Unofficial Official 2012-13 College Basketball Thread

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

UCLA's gonna be in China for 10 days in August.

Hopefully it goes better for them than it did for Georgetown.

[Wolfpack]

NC State's heading for Spain. Will be good to see whether the hype is warranted. When scribes are saying that a 20-24 win season may be considered a disappointment, that's a pretty doggone big jump from the old middle-of-the-road, scraping-into-the-NCAAs expectations we used to have foisted on us.

[muns]

ACC basketball will get even more fun. Looking forward to this move

Pittsburgh Panthers to pay $7.5 million to leave Big East in July 2013 - ESPN

[tarcone]

Pitt may be headed to the B1G if the B1G kicks PsU out.

[molson]

It's kind of sad to see Syracuse leave the Big East a year early. I think my college basketball interest is going to go down a ton without them in the big east. It's just how I grew up, those teams, that tournament. And in college, there were so many fun weekend trips to big east road games, in a lot of cities where we all had friends in college.

[Logan]

I went to the Big East tournament this year and got legitimately upset that one of my favorite events in sports is just going to completely change.

[sovereignstar v2]

Tubby Smith extended at Minnesota. Yippee ki yay kill me now. He hasn't had to try since he was at Georgia. What a posh life.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Awful early, but the excitement can only grow after seeing that ESPN is picking Mizzou to win the SEC. Really unbelievable to see how the talent level has grown so quickly under Haith.

Ranking the 2012-13 SEC teams from best to worst - NCB - ESPN

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Neil Reed passes away at age 36.......

Indiana Hoosier Neil Reed, figure in Bobby Knight's firing, dies at 36 - ESPN

[Kodos]

That's a shame. Way too young to die.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Iona recruit is killed breaking up a fight in Chicago.......

Iona basketball recruit killed in shooting outside his Chicago house trying to break up a fight | Prep Rally - Yahoo! Sports

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Excited to finally see the new Mizzou court. Picture is from Frank Haith's twitter account. New conference logos and the center logo has been changed to the tiger head logo.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Interesting read on recruiting......

NCAA Central Florida AAU sanctions Penn State death penalty – USATODAY.com

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

dola

Really excited about the Atlantis event now that the bracket is out. Unbelievable amount of talent in this tourney.

Battle 4 Atlantis projects as college basketball's best early season event - CBSSports.com

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

dola

Really excited about the Atlantis event now that the bracket is out. Unbelievable amount of talent in this tourney.

Battle 4 Atlantis projects as college basketball's best early season event - CBSSports.com

That looks like a great opportunity for a family trip.

No way your wife turns down a trip to the Bahamas and you get to essentially see a "Round of 32"-like slate of basketball in one day.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

That looks like a great opportunity for a family trip.

No way your wife turns down a trip to the Bahamas and you get to essentially see a "Round of 32"-like slate of basketball in one day.

I'm campaigning in that regard. Been watching for deals as the date gets closer. Hoping ticket sales are slow and they offer some packages.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

SEC conference schedule is out. 18 game schedule.

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEW...-schedule.aspx

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Some filthy stuff from Keion Bell over in Europe today. Still can't believe Pepperdine let this kid get away.

[mauchow]

House Creaning continues for Indiana:

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...yssey=nav|head

Roth still waiting four days before semester | The Hoosier Scoop

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

House Creaning continues for Indiana:

http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...yssey=nav|head

Roth still waiting four days before semester | The Hoosier Scoop

Fuck off.

Spin it anyway you want.

Matt Roth spent 4 years at IU and graduated. He had his senior night last year, played a important role on the team, and was never promised a 5th year. Sure, I question about what happens with Matt Roth is news, but not the way you are spinning it.

Ron Patterson, while he is eligible to play in the NCAA this year, did not meet the academic standards needed for admission at IU. Coach Crean and most of the fanbase really wanted Buss to be apart of the team this year.

You sound like a jealous Purdue fan. I wonder how many IU fans post stuff on Wisconsin?

[tarcone]

Worse crybaby fans? Indiana or Wisconsin?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

Fuck off.

Spin it anyway you want.

Matt Roth spent 4 years at IU and graduated. He had his senior night last year, played a important role on the team, and was never promised a 5th year. Sure, I question about what happens with Matt Roth is news, but not the way you are spinning it.

Ron Patterson, while he is eligible to play in the NCAA this year, did not meet the academic standards needed for admission at IU. Coach Crean and most of the fanbase really wanted Buss to be apart of the team this year.

You sound like a jealous Purdue fan. I wonder how many IU fans post stuff on Wisconsin?

Patterson has been on campus for how long now? He got accepted into Indiana coming out of high school and now all of a sudden he doesn't qualify...just a few days away from when Indiana needed to get to 13 scholarships? Convenient.

"Patterson’s former AAU coach, Chris Hawkins, said the 6-3 guard had cleared all of the academic hurdles to enroll at Indiana, but did not meet all of the academic standards in summer school." He took summer classes AT Indiana.... how does this make any sense to say this is anything but Crean House Creaning?

[mauchow]

Uthoff wants to transfer out - Bo Ryan plays within the rules and says you can't go here here and here and the media goes NUTS! Crean tells a guy he magically didn't meet academic standards (again..where he's ALREADY TAKING CLASSES!) three days before the program needs to get down to 13 scholarships and the media doesn't write one iota about it beyond local newspapers?

Patterson was the low man on the totem pole and Crean disgustingly 'cut' a guy who had been committed to Indiana since 2010 and was already taking classes. His try out obviously didn't go well.

I really hope Patterson finds a school to get into THIS year, one that has higher academic qualifications than Indiana so then this will further prove that Crean is indeed a grade-a sleazeball. (he was at Marquette, too)

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Patterson has been on campus for how long now? He got accepted into Indiana coming out of high school and now all of a sudden he doesn't qualify...just a few days away from when Indiana needed to get to 13 scholarships? Convenient.

"Patterson’s former AAU coach, Chris Hawkins, said the 6-3 guard had cleared all of the academic hurdles to enroll at Indiana, but did not meet all of the academic standards in summer school." He took summer classes AT Indiana.... how does this make any sense to say this is anything but Crean House Creaning?

Pretty simple. He came in with the understanding that he needed to post a 2.0 or better to qualify. He got a 1.8 GPA for 6 credit hours this summer. Hard to see him doing better with more classes in the fall and more time devoted to basketball. Also, the decision to deny him was made by a committee, not Tom Crean.

As for Roth, he has two degrees on IU's dime now. I don't see how he was deprived of anything.

That being said, I'm not crazy about Crean's use of the oversign in general.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Pretty simple. He came in with the understanding that he needed to post a 2.0 or better to qualify. He got a 1.8 GPA for 6 credit hours this summer. Hard to see him doing better with more classes in the fall and more time devoted to basketball. Also, the decision to deny him was made by a committee, not Tom Crean.

And this is public? His grades?

When has grades ever been grounds for a kid to be cut entirely from the school? He would have an opportunity during the semester to get his grades back up and at worse Indiana would have had a great opportunity to give him a red shirt season.. but no he was cut. Plain and simple. The scholarship limit had to be at 13 by MONDAY. FOUR DAYS prior to that day Crean finds the out he was looking for so he wasn't in hot water.

I had a 1.0 my first semester; I didn't get kicked off my team nor did the university say "sorry, you no longer qualify at this university, good bye".

[spleen1015]

Patterson or not, Wisconsin can't beat IU this year mauboy. Sorry man.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Patterson or not, Wisconsin can't beat IU this year mauboy. Sorry man.

Badgers and Indiana àre better than last year. It will be a good game.

[Kodos]

Error - Hoosier Sports Nation

New info. Apparently, he was caught cheating, in addition to the grades problem.

[mauchow]

Cheating had nothing to do wit anything, per that article. WAY TOO CONVENIENT is still my stance. It's recruiting related. He's been guilty of this crap before.

[Kodos]

Crean will have to work to be as upstanding a coach as Bo. Just ask Jarrod Utoff.

I guess Bo is busy recruiting one of IU's recruits as well-Luke Fischer. Stay classy, Bo! And good luck trying to pry him away.

[tarcone]

Hey! Bo is a stand up guy. In fact, there is no coach in the world as stand up-ish as Bo is.
You leave Bo alone, you mean Hoosier fan,, you.

[Kodos]

It seems we have a nice Big Ten contingent here at FOFC.

[Atocep]

As sensitive as you guys are it's a shame Missouri didn't get into the Big 10.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Crean will have to work to be as upstanding a coach as Bo. Just ask Jarrod Utoff.

I guess Bo is busy recruiting one of IU's recruits as well-Luke Fischer. Stay classy, Bo! And good luck trying to pry him away.

Uthoff was the issue, and the Badgers passed on Fischer and the rumor they're in contact is false from what I hear

[Kodos]

Not according to Luke Fischer. I think I'll take his word for it.

I guess when ol' Bo toots, it smells like roses!

[mauchow]

If that is the case there is nothing wrong with feelers especially since crean is oversigned for Luke's class. Nothing wrong with saying careful about where you're going. Luke plays with one commit for Wisconsin so I'm sure it comes up occasionally. I personally believe Fischer would have been a good get for us considering we are losing a lot of height after this season.

His aau coach said no contact has been made but if it came from Luke's mouth then there ya go..Bo is a sneaky devil(or not so sneaky).

[cartman]

ESPN came out with their list of 50 most successful programs over the past 50 years.

Conference breakdowns for 50 in 50 rankings - ESPN

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by cartman

ESPN came out with their list of 50 most successful programs over the past 50 years.

Conference breakdowns for 50 in 50 rankings - ESPN

We win!

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by britrock88

We win!

I wonder if ESPN is going to take this ranking away once it is proven that the entire university is built on a culture of cheating?!

[britrock88]

I think if we took a good look at the rigors of the coursework that football and men's basketball players handle at top universities nationwide, we'd find something akin to doping in cycling.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by britrock88

We win!

We lost because of infractions. I have a feeling this might change in 6 months

[Wolfpack]

I understand it's supposed to be an "objective" measure of programs, but it's still unbalanced in a few ways: all conferences and their championships are treated equally (hence Penn and Princeton get high marks because they've dominated the Ivy League for decades), the at-large bid helps out many programs who were good-but-not-great in the past 30 years when they wouldn't have made the field before at-larges were allowed in, and it's also using subjective choices based on which players became All-Americans.

Yes, all of this is a semi-roundabout way of saying while NC State is no longer a top 15 or 20 program nationally like they were before 1990, they're not #43 and certainly not worse than Weber State.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

We lost because of infractions. I have a feeling this might change in 6 months

Without having looked past finding UNC's ranking in that stuff, I do understand that it's strange UCLA wouldn't be #1 and will happily cede the rank back to you if (pretty please?) or when the time comes.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Devin Booker (Devin Booker (DevinBook) on Twitter) just confirmed he'll be in Columbia on September 8th for the Georgia game on an official visit.

If that name looks familiar, he's the son of former Mizzou guard Melvin Booker. Would love to see that kid in a Mizzou uniform.

[tarcone]

On the rankings. Iowa is better then 62. Not the past 5 or 6 years. But the last 50, I imagine we would be a little higher then 62.

And I hadnt heard that Bo was tampering again. Oh wait, Bo doesnt do that. He is the most stand up coach in America. He doesnt know what tampering is, because he doesnt do it. Just ask him. Or any wisky fan.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Might be the end of Billy Gillespie........

http://m.lubbockonline.com/filed-onl...alized-lubbock

[MrBug708]

UCLA's three top recruits of 2012 are currently under investigation for improper benefits during their recruitment. UCLA is not under investigation however

[tarcone]

SIs Breakout Sophomore Top 5

Iowas Aaron White is #4.

I cannot wait untilt he basketball season.

Treveon Graham, Andre Hollins to make impact in sophomore season - Luke Winn - SI.com

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

NCAA considers opening back up the Final Four bidding to arenas........

NCAA has discussed Final Four move from domes to arenas - ESPN

[cartman]

This is an interesting story. Will be interesting to see where this investigation goes.

Will lawsuit set off a Duke firestorm with the NCAA? -- men's college basketball - ESPN