two nuclear footballs instead of one that passes from the outgoing President to the incoming President at noon without physically moving at the inauguration. But it wouldn't be Trump if he didn't make things harder than they needed to be on our national security apparatus just to make himself feel important.).

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

(This will apparently involve logistical problems because the military will have to have two nuclear footballs instead of one that passes from the outgoing President to the incoming President at noon without physically moving at the inauguration. But it wouldn't be Trump if he didn't make things harder than they needed to be on our national security apparatus just to make himself feel important.).

For the seemingly millionth time: He's such a small, petty man

SI

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

For the seemingly millionth time: He's such a small, petty man

SI

We were just saying the exact same thing.

The should just not show up, leave him standing there with no ride so he has to call an Uber.

[Thomkal]

NRA filed for bankruptcy today but says they will reform in Texas to get away from the "toxic political environment" in NY (and no doubt the State Attorney General of NY who is looking into a criminal case to defund them)

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

NRA filed for bankruptcy today but says they will reform in Texas to get away from the "toxic political environment" in NY (and no doubt the State Attorney General of NY who is looking into a criminal case to defund them)

“We need a state with an attorney general who will let us steal from our rubes, sorry we mean ‘members,’ with impunity.”

[NobodyHere]

Not sure if right thread:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/nra-...-in-texas.html

I imagine liberals are ecstatic over this.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Not sure if right thread:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/nra-...-in-texas.html

I imagine liberals are ecstatic over this.

From Andy Borowitz: "Cash-strapped NRA Puts Two Hundred Republican Politicians on eBay"

[Thomkal]

It's a quiet last Friday night of the Trump Presidency so far-seems like almost the only thing anyone is talking (and joking) about on Twitter is the My Pillow guy visiting the White House.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

From Andy Borowitz: "Cash-strapped NRA Puts Two Hundred Republican Politicians on eBay"

If only we had a like button

[CrimsonFox]

Guys, I'm worried. I'm starting to think Trump is not going to release his health care plan.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Not sure if right thread:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/nra-...-in-texas.html

I imagine liberals are ecstatic over this.

Schools being closed has hurt their business I guess.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Guys, I'm worried. I'm starting to think Trump is not going to release his health care plan.

And when is Mexico going to pay for the wall?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Schools being closed has hurt their business I guess.

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Schools being closed has hurt their business I guess.

Oof.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

And when is Mexico going to pay for the wall?

Unfortunately the Dems didn't want to go along with the master plan to have Mexico pay for the wall.

I forget the amount but Trump had a brief opportunity to get much more funding for the Wall early in his 4 years if he was willing to negotiate. He obviously gambled and lost that one.

But then again, he did play hardball with Mexico and Mexico did use their troops to stop many illegals at their southern border and at the US border ...

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Not sure if right thread:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/nra-...-in-texas.html

I imagine liberals are ecstatic over this.

Don't worry, their coffers will fill up again shortly with the Biden gun control policies.

[JPhillips]

What master plan to have Mexico pay for the wall? It was always a lie.