2010 College Football Hiring/Firing Thread - Page 8

Matthean · 12-31-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I realize in college football the SEC is king, but is there any logical reason why Weis, who has received plaudits for his work in the very same position with a successful 2010 NFL team (the Chiefs), would leave those Chiefs to make a lateral move back to college?

I think Weis is only leaving his coordinator spot for a head coach spot somewhere (college or pors, and probably not college; I don't think Weis enjoyed his college experience coaching).

I was trying to grab for ideas as well. I think being just the OC will help versus trying to take on the head job. He might have found out he likes dealing with universities and college kids versus the pros as well. But on the surface, this looks like something you would only do for a long time friend. It would be a great hire if they could get him though.

Atocep · 12-31-2010, 05:31 PM

Pitt claimed the reason they went with Haywood over Holgorsen was because they wanted a man of character.

Former ND offensive coord, new Pitt coach Haywood arrested

RomaGoth · 12-31-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Pitt claimed the reason they went with Haywood over Holgorsen was because they wanted a man of character.

Former ND offensive coord, new Pitt coach Haywood arrested

Yep, he definitely has character.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-31-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Pitt claimed the reason they went with Haywood over Holgorsen was because they wanted a man of character.

Former ND offensive coord, new Pitt coach Haywood arrested

So who will be the new head coach at Pitt? Unless there's pretty quick proof that he's falsely accused, I have to think this is a situation where you cut your losses & rapidly move to the next choice on your list.

M GO BLUE!!! · 12-31-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So who will be the new head coach at Pitt? Unless there's pretty quick proof that he's falsely accused, I have to think this is a situation where you cut your losses & rapidly move to the next choice on your list.

Maybe they'll go with George O'Leary.

General Mike · 12-31-2010, 09:30 PM

RichRod 4 Pitt. Stick it to WVU for stealing Holgerson

Kodos · 12-31-2010, 11:47 PM

I'm really happy with the staff getting put together at Indiana. Kevin Wilson (Oklahoma) as head coach, Brent Pease (Boise State) as OC, Mike Ekeler (Nebraska) as Co-DC. Nice to see we're no longer raiding the MAC for coaches. I think Indiana should see some solid improvement in the next few years, as this staff is light years better than what we had under Bill Lynch. I actually feel a little hope for the the team now that we have some young, innovative guys with high energy on the sidelines.

Atocep · 01-01-2011, 05:09 PM

Haywood fired.

It'll be interesting to see which direction they go in now. It leaked out not long after Wanny was "fired" that they were going cheap on a head coach and eventually settled on Haywood. They could decide this is such an embarrassment that they have to go out and make a splash now.

I'm nervous that eventually even Steve Pederson can get a hire right when given enough chances.

RomaGoth · 01-01-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Haywood fired.

It'll be interesting to see which direction they go in now. It leaked out not long after Wanny was "fired" that they were going cheap on a head coach and eventually settled on Haywood. They could decide this is such an embarrassment that they have to go out and make a splash now.

I'm nervous that eventually even Steve Pederson can get a hire right when given enough chances.

No worries, Rich Rodriguez will be available this week.

Atocep · 01-01-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

No worries, Rich Rodriguez will be available this week.

Rich has spent the last 2 years trying to repair the bridges he destroyed at WVU on the way out and has directly asked for his job back twice in the past 6 months.

He wants to get back to WVU at some point so I seriously doubt he's dumb enough to take the Pitt job.

Matthean · 01-01-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

No worries, Rich Rodriguez will be available tomorrow.

Fixed.

cougarfreak · 01-01-2011, 06:03 PM

I wonder if Pitt will go after Marvin Lewis........he'll be available by Tuesday I'd bet. He's from the area.

Atocep · 01-01-2011, 06:13 PM

My initial guess would be they look at Paul Rhoads, Teryl Austin, and Sal Sunseri. I can't see Cignetti getting the job.

stevew · 01-01-2011, 06:38 PM

Pitt is really taking a beating here.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2011, 09:18 PM

AP is reporting that Weis has accepted an offer to become Florida's OC.

Edit to add link:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...r-at-florida/1

Swaggs · 01-01-2011, 11:23 PM

If Pitt was serious this time around, they would open up the purse strings and hire Kevin Sumlin immediately.

But, they are cheap and still on the hook for Wanny (had just signed an extension) and probably are going to have to give some type of payout to Haywood (to keep him from fighting it while/if his legal issues are being settled). I'm guessing they will end up with someone like Paul Pasqualoni or Tim Lewis.

RomaGoth · 01-02-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

If Pitt was serious this time around, they would open up the purse strings and hire Kevin Sumlin immediately.

But, they are cheap and still on the hook for Wanny (had just signed an extension) and probably are going to have to give some type of payout to Haywood (to keep him from fighting it while/if his legal issues are being settled). I'm guessing they will end up with someone like Paul Pasqualoni or Tim Lewis.

I hear Ralph Friedgen is available.

RomaGoth · 01-02-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Fixed.

Don't we wish? I will be ecstatic the day that assclown is booted out of Ann Arbor.

CU Tiger · 01-02-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I hear Ralph Friedgen is available.

That may be changing sooner rather than later.
I understand he is deep into talks to serve a 2 year stint (guaranteed no more no less) as OC for another ACC school.

Young Drachma · 01-02-2011, 02:47 AM

I wonder what kind of settlement Haywood gets to get the boot. What an embarrassment for everyone involved.

MrBug708 · 01-02-2011, 09:40 AM

Has there ever been a college coach as in demand as Jim Harbaugh? He could take the 49ers, Broncos, or the Panthers job as well as Michigan. Shoot, he could have had the Florida or the Miami job if he had really wanted it.

DeToxRox · 01-02-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Has there ever been a college coach as in demand as Jim Harbaugh? He could take the 49ers, Broncos, or the Panthers job as well as Michigan. Shoot, he could have had the Florida or the Miami job if he had really wanted it.

The Michigan Scout & Rivals sites are insinuating Harbaugh will be named Michigan's coach by the end of the week. I don't really buy it but we shall see.

DeToxRox · 01-02-2011, 12:49 PM

Looks like Randy Edsall is going to Maryland according to a bunch of different sources.

Young Drachma · 01-02-2011, 01:15 PM

Oh wow. I guess maybe the BCS loss and TCU coming the league makes him realize they're not going to fluke into a BCS game again anytime soon.

Logan · 01-02-2011, 01:16 PM

Okay, I apologize to HiFi...

Swaggs · 01-02-2011, 02:03 PM

Kind of a surprise, if true.

I can understand striking while the iron is hot (from Edsall's standpoint if he gets a nice raise), but this doesn't sound like a good marriage to me.

digamma · 01-02-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Oh wow. I guess maybe the BCS loss and TCU coming the league makes him realize they're not going to fluke into a BCS game again anytime soon.

Not sure--He's looked around every year, and has done a really good job spinning the times he has been passed over for a new gig as his own decision to stay at UConn. Gotta be tough being the third banana in an athletic department (hard enough for the UNC and Kentucky football coaches to be #2).

Swaggs · 01-02-2011, 02:59 PM

Randomly throwing this out there, but I wonder if Tom Coughlin would be interested in the UConn gig (if gets the axe this season).

General Mike · 01-02-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Randomly throwing this out there, but I wonder if Tom Coughlin would be interested in the UConn gig (if gets the axe this season).

He's pretty old. I know he's the oldest head coach in the NFL right now

dawgfan · 01-02-2011, 05:36 PM

Some college program should give Mike Singletary a look. I know he didn't work out so well for the Niners, but the college game is different and he's probably a better fit at the college level.

Young Drachma · 01-02-2011, 05:46 PM

I don't think Singletary would be a very good college coach. Not diplomatic enough, not a game manager and the college job these days is really the gig of a CEO and I think his shtick wouldn't work well in a college game as well as it does in the pros.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-02-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I don't think Singletary would be a very good college coach. Not diplomatic enough, not a game manager and the college job these days is really the gig of a CEO and I think his shtick wouldn't work well in a college game as well as it does in the pros.

Agreed. He's a position coach personality, ala Trooper Taylor (among many example).

CU Tiger · 01-02-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I don't think Singletary would be a very good college coach. Not diplomatic enough, not a game manager and the college job these days is really the gig of a CEO and I think his shtick wouldn't work well in a college game as well as it does in the pros.

Big ole +1.
I can't see Singletary going on the banquet circuit kissing 70 year old ass and begging for cash. And if he cant do that, then cant coach college.

Young Drachma · 01-02-2011, 06:05 PM

Wonder if Randy Shannon will get any looks by programs for jobs. I don't think he's a very good game manager either, but he can recruit well, graduates players and if the U wasn't delusional about their place in the modern college football landscape, he'd have remained there.

miami_fan · 01-02-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Wonder if Randy Shannon will get any looks by programs for jobs. I don't think he's a very good game manager either, but he can recruit well, graduates players and if the U wasn't delusional about their place in the modern college football landscape, he'd have remained there.

I would say that Miami is probably the only school in America who would have given Randy Shannon a head coaching job when he got one. While Randy has an impressive story, he is not an impressive story teller. He is not very good in interviews and tends to be very direct to a fault. He is not one to BS anyone. That plays well when you win, it sucks when you lose.

Ksyrup · 01-02-2011, 06:29 PM

I just realized that the Pitt AD is the same dude responsible for the Nebraska/Callahan debacle.

Good times.

Abe Sargent · 01-02-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

He's pretty old. I know he's the oldest head coach in the NFL right now

Coughlin could easily get another HC job if fired. Fired in an 10 win season? A Super Bowl ring for one team, and two AFC Championship Games for the other? Yeah, I think he could find a job in today's market in the NFL.

RainMaker · 01-02-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Ralph Friedgen > Randy Edsall. It's not even close. Under Armour better go SMU level dirty on the recruiting trail or it's going to be a bloodbath very soon.

The move makes no sense. Edsall is a safe option, he'll win you 8 games and that's it. But so would Friedgen. The only way the move to dump him made sense was if they were taking a shot with a guy like Leach who while risky, had a much higher upside.

RainMaker · 01-02-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Agreed. He's a position coach personality, ala Trooper Taylor (among many example).

Agreed. I guess the only exception would be maybe an FCS or D2 role where the novelty of playing for him would bring in some better recruits than normal.

He's best off just being a linebackers coach though on the NFL level.

CU Tiger · 01-02-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

That may be changing sooner rather than later.
I understand he is deep into talks to serve a 2 year stint (guaranteed no more no less) as OC for another ACC school.

Clemson Assistants Napier, Powell Fired wltx.com | Columbia, SC News, Weather and Sports |

I'm not sayin'; I'm just sayin'

Oh the fat man ate steak (but no lobster) at dinner tonight.

VPI97 · 01-02-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Clemson Assistants Napier, Powell Fired wltx.com | Columbia, SC News, Weather and Sports |

I'm not sayin'; I'm just sayin'

Oh the fat man ate steak (but no lobster) at dinner tonight.

F*ck

CU Tiger · 01-02-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

F*ck

This response made me smile.
But dont fret yet, Tulsa OC Chad Morris is set to interview on Wednesday morning as well...he may be great but last year at this time he was guiding a Texas HS program.

Atocep · 01-02-2011, 08:07 PM

Edsall reportedly didn't fly back with the team. Instead he flew directly to Baltimore and didn't bother to tell the team he had accepted the Maryland job.

http://blogs.courant.com/uconn_footb...ll-player.html

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Here's how a UConn freshman football player, who asked not to be identified, described how some members of the team learned of Randy Edsall's decision to go to Maryland and, what the former UConn coach said to them - and how.

No more than 25 players returned to Connecticut Sunday on the UConn charter. UConn is on break right now and many players scattered when they could. So he hadn't addressed everybody.

When the plane landed....

"We were on hold for a half-hour, with the operations manager telling us Edsall would be coming on in a few minutes. When Edsall came on he was like, "I just wanted to tell you that I'm sorry I can't do this in person, but due to circumstances ... I just want to let you know that it's not because of you guys. But it's an opportunity for my family. ... I can move on feeling like I've accomplished things here and I'm leaving the program in a good way."

"A couple of coaches said that was BS. ... They didn't know about it. He hadn't told any of us.

"It really pisses me off because he made Jordan (Todman) address the team last night to say he was leaving. And he isn't man enough to do it face to face to us?"

"A lot of people were just really upset by the call. He made Todman get up and tell the whole team: 'Jordan, I think you have something to say to these guys.' He made him do it face-to-face. But he didn't do it face-to-face."

"I'm going to look [at other schools], not Big East or anything. ... When you bring in a new coach, the first three or four years [it's all developing the program)]. But these are Edsall's players, not the new guy's. ... Well, I'm going to get the --- out of here. But what happens with the incoming recruiting class? Are those guys still coming?

"The thing I'm concerned with is, am I going to get my release."
The player said they had seen Edsall this morning at the hotel. "He could have told us then, face-to-face.

According to the player, Edsall also said on the call: 'Guys, this just happened. It was a spur of the moment thing. I had no idea."

I'm hearing now that Edsall was in contract negotiations with Maryland last week...

Peace,
DC

RomaGoth · 01-02-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

The move makes no sense. Edsall is a safe option, he'll win you 8 games and that's it. But so would Friedgen. The only way the move to dump him made sense was if they were taking a shot with a guy like Leach who while risky, had a much higher upside.

I don't see it is a bad move, but it isn't a good one either. Really, it is just a "meh" move for Maryland, and a good move for Edsall. Three years from now he will either be the toast of the Terps or looking for employment.

Atocep · 01-02-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I don't see it is a bad move, but it isn't a good one either. Really, it is just a "meh" move for Maryland, and a good move for Edsall. Three years from now he will either be the toast of the Terps or looking for employment.

UConn spends more money on football than Maryland. It's an odd move. I don't think he went to a job that's really any better or any worse than what he had at UConn.

From what's been reported a big part of this was because Edsall and the current AD do not get along at all.

RomaGoth · 01-02-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

From what's been reported a big part of this was because Edsall and the current AD do not get along at all.

Looks like the same thing happened at Maryland. I agree it is probably a lateral move for both Maryland and Edsall, but doesn't he at least get a somewhat better recruiting location?

Atocep · 01-02-2011, 09:48 PM

Better recruiting area? Yes. He's not much of a recruiter though so he'll have to bring in assistants that can recruit.

Crapshoot · 01-02-2011, 09:51 PM

Once again, college coaches prove themselves to be douchebags. That's an awful way to treat the kids.

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01-01-2011, 11:23 PM	#366
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	If Pitt was serious this time around, they would open up the purse strings and hire Kevin Sumlin immediately. But, they are cheap and still on the hook for Wanny (had just signed an extension) and probably are going to have to give some type of payout to Haywood (to keep him from fighting it while/if his legal issues are being settled). I'm guessing they will end up with someone like Paul Pasqualoni or Tim Lewis. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 01-01-2011 at 11:23 PM.

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I wonder what kind of settlement Haywood gets to get the boot. What an embarrassment for everyone involved. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 01-02-2011 at 02:47 AM.

12-31-2010, 05:31 PM	#352
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Pitt claimed the reason they went with Haywood over Holgorsen was because they wanted a man of character. Former ND offensive coord, new Pitt coach Haywood arrested

12-31-2010, 09:30 PM	#356
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	RichRod 4 Pitt. Stick it to WVU for stealing Holgerson

01-01-2011, 05:09 PM	#358
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Haywood fired. It'll be interesting to see which direction they go in now. It leaked out not long after Wanny was "fired" that they were going cheap on a head coach and eventually settled on Haywood. They could decide this is such an embarrassment that they have to go out and make a splash now. I'm nervous that eventually even Steve Pederson can get a hire right when given enough chances.

01-01-2011, 06:13 PM	#363
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	My initial guess would be they look at Paul Rhoads, Teryl Austin, and Sal Sunseri. I can't see Cignetti getting the job.

01-01-2011, 06:38 PM	#364
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Pitt is really taking a beating here.

01-02-2011, 09:40 AM	#371
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Has there ever been a college coach as in demand as Jim Harbaugh? He could take the 49ers, Broncos, or the Panthers job as well as Michigan. Shoot, he could have had the Florida or the Miami job if he had really wanted it.

01-02-2011, 12:49 PM	#373
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Looks like Randy Edsall is going to Maryland according to a bunch of different sources.

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Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Oh wow. I guess maybe the BCS loss and TCU coming the league makes him realize they're not going to fluke into a BCS game again anytime soon. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

01-02-2011, 01:16 PM	#375
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Okay, I apologize to HiFi...

01-02-2011, 02:03 PM	#376
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Kind of a surprise, if true. I can understand striking while the iron is hot (from Edsall's standpoint if he gets a nice raise), but this doesn't sound like a good marriage to me. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 01-02-2011 at 02:04 PM.

01-02-2011, 02:59 PM	#378
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Randomly throwing this out there, but I wonder if Tom Coughlin would be interested in the UConn gig (if gets the axe this season). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-02-2011, 05:36 PM	#380
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Some college program should give Mike Singletary a look. I know he didn't work out so well for the Niners, but the college game is different and he's probably a better fit at the college level.

01-02-2011, 05:46 PM	#381
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I don't think Singletary would be a very good college coach. Not diplomatic enough, not a game manager and the college job these days is really the gig of a CEO and I think his shtick wouldn't work well in a college game as well as it does in the pros. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

01-02-2011, 06:05 PM	#384
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Wonder if Randy Shannon will get any looks by programs for jobs. I don't think he's a very good game manager either, but he can recruit well, graduates players and if the U wasn't delusional about their place in the modern college football landscape, he'd have remained there. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

01-02-2011, 06:29 PM	#386
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I just realized that the Pitt AD is the same dude responsible for the Nebraska/Callahan debacle. Good times. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Better recruiting area? Yes. He's not much of a recruiter though so he'll have to bring in assistants that can recruit.

01-02-2011, 09:51 PM	#399
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Once again, college coaches prove themselves to be douchebags. That's an awful way to treat the kids.

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