2012 NFL Offseason thread - Page 7

SirFozzie · 03-07-2012, 02:50 PM

apparently one of the Saints players (unidentified at this time) was caught yelling "Pay me my money!" as Favre was being helped off the field in that 2010 game.

Which is kinda funny, because if the NFL figures out who it was, I fully expect they'll be yelling the same thing at him (as in, hello fine city)

bronconick · 03-07-2012, 02:50 PM

Oh sure. The Lions get crapped on all season for being dirty, get blown up in New Orleans with all sorts of personal foul calls on National TV, forcing me to listen to Cris farking Collinsworth preach about it, and the Saints were the dirty ones all along. Suck it, NFL.

Logan · 03-07-2012, 03:41 PM

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I agree that St. Louis has a strong incentive to pull the trigger on moving #2 pick quickly, but it takes two to tango and as you've already pointed out, as it stands right now, these other teams have options. If Miami or Washington think they can sign Manning or Flynn, why trade a ton of picks to St. Louis before finding that out? The #2 pick isn't a must have for either of those teams until they have lost out on Manning/Flynn. There is just no such urgency.

I can't see the #2 pick being traded until after the free agent dust settles or, at the earliest, until after Manning and Flynn sign. After that happens, teams will know where they stand QB-wise.

Any idea of pre-draft trades that have gotten done so early? Can't remember any taking place before maybe the week preceding the draft.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-07-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Any idea of pre-draft trades that have gotten done so early? Can't remember any taking place before maybe the week preceding the draft.

I can't either. Most seem to happen during the draft or on the day of. I suppose if Luck signs a deal early with the Colts that could start things off earlier than usual, but I think it's very rare for draft picks to start changing hands, even very early picks, so far before the draft.

I mean, what happens if RGIII tears his knee up during his pro day or wrecks his shoulder or something?

Travis · 03-07-2012, 03:49 PM

Sad day as the Seahawks will cut Marcus Trufant. Kind of inevitable given some recent injuries/decline in play while 2 other corners emerged (Browner/Sherman) with a recent draft pick (Thurmond) looking to take a big step forward this year.

But still, sad to see a guy who was a valuable long time member of the team, and local boy, become a cap casualty.

Matthean · 03-09-2012, 12:35 AM

Cleveland Browns GM Tom Heckert confirms trade talks with St. Louis Rams - ESPN

Talk of a Browns/Rams trade but doing the usual non-commitment. Not sure I would use the word "eager" when talking about wanting to see Weeden throw.

M GO BLUE!!! · 03-09-2012, 01:10 AM

Weeden is three years older than Colt McCoy.

He is the same age as Dan Orlovsky & Derek Anderson.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-09-2012, 07:47 AM

Let's see here
-- declare early for draft
-- have a disappointing combine
-- get popped for DUI

Brilliant.

http://redandblack.com/2012/03/09/ge...-early-friday/

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Orson Reuben Charles, a junior tight end on the Georgia football team who declared his intentions to enter the NFL Draft next month, was arrested Friday morning on charges of DUI Alcohol and driving minimum speed.

Charles was arrested by the Athens-Clarke County Police and booked into the ACC Jail at 4:31 a.m., according to the ACC jail booking log.

A John Mackey Award finalist, Charles was named to the All-SEC first-team and was chosen to All-American teams for AFCA (first team) Walter Camp and Phil Steele (second team) and Sports Illustrated (honorable mention).

gstelmack · 03-09-2012, 08:32 AM

Is he the first sports figure to get pulled over for driving TOO SLOW?

Kodos · 03-09-2012, 08:37 AM

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Is he the first sports figure to get pulled over for driving TOO SLOW?

No kidding. I thought the SEC was known for being so fast.

Matthean · 03-09-2012, 11:15 AM

Colts Listening To Trade Offers For Dwight Freeney - SBNation.com

spleen1015 · 03-09-2012, 11:16 AM

He has a huge cap number. I figured they would cut him at some point.

M GO BLUE!!! · 03-09-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Is he the first sports figure to get pulled over for driving TOO SLOW?

At least Suh knows how to get properly pulled over

Detroit Lions' Ndamukong Suh cited for speeding in Oregon - ESPN

Still, he's no Knowshit "Sauced" Morono

Honolulu_Blue · 03-09-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

At least Suh knows how to get properly pulled over

Detroit Lions' Ndamukong Suh cited for speeding in Oregon - ESPN

Still, he's no Knowshit "Sauced" Morono

Suh is a pretty horrible driver. He's always crashing or speeding or doing some zany thing behind the wheel.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2012, 04:02 PM

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Giants to release Brandon Jacobs

Julio Riddols · 03-09-2012, 04:29 PM

Jacobs could have been a hell of a back if he wasn't so damn soft. Watching him is like watching a pussy version of Christian Okoye.

Kodos · 03-09-2012, 04:29 PM

Ping: Lathum!

sabotai · 03-09-2012, 05:10 PM

Gone: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...-by-the-giants

Not surprising. He's supposed to be a big back that goes through the hole and runs over anyone in it. He used to be that way. The last few years, he's tried to bounce everything to the outside (sometimes it worked), and seems a bit gun shy when it comes to lowering his head and bulldozing people. A shame too. If he kept running the way he did a few years ago, he'd still be a very good back.

stevew · 03-09-2012, 05:16 PM

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Ping: Lathum!

Pyser · 03-09-2012, 05:44 PM

colts cut everyone

Grover · 03-09-2012, 06:41 PM

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colts cut everyone

and shopping Freeney!

Lathum · 03-09-2012, 07:20 PM

sigh

not surprising but sad to see him go. He certainly wasn't worth the money he wanted. I hope he gets it somewhere else or decideds to resign for less with us. He was a big part of the best era in Giants football and I'll miss watching him run guys over ( even though he has done that a lot less in recent years).

Also, I hope we don't go and spend any signifigant cap room signing a guy. It seems these days running backs are so easy to find in the draft. I would rather just draft a guy in the 4-6 round.

DeToxRox · 03-09-2012, 10:36 PM

Glazer is reporting the Skins traded 2 1sts and future draft considerations to the Rams for the 2nd pick.

DeToxRox · 03-09-2012, 10:37 PM

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ColtCrazy · 03-09-2012, 10:43 PM

Getting ready to show the deal on ESPN News. Whatever it is, they are going all in for RG3. Shame, I was hoping to see him somewhere other than Washington.

ColtCrazy · 03-09-2012, 10:46 PM

Wow....3 firsts and a second. HUGE DEAL for the Rams.

Lathum · 03-09-2012, 10:47 PM

Ugh, hate the Redskins.

If you are a Browns fan how frustrated are you right now. You have to think the Rams would have rather had 2 first round picks this year then spread them out.

Sweed · 03-09-2012, 10:53 PM

Loving this as a Rams fan. Now hopefully they don't fuck them away the way they did when they traded Eric Dickerson for a bagful of picks many years ago.

Crapshoot · 03-09-2012, 10:59 PM

The Redskins are hilarious.

Scoobz0202 · 03-09-2012, 11:00 PM

Well, Jerry Jones, that defensive is no longer a "should we" but a necessity.

Vick and RG3 twice a year? Get some god damn speed and a better pass rush. And Eli abusing the secondary. NFC East could be interesting.

Grover · 03-09-2012, 11:06 PM

Fantastic.

rowech · 03-09-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

Getting ready to show the deal on ESPN News. Whatever it is, they are going all in for RG3. Shame, I was hoping to see him somewhere other than Washington.

No rookie is worth 3 first round picks. Period.

SirFozzie · 03-09-2012, 11:20 PM

The Jets will announce they have signed Mark Sanchez to an additional three year/40.5 million extension (making it a total of 5/56) . THanks, Jets, from an AFC East rival..

B & B · 03-09-2012, 11:27 PM

Sanchez made like 15m last year.

Hes the most overpaid QB in the league IMO. Its easy to argue for guys who did less making a little bit less like Kolb, but come on.

With INDY dumping their roster and the Skins making an all-in trade , the NFL really is becoming more and more like FOF.

bulletsponge · 03-09-2012, 11:38 PM

if i was a rams fan id be as giddy as a school girl right now. they now have the potential to get a real good large young core of players to add to their young core already.

and this pisses me off as a Vikes fan, i want those picks!

bulletsponge · 03-09-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

With INDY dumping their roster and the Skins making an all-in trade , the NFL really is becoming more and more like FOF.

only if the Skins draft a wr

Grover · 03-09-2012, 11:49 PM

Is Woody Johnson mentally disabled?

3 years / 40.5 million for maybe the most overrated QB in the NFL?

cartman · 03-09-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

only if the Skins draft a wr

with high BPR

Young Drachma · 03-10-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Is Woody Johnson mentally disabled?

3 years / 40.5 million for maybe the most overrated QB in the NFL?

It reminds me of the Donovan McNabb "vote of confidence" deal with the Skins that in reality enabled them to cut him for little to nothing. But then I looked at it and it guarantees Sanchez $20.5m. So I dunno. Maybe they know something we don't, but I can also see it as..."we don't really want to throw away that much money and have Manning spurn us and in the process, damage Sanchez's fragile confidence."

So I guess we'll see what happens.

stevew · 03-10-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Is Woody Johnson mentally disabled?

3 years / 40.5 million for maybe the most overrated QB in the NFL?

I'm sure it was just a maneuver to move a massive hit this year forward. 13m for a starting QB isn't shit.

SirFozzie · 03-10-2012, 12:16 AM

He only had 2/18 remaining.. his cap hit couldn't have been too onerous

stevew · 03-10-2012, 12:17 AM

Need to see new money on that Sanchez deal. He was due 11.75m in salary/roster bonus this year. They could have easily reduced his cap hit by like 8-9 million dollars with this move.(cap out plus additional years to spread it out)

http://nyjetscap.com/salary.html

His cap value was $14,253,125

M GO BLUE!!! · 03-10-2012, 12:21 AM

Hello, Cleveland Browns...

Hiya. Rams calling. Got the Redskins on the line offering me their next three 1st round pics and a #2 this year. Can you do better?

Hello...

Hello...

Cleveland?

Still there?

bhlloy · 03-10-2012, 12:26 AM

Just browsing through active NFL QB's, Sanchez had a superior third year as a starter than Eli and Brees did. It's not his fault he has a blowhard coach who set expectations unrealistically high for him. He had a disappointing year but I'd also say he's probably the QB whose situation I envy the least all things considered.

bulletsponge · 03-10-2012, 12:26 PM

if he wasnt playing in the ridiculous NY media market and had a team that wasnt overrated with blowhards he could develop into a solid starting QB in this league. it was obvious the second he got drafted that he was going to have a hard time and wasnt going to be in NY in 6 years time due to the circumstances around him

Butter · 03-10-2012, 12:42 PM

Redskins with the latest version of the Ricky Williams deal? Or is this worse because it is all First Rounders?

JAG · 03-10-2012, 12:55 PM

I'm not sure how to evaluate the Redskins deal. Yeah, they probably overpaid, but in this case they had a lot of legit competition for the player they wanted. How many superstars have they drafted in the first round the past 10 years, while only making the playoffs once or twice? Of course if this guy blows out a knee or becomes the second coming of Tim Couch they made a huge blunder, but if he's as good as they expect, he could be their best QB in over 30 years. I'm sure the PR / business aspect played into this decision as well. Fan discontent must be very high at the moment and this at least gives them more hope than another free agent spending spree would.

M GO BLUE!!! · 03-10-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

With INDY dumping their roster and the Skins making an all-in trade , the NFL really is becoming more and more like FOF.

It would have been eerily similar if the Colts had paid Manning & drafted Luck, then St. Louis drafted RGIII & let him sit on the bench behind Bradford for the next 12 years, paying both starting salaries & not trading RGIII to me because he is idolized.

molson · 03-10-2012, 01:11 PM

I'm curious, what do people think would be a fair haul for RG3 if they think the Redskins "overpaid"? Trading picks and then just 1 extra first round pick? I would have been shocked if that's all the Rams got, with so many teams in need of a QB.

bhlloy · 03-10-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I'm curious, what do people think would be a fair haul for RG3 if they think the Redskins "overpaid"? Trading picks and then just 1 extra first round pick? I would have been shocked if that's all the Rams got, with so many teams in need of a QB.

Yeah, this. When there's 2 players who are that clearly going to be pick #1 and #2, and there's no real incentive for the team picking #2 to trade unless they get a ridiculous deal in return, and there's a bunch of teams bidding against each other, I'm not really sure what people expected.

I might have tried to hold out on the additional second this year, but three first rounders sounds about right to me.

03-07-2012, 02:50 PM	#301
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	apparently one of the Saints players (unidentified at this time) was caught yelling "Pay me my money!" as Favre was being helped off the field in that 2010 game. Which is kinda funny, because if the NFL figures out who it was, I fully expect they'll be yelling the same thing at him (as in, hello fine city) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-07-2012, 03:49 PM	#305
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Sad day as the Seahawks will cut Marcus Trufant. Kind of inevitable given some recent injuries/decline in play while 2 other corners emerged (Browner/Sherman) with a recent draft pick (Thurmond) looking to take a big step forward this year. But still, sad to see a guy who was a valuable long time member of the team, and local boy, become a cap casualty. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

03-09-2012, 12:35 AM	#306
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Cleveland Browns GM Tom Heckert confirms trade talks with St. Louis Rams - ESPN Talk of a Browns/Rams trade but doing the usual non-commitment. Not sure I would use the word "eager" when talking about wanting to see Weeden throw. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

03-09-2012, 08:32 AM	#309
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Is he the first sports figure to get pulled over for driving TOO SLOW? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-09-2012, 11:15 AM	#311
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Colts Listening To Trade Offers For Dwight Freeney - SBNation.com __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

03-07-2012, 02:50 PM	#302
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Oh sure. The Lions get crapped on all season for being dirty, get blown up in New Orleans with all sorts of personal foul calls on National TV, forcing me to listen to Cris farking Collinsworth preach about it, and the Saints were the dirty ones all along. Suck it, NFL.

03-09-2012, 01:10 AM	#307
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Weeden is three years older than Colt McCoy. He is the same age as Dan Orlovsky & Derek Anderson.

03-09-2012, 11:16 AM	#312
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	He has a huge cap number. I figured they would cut him at some point.

03-09-2012, 04:02 PM	#315
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	ProFootballTalk ‏ @ProFootballTalk Giants to release Brandon Jacobs __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-09-2012, 04:29 PM	#316
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Jacobs could have been a hell of a back if he wasn't so damn soft. Watching him is like watching a pussy version of Christian Okoye. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA Last edited by Julio Riddols : 03-09-2012 at 04:29 PM.

03-09-2012, 04:29 PM	#317
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Ping: Lathum! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 03-09-2012 at 04:29 PM.

03-09-2012, 05:10 PM	#318
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Gone: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...-by-the-giants Not surprising. He's supposed to be a big back that goes through the hole and runs over anyone in it. He used to be that way. The last few years, he's tried to bounce everything to the outside (sometimes it worked), and seems a bit gun shy when it comes to lowering his head and bulldozing people. A shame too. If he kept running the way he did a few years ago, he'd still be a very good back.

03-09-2012, 05:44 PM	#320
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	colts cut everyone

03-09-2012, 07:20 PM	#322
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	sigh not surprising but sad to see him go. He certainly wasn't worth the money he wanted. I hope he gets it somewhere else or decideds to resign for less with us. He was a big part of the best era in Giants football and I'll miss watching him run guys over ( even though he has done that a lot less in recent years). Also, I hope we don't go and spend any signifigant cap room signing a guy. It seems these days running backs are so easy to find in the draft. I would rather just draft a guy in the 4-6 round.

03-09-2012, 10:36 PM	#323
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Glazer is reporting the Skins traded 2 1sts and future draft considerations to the Rams for the 2nd pick.

03-09-2012, 10:37 PM	#324
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Washington Redskins traded three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick to St. Louis for second overall...

03-09-2012, 10:43 PM	#325
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Getting ready to show the deal on ESPN News. Whatever it is, they are going all in for RG3. Shame, I was hoping to see him somewhere other than Washington. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

03-09-2012, 10:46 PM	#326
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Wow....3 firsts and a second. HUGE DEAL for the Rams. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

03-09-2012, 10:47 PM	#327
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Ugh, hate the Redskins. If you are a Browns fan how frustrated are you right now. You have to think the Rams would have rather had 2 first round picks this year then spread them out.

03-09-2012, 10:53 PM	#328
Sweed College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	Loving this as a Rams fan. Now hopefully they don't fuck them away the way they did when they traded Eric Dickerson for a bagful of picks many years ago.

03-09-2012, 10:59 PM	#329
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	The Redskins are hilarious.

03-09-2012, 11:00 PM	#330
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Well, Jerry Jones, that defensive is no longer a "should we" but a necessity. Vick and RG3 twice a year? Get some god damn speed and a better pass rush. And Eli abusing the secondary. NFC East could be interesting.

03-09-2012, 11:06 PM	#331
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Fantastic. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

03-09-2012, 11:20 PM	#333
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The Jets will announce they have signed Mark Sanchez to an additional three year/40.5 million extension (making it a total of 5/56) . THanks, Jets, from an AFC East rival.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 03-09-2012 at 11:21 PM.

03-09-2012, 11:27 PM	#334
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	Sanchez made like 15m last year. Hes the most overpaid QB in the league IMO. Its easy to argue for guys who did less making a little bit less like Kolb, but come on. With INDY dumping their roster and the Skins making an all-in trade , the NFL really is becoming more and more like FOF. __________________ Nobody cares about Kyle Orton because he's black. -PT

03-09-2012, 11:38 PM	#335
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	if i was a rams fan id be as giddy as a school girl right now. they now have the potential to get a real good large young core of players to add to their young core already. and this pisses me off as a Vikes fan, i want those picks!

03-09-2012, 11:49 PM	#337
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Is Woody Johnson mentally disabled? 3 years / 40.5 million for maybe the most overrated QB in the NFL? __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

03-10-2012, 12:16 AM	#341
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	He only had 2/18 remaining.. his cap hit couldn't have been too onerous __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-10-2012, 12:17 AM	#342
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Need to see new money on that Sanchez deal. He was due 11.75m in salary/roster bonus this year. They could have easily reduced his cap hit by like 8-9 million dollars with this move.(cap out plus additional years to spread it out) http://nyjetscap.com/salary.html His cap value was $14,253,125 Last edited by stevew : 03-10-2012 at 12:20 AM.

03-10-2012, 12:21 AM	#343
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Hello, Cleveland Browns... Hiya. Rams calling. Got the Redskins on the line offering me their next three 1st round pics and a #2 this year. Can you do better? Hello... Hello... Cleveland? Still there?

03-10-2012, 12:26 AM	#344
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Just browsing through active NFL QB's, Sanchez had a superior third year as a starter than Eli and Brees did. It's not his fault he has a blowhard coach who set expectations unrealistically high for him. He had a disappointing year but I'd also say he's probably the QB whose situation I envy the least all things considered.

03-10-2012, 12:26 PM	#345
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	if he wasnt playing in the ridiculous NY media market and had a team that wasnt overrated with blowhards he could develop into a solid starting QB in this league. it was obvious the second he got drafted that he was going to have a hard time and wasnt going to be in NY in 6 years time due to the circumstances around him

03-10-2012, 12:42 PM	#346
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Redskins with the latest version of the Ricky Williams deal? Or is this worse because it is all First Rounders? __________________ My listening habits

03-10-2012, 12:55 PM	#347
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I'm not sure how to evaluate the Redskins deal. Yeah, they probably overpaid, but in this case they had a lot of legit competition for the player they wanted. How many superstars have they drafted in the first round the past 10 years, while only making the playoffs once or twice? Of course if this guy blows out a knee or becomes the second coming of Tim Couch they made a huge blunder, but if he's as good as they expect, he could be their best QB in over 30 years. I'm sure the PR / business aspect played into this decision as well. Fan discontent must be very high at the moment and this at least gives them more hope than another free agent spending spree would.

03-10-2012, 01:11 PM	#349
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm curious, what do people think would be a fair haul for RG3 if they think the Redskins "overpaid"? Trading picks and then just 1 extra first round pick? I would have been shocked if that's all the Rams got, with so many teams in need of a QB. Last edited by molson : 03-10-2012 at 01:11 PM.