Official College Football Thread - Championship Week

[mauchow]

Shocked to see a punt there from Spartans. Montee Ball time - solidify some Heisman votes here, buddy.

[mauchow]

RUN ball, RUN! Quit dancing.

[mauchow]

Ahhh, geez. Need at least one first.

[mauchow]

Surprised by the somewhat pussy call - but okay, here we go defense. Two minute drill time. Please punt it realllllly far.

[RainMaker]

This is a great game. And Gus Johnson makes it better.

[mauchow]

Thank you for running into kicker.

[mauchow]

And ball game.

[Grover]

Wow.

[Lathum]

wow, what a weak call to decide a conference championship game. Joke.

[RainMaker]

Shitty way to end. Dumb play though.

[B & B]

[Honolulu_Blue]

Michigan State deserved a better ending than this. They really did.

A shame such a great game had to end on such a call.

After watching these two teams go head-to-head twice this year, there is no real difference between the two.

[mauchow]

Well, you cant not call the penalty, but it sucks for MSU, regardless.

[sterlingice]

Man, I wish I had been watching this game all along. Having Gus Johnson call a 42-39 game probably was awesome

SI

[mauchow]

even though Spartans I think deserve a BCS spot before Wolverines they'll get a very worthy SEC opponent to prove themselves again. Hopefully they don't crap the bed like last year. I don't think they will this time.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

even though Spartans I think deserve a BCS spot before Wolverines they'll get a very worthy SEC opponent to prove themselves again. Hopefully they don't crap the bed like last year. I don't think they will this time.

I'd be a little more worried about Wisconsin crapping the bed against Oregon than anything Michigan State might do.

[MrBug708]

Does a postseason ban include the conference title game?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Man, I wish I had been watching this game all along. Having Gus Johnson call a 42-39 game probably was awesome

SI

Actually, what may be the greatest experience in the world is if Gus Johnson had been calling the Boise St-Oklahoma game. Please say that happened in some other parallel universe and that's what the Large Hadron Collider is after

SI

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I'd be a little more worried about Wisconsin crapping the bed against Oregon than anything Michigan State might do.

I think it will be a great Rose Bowl - much like last years game except a much higher scoring game.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

WHat a game! Too bad about that penalty... it would have been a much, much better ending than a few kneel downs.

Both teams showed a lot. Great jobs all around, regardless of some head scratching stuff by Wisconsin (which comes with any Wisconsin game.)

Sorry Sparty.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Does a postseason ban include the conference title game?

Yes, otherwise would have been USC, not UCLA in the PAC 12 game.

[ISiddiqui]

Man, what a game! Agreed that it was a disappointing ending!

[jbergey22]

Fantastic performance by Okie St with emphasis on how bad they screwed up their chance. Just no excuse for losing to Iowa State if you want to claim stake at being called the best.

[Young Drachma]

Another week solidifying why the current system is better than any playoff. Can't wait until tomorrow for the BCS SEC selection coronation show.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Fantastic performance by Okie St with emphasis on how bad they screwed up their chance. Just no excuse for losing to Iowa State if you want to claim stake at being called the best.

I'm convinced that would have been a much different game if there hadn't been the plane crash that killed the two coaches that morning.

[TroyF]

If this were college basketball instead of college football, OSU would be in the title game.

Wins vs. Current top 25:

OSU - 5
Alabama - 2

Wins against top 50 -

OSU - 7
Bama - 5


Wins vs. teams in the top 10 when they played:

OSU - 2
Bama - 0

Bama clearly wins the eye test. And I actually think Bama has a better chance to beat LSU than OSU does. But on body of work, OSU is flat out the better choice. I hope the voters get this right tomorrow.

[Kodos]

Man... what a heartbreaking way for Michigan State to lose the most exciting game I have seen in a lonnnnnnng time.

Fuck Wisconsin.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I hope the voters get this right tomorrow.

I really hope this was true as well but from anyone that has a clue about the BCS basically say the chance is "None."

[cuervo72]

Hypothetical. If Alabama had beaten LSU, but lost to say, Vandy, giving both LSU and Bama one loss each...still LSU/Bama for the title?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Hypothetical. If Alabama had beaten LSU, but lost to say, Vandy, giving both LSU and Bama one loss each...still LSU/Bama for the title?

I think as things went down yes.

[RainMaker]

So the quality wins argument only matters when it's a non-BCS school, right?

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I really hope this was true as well but from anyone that has a clue about the BCS basically say the chance is "None."

oh, I understand. Bama beating teams with a combined record of just over .500 (this despite LSU, Arkansas and Penn ST combining for a 32-5 mark, think about that for a second) will be enough to get them into the title game.

I have no doubts the college system will screw this up. This should have been fixed in 2001 when Nebraska couldn't win it's own division yet went to the title game. Bama couldn't win it's own division despite playing garbage teams all year and having their two most difficult conference games at home.

Again, if it's just the eye test, I get Alabama. I really do. But this should be about more than the eye test. It should be about a body of work. If you aren't biased and go by the body of work, OSU is in the title game. I know that won't happen.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

So the quality wins argument only matters when it's a non-BCS school, right?

This is a college football thread.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TroyF

.

Again, if it's just the eye test, I get Alabama. I really do. But this should be about more than the eye test. It should be about a body of work. If you aren't biased and go by the body of work, OSU is in the title game. I know that won't happen.

Yeah Im not sure. Its close. Okie st was a bad pass from being there as bama was a missed FG from being in LSUs situation. Okie St could hang there with either of them so I dont want to hear about LSU/Alabama beating them by 14+ like has been mentioned. LSU would have never seen a more talented group of WRs all year.

[k0ruptr]

I'll be a little disappointed if Boise doesn't sneak in to a BCS game. 1 point loss to a solid TCU team ouch.

[MJ4H]

Lots of people have said Arkansas has the best WR corps in the country this year.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Lots of people have said Arkansas has the best WR corps in the country this year.

Them people would be wrong. Okie St was 6 now 5 deep with pure freaks at the WR position including a top 10 pick in next years draft.

[MJ4H]

Based on?

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Man... what a heartbreaking way for Michigan State to lose the most exciting game I have seen in a lonnnnnnng time.

Fuck Wisconsin.

Payback's a bitch. Wisconsin's loss to MSU the first time around was a heartbreaker that killed their title game hopes.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Them people would be wrong. Okie St was 6 now 5 deep with pure freaks at the WR position including a top 10 pick in next years draft.

Arkansas just as deep and talented. The people calling Arkansas WRs the best in the country weren't just guessing, you know.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Based on?

Im not sure what you even mean but Oklahoma States and Baylors both are better than Arkansas.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Im not sure what you even mean but Oklahoma States and Baylors both are better than Arkansas. The #1 guy for Arkansas was a huge flop this year.

"Based on" means "what are you basing your opinion on?" I'm sure you mean Greg Childs who was coming off an injury and was far from our #1 receiver this year. That would be Jarius Wright. Before Childs near career-ending injury, he was our #1. Hard to believe but he's taken a little time to come back from the injury. The fact that our receivers didn't miss a beat and are still one of the best if not the best in the country without his contribution speaks volumes about the depth. I think we still are 7 or 8 deep at that position, without Childs.

Wright, Adams, Hamilton, Wingo, Herndon, Horton, Wade all in front of Childs as far as contribution this year, plus redshirting some huge talent.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Arkansas just as deep and talented. The people calling Arkansas WRs the best in the country weren't just guessing, you know.

I guess Ive never heard this. Did this come from the Arkansas message boards?

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'm convinced that would have been a much different game if there hadn't been the plane crash that killed the two coaches that morning.

Please, they were up 24-7 in the third.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I guess Ive never heard this. Did this come from the Arkansas message boards?

No, pretty much every national broadcast of Arkansas games this year and many national publications, countless articles, blogs, you name it.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Arkansas just as deep and talented. The people calling Arkansas WRs the best in the country weren't just guessing, you know.

You mean the WRs that got shut down twice against 'Bama and LSU?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

"Based on" means "what are you basing your opinion on?" I'm sure you mean Greg Childs who was coming off an injury and was far from our #1 receiver this year. That would be Jarius Wright.

Ive actually heard it a few places. Blackmon is considered a top 10 pick. Any mock draft board will show you this.

They have a talented big fast guy that is injury prone and now hurt again(Anyiam), they have a Wes Welker type in Cooper. Chelf and Moore are also in the mix of talented WRs. They have a couple more as well.

As a group they proved very productive this year and turned an average QB into a Heisman contender. I feel production speaks louder than words I guess.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Matthean

You mean the WRs that got shut down twice against 'Bama and LSU?

Yes, and that's largely my point.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Ive actually heard it a few places. Blackmon is considered a top 10 pick. Any mock draft board will show you this.

They have a talented big fast guy that is injury prone and now hurt again(Anyiam), they have a Wes Welker type in Cooper. Chelf and Moore are also in the mix of talented WRs. They have a couple more as well.

As a group they proved very productive this year and turned an average QB into a Heisman contender. I feel production speaks louder than words I guess.

Right, because Arkansas's receivers didn't produce anything this year.

:eyeroll:

Point being it is at least close. To say LSU hasn't seen anything like OSU's receivers is just being silly.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Right, because Arkansas's receivers didn't produce anything this year.

:eyeroll:

Point being it is at least close. To say LSU hasn't seen anything like OSU's receivers is just being silly.

I never said Arkansas didnt produce. They have a very nice group. They just dont have a top 10 NFL pick mixed in with some 6 foot 4 freaks and a nice underneath Welker type.