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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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10-12-2021, 10:51 AM | #3901 |
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Too much government oversight is bad! Unless it's telling a woman what she can do with her body, then it is totally cool!
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10-12-2021, 11:19 AM | #3902 | |
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It's the same flavor of "state's rights" charade it's always been - decisions should be made at whatever level the GOP controls. There's no consistency - if a bad law can be made at the national level, that's where it should happen. If it's state level, that's where it should happen. If it overrules local control? That's ok. But if they only control the local school board but not the state - that's where it should happen. SI
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10-12-2021, 03:27 PM | #3903 | |
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I was literally going to type all that. That's the argument I use when people argue states rights. I simply argue county, city, HOA, in succession and it goes predictably where it should.
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10-12-2021, 03:29 PM | #3904 |
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I cannot wait for all the Satanic Temple lawsuits that are coming out of the vaccine and abortion regs to hit the courts. If course, by then, it'll be a one party government, and it won't be freedom of religion, it'll be freedom of christianity, and nothing else.
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10-12-2021, 04:11 PM | #3905 |
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Anyone that thinks local government is better and less corrupt than state or national government isn't paying attention to the people running their local governments.
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10-12-2021, 05:44 PM | #3906 |
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No kidding. State and local government are more corrupt by a mile. They have much less scrutiny than the federal government.
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10-12-2021, 05:59 PM | #3907 | |
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From what I've seen, Abbott is trying to run to the right of everyone in the primary. I was just reading where he pulled the state's teen suicide hotline offline for "updating" after one of the opponents attacked him because it offers resources to LGBTQ+ teens. |
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10-12-2021, 06:05 PM | #3908 | |
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10-12-2021, 06:06 PM | #3909 | |
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10-13-2021, 05:04 PM | #3910 |
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Senate candidate Herschel Walker cancels fundraiser after uproar over donor’s use of vaccine-needle swastika in profile
C'mon, Herschel -- you know what you signed up for.
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10-13-2021, 05:12 PM | #3911 | |
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10-13-2021, 08:29 PM | #3912 |
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I fucking love how Trump is threatening the GOP by saying people shouldn't vote unless the GOP overturns the 2020 election.
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10-13-2021, 08:38 PM | #3913 |
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Just saw a poll with the GOP at 46% favoring mandatory childhood vaccines. Simply amazing how fast they have become an anti-vax party.
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10-13-2021, 09:25 PM | #3914 |
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10-13-2021, 10:13 PM | #3915 | |
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I wonder if this is going to be his excuse when he decides to not run. Maybe I am giving him too much credit. But I can see a scenario where he drops out because he can't participate if they are going to cheat again. them whomever gets the nomination loses he can claim had he run he would have won. |
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10-13-2021, 10:17 PM | #3916 |
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Dola- I am hopped up on painkillers so if that makes zero sense thats why
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10-14-2021, 07:31 AM | #3917 |
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I hope you brought enough for the rest of the class.
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10-14-2021, 07:50 AM | #3918 |
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I think it's just to rile everyone up, "remind" everyone how bad the voting mechanisms are, then use it as more of an excuse to overturn things down the road because though they've tried, things weren't adequately "fixed."
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10-14-2021, 08:41 AM | #3919 |
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I seriously doubt he's going to be saying this next November. This is just a tug of war with the GOP over power - reminding them they need to kowtow to him or he can really screw them.
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10-14-2021, 11:57 AM | #3920 | |
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I think it's partly to remind the GOP he's in control of the party and partly to give himself an out if polling doesn't look good. |
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10-20-2021, 08:47 PM | #3921 |
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Trump starting a "free speech" social media site. Part of the TOS is you aren't allowed to post criticism of the site.
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10-20-2021, 09:02 PM | #3922 |
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Whatever happened to the My Pillow Guy social media site?
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10-21-2021, 12:12 PM | #3923 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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I cannot believe we're just going to let this shit happen in slow motion.
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Off to a good start and headed along the lines of everything else this assclown touches...failure
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10-21-2021, 05:45 PM | #3925 |
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Found this a little funny. This guy didn't technically attend the January 6th attack but posted vague threats online (which after reading, sound not much different from stuff you come across online all the time).
Not only did a judge sentence him to serve time, but it was beyond what the prosecutor even asked for (time served). Kind of shocking considering the slaps on the wrist everyone else got until you see the mugshot. Troy Smocks Gets 14 Months For Threatening Jan. 6 Posts |
10-21-2021, 06:04 PM | #3926 | |
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10-22-2021, 02:03 AM | #3927 |
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'I've lost my joy': Anti-vax Republican, who worked for the Trump campaign and embraced QAnon, says she has COVID-19
I give you a senate candidate for one of two american parties. Props for going with the "tests gave me Covid" trope for variety. Also, the "need a good husband for advice" line, way to know your audience. And given the number of disgusting non covid stuff here, the Covid Statements might not even make her personal top 3 lunatic moments. Looks like she's trying haaaaard to tick all the boxes.
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10-22-2021, 08:07 AM | #3928 |
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Well she is a whole new special level of batshit crazy isn't she?
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10-22-2021, 08:13 AM | #3929 |
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She's very on brand for the *new* GOP.
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10-22-2021, 08:48 AM | #3930 |
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Wasn't the previous Delaware GOP candidate a witch or something?
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10-22-2021, 09:13 AM | #3931 | |
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it's been a while, but yes that was definitely a thing...candidate for US Senate, maybe? (quick search) ding ding! 'I'm Not A Witch,' Republican Candidate Christine O'Donnell Tells Delaware Voters : The Two-Way : NPR |
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10-22-2021, 01:44 PM | #3932 |
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No jail time for a couple who was actually there and said they'd do it again. And the fine and jail time is less than what you get here for stealing someone's phone. Reggie Walton Fines Lori and Thomas Vinson in Jan. 6 Case |
10-24-2021, 03:10 PM | #3933 | |
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Serious food for thought. When I ask these kinds of questions it tends to just rile up the board, so I'll shut up and go away if that happens. But recent events, and stuff like this:
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10-24-2021, 03:27 PM | #3934 |
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I happened to catch an old South Park episode on this topic centered around the Iraqi War. It was basically everyone drawing a line down the center of town and then agreeing to let the other side through for school, stores, etc., and when the impossibility of truly separating became quickly apparently, that we should remain united because we are a country that says one thing and does another.
I have no idea how that would play out in real life. I suppose your college towns and large cities would be a bloodbath because that's where the "blue populace" largely sits and would be the only thing standing between full secession and just rural areas claiming independence. I have been worried for a while about the fact that we are quickly losing any commonalities, even beyond the political hyperbole. When it comes down to things like the pandemic, where you see how certain people respond to an actual situation, not just political theater, you start to question whether you want to live in the same community as these people. Even people you've known for years, when you see them doing things that seem crazy to you, you start to ask a lot of questions about who they really are and how they could come to those kinds of opinions/actions. Frankly, it's depressing to think about.
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10-24-2021, 03:37 PM | #3935 |
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I think it would be a mess with the cities vs the suburbs. It wouldn't be states vs states, it'd just be one big muddle.
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10-24-2021, 03:55 PM | #3936 |
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The major issue with the US trying to put down any sort of secessionist movement, or "freedom" movement within the country, and doing so with military force, is that for most of the last 80 years the USA has genuinely stood behind the revolutionary forces and pressured foreign nations to relent to those pressures. They have internationally chastised countries that have used force, held them up as civil rights violators, and painted them as enemies of the free world. So should that shoe be on the other foot, and should the US enter into those political and military devices that they have publicly opposed, it does nothing but drive the wedge, and international standing down to a point where countries that routinely do those things, like China, and Russia hold themselves up to their own populace as the 'right' form of government.
What should they do? They should declare those states as enemies of the nations and immediately and forcefully undercut them, put them back in their place and reassert the necessary authority that the state possesses.
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10-24-2021, 07:51 PM | #3937 | |
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I don't have an answer to your question Brian because I can't wrap my head around the states seceding. Being an American seems way too important to leave that.
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10-24-2021, 07:52 PM | #3938 | |
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I would say city and suburbs vs. the rural areas.
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10-24-2021, 07:56 PM | #3939 |
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It can't happen because we're too mixed at the state level.
What states did Biden receive his second and third highest vote totals? Texas and Florida. Even MS had a Dem win 46% of the votes in the last Gov race.
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10-24-2021, 08:26 PM | #3940 |
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On the topic of succession, there was a story this week about the 3 rural MD panhandle counties reaching about joining West Virginia.
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10-24-2021, 08:43 PM | #3941 | |
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Sometimes I try to explain to people back home in New England that EVERYONE in Idaho isn't a Trumper, in fact, only 50% voted for him in my county, and that I don't even know any admitted Trumpers or anti-vaxxers personally, except maybe as friends of friends I know of. |
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10-24-2021, 08:53 PM | #3942 |
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Hell, there are folks, well off folks in my town that fly the "Don't tread on me flag"
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10-24-2021, 11:07 PM | #3943 | |
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Great final line on a WaPo editorial today:
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10-25-2021, 05:52 AM | #3944 | |
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At the start of the month a poll was released showing 41% of Biden voters want it to happen, and 52% of Trump voters. I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but things have changed. If those numbers go north of 60% or whatever, it's not outside the realm of possibility. The pandemic has really accelerated a trend that was already happening; the whole 'more unites us than divides us' sentiment ain't what it used to be. Last edited by Brian Swartz : 10-25-2021 at 06:03 AM. |
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10-25-2021, 06:56 AM | #3945 |
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So Rolling Stone came out with an article late last night where they had talked to three of the conspirators who had/are cooperating with the Jan 6 Committee and if true looks pretty damning for those in Trump's orbit, especially the usual suspects among Republican Congressmen/women. I would like it a more "newsy" news service had come out with this, but a lot coincides with the research Seth Abramson has been tweeting about for months now, and is being discussed by the Committee.
Two Jan. 6 Planners Cooperate With Committee, Name MAGA Congress Members - Rolling Stone
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10-25-2021, 07:25 AM | #3946 | |
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I would say the loss of those state you mentioned, maybe with the exception of Texas, would be an acceptable loss for the US. |
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10-25-2021, 07:27 AM | #3947 | |
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And nothing will happen because Biden selected a spineless, dickless, AG. |
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10-25-2021, 08:14 AM | #3948 |
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If Texas wants to leave, good riddance. Worst state in the Union.
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Just read the article. This guy hits all the Fox News talking points. Quote:
Like I said earlier. Nothing is going to happen. They are going to drag this out until 22, win back the majority, and history will be rewritten so Jan 6 never happened. Garland is a dickless coward too worried about optics and peoples feelings. Bill Barr would have people in jail by now. Last edited by Lathum : 10-25-2021 at 08:28 AM. |
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