03-27-2022, 12:38 AM | #401 |
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It's a bit premature, but if UNC defeats St. Peters tomorrow night, they will advance to the Final Four and play Duke. It's hard to believe that two of the most storied programs in college basketball history have never met in the NCAA tournament. In the 47 tournaments since the NCAA took multiple teams from each conference (beginning in 1975), Duke and Carolina have combined for 58 Sweet 16 appearances, 27 Final Fours and 10 National Championships. Yet they have never played each other in the NCAA tournament. Last edited by Vegas Vic : 03-27-2022 at 12:53 AM. |
03-27-2022, 06:58 AM | #402 |
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03-27-2022, 10:38 AM | #403 | |
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Feels very much like another attempt of the NCAA desperately trying to hang on to relevance or something more sinister. Much like the discussion about Kelvin Sampson earlier, this seems very quaint given the current environment. Adidas announces creation of wide-reaching NIL network - Sports Illustrated
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03-27-2022, 12:33 PM | #404 | |
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03-27-2022, 01:24 PM | #405 |
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Yay, Miami gets to flop
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03-27-2022, 01:50 PM | #406 | |
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03-27-2022, 02:05 PM | #407 |
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I just learned the Miami Hurricanes have a player named McGusty.
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03-27-2022, 03:06 PM | #408 | |
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Pretty much. Penny could get a NBA job though and there's no other college program he'd coach besides this one, much like Juwan at Michigan. That said, that program has long been a shady mess, so why was it supposed to stop now? Wild they weren't able to leverage his recruiting into more success, but the college basketball landscape now isn't 1960 and the NCAA is a relic. There need to be rules, but good luck finding consensus in this environment. |
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03-27-2022, 03:39 PM | #409 |
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My god. That second half
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03-27-2022, 03:48 PM | #410 |
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03-27-2022, 08:20 PM | #411 |
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Conspiracy theory: NCAA told refs that they want a Duke UNC game after they positioned the teams to be right where they are. A dramatic and awesome going away present.
EDIT: I realized it is the semi final game and not the final.
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And a 3 pointer sends Coastal and South Alabama into OT tied at 60 Edit: And another 3 pointer with 1 second left seals the game for the Chants 69-68 and they move on the Finals of the Basketball Classic!
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03-29-2022, 07:19 AM | #413 |
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You guys are having one heck of a sports year
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03-29-2022, 08:44 AM | #414 |
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Yes its going to suck when they all have a down season. Coastal gets Fresno State in the finals after they crushed Southern Utah. And they get home court advantage again when they play in Conway on Thursday
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03-29-2022, 08:49 AM | #415 |
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Why in the world did #1 seed South Carolina have to play #2 seed UConn in Bridgeport in the Women's Elite Eight?
It's one thing if, say, #8 seed North Carolina was placed in Raleigh as you don't expect a #8 seed to make it there. But as a #2 seed? SI
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NC State, not South Carolina. But yes, it's total BS. You earn a #1 seed so the most dominant women's program of the past 2 decades, the #2 seed, can have a home game. It was a 10K sellout crowd and I bet 9750 of them were UConn fans. They got screwed.
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I was just using UNC as an example since they were a low seed on the men's side. Like if UNC had been playing St. Peters or even a higher seed like Purdue in Raleigh, you'd just chalk it up to weird luck since they were a low seed. SI
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03-29-2022, 09:39 AM | #418 | |
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A clear screw job by the NCAA selection committee. One of two things should have happened: 1. UConn as a #1 seed, playing in the Bridgeport regional with Louisville as the #2 seed in that regional. NC State as a #1 seed in the Wichita regional. 2. UConn as a #2 seed, playing in the Wichita Regional with Louisville as the #1 seed. The first scenario is probably what should have happened. Louisville lost to NC State during the regular season and didn't even make it to the ACC Championship game. Either way, you don't give a #2 seed a defacto home game against a #1 seed in a regional final. Last edited by Vegas Vic : 03-29-2022 at 10:40 AM. |
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03-29-2022, 10:34 PM | #419 | |
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They said it was something about the S-Curve, but you all know that it was about the revenue curve. The Athletic covered it. Essentially "we're too cheap to send them elsewhere" and also "cash rules everything.." I don't know how anyone in that room didn't speak up, but...so it goes.
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03-30-2022, 07:01 AM | #420 |
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Hey! We've reached some semblance of equality. The committee arbitrarily trots out the s-curve mostly for bs reasons in both men's /and/ women's basketball as it's clear they don't apply it fairly for either
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03-30-2022, 03:46 PM | #421 | |
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What's left out is how the committee cherry-picks their own NET ratings, which are supposed to be the primary analytic for the overall seeds of the 68 teams. NC State won the ACC regular-season and tournament championships. They were a clear No. 2 in the NET, and only South Carolina has a better record against top-25 NET opponents. In fact, the final NET rankings had 1. South Carolina, 2. NC State, 3. Stanford and 4. UConn. So they slide NC State into the #3 overall seed and Stanford into #2 overall. Move UConn down to #6. After the reverse engineering has concluded, they say "Well, when we placed the teams in the regionals, we were just following the S-Curve. Bridgeport was the closest regional for NC State, and since UConn was the #6 overall seed they were paired with NC State". How convenient. Last edited by Vegas Vic : 03-30-2022 at 04:09 PM. |
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Guess what? If you dont lose you become the national champion.
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03-30-2022, 09:09 PM | #424 | |
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I see. So there was no conscious effort to flip-flop NC State and Stanford at #2 and #3 and bump UCONN down to #6 so that they could conveniently say they were just following the protocol for placing the seeds. For a minute, I thought there might have been some seed manipulation going on there to ensure that UCONN got to play in the Bridgeport Regional. I'm glad to see that it was just mere coincidence. Last edited by Vegas Vic : 03-30-2022 at 09:12 PM. |
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Coastal will have to wait until Friday because the weather has been so bad in the South, Fresno State couldn't get here for Thursday's game, which is probably a good thing because we are supposed to get our share of wind and rain today anyway.
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And the party's over They were down most of the game, and for a lot of the second half by 20, but pulled back to 7 before Fresno took control again and won 85-74. I wasn't expecting a postseason for this team, let alone making it to the Finals, so pretty happy with how their season ended.
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It will never be any better for Tar Heel fans.
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It seems really weird to say that the national championship game is house money. But that’s how it feels. Kansas could win by 20 on Monday, and I’m still smiling ear to ear about this season.
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A kid in one of my classes told me, before the start of the tourney, that Iowa would lose in the 1st and NC was going to win it all.
Rain man.
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I'd be very happy if the team felt that way, too. I'd be fine to settle for a natty as a "consolation prize" and makeup for losing the tournament in 2020 SI
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Coach K losing his last game makes the whole tourny worthwhile.
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Another quirk of the Final Four: Both teams in the national championship game tomorrow night are coached by guys who succeeded Roy Williams.
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It's the Huckleberry Hound Bowl!
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Wow. Guess I just don't get the hate but, almost every coach loses their last game? I would get it if they lost in the second round or something.
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Despite the link title, the interesting part is what's currently at the top of it: how there are only eight major sport coaches who won their final game John Wooden, Bill Walsh, Scotty Bowman, Al McGuire, Tom Osborne, Red Auerbach, Toe Blake, and Buck Shaw. Kansas vs. North Carolina predictions, expert picks: NCAA championship 2022 odds, spread for March Madness - CBSSports.com
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Is there an article about that subject? I assume this is limited to coaches in championship games, not just final game ever right?
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04-04-2022, 07:34 AM | #439 |
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Jim Caldwell won his last game.
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The math on that is interesting and something I had not thought about.
Every year, half the teams would lose their final regular season game. Then, out of the ones who won their final regular season game and made the playoffs, only one of those would win their final game. So I guess in every given year, most teams/coaches will lose their final game. The only ones who won't will be the ones who (1) didn't make the playoffs but randomly won their last regular season game, or (2) won the title. Historically, you would have a better return in baseball (less teams make playoffs) and old-time college football (no playoffs). Last edited by albionmoonlight : 04-04-2022 at 08:04 AM. |
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If you count bowl games as basically winning the last regular season game but not making a playoff, the number increases quite a bit, I would assume.
For instance, Bobby Bowden won his last game, but it was a glorified exhibition.
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The fact that a sports title game starts at 9:20 EST is ridiculous.
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Someone needs to talk to MLB about this, too SI
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I hate to say that I am rooting for Kansas, but the alternative is way worse.
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In true Lexington fashion, it has been noted multiple times the past couple days that UK beat both of these teams on neutral or away floors by a combined 47 points and one of the news stations ran a poll asking which team you want to see lose more.
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Has anyone coined the term Auto-Manek yet?
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would be nice if Kansas could make a lay up
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It looks like the lid came off the basket (finally) SI
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YES!!!
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