WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 66

jeheinz72 · 05-08-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

OK out of the thinking out loud side of my head.

I'll need your feedback on this.

Given that the mechanics are really unknown and while familiar, they are also somewhat different from a normal game. Could a typical villager role, say the Duke, be a wolf role?

BK dukes Pass, and forever earns our trust?

Shout me down, whatever. I know I just said that we need to focus on the uncleards, and I'm not advocating a lynch for BK. I'm just thinking out loud, and wanting feedback.

If that's the case then I'll never play in one of Abe's games again (If BK started as a wolf and the duke). That's insane, and no, I don't think Abe would do that to us.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 02:51 PM

Sam Montgomery, pro-union, had ran for the Republican party nomination. Due to the massive corruption of the political machine in the state of WV, it is impossible to know whether or not the victor, Republican Ephraim Morgan actually won, or if Montgomery had pulled it out. Company guards stood at polling places and there were claims of ballot boxes not even sent in.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

If that's the case then I'll never play in one of Abe's games again (If BK started as a wolf and the duke). That's insane, and no, I don't think Abe would do that to us.

Yeah, if that's the case, you might as well just toss the L on the board and move on to the next game. I don't see anyway Abe put that in.

Glengoyne · 05-08-2009, 03:03 PM

Damn. Lunch plans changed. Still here.

RendeR · 05-08-2009, 03:05 PM

I am SO confused.

Glengoyne · 05-08-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Yeah, if that's the case, you might as well just toss the L on the board and move on to the next game. I don't see anyway Abe put that in.

Like I said I'm feeling misguided, so I'm questioning my assumptions. All of them.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:09 PM

I think if we win this game it's going to be by converting camps, though with as fast as people are dying that may be tough.

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:10 PM

as fast as people are dying? there have been 2 deaths this month....

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:11 PM

lol, you're right.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 03:14 PM

Your attention please:

There were three triggers for the Game Ending event. As of today, all three have occured.

Tomorrow, Day Ten, we will begin the final event and the game will change to a strategy game from a WW game. All of your decisions, who is alive, and the camps converted will impact your starting positions.

After Night Nine, you will be given the rules to the game changing event. On Monday Morning, we will begin the event, and sometime that day, or the following day at the latest, the game will end with a victor.

You are about to compete in the largest civil uprising in American history, and the largest of any kind since the Civil War. By the border between Boone and Logan county, you will fight and die on the slopes of Blair Mountain.

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:14 PM

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:15 PM

now im even more conffuzzled!

maybe this is to offset the fact that I have no idea whats going on

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:15 PM

ABE can you tell us what the events were?

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:16 PM

Well that's interesting. So the sympathizers don't win and the laborers don't win.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Trigger #1 - The successful recruitment of Mother Jones
Trigger #2 - The successful recruitment of Sid Hatfield
Trigger #3 - When given the "On the Steps of the Courthouse" Event, the Sympathizers chose to kill Sid over the other options.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Well that's interesting. So the sympathizers don't win and the laborers don't win.

One side will win the Battle and thereby win the game.

RendeR · 05-08-2009, 03:18 PM

The train, the assassination of the sheriff...what was the other one?

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:18 PM

Looks like the sympathizers may have helped us out then.

RendeR · 05-08-2009, 03:18 PM

Oh ignore my post, I'm wrong =)

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

One side will win the Battle and thereby win the game.

Oh, I thought it was a free for all

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:18 PM

so the wolves chose to kill sid......

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

Oh ignore my post, I'm wrong =)

were used to that

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:19 PM

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:20 PM

We've all been wrong about pretty much everything this game, so it's all good.

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 03:21 PM

i havent been wrong, ive been to confused to guess

jeheinz72 · 05-08-2009, 03:22 PM

Abe, will the time commitment for Monday be any different than normal?

RendeR · 05-08-2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

were used to that

Oink Oink....

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Abe, will the time commitment for Monday be any different than normal?

Yes. You will get the rules on Sunday night/Monday morning at 1 am when the Night 9 is over. The Battle of Blair Mountain will begin in the morning around 9 or 10 or so. However, your availability is not necessarily requires for each of the day deadlines. You will see.

jeheinz72 · 05-08-2009, 03:30 PM

Oh ok cool. Because I'll likely be hungover the few hours I'm actually at work.

Lathum · 05-08-2009, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

OK out of the thinking out loud side of my head.

I'll need your feedback on this.

Given that the mechanics are really unknown and while familiar, they are also somewhat different from a normal game. Could a typical villager role, say the Duke, be a wolf role?

BK dukes Pass, and forever earns our trust?

Shout me down, whatever. I know I just said that we need to focus on the uncleards, and I'm not advocating a lynch for BK. I'm just thinking out loud, and wanting feedback.

I would be very surprised is the duke began as a wolf, but while I think it unlikely the BG or seer could be converted I think it is possible the duke could be.

Lathum · 05-08-2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Yes. You will get the rules on Sunday night/Monday morning at 1 am when the Night 9 is over. The Battle of Blair Mountain will begin in the morning around 9 or 10 or so. However, your availability is not necessarily requires for each of the day deadlines. You will see.

there is no way I will be up a 6 or 7 AM.

any reason why we can't get the rules sooner, like now, so we have time to discuss over the weekend and the rest of the day?

PurdueBrad · 05-08-2009, 03:42 PM

Not really sure what to expect because Abe's games are always really complex so this should be interesting.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:52 PM

I'm with Jeheinz, I'm mostly on vacation for the next two weeks and would like rules in advance, so I don't need to wake up early on Monday.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 03:52 PM

Err, I'm with Lathum

jeheinz72 · 05-08-2009, 04:02 PM

Which is like being with me, since apparently Lathum and I agree all the time.

Lathum · 05-08-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm with Jeheinz, I'm mostly on vacation for the next two weeks and would like rules in advance, so I don't need to wake up early on Monday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Which is like being with me, since apparently Lathum and I agree all the time.

we sure do!

damn

Barkeep49 · 05-08-2009, 04:15 PM

Well since we haven't known what the hell is going on, why change things now?

Glengoyne · 05-08-2009, 04:26 PM

So let me get this straight.

There really is no chance I can lynch Barkeep?

ntndeacon · 05-08-2009, 05:14 PM

Work Hunting

Danny · 05-08-2009, 05:19 PM

NTN, I think it's too late for that.

claphamsa · 05-08-2009, 05:29 PM

vote abe

ntndeacon · 05-08-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

NTN, I think it's too late for that.

Why would you think that? I am not at all convinced it is too late.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 05:42 PM

Maybe not then, I guess the game doesn't change until after today.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

there is no way I will be up a 6 or 7 AM.

any reason why we can't get the rules sooner, like now, so we have time to discuss over the weekend and the rest of the day?

No, otherwise they might impact Day 9 and Night 9 decisions.

Danny · 05-08-2009, 05:56 PM

What about running the night deadline early once the orders are in?

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

What about running the night deadline early once the orders are in?

Perhaps that would be feasible.

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 06:06 PM

One of the first things Gov. Morgan had to do was observe over a shootout between labor and company gun-thugs in the town of Willis Branch, which was almost completely shot up. He decided to firmly ally himself with the company and come down on labor for these issues.

Glengoyne · 05-08-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

One of the first things Gov. Morgan had to do was observe over a shootout between labor and company gun-thugs in the town of Willis Branch, which was almost completely shot up. He decided to firmly ally himself with the company and come down on labor for these issues.

The Bastard!

Abe Sargent · 05-08-2009, 07:04 PM

With the full weight of the government against them, laws began to be passed to attack striking miners. One bill allowed juries to be pulled from other counties thus allowing a jury from an anti union county to be assembled. Another law was the doubling of the size of the state police force, and yet another allowed the deputization of any persons deemed necessary in these times of conflict. Many people were handed guns, paid some money, deputized, and told to keep the strikers in line.

05-08-2009, 02:51 PM	#3251
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Hmmm __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-08-2009, 02:51 PM	#3253
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Sam Montgomery, pro-union, had ran for the Republican party nomination. Due to the massive corruption of the political machine in the state of WV, it is impossible to know whether or not the victor, Republican Ephraim Morgan actually won, or if Montgomery had pulled it out. Company guards stood at polling places and there were claims of ballot boxes not even sent in. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-08-2009, 03:05 PM	#3256
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I am SO confused. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-08-2009, 03:10 PM	#3259
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	as fast as people are dying? there have been 2 deaths this month.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:14 PM	#3261
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Your attention please: There were three triggers for the Game Ending event. As of today, all three have occured. Tomorrow, Day Ten, we will begin the final event and the game will change to a strategy game from a WW game. All of your decisions, who is alive, and the camps converted will impact your starting positions. After Night Nine, you will be given the rules to the game changing event. On Monday Morning, we will begin the event, and sometime that day, or the following day at the latest, the game will end with a victor. You are about to compete in the largest civil uprising in American history, and the largest of any kind since the Civil War. By the border between Boone and Logan county, you will fight and die on the slopes of Blair Mountain. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-08-2009, 03:03 PM	#3255
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Damn. Lunch plans changed. Still here.

05-08-2009, 03:09 PM	#3258
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think if we win this game it's going to be by converting camps, though with as fast as people are dying that may be tough.

05-08-2009, 03:11 PM	#3260
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	lol, you're right.

05-08-2009, 03:14 PM	#3262
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	um __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:15 PM	#3263
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	now im even more conffuzzled! maybe this is to offset the fact that I have no idea whats going on __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:15 PM	#3264
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	ABE can you tell us what the events were? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:16 PM	#3265
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Well that's interesting. So the sympathizers don't win and the laborers don't win.

05-08-2009, 03:17 PM	#3266
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Trigger #1 - The successful recruitment of Mother Jones Trigger #2 - The successful recruitment of Sid Hatfield Trigger #3 - When given the "On the Steps of the Courthouse" Event, the Sympathizers chose to kill Sid over the other options. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#3268
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	The train, the assassination of the sheriff...what was the other one? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#3269
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Looks like the sympathizers may have helped us out then.

05-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#3270
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Oh ignore my post, I'm wrong =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#3272
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	so the wolves chose to kill sid...... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:19 PM	#3274
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	__________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:20 PM	#3275
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	We've all been wrong about pretty much everything this game, so it's all good.

05-08-2009, 03:21 PM	#3276
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	i havent been wrong, ive been to confused to guess __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 03:42 PM	#3283
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Not really sure what to expect because Abe's games are always really complex so this should be interesting.

05-08-2009, 03:52 PM	#3284
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm with Jeheinz, I'm mostly on vacation for the next two weeks and would like rules in advance, so I don't need to wake up early on Monday.

05-08-2009, 03:52 PM	#3285
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Err, I'm with Lathum

05-08-2009, 04:15 PM	#3288
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Well since we haven't known what the hell is going on, why change things now?

05-08-2009, 04:26 PM	#3289
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	So let me get this straight. There really is no chance I can lynch Barkeep?

05-08-2009, 05:14 PM	#3290
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Work Hunting

05-08-2009, 05:19 PM	#3291
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	NTN, I think it's too late for that.

05-08-2009, 05:29 PM	#3292
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	vote abe __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-08-2009, 05:42 PM	#3294
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Maybe not then, I guess the game doesn't change until after today.

05-08-2009, 05:56 PM	#3296
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What about running the night deadline early once the orders are in?

05-08-2009, 06:06 PM	#3298
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	One of the first things Gov. Morgan had to do was observe over a shootout between labor and company gun-thugs in the town of Willis Branch, which was almost completely shot up. He decided to firmly ally himself with the company and come down on labor for these issues. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-08-2009, 07:04 PM	#3300
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	With the full weight of the government against them, laws began to be passed to attack striking miners. One bill allowed juries to be pulled from other counties thus allowing a jury from an anti union county to be assembled. Another law was the doubling of the size of the state police force, and yet another allowed the deputization of any persons deemed necessary in these times of conflict. Many people were handed guns, paid some money, deputized, and told to keep the strikers in line. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

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