How to (successfully) hit on a coworker. - Page 7

NobodyHere · 09-03-2022, 05:29 PM

Some minor news in my weekly walk. The Trumper and Mary both showed up and there were no problems. 10 people showed up (which is a record!) so there were plenty of people to mingle with.

The Trumper has a dinner scheduled for the evening (I didn't sign up for it) and didn't make a reservation even though 8 people signed up for it so we'll see if he did so.

There's a new woman that showed to the last couple walks. She seems to have similar interests to me. She also mentioned that she wants a workout partner and I think I'll volunteer.

Sarah was also there with her daughters but she cut halfway through the walk (I scheduled the walk this way because in the past I've had elderly people who couldn't walk a 5k). She messaged me that she got tired but honestly I don't know if I believe it.

Flasch186 · 09-03-2022, 05:45 PM

Very common for the snowflakes to actually melt when pressed

Congrats

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NobodyHere · 09-03-2022, 06:01 PM

Honestly I think you people are being too harsh on the particular Trumper in this group.

But honestly I was slightly worried there would be a scene but there was none.

Flasch186 · 09-03-2022, 06:48 PM

Because of your second sentence is why the feelings exists

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NobodyHere · 09-03-2022, 06:59 PM

I guess that's fair (which is a common phrase said by Barbara)

Edward64 · 09-04-2022, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I guess that's fair (which is a common phrase said by Barbara)

Good sign. Shows she takes time to weight the pluses & minuses, pros & cons, and comes to a decision. Doesn't jump to conclusions.

Lathum · 09-04-2022, 08:42 AM

Can you just update the thread title when someone has some sex?

Flasch186 · 09-04-2022, 10:05 AM

I think only flere can do that

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flere-imsaho · 09-04-2022, 01:45 PM

If only I had such power.

NobodyHere · 09-04-2022, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Can you just update the thread title when someone has some sex?

My mouth had sex with a Philly cheese-steak the other day. Should I go into more detail?

NobodyHere · 09-04-2022, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

If only I had such power.

I'd settle for some more NFL WIPs

NobodyHere · 09-10-2022, 07:55 PM

Note to self:

When organizing an event on meetup, people will always follow gps directions to the wrong locations rather than look at the map you posted (with meeting location) on the event website.

On the positive side I did ask Sarah to go kayaking with just me and she agreed (and gave me her number).

Edward64 · 09-10-2022, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

On the positive side I did ask Sarah to go kayaking with just me and she agreed (and gave me her number).

Flasch186 · 09-10-2022, 08:43 PM

Winning

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NobodyHere · 09-17-2022, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

So she went kayaking with me. We really connected quite well. I also learned that I underestimated her age by a least a decade. Otherwise on a dating checklist she checked pretty much all the boxes I want in a woman.

If I don't date her I definitely want her as a close friend.

NobodyHere · 09-17-2022, 08:31 PM

Well I got a text from Sarah saying she doesn't want to go kayaking with me next week.

I am dejected right now.

Flasch186 · 09-17-2022, 08:36 PM

Doesn't want to? Are you reading into that or did she literally say those words?

NobodyHere · 09-17-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Doesn't want to? Are you reading into that or did she literally say those words?

I offered to go Tuesday or Wednesday depending on the weather (There are some scattered rains in the area and the rest of the week cools down).

To quote her text "Thank you Nobodyhere but you go ahead"

Edward64 · 09-17-2022, 09:03 PM

Yeah, I think that's it for Sarah.

But hey, you've now got some good experience for the next one

NobodyHere · 09-17-2022, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Yeah, I think that's it for Sarah.

But hey, you've now got some good experience for the next one

Well I'm not giving up quite yet. Unlike my coworkers I'm willing to push things more.

This part is to add some excess drama. But I spotted her talking to another man on my walk today and they exchanged phone numbers!*

*My walks are for people to socialize with others but still I am quite jealous that this other guy monopolized her time and I didn't get a good chance to socialize with her.

tarcone · 09-17-2022, 09:29 PM

Women just do not get what a total disaster it is for men to stick their necks out only to get their heads cut off. I wish women would understand how that rejection feels.

Equality= BS

Mota · 09-17-2022, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well I'm not giving up quite yet. Unlike my coworkers I'm willing to push things more.

This part is to add some excess drama. But I spotted her talking to another man on my walk today and they exchanged phone numbers!*

*My walks are for people to socialize with others but still I am quite jealous that this other guy monopolized her time and I didn't get a good chance to socialize with her.

NEXT! Definitely move on. Your best bet here is that she likes the drama and would string you along. At best. At worst, she's just not interested. Either way, not someone you want to be involved with.

Edward64 · 09-17-2022, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mota

NEXT! Definitely move on. Your best bet here is that she likes the drama and would string you along. At best. At worst, she's just not interested. Either way, not someone you want to be involved with.

NobodyHere · 09-18-2022, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

So is there anyone from your Asian ring available?

Lathum · 09-18-2022, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Women just do not get what a total disaster it is for men to stick their necks out only to get their heads cut off. I wish women would understand how that rejection feels.

Equality= BS

Rejection sucks, but I have never felt the need to go for a run without listening to music, been afraid to walk to my car alone in a parking garage, someone following me to my room in a hotel, having my drink spiked...

Like I said, rejection sucks, but women have it FAR worse then men do.

Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 09:46 AM

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So is there anyone from your Asian ring available?

Take a 4 week trip to Asia (pick any country) and get yourself on the local scene and on the local Match, Tinder etc.

I'm sure you'll get interest from a lot of "professionals" but you'll get a fair share of regular women too. Go in with your eyes wide open, your main appeal (for vast majority of non-pro women responding to you) is your ability to support her (and her extended family) and US citizenship. It'll start there and up to you to progress from there.

(And definitely don't start off with dominatrix roleplay. I'm pretty sure you'll scare off regular women)

FWIW, I had a colleague back in the 90's that got a Russian mail-order bride. He was divorced and wanted someone non-US. She had kids and he became an instant dad. I don't know the situation now but he was happily married for at least a couple years when I knew him. Maybe check out mail-order brides?

Lathum · 09-18-2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Take a 4 week trip to Asia (pick any country) and get yourself on the local scene and on the local Match, Tinder etc.

I'm sure you'll get interest from a lot of "professionals" but you'll get a fair share of regular women too. Go in with your eyes wide open, your main appeal (for vast majority of non-pro women responding to you) is your ability to support her (and her extended family) and US citizenship. It'll start there and up to you to progress from there.

(And definitely don't start off with dominatrix roleplay. I'm pretty sure you'll scare off regular women)

FWIW, I had a colleague back in the 90's that got a Russian mail-order bride. He was divorced and wanted someone non-US. She had kids and he became an instant dad. I don't know the situation now but he was happily married for at least a couple years when I knew him. Maybe check out mail-order brides?

This is the strangest dating advice I have ever seen

Flasch186 · 09-18-2022, 11:20 AM

agreed

sovereignstar v2 · 09-18-2022, 01:01 PM

Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

This is the strangest dating advice I have ever seen

Options, he needs options.

Izulde · 09-18-2022, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Options, he needs options.

These aren't really options, though. They're pay-to-play with a greater time and resource commitment that ends approximately the same as going the pro route. He'll rack up a marriage, a kid or two with that valuable American citizenship, and a divorce after which she heads back to the homeland.

It's a movie I've seen play out multiple times

Solecismic · 09-18-2022, 03:56 PM

Women are not aliens, property or commodities. Dating works just fine if you can think of each one as an individual with her own motivations and needs.

So, Sarah didn't work out. That's fine. Be happy for her if she makes a connection on your walk.

Men have it far easier. All we have to do is learn to read and not be assholes when we don't get our way.

Qwikshot · 09-18-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Take a 4 week trip to Asia (pick any country) and get yourself on the local scene and on the local Match, Tinder etc.

I'm sure you'll get interest from a lot of "professionals" but you'll get a fair share of regular women too. Go in with your eyes wide open, your main appeal (for vast majority of non-pro women responding to you) is your ability to support her (and her extended family) and US citizenship. It'll start there and up to you to progress from there.

(And definitely don't start off with dominatrix roleplay. I'm pretty sure you'll scare off regular women)

FWIW, I had a colleague back in the 90's that got a Russian mail-order bride. He was divorced and wanted someone non-US. She had kids and he became an instant dad. I don't know the situation now but he was happily married for at least a couple years when I knew him. Maybe check out mail-order brides?

Good Christ, NO!

NobodyHere · 09-18-2022, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Men have it far easier. All we have to do is learn to read and not be assholes when we don't get our way.

It's not easier when you're 5'3. Most women have written you off already.

Solecismic · 09-18-2022, 04:40 PM

They won't overlook you if you read them right.

Too often, what I see is men making a decision as to what they want, and then going in and trying to make it happen and becoming indignant when they feel their wants are reasonable and it doesn't work.

Dating is about finding out if your needs and her needs are compatible.

The height issue is a real one. Women want to feel protected, and that visual seems to be how this works. Very tall women have the same problem. They're often OK with the height issue, but many men can't handle it, either.

Your potential pool is smaller, literally. But there are more women looking for relationships than men. The numbers work out, you just have to put yourself out there. The downside for many of us is that we feel the same way about "a few extra pounds" on women, which these days often stretches the word "few" a few more sizes. Maybe we can't get over that.

Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

These aren't really options, though. They're pay-to-play with a greater time and resource commitment that ends approximately the same as going the pro route. He'll rack up a marriage, a kid or two with that valuable American citizenship, and a divorce after which she heads back to the homeland.

It's a movie I've seen play out multiple times

They are definitely are options.

They may also be "pay-to-play" but I don't really know your definition. I assume you mean that Nobody has to pay significant amount of $ throughout the courtship? If this correct, regular dating in the US is "pay-to-play".

Your last sentence assumes the vast majority of these marriages are a "sham", that all she'll want is the green card and then say "see ya" in 2-5 (?) years. There is no doubt US green card (or any western country) is a compelling differentiator but I'd dispute the vast majority (or even majority) is a sham.

I looked and was not able to find any stats (e.g. how many US-Foreign marriages result in divorce after X years would probably give a high-water indicator). If you have those stats, share them. I will say that I've known 2 Filipino born nurses married to US citizens, immigrated and they are still happily married.

Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

It's not easier when you're 5'3. Most women have written you off already.

I disagree to "most women". It's definitely a factor but there are other factors.

So instead of focusing on height, which you can't control, what are other things that will make you more attractive to a woman? Go through an internal SWOT analysis - strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats. (Well, maybe not so much threats). Figure it out and come up with a 6-12 month plan.

Let's put it this way. If you have bad hygiene, really overweight, can't hold a conversation etc. your pool will also be smaller in Asia (e.g. it won't be because of height).

Lathum · 09-18-2022, 06:45 PM

Height is absolutely a deal breaker for most women.

I did find this interesting chart

400 Bad Request

Ksyrup · 09-18-2022, 06:57 PM

I saw this tweet and thought of this thread...

WHO EVEN NEEDS A SIGNIFICANT OTHER WHEN YOU HAVE CFB TO DESTROY YOUR MENTAL HEALTH
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Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Height is absolutely a deal breaker for most women.

I did find this interesting chart

400 Bad Request

Interesting chart. I was looking at Females on the 5'3" row for 1988-94.

20-29 years - 34.3% of women are 5'3" or shorter
70-79 years - 61.2% of women are 5'3" or shorter

Am I reading this right? Does this indicate shorter women die earlier than taller women?

Lathum · 09-18-2022, 07:12 PM

hmm, I dunno. But I did learn I am taller than 98% of my peers.

Edward64 · 09-18-2022, 07:31 PM

Made me look at average heights around the world. More evidence that Nobody should expand search criteria to overseas and/or Asians.

Average height for women worldwide

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Here are some worldwide trends in height for women aged 18–40 from the website World Data:

The average height of European women is 5 feet 6 inches.

In many parts of Asia, including China, the average woman’s height is about 5 feet.

The average height for women in North America is slightly below the average for women in the U.S. Average heights for women in the U.S. and Canada are the same, while the same average in Mexico is just below 5 feet 2 inches.

According to the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation), the shortest average heights for women are recorded in South Asia and Guatemala, at under 5 feet.

Lathum · 09-18-2022, 07:43 PM

Maybe someone should start a dating app for short dudes?

Kodos · 09-18-2022, 08:13 PM

I’m tall enough. 5’10”.

Fidatelo · 09-19-2022, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Interesting chart. I was looking at Females on the 5'3" row for 1988-94.

20-29 years - 34.3% of women are 5'3" or shorter
70-79 years - 61.2% of women are 5'3" or shorter

Am I reading this right? Does this indicate shorter women die earlier than taller women?

I think this indicates that the average height of humans continues to increase with better nutrition in our early years. It also indicates that people shrink as they get older. My Dad was over 6'1" when I was growing up, and at 77 is now under 6'.

Edward64 · 09-19-2022, 11:23 AM

Yes, I noticed the first. Not surprising, when I go into museums I think ... people used to fit in that?

Didn't think about shrinking when you get older, good point. I guess for women there is osteoporosis.

PilotMan · 09-19-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

hmm, I dunno. But I did learn I am taller than 98% of my peers.

Wassup shorty?!

NobodyHere · 09-19-2022, 03:49 PM

Well on a positive note today I learned that Barbara is going to be moving into an apartment just about a mile down the road from me.

Lathum · 09-19-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Wassup shorty?!

Sasquatch

Solecismic · 09-19-2022, 04:46 PM

On the positive side, little people are about the only ones who can travel comfortably on a commercial airliner these days.

I think, after a year of trying, it's best not to assume Barbara's move is germane to your original topic pursuit.

OK, I just youtubed Randy Newman's one-hit wonder (only top 40 single, though he has had a long and successful career).

09-03-2022, 05:29 PM	#301
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Some minor news in my weekly walk. The Trumper and Mary both showed up and there were no problems. 10 people showed up (which is a record!) so there were plenty of people to mingle with. The Trumper has a dinner scheduled for the evening (I didn't sign up for it) and didn't make a reservation even though 8 people signed up for it so we'll see if he did so. There's a new woman that showed to the last couple walks. She seems to have similar interests to me. She also mentioned that she wants a workout partner and I think I'll volunteer. Sarah was also there with her daughters but she cut halfway through the walk (I scheduled the walk this way because in the past I've had elderly people who couldn't walk a 5k). She messaged me that she got tired but honestly I don't know if I believe it. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

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Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Very common for the snowflakes to actually melt when pressed Congrats Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-03-2022, 06:01 PM	#303
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Honestly I think you people are being too harsh on the particular Trumper in this group. But honestly I was slightly worried there would be a scene but there was none. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-03-2022, 06:48 PM	#304
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	How to (successfully) hit on a coworker. Because of your second sentence is why the feelings exists Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 09-03-2022 at 06:49 PM.

09-03-2022, 06:59 PM	#305
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I guess that's fair (which is a common phrase said by Barbara) __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-04-2022, 08:42 AM	#307
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Can you just update the thread title when someone has some sex?

09-04-2022, 10:05 AM	#308
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I think only flere can do that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-04-2022, 01:45 PM	#309
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	If only I had such power.

09-10-2022, 07:55 PM	#312
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Note to self: When organizing an event on meetup, people will always follow gps directions to the wrong locations rather than look at the map you posted (with meeting location) on the event website. On the positive side I did ask Sarah to go kayaking with just me and she agreed (and gave me her number). __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-10-2022, 08:43 PM	#314
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Winning Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-17-2022, 08:31 PM	#316
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Well I got a text from Sarah saying she doesn't want to go kayaking with me next week. I am dejected right now. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-17-2022, 08:36 PM	#317
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Doesn't want to? Are you reading into that or did she literally say those words? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-17-2022, 09:03 PM	#319
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Yeah, I think that's it for Sarah. But hey, you've now got some good experience for the next one

09-17-2022, 09:29 PM	#321
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Women just do not get what a total disaster it is for men to stick their necks out only to get their heads cut off. I wish women would understand how that rejection feels. Equality= BS __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-18-2022, 11:20 AM	#328
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	agreed __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-18-2022, 01:01 PM	#329
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09-18-2022, 03:56 PM	#332
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Women are not aliens, property or commodities. Dating works just fine if you can think of each one as an individual with her own motivations and needs. So, Sarah didn't work out. That's fine. Be happy for her if she makes a connection on your walk. Men have it far easier. All we have to do is learn to read and not be assholes when we don't get our way.

09-18-2022, 04:40 PM	#335
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	They won't overlook you if you read them right. Too often, what I see is men making a decision as to what they want, and then going in and trying to make it happen and becoming indignant when they feel their wants are reasonable and it doesn't work. Dating is about finding out if your needs and her needs are compatible. The height issue is a real one. Women want to feel protected, and that visual seems to be how this works. Very tall women have the same problem. They're often OK with the height issue, but many men can't handle it, either. Your potential pool is smaller, literally. But there are more women looking for relationships than men. The numbers work out, you just have to put yourself out there. The downside for many of us is that we feel the same way about "a few extra pounds" on women, which these days often stretches the word "few" a few more sizes. Maybe we can't get over that.

09-18-2022, 06:45 PM	#338
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Height is absolutely a deal breaker for most women. I did find this interesting chart 400 Bad Request

09-18-2022, 06:57 PM	#339
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I saw this tweet and thought of this thread... WHO EVEN NEEDS A SIGNIFICANT OTHER WHEN YOU HAVE CFB TO DESTROY YOUR MENTAL HEALTH — T Stoy (@stoy_taylor) September 18, 2022 __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-18-2022, 07:12 PM	#341
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hmm, I dunno. But I did learn I am taller than 98% of my peers.

09-18-2022, 07:43 PM	#343
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Maybe someone should start a dating app for short dudes?

09-18-2022, 08:13 PM	#344
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I’m tall enough. 5’10”. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-19-2022, 11:23 AM	#346
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Yes, I noticed the first. Not surprising, when I go into museums I think ... people used to fit in that? Didn't think about shrinking when you get older, good point. I guess for women there is osteoporosis.

09-19-2022, 03:49 PM	#348
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Well on a positive note today I learned that Barbara is going to be moving into an apartment just about a mile down the road from me. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-19-2022, 04:46 PM	#350
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	On the positive side, little people are about the only ones who can travel comfortably on a commercial airliner these days. I think, after a year of trying, it's best not to assume Barbara's move is germane to your original topic pursuit. OK, I just youtubed Randy Newman's one-hit wonder (only top 40 single, though he has had a long and successful career).

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