NFL Week 8 Discussion Thread: Randy Moss Claimed on Waivers by the Titans - Page 8

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tripps04

worst record first, plus Minnesota pays his salary. Plus Moss, will get a salary from his new team. WOW

According to Mort this isn't true. If no one claims him the Vikings have to pay him, if a new team claims him they have to pay him.

spleen1015 · 11-01-2010, 02:37 PM

If the Redskins sign up, I hope the give Rex fucking Grossman the starting job. They are perfect for each other.

DaddyTorgo · 11-01-2010, 02:38 PM

He wouldn't have to report to the claiming team I suppose though, so in reality he could essentially be a FA at this moment just by refusing to report to any team that he didn't want to go to.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

He wouldn't have to report to the claiming team I suppose though, so in reality he could essentially be a FA at this moment just by refusing to report to any team that he didn't want to go to.

Well he wouldn't play the rest of the season were that the case, and would probably have some issues with the league. He would accrue enough time to be a FA next year, though, right?

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

He wouldn't have to report to the claiming team I suppose though, so in reality he could essentially be a FA at this moment just by refusing to report to any team that he didn't want to go to.

How exactly does that make him a FA unless he just sits out this year?

Ksyrup · 11-01-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Or the Cowboys.

I mean if they weren't already out of it. Jerry Jones is crazy enough, but I don't think he'd throw the money away seeing as how their season is done.

Fire Phillips, install Moss as WR/coach.

OR

Bengals sign Moss and call HBO for in-season Hard Knocks featuring Dumb, Dumber, and Insanerer.

MizzouRah · 11-01-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Would a solid young team gamble on him though?

I don't want him.. but you never know what coach Spags was thinking when that came accross the wire today.

I highly doubt it, but I think we have a shot to win this division - would Moss help?

Coffee Warlord · 11-01-2010, 02:40 PM

C'mon down to Chicago Randy! I'm SURE you and Cutler will get along great.

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:40 PM

It will be interesting to see who claims him and who passed up on him.

molson · 11-01-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

According to Mort this isn't true. If no one claims him the Vikings have to pay him, if a new team claims him they have to pay him.

That's a big difference. And a decent amount of cash for the recent of this season.

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

This makes me ill. Childress is going to his ass rode right out of town soon. Minnesota has much more loyalty to Moss than they do this assbag so I dont think waiving the chosen one is going to go over well.

Any Minnesota fan who thinks this is a bad move is a fool. What exactly is the current incarnation of Moss bringing to the table?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:43 PM

$3.4m in an uncapped year, for a team that sees him as a cog to getting to the playoffs/winning in them? Not sure that's much of a deterrent.

PackerFanatic · 11-01-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

According to Mort this isn't true. If no one claims him the Vikings have to pay him, if a new team claims him they have to pay him.

Schefter is saying this as well.

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

That's a big difference. And a decent amount of cash for the recent of this season.

I don't get your comment. The OP claimed the Vikes have to pay Moss if he is claimed, plus the team that claims him has to pay him. I was just saying that isn't true. Either way Moss gets 3.4 mil from someone.

Swaggs · 11-01-2010, 02:45 PM

Gotta go to the Bengals with Ochochinco and T.O.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:46 PM

Really, I think it's still all about Moss getting PAID next year. Between Chilly, Gimp Favre and TJax I think he saw pretty quickly that wasn't going to be helped in Minny.

I dunno, I think he plays well for whoever gets him.

Lathum · 11-01-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

$3.4m in an uncapped year, for a team that sees him as a cog to getting to the playoffs/winning in them? Not sure that's much of a deterrent.

I don't think the money has anything to do with it for most owners. I think the question is the risk worth the reward.

Sun Tzu · 11-01-2010, 02:48 PM

Did I misspell something?

I just don't understand why any team would want Moss...just in general. He's become a possession receiver, which doesn't work because he's afraid to get hit. He's terrible with the press, he's terrible (from what I hear) in the locker room and he's lost all perspective on what it's like to not have $80M in the bank. The guy is a walking, talking, breathing joke of a person.

jbergey22 · 11-01-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Any Minnesota fan who thinks this is a bad move is a fool. What exactly is the current incarnation of Moss bringing to the table?

He opened up the offense for Harvin and AP. Harvin has been great since Moss got here. The game is much more than stats Lathum.

Moss hasnt done shit but just seeing all the different defenses the Pats threw at Moss yesterday shows how much respect he still gets.

Its not Moss's fault if that idiot Childress didnt know how to use him.

wade moore · 11-01-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

The ESPN article says teams have 24 hours to claim him and if no ones does, he can go any where. So, yeah 24 hours then a FA.

But so..

If team 1 wants him, they get him? Or does he have to agree to it?

M GO BLUE!!! · 11-01-2010, 02:49 PM

I don't get this at all. They knew what they were getting when they traded for him. To just waive him now shows that they are even more clueless than anybody has given them credit for.

jeff061 · 11-01-2010, 02:50 PM

Good stuff.

Clearly he just didn't want to play for the Vikes. When Moss mentally crosses that line, light goes off.

spleen1015 · 11-01-2010, 02:50 PM

The sad thing in all of this?

No one will talk about what dumbass Shannahan did yesterday.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

He's become a possession receiver

This is not in any way true.

spleen1015 · 11-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

But so..

If team 1 wants him, they get him? Or does he have to agree to it?

If he gets claimed, I think he has to go or he sits the rest of the year.

tripps04 · 11-01-2010, 02:51 PM

Minnesota does not pay his salary if someone puts a claim. If no one does then Vikes pay him, he goes into free agency and gets paid again.... Buffalo Bills are now on the clock...

jbergey22 · 11-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

I don't get this at all. They knew what they were getting when they traded for him. To just waive him now shows that they are even more clueless than anybody has given them credit for.

Bingo!

Travis · 11-01-2010, 02:52 PM

I wonder if the timing of this is purely Moss or if there is some chance that Rice is getting close to a return (as he'd provide the deep threat to compliment Harvin/Peterson).

jeff061 · 11-01-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

I don't get this at all. They knew what they were getting when they traded for him. To just waive him now shows that they are even more clueless than anybody has given them credit for.

No kidding. I can see it not working out, but in what, 2 weeks when you've invested a 3rd? Awesome.

WVUFAN · 11-01-2010, 02:52 PM

What's the chance he winds up back in NE? It's obvious from that press conference that's where he wants to be.

tucker rocky · 11-01-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Gotta go to the Bengals with Ochochinco and T.O.

Batman, Robin, Riddler, and the Joker?

(T.O, Ohco, Moss, C.Palmer)

spleen1015 · 11-01-2010, 02:54 PM

He was waived because all of the Minnesota media is talking about him now instead of Favre and his busted chin.

There is no way Favre stands for that!

Sun Tzu · 11-01-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

This is not in any way true.

His longest catch of the year is 37 yards...hell the 49ers backup TE (who has been hurt for half the year) has a longer catch than that.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WVUFAN

What's the chance he winds up back in NE? It's obvious from that press conference that's where he wants to be.

From what I've heard, not good. SEA and MIA already expressed interest. Of course, this has just happened so who knows what's real but I doubt every team passes. Of course, then the Pats wouldn't claim him so MIN would have to pay his salary.

edit: This is even assuming Belichick would want him back, which to be honest I'm not so sure about.

Thomkal · 11-01-2010, 02:55 PM

wow. all I can say is wow. If Minnesota wasn't already enough of a circus...

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

His longest catch of the year is 37 yards...hell the 49ers backup TE (who has been hurt for half the year) has a longer catch than that.

This is not a possession receiver.

Sun Tzu · 11-01-2010, 02:57 PM

He's on pace to finish the year with 50 receptions, 715 yards and 10 TD's.

That sounds (at best) like a #2 or #3 wideout on a team that prefers the run over the pass. Why would anyone pick this guy up?

Ksyrup · 11-01-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

His longest catch of the year is 37 yards...hell the 49ers backup TE (who has been hurt for half the year) has a longer catch than that.

True, but he's only got 20-something catches this year, so he's not possessing the ball much, either.

Sun Tzu · 11-01-2010, 02:59 PM

I didn't know making a one-handed catch disqualified a WR as being a possession receiver. I thought...you know...his production determined that.

My mistake.

*edit* Ksyrup makes a good point.

thesloppy · 11-01-2010, 03:01 PM

This brings up the same questions I always have about Minnesota:

1> Why don't the have a GM?
2> When did they last have a GM?
3> Who makes their personnel decisions?

Does Brad Childress really have carte blanche up there?

M GO BLUE!!! · 11-01-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

wow. all I can say is wow. If Minnesota wasn't already enough of a circus...

Just to fuck with everybody, Minnesota should claim Moss on waivers.

JAG · 11-01-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

C'mon down to Chicago Randy! I'm SURE you and Cutler will get along great.

That's where I was thinking for maximum humor, since he'll have two games vs the Vikings. Or else (sadly) the Cowboys.

PackerFanatic · 11-01-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

This brings up the same questions I always have about Minnesota:

1> Why don't the have a GM?
2> When did they last have a GM?
3> Who makes their personnel decisions?

Does Brad Childress really have carte blanche up there?

Chilly doesn't seem like the kind of guy that has the balls to do something like this. This came from higher up.

jbergey22 · 11-01-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

He's on pace to finish the year with 50 receptions, 715 yards and 10 TD's.

That sounds (at best) like a #2 or #3 wideout on a team that prefers the run over the pass. Why would anyone pick this guy up?

There is more to the game than stats. The Pats gameplanned their defense around Moss yesterday(watch the tape) in which it opened it up for Harvin and gave AP some holes to run early in the game.

The problem is teams will adjust to what the Vikings are doing which leaves Childress clueless on how to adjust back. If Favre chucked it deep to Moss 5-6 times a game he would come up with 2-3 of them balls and draw an interference on another one of them.

Abe Sargent · 11-01-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

They'd hafta have room for his contract though right?

we're in an uncapped year there DT.

Izulde · 11-01-2010, 03:05 PM

I think Moss in Miami would be great fun

Abe Sargent · 11-01-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Bearrs should pick him up and dress him in DeAngelo Hall's uni.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 11-01-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I didn't know making a one-handed catch disqualified a WR as being a possession receiver. I thought...you know...his production determined that.

No, skills determine whether he is a possession receiver. Welker is a possession receiver. Boldin is a possession receiver. Marshall is a possession receiver.

Just because he wasn't being thrown to much doesn't make him a possession receiver.

kingfc22 · 11-01-2010, 03:08 PM

This is awesome. What's next for the Vikes this year.

SirFozzie · 11-01-2010, 03:08 PM

In the good news category, this bit of insanity officially moves the Detroit Lions out of the role of "Laughing stock of the NFC North".. a role they held longer then Tiger Woods's stay at the top of the golf rankings.

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11-01-2010, 02:45 PM	#365
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11-01-2010, 02:46 PM	#366
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Really, I think it's still all about Moss getting PAID next year. Between Chilly, Gimp Favre and TJax I think he saw pretty quickly that wasn't going to be helped in Minny. I dunno, I think he plays well for whoever gets him. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

11-01-2010, 02:48 PM	#368
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Did I misspell something? I just don't understand why any team would want Moss...just in general. He's become a possession receiver, which doesn't work because he's afraid to get hit. He's terrible with the press, he's terrible (from what I hear) in the locker room and he's lost all perspective on what it's like to not have $80M in the bank. The guy is a walking, talking, breathing joke of a person. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

11-01-2010, 02:50 PM	#372
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Good stuff. Clearly he just didn't want to play for the Vikes. When Moss mentally crosses that line, light goes off. __________________

11-01-2010, 02:37 PM	#352
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	If the Redskins sign up, I hope the give Rex fucking Grossman the starting job. They are perfect for each other.

11-01-2010, 02:38 PM	#353
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	He wouldn't have to report to the claiming team I suppose though, so in reality he could essentially be a FA at this moment just by refusing to report to any team that he didn't want to go to.

11-01-2010, 02:40 PM	#358
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	C'mon down to Chicago Randy! I'm SURE you and Cutler will get along great.

11-01-2010, 02:40 PM	#359
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	It will be interesting to see who claims him and who passed up on him.

11-01-2010, 02:49 PM	#371
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I don't get this at all. They knew what they were getting when they traded for him. To just waive him now shows that they are even more clueless than anybody has given them credit for.

11-01-2010, 02:50 PM	#373
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	The sad thing in all of this? No one will talk about what dumbass Shannahan did yesterday.

11-01-2010, 02:51 PM	#376
tripps04 n00b Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Taylor, MI	Minnesota does not pay his salary if someone puts a claim. If no one does then Vikes pay him, he goes into free agency and gets paid again.... Buffalo Bills are now on the clock... __________________ Former Owner of the Carolina Panthers of HFL Last edited by tripps04 : 11-01-2010 at 03:07 PM.

11-01-2010, 02:52 PM	#378
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	I wonder if the timing of this is purely Moss or if there is some chance that Rice is getting close to a return (as he'd provide the deep threat to compliment Harvin/Peterson). __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

11-01-2010, 02:52 PM	#380
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	What's the chance he winds up back in NE? It's obvious from that press conference that's where he wants to be. __________________

11-01-2010, 02:54 PM	#382
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	He was waived because all of the Minnesota media is talking about him now instead of Favre and his busted chin. There is no way Favre stands for that!

11-01-2010, 02:55 PM	#385
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	wow. all I can say is wow. If Minnesota wasn't already enough of a circus...

11-01-2010, 02:57 PM	#387
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	He's on pace to finish the year with 50 receptions, 715 yards and 10 TD's. That sounds (at best) like a #2 or #3 wideout on a team that prefers the run over the pass. Why would anyone pick this guy up? __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

11-01-2010, 02:59 PM	#389
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I didn't know making a one-handed catch disqualified a WR as being a possession receiver. I thought...you know...his production determined that. My mistake. edit Ksyrup makes a good point. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon. Last edited by Sun Tzu : 11-01-2010 at 02:59 PM.

11-01-2010, 03:01 PM	#390
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	This brings up the same questions I always have about Minnesota: 1> Why don't the have a GM? 2> When did they last have a GM? 3> Who makes their personnel decisions? Does Brad Childress really have carte blanche up there? __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

11-01-2010, 03:05 PM	#396
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11-01-2010, 03:08 PM	#399
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