2012-13 NBA Regular Season Thread, Feel the Heat - Page 7

whomario · 11-29-2012, 12:48 PM

He is a role player as of now... And there´s no way he´d be getting minutes (not a ton, but still rotation minutes) with the Thunder if he didn´t/wouldn´t look even better in camp or now in practice sessions.

SirFozzie · 11-29-2012, 08:25 PM

So, the Spurs rested three of their older players for their showdown with the Heat, and that has Stern pissed off, stating that he's going to levy "significant sanctions" against them

cuervo72 · 11-29-2012, 08:47 PM

Sanctions? The hell is Stern, the UN?

stevew · 11-29-2012, 08:50 PM

That's just something that Pop does. The Thursday games are really bad on older teams. Essentially require a back2back.

fpres · 11-29-2012, 08:54 PM

$tern is just trying to protect the integrity of the game.

Jas_lov · 11-29-2012, 09:14 PM

Tie ballgame in the 4th quarter. Hopefully the Spurs win to make Stern look like even more of a buffoon. Will Stern impose penalties on teams that only play their stars a certain number of minutes? Or when they have a playoff spot locked up and rest their players? Pop isn't breaking any rules so I guess Stern is just going to make one up.

Ajaxab · 11-29-2012, 10:15 PM

Four games in five days and six games in ten days for the Spurs. All on the road. Miami has been sitting since last Saturday. Stern needs to sanction the schedule maker before he sanctions San Antonio.

jbergey22 · 11-29-2012, 10:31 PM

Stern is nuts. He must think he has enough power to run all of the teams now instead of just a select few.

If he wanted to stop this kind of thing from happening he needed to do it awhile ago.

Smart strategy in my opinion. Probably werent going to win in Miami anyway so why waste older players on that game. Keep them fresh for more winnable games.

I know its not the nature of sports but the NBA season is too damn long. Need to cut back the schedule to prevent this.

RainMaker · 11-29-2012, 10:58 PM

Stern is a carnival barker and nothing more at this point. There's a reason why the league barely has credibility as a sport and is more sports entertainment than sport.

Young Drachma · 11-30-2012, 12:15 PM

Michael Jordan open to Hornets name back in Charlotte - ESPN

sterlingice · 11-30-2012, 12:17 PM

Only if we get to see teal and purple and run a 40+ year old Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson, too!

SI

kingfc22 · 11-30-2012, 05:49 PM

Can he fine the Warriors for making the playoffs once in what is close to a 20 year span?

Or maybe he should fine the Wizards for trotting out sub-par talent on a nightly basis.

This move is absurd and the Spurs should not even write the check.

stevew · 11-30-2012, 05:56 PM

I heard NO was going to consider adopting the Saints scheme and switch to the Pelicans name. But that was of dubious quality.

Charlotte needs to adopt Hornets.

Ajaxab · 11-30-2012, 09:22 PM

$250k fine for the Spurs. I wonder if the big 3 plus Green foot the bill on this if it even gets paid. Stern's move is absurd.

Adrian Wojnarowski takes the argument against Stern a lot further.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--da...194828970.html

stevew · 11-30-2012, 09:37 PM

Cavs resigned Kevin Jones after he was averaging 27ppg in the D League

Matthean · 11-30-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

$250k fine for the Spurs. I wonder if the big 3 plus Green foot the bill on this if it even gets paid. Stern's move is absurd.

Adrian Wojnarowski takes the argument against Stern a lot further.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--da...194828970.html

The biggest thing I don't get is they did this before with no issue.

stevew · 12-01-2012, 01:43 AM

That's an awesome takedown of Stern. I wish he would quit sooner.

miami_fan · 12-01-2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

The biggest thing I don't get is they did this before with no issue.

This. Why Stern would even bring this topic up given the league's history with teams not playing their best players every night is beyond me. I am actually looking for to the end of the season to see what fines the NBA hands out throughout the season. I suspect more teams will be doing "a disservice to the NBA and its fans" after the All Star break.

miami_fan · 12-01-2012, 11:31 AM

BTW, only two games for Rondo since he was defending a teammate? Good to know.

stevew · 12-01-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

This. Why Stern would even bring this topic up given the league's history with teams not playing their best players every night is beyond me. I am actually looking for to the end of the season to see what fines the NBA hands out throughout the season. I suspect more teams will be doing "a disservice to the NBA and its fans" after the All Star break.

that one year the Wolves tanked to like a 15 game losing streak to end the season and Love was mysteriously injured.

hoopsguy · 12-02-2012, 08:15 PM

Interesting to see this on a couple of levels:
1.) counter-point to the avalanche of criticism that Stern has received for issuing the fine
2.) coming from ... Mark Cuban
3.) I agree with just about everything Cuban says - forced me to re-evaluate my thoughts on the issue.

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban OK with San Antonio Spurs fine -- Should have been higher - ESPN Dallas

Cap Ologist · 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM

The only thing Cuban hates more than Stern is the Spurs so take his wisdom with a grain of salt. Next time Pop should just keep them in town, have them start and have one of them foul as soon as the ball is put in play, then take all of them out.

miami_fan · 12-03-2012, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Interesting to see this on a couple of levels:
1.) counter-point to the avalanche of criticism that Stern has received for issuing the fine
2.) coming from ... Mark Cuban
3.) I agree with just about everything Cuban says - forced me to re-evaluate my thoughts on the issue.

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban OK with San Antonio Spurs fine -- Should have been higher - ESPN Dallas

As one who is critical of the fine and Stern, I don't necessarily disagree with Cuban. I do find it funny that everyone feels comfortable screwing the fans in Orlando by having teams rest their stars against them. To me, the problem is not that he fined the Spurs, It is a combination of the fine AND the league's history AND he still has not solved the problem of teams resting players. Will teams actually send players home? Probably not. Next time, Tim Duncan will have a "hamstring" injury and just sit on the bench or may even have to go to the back for x-rays. Maybe Manu will play 24 seconds and then sit down because it is not a good "matchup" for him or the team that night. What if Tony Parker is playing like shit for the first quarter and Pop decides to bench him to send a message? Does he get a fine for that? If the fine is for Pop sending them back to San Antonio via commercial flight early and by doing so screwing with the betting lines, then I get that. That makes sense given the league's history. However, if it is truly about doing right by the national TV partners and making sure that teams put their best players on the floor every game, then he needs to do more work getting things right in the league office before he starts telling coaches who to play and who to not play.

whomario · 12-03-2012, 07:57 AM

Rubio participated in his first full team practice including 5:5 scrimmage

No date for his return, but it´s likely to be well before christmas if no setbacks are encountered.

Dwight Howard´s FT shooting is amazingly horrible.

Some contender should try to get Redick from the Magic, he´s just a rock solid player. Shot not falling this year, but on a bad magic team lacking playmaking he´s now averaging 5 APG (to just 2 TOs).

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 12-03-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

As one who is critical of the fine and Stern, I don't necessarily disagree with Cuban. I do find it funny that everyone feels comfortable screwing the fans in Orlando by having teams rest their stars against them. To me, the problem is not that he fined the Spurs, It is a combination of the fine AND the league's history AND he still has not solved the problem of teams resting players. Will teams actually send players home? Probably not. Next time, Tim Duncan will have a "hamstring" injury and just sit on the bench or may even have to go to the back for x-rays. Maybe Manu will play 24 seconds and then sit down because it is not a good "matchup" for him or the team that night. What if Tony Parker is playing like shit for the first quarter and Pop decides to bench him to send a message? Does he get a fine for that? If the fine is for Pop sending them back to San Antonio via commercial flight early and by doing so screwing with the betting lines, then I get that. That makes sense given the league's history. However, if it is truly about doing right by the national TV partners and making sure that teams put their best players on the floor every game, then he needs to do more work getting things right in the league office before he starts telling coaches who to play and who to not play.

well said. too many games+too much travel. you'd think schedule making would be the utmost priority in every league (to maximize rest and ensure the best product for fans) but it never works out that way

miami_fan · 12-03-2012, 09:58 AM

So..uhhh.... anybody heard any good trade rumors for Pau Gasol?

DaddyTorgo · 12-03-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

So..uhhh.... anybody heard any good trade rumors for Pau Gasol?

They should probably put in a call to the 76ers. They seem to like Lakers big men with knee troubles.

Or maybe Portland is looking for a replacement on the bench for Oden?

sterlingice · 12-03-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

$250k fine for the Spurs. I wonder if the big 3 plus Green foot the bill on this if it even gets paid. Stern's move is absurd.

Adrian Wojnarowski takes the argument against Stern a lot further.David Stern stumbles again in his failed culture war against the Spurs, fines franchise $250K - Yahoo! Sports

Wow, Woj. I like it but I'm guessing he doesn't get any interviews from the commish's office for a while.

Also, I get what Cuban is saying but he hit the nail on the head right here: "Cuban said he has complained to the league office before about putting teams on national television who have such scheduling circumstances, but those complaints fell on deaf ears."

Look, you want a good game on TNT, don't pick the team that has played 4 games in 5 nights.

SI

miami_fan · 12-04-2012, 01:57 AM

I have no idea how significant SI's Sportsman of the Year is among sports fans today, but the idea of Lebron James winning this sort of award seems stunning to me given the popular opinion two years ago.

LeBron James: 2012 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year - Sportsman of the Year - SI.com

MrBug708 · 12-04-2012, 06:17 PM

stevew · 12-04-2012, 06:18 PM

Is that real?

molson · 12-04-2012, 06:24 PM

That sounds like the name of a team that would play the Globetrotters every night.

Logan · 12-04-2012, 06:29 PM

Pelican fly! Come onnnnnnnnn Pelican!!!

Thomkal · 12-04-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

That sounds like the name of a team that would play the Globetrotters every night.

Or a Minor League Baseball team, my Myrtle Beach Pelicans. Not a great choice for a NBA team however if its real.

MrBug708 · 12-04-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Is that real?

I doubt it's real, but nothing stopping it from becoming so

stevew · 12-04-2012, 06:52 PM

It's real. I heard about it a few months ago and ESPN is reporting it now.

Young Drachma · 12-04-2012, 06:54 PM

New Orleans Hornets to change nickname to Pelicans, according to report - ESPN

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...231227843.html

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 12-04-2012, 07:04 PM

i like it. it's like a team name from double dribble. new orleans pelicans vs boston frogs

Desnudo · 12-04-2012, 07:19 PM

It's like the opposite of Oregon football

cuervo72 · 12-04-2012, 07:35 PM

I suddenly have a hankerin' for Long John's.

stevew · 12-04-2012, 07:36 PM

Fadeaway from the corner.

britrock88 · 12-04-2012, 07:46 PM

Stylish unis, actually... but I thought they were going navy/yellow/red? They need to back off the teal if Charlotte wants to reclaim the Hornets.

britrock88 · 12-04-2012, 07:47 PM

Dola--

The New Orleans Pelicans were a minor league baseball team for much of the twentieth century. And it sure beats the alternative of "Krewe."

cuervo72 · 12-04-2012, 08:04 PM

Add in a little green and it'd be close to the color scheme for my made-up Fresno Flow franchise.

stevew · 12-04-2012, 08:11 PM

Krewe was going to be horrible. Glad that didnt happen.

stevew · 12-04-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

Stylish unis, actually... but I thought they were going navy/yellow/red? They need to back off the teal if Charlotte wants to reclaim the Hornets.

Dola..that stuff might not be real(the jerseys)

korme · 12-04-2012, 08:44 PM

Those unis aren't official but the name change is, just to be clear.

kcchief19 · 12-04-2012, 09:02 PM

If I had to wear those team colors, I'd have to kick my own ass.

rjolley · 12-04-2012, 09:46 PM

If you were getting paid the NBA minimum salary, you'd wear it with pride.

britrock88 · 12-04-2012, 10:04 PM

Well, then, I look forward to seeing how much worse the NBA does than that.

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11-29-2012, 12:48 PM	#301
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	He is a role player as of now... And there´s no way he´d be getting minutes (not a ton, but still rotation minutes) with the Thunder if he didn´t/wouldn´t look even better in camp or now in practice sessions. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 11-29-2012 at 12:48 PM.

11-29-2012, 08:25 PM	#302
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	So, the Spurs rested three of their older players for their showdown with the Heat, and that has Stern pissed off, stating that he's going to levy "significant sanctions" against them __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-29-2012, 08:47 PM	#303
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Sanctions? The hell is Stern, the UN? __________________ null

11-30-2012, 12:17 PM	#311
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Only if we get to see teal and purple and run a 40+ year old Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson, too! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

11-29-2012, 08:50 PM	#304
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	That's just something that Pop does. The Thursday games are really bad on older teams. Essentially require a back2back.

11-29-2012, 08:54 PM	#305
fpres High School JV Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, Texas	$tern is just trying to protect the integrity of the game.

11-29-2012, 09:14 PM	#306
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Tie ballgame in the 4th quarter. Hopefully the Spurs win to make Stern look like even more of a buffoon. Will Stern impose penalties on teams that only play their stars a certain number of minutes? Or when they have a playoff spot locked up and rest their players? Pop isn't breaking any rules so I guess Stern is just going to make one up.

11-29-2012, 10:15 PM	#307
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	Four games in five days and six games in ten days for the Spurs. All on the road. Miami has been sitting since last Saturday. Stern needs to sanction the schedule maker before he sanctions San Antonio.

11-29-2012, 10:31 PM	#308
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Stern is nuts. He must think he has enough power to run all of the teams now instead of just a select few. If he wanted to stop this kind of thing from happening he needed to do it awhile ago. Smart strategy in my opinion. Probably werent going to win in Miami anyway so why waste older players on that game. Keep them fresh for more winnable games. I know its not the nature of sports but the NBA season is too damn long. Need to cut back the schedule to prevent this.

11-29-2012, 10:58 PM	#309
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Stern is a carnival barker and nothing more at this point. There's a reason why the league barely has credibility as a sport and is more sports entertainment than sport.

11-30-2012, 12:15 PM	#310
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Michael Jordan open to Hornets name back in Charlotte - ESPN

11-30-2012, 05:49 PM	#312
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Can he fine the Warriors for making the playoffs once in what is close to a 20 year span? Or maybe he should fine the Wizards for trotting out sub-par talent on a nightly basis. This move is absurd and the Spurs should not even write the check. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-30-2012, 05:56 PM	#313
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I heard NO was going to consider adopting the Saints scheme and switch to the Pelicans name. But that was of dubious quality. Charlotte needs to adopt Hornets.

11-30-2012, 09:22 PM	#314
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	$250k fine for the Spurs. I wonder if the big 3 plus Green foot the bill on this if it even gets paid. Stern's move is absurd. Adrian Wojnarowski takes the argument against Stern a lot further.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--da...194828970.html

11-30-2012, 09:37 PM	#315
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Cavs resigned Kevin Jones after he was averaging 27ppg in the D League

12-01-2012, 01:43 AM	#317
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	That's an awesome takedown of Stern. I wish he would quit sooner.

12-01-2012, 11:31 AM	#319
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	BTW, only two games for Rondo since he was defending a teammate? Good to know. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-02-2012, 08:15 PM	#321
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Interesting to see this on a couple of levels: 1.) counter-point to the avalanche of criticism that Stern has received for issuing the fine 2.) coming from ... Mark Cuban 3.) I agree with just about everything Cuban says - forced me to re-evaluate my thoughts on the issue. Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban OK with San Antonio Spurs fine -- Should have been higher - ESPN Dallas

12-02-2012, 08:29 PM	#322
Cap Ologist College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Flower Mound, TX	The only thing Cuban hates more than Stern is the Spurs so take his wisdom with a grain of salt. Next time Pop should just keep them in town, have them start and have one of them foul as soon as the ball is put in play, then take all of them out.

12-03-2012, 07:57 AM	#324
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Rubio participated in his first full team practice including 5:5 scrimmage No date for his return, but it´s likely to be well before christmas if no setbacks are encountered. Dwight Howard´s FT shooting is amazingly horrible. Some contender should try to get Redick from the Magic, he´s just a rock solid player. Shot not falling this year, but on a bad magic team lacking playmaking he´s now averaging 5 APG (to just 2 TOs). __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 12-03-2012 at 08:05 AM.

12-03-2012, 09:58 AM	#326
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	So..uhhh.... anybody heard any good trade rumors for Pau Gasol? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-04-2012, 01:57 AM	#329
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Sportsman of the Year I have no idea how significant SI's Sportsman of the Year is among sports fans today, but the idea of Lebron James winning this sort of award seems stunning to me given the popular opinion two years ago. LeBron James: 2012 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year - Sportsman of the Year - SI.com __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-04-2012, 06:17 PM	#330
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

12-04-2012, 06:18 PM	#331
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is that real?

12-04-2012, 06:24 PM	#332
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	That sounds like the name of a team that would play the Globetrotters every night.

12-04-2012, 06:29 PM	#333
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Pelican fly! Come onnnnnnnnn Pelican!!!

12-04-2012, 06:52 PM	#336
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	It's real. I heard about it a few months ago and ESPN is reporting it now.

12-04-2012, 06:54 PM	#337
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	New Orleans Hornets to change nickname to Pelicans, according to report - ESPN http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...231227843.html __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 12-04-2012 at 06:56 PM.

12-04-2012, 07:04 PM	#338
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	i like it. it's like a team name from double dribble. new orleans pelicans vs boston frogs

12-04-2012, 07:19 PM	#339
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	It's like the opposite of Oregon football

12-04-2012, 07:35 PM	#340
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I suddenly have a hankerin' for Long John's. __________________ null

12-04-2012, 07:36 PM	#341
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fadeaway from the corner.

12-04-2012, 07:46 PM	#342
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Stylish unis, actually... but I thought they were going navy/yellow/red? They need to back off the teal if Charlotte wants to reclaim the Hornets.

12-04-2012, 07:47 PM	#343
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Dola-- The New Orleans Pelicans were a minor league baseball team for much of the twentieth century. And it sure beats the alternative of "Krewe."