The 2010 MLB Season Thread - Page 84

EagleFan · 10-02-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I was thinking maybe during the exchange of lineup cards (which, IIRC, he did at least once in his career).

That would actually be a pretty cool way to go out (if the game didn't actually mean something that is).

ISiddiqui · 10-02-2010, 10:31 PM

Now this is a fun pennant race!! NL West and Wild Card come down to Game 162! Can't wait to watch the games!

Crapshoot · 10-03-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

So the whining about the "3 extra home games" can finally stop?

You got 3 extra home games. That's a fact. The Phillies are the best team in the NL - another fact. I fail to see how pretending the first didn't happen helps change anything about the second - or if it is anything other than pigheadedness on your part.

Crapshoot · 10-03-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Now this is a fun pennant race!! NL West and Wild Card come down to Game 162! Can't wait to watch the games!

Fun for you. I'm about to jump of the Golden Gate bridge.

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So you have four options:

A) Giants win, Braves Lose - Braves out, Giants 2 seed, Padres WC - SD @ Phi, Cin @ SF

Braves are not out in this scenario. They would be tied with the Padres and there would be a one game playoff in ATL.

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B) Giants win, Braves Win - SD @ Atl for WC, Giants 2 seed, SD/Cin @ Phi, Cin/Atl @ SF

Padres are out in this scenario. No playoff needed.

Dr. Sak · 10-03-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You got 3 extra home games. That's a fact. The Phillies are the best team in the NL - another fact. I fail to see how pretending the first didn't happen helps change anything about the second - or if it is anything other than pigheadedness on your part.

Phils have 97 wins. Assume they lose all those 3 games IN Toronto...they have 94 wins. Still doesn't factor into anything because the next best team has 91 wins.

I would buy yours and many other peoples arguments if the races/homefield advantage arguments were a lot closer.

dfisher · 10-03-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Phils have 97 wins. Assume they lose all those 3 games IN Toronto...they have 94 wins. Still doesn't factor into anything because the next best team has 91 wins.

I would buy yours and many other peoples arguments if the races/homefield advantage arguments were a lot closer.

They actually lost one of the games against the Blue Jays anyway, so that would drop them to 95 wins, or 1 win off the best record in the majors.

stevew · 10-03-2010, 11:05 AM

I thought the biggest favor in home field was getting to bat last. Or is "being able to sleep in you own bed" quantifyable as a stat now.

molson · 10-03-2010, 11:26 AM

It's just so ridiculously silly to whine about the location of 3 games over a 162-game season. A million things happen over the course of a baseball season - injuries, slumps, suspensions, players' personal issues, weather....To single-in on any of them, especially something as relatively meaningless as home field advantage over a short series in the middle of the season is nothing other than silly whining.

stevew · 10-03-2010, 11:30 AM

Pedro Alvarez has been on fire all month. But it is way too hard to tell if September actually matters.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You got 3 extra home games. That's a fact. The Phillies are the best team in the NL - another fact. I fail to see how pretending the first didn't happen helps change anything about the second - or if it is anything other than pigheadedness on your part.

I agree, it's quite bizarre.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 12:08 PM

Let's go Phils! I want this thing over by 1PM PST!

EagleFan · 10-03-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You got 3 extra home games. That's a fact. The Phillies are the best team in the NL - another fact. I fail to see how pretending the first didn't happen helps change anything about the second - or if it is anything other than pigheadedness on your part.

Are you freaking serious? At worst give them two more losses (as they were 2-1 in those games) and they are still the best record in the National League? My 6 year old can understand that math...

Since you want to talk facts...

Since July 22nd they have gone 49-18 (a .731 winning percentage). The three games in question affected that how? Maybe they added to that total? Oh wait, those games were a month before that streak even started.... MORON!!!!!!!

Let's not even talk about how the Phillies have the second best road record in the majors (and no, those gams are not included in that record).

sterlingice · 10-03-2010, 12:17 PM

So, uh, good job, MLB. You have one of the most exciting final days of the regular season and... the Phils/Braves game isn't on national tv anywhere. Online maybe- nope, MLB-premium subscribers only. But, I, for one, am definitely excited to see Yanks-Red Sox, which might decide home field but doesn't figure into who might or might not get in.

Congrats, you could have people watching baseball here but instead, they'll choose that excellent Packers-Lions suckfest.

SI

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 01:10 PM

Definitely a Phillies fan today.

RedKingGold · 10-03-2010, 01:22 PM

Crapshoot's just a fucking idiot. Move along with your logic, good sirs.

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 01:42 PM

Holy shit! The Braves are scoring runs! I almost forgot what this looked like.

Now 5-2 lead. Hudson had one of the RBI's, amazingly stroking an 0-2 pitch to center.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 01:46 PM

That was huge. C'mon Hudson.

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 01:54 PM

Strike Em Out, Throw Em Out! HELL YEAH!

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Definitely a Phillies fan today.

Our rooting interest is not helping apparently.

Maybe some reverse mojo is needed...

Go Braves!

rowech · 10-03-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

So, uh, good job, MLB. You have one of the most exciting final days of the regular season and... the Phils/Braves game isn't on national tv anywhere. Online maybe- nope, MLB-premium subscribers only. But, I, for one, am definitely excited to see Yanks-Red Sox, which might decide home field but doesn't figure into who might or might not get in.

Congrats, you could have people watching baseball here but instead, they'll choose that excellent Packers-Lions suckfest.

SI

Been on MLB Network since the game started.

Scoobz0202 · 10-03-2010, 02:22 PM

Not here it isn't. On mine they are counting down to the Padres game.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 03:06 PM

Damn, tying run up at the plate for the Phils now, please don't blow this one...

Karlifornia · 10-03-2010, 03:07 PM

Damn Braves...at least they'll have a solid 20,000 in the seats for the first round

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 03:08 PM

fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 03:08 PM

Jesus wept, goddamnit Wagner, get one fucking out here.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-03-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Damn Braves...at least they'll have a solid 20,000 in the seats for the first round

2010 MLB Attendance
Atlanta 78 2,352,071 30,154 60.2
San Diego 81 2,131,774 26,318 61.9

As usual Karl, you'll do better if you stick to talking about things you actually know something about.

Oh wait.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 03:11 PM

8-7 going into the bottom of the eighth, we could really use an insurance run or three the way things are going.

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 03:12 PM

Whew!

GrantDawg · 10-03-2010, 03:13 PM

First the Falcons try to kill me, now the Braves. I think I'm going to start watching something calm a soothing. Like demoliton derby or something.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-03-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

we could really use an insurance run or three

Or nine.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 03:13 PM

The Giants get screwed EARLY!!!

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 03:14 PM

FUCK! How do you miss the ball landing right on the chalk!

UNFUCKING REAL!!!

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 03:17 PM

Playing against the other team AND the umps is always difficult. What the hell.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 03:17 PM

Sigh...not a DP with a runner already on second.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Sigh...not a DP with a runner already on second.

And a would be 1-0 with that hit.

As long as they keep getting contact off of Latos I'll be happy.

GrantDawg · 10-03-2010, 03:32 PM

Yeah baby! My nose is bleeding, but Wagner got it done.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 03:32 PM

ALRIGHT!

Let's go Giants!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-03-2010, 03:36 PM

Billy Wagner pitching for Atlanta

S Victorino struck out looking
B Schneider struck out looking
G Dobbs struck out looking

0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors

Pumpy Tudors · 10-03-2010, 03:52 PM

I need a little help with something here. If the Braves had lost today and the Padres were to win, the Padres would automatically win the West because of a better head-to-head record over the Giants. The Giants would've gotten the wild card because they'd have a better record than the Braves. OK, I get that part.

Here's what I'm questioning now that the Braves have won: If the Padres win today, why do they have to play a playoff against the Giants tomorrow for the division? Why don't they still automatically win the West via head-to-head and make the Giants play the Braves for the wild card?

Rules are rules, but I just find it strange that they'll decide the division winner by head-to-head in one scenario, but they have to do a playoff in another.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 03:56 PM

Damn it, nice catch.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 03:57 PM

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 03:57 PM

Sanchez may be the slowest not-fat guy I've ever seen.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 03:58 PM

Sanchez with a triple! Now to get him home.

larrymcg421 · 10-03-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I need a little help with something here. If the Braves had lost today and the Padres were to win, the Padres would automatically win the West because of a better head-to-head record over the Giants. The Giants would've gotten the wild card because they'd have a better record than the Braves. OK, I get that part.

Here's what I'm questioning now that the Braves have won: If the Padres win today, why do they have to play a playoff against the Giants tomorrow for the division? Why don't they still automatically win the West via head-to-head and make the Giants play the Braves for the wild card?

Rules are rules, but I just find it strange that they'll decide the division winner by head-to-head in one scenario, but they have to do a playoff in another.

Makes sense to me. If both teams are going to the postseason, then head-to-head is fine as it doesn't have the same impact. They simply don't want head-to-head to eliminate someone from the playoffs. That has a bigger impact and they want that decided on the field.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 04:00 PM

Nice, the Giants have taken a 1-0 lead.

edit: make that 2-0 after a Huff double scores Sanchez

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 04:01 PM

Huff Daddy makes it 2-0!

molson · 10-03-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Makes sense to me. If both teams are going to the postseason, then head-to-head is fine as it doesn't have the same impact. They simply don't want head-to-head to eliminate someone from the playoffs. That has a bigger impact and they want that decided on the field.

Right, and a tiebreaker is a pretty big disadvantage for a team to have to play, while it's playoff opponent gets to rest its pitchers. So since the playoffs expanded in '95, that's always been the rule - play the tiebreaker only if it determines who actually goes to the playoffs.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 04:03 PM

Awesome. A hit by Buster here would be huge!

Pumpy Tudors · 10-03-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Makes sense to me. If both teams are going to the postseason, then head-to-head is fine as it doesn't have the same impact. They simply don't want head-to-head to eliminate someone from the playoffs. That has a bigger impact and they want that decided on the field.

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Originally Posted by molson

Right, and a tiebreaker is a pretty big disadvantage for a team to have to play, while it's playoff opponent gets to rest its pitchers. So since the playoffs expanded in '95, that's always been the rule - play the tiebreaker only if it determines who actually goes to the playoffs.

Well, I acknowledge that there's a certain logic to it. I still think it's a little weird, but I don't want to make a bigger deal out of it than it is. Thanks.

10-02-2010, 10:31 PM	#4152
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Now this is a fun pennant race!! NL West and Wild Card come down to Game 162! Can't wait to watch the games! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-03-2010, 11:26 AM	#4159
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It's just so ridiculously silly to whine about the location of 3 games over a 162-game season. A million things happen over the course of a baseball season - injuries, slumps, suspensions, players' personal issues, weather....To single-in on any of them, especially something as relatively meaningless as home field advantage over a short series in the middle of the season is nothing other than silly whining. Last edited by molson : 10-03-2010 at 11:26 AM.

10-03-2010, 12:08 PM	#4162
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Let's go Phils! I want this thing over by 1PM PST! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-03-2010, 12:17 PM	#4164
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	So, uh, good job, MLB. You have one of the most exciting final days of the regular season and... the Phils/Braves game isn't on national tv anywhere. Online maybe- nope, MLB-premium subscribers only. But, I, for one, am definitely excited to see Yanks-Red Sox, which might decide home field but doesn't figure into who might or might not get in. Congrats, you could have people watching baseball here but instead, they'll choose that excellent Packers-Lions suckfest. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 10-03-2010 at 12:19 PM.

10-03-2010, 01:42 PM	#4167
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Holy shit! The Braves are scoring runs! I almost forgot what this looked like. Now 5-2 lead. Hudson had one of the RBI's, amazingly stroking an 0-2 pitch to center. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-03-2010, 11:05 AM	#4158
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I thought the biggest favor in home field was getting to bat last. Or is "being able to sleep in you own bed" quantifyable as a stat now.

10-03-2010, 11:30 AM	#4160
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Pedro Alvarez has been on fire all month. But it is way too hard to tell if September actually matters.

10-03-2010, 01:10 PM	#4165
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Definitely a Phillies fan today.

10-03-2010, 01:22 PM	#4166
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Crapshoot's just a fucking idiot. Move along with your logic, good sirs.

10-03-2010, 01:46 PM	#4168
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	That was huge. C'mon Hudson.

10-03-2010, 01:54 PM	#4169
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Strike Em Out, Throw Em Out! HELL YEAH! __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-03-2010, 02:22 PM	#4172
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Not here it isn't. On mine they are counting down to the Padres game.

10-03-2010, 03:06 PM	#4173
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Damn, tying run up at the plate for the Phils now, please don't blow this one...

10-03-2010, 03:07 PM	#4174
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Damn Braves...at least they'll have a solid 20,000 in the seats for the first round __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

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larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-03-2010, 03:08 PM	#4176
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Jesus wept, goddamnit Wagner, get one fucking out here.

10-03-2010, 03:11 PM	#4178
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	8-7 going into the bottom of the eighth, we could really use an insurance run or three the way things are going.

10-03-2010, 03:12 PM	#4179
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Whew! __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-03-2010, 03:13 PM	#4180
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	First the Falcons try to kill me, now the Braves. I think I'm going to start watching something calm a soothing. Like demoliton derby or something.

10-03-2010, 03:13 PM	#4182
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The Giants get screwed EARLY!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-03-2010, 03:14 PM	#4183
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	FUCK! How do you miss the ball landing right on the chalk! UNFUCKING REAL!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-03-2010, 03:17 PM	#4184
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Playing against the other team AND the umps is always difficult. What the hell.

10-03-2010, 03:17 PM	#4185
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Sigh...not a DP with a runner already on second.

10-03-2010, 03:32 PM	#4187
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Yeah baby! My nose is bleeding, but Wagner got it done.

10-03-2010, 03:32 PM	#4188
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	ALRIGHT! Let's go Giants!

10-03-2010, 03:36 PM	#4189
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Billy Wagner pitching for Atlanta S Victorino struck out looking B Schneider struck out looking G Dobbs struck out looking 0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-03-2010, 03:52 PM	#4190
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I need a little help with something here. If the Braves had lost today and the Padres were to win, the Padres would automatically win the West because of a better head-to-head record over the Giants. The Giants would've gotten the wild card because they'd have a better record than the Braves. OK, I get that part. Here's what I'm questioning now that the Braves have won: If the Padres win today, why do they have to play a playoff against the Giants tomorrow for the division? Why don't they still automatically win the West via head-to-head and make the Giants play the Braves for the wild card? Rules are rules, but I just find it strange that they'll decide the division winner by head-to-head in one scenario, but they have to do a playoff in another. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor. Last edited by Pumpy Tudors : 10-03-2010 at 03:52 PM.

10-03-2010, 03:56 PM	#4191
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Damn it, nice catch.

10-03-2010, 03:57 PM	#4192
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Woo!

10-03-2010, 03:57 PM	#4193
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Sanchez may be the slowest not-fat guy I've ever seen.

10-03-2010, 03:58 PM	#4194
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Sanchez with a triple! Now to get him home. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-03-2010, 04:00 PM	#4196
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Nice, the Giants have taken a 1-0 lead. edit: make that 2-0 after a Huff double scores Sanchez Last edited by Big Fo : 10-03-2010 at 04:01 PM.

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Huff Daddy makes it 2-0! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-03-2010, 04:03 PM	#4199
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Awesome. A hit by Buster here would be huge!

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