Official 2015 College Football bowl and awards thread

[kingfc22]

So is Renfro Brady's next slot receiver?

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It came off pretty poorly, fwiw. It didn't read with any light-hearted jab at all IMO.

And nearly prompted a major heartfelt response directed at the profession as a whole.

So let me get this straight...it's ok to make comments (correct or not) at the officials...but when I make a jab back, it's not allowed?

[JPhillips]

Has there ever been a study on whether the increased rate of fumbles outweighs the extra yards given up on all of those strip "tackles"?

[Edward64]

Pretty good game.

[Easy Mac]

We've seen the one part of his game Watson doesn't have yet: touch on his throws.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

So let me get this straight...it's ok to make comments (correct or not) at the officials...but when I make a jab back, it's not allowed?

You're welcome to post whatever.

A lot of profession take hits, mine among them.

But defending the indefensible is probably a fool's errand. And that's how a great number of people view sports officiating on the whole: with a reputation for proficiency that is about on par with Congress.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So is Renfro Brady's next slot receiver?

I thought the same thing

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

He's trying to argue that his player did not have an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick and it should have been KCI.

How does that work.

Also, we need to do a ref podcast, call it Ask the Sak.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So is Renfro Brady's next slot receiver?

He's a freshman. Is Brady still around?

[MrBug708]

Geez. Special Teams..

[Easy Mac]

This is why I don't bet. I at least would have hit the over

[kingfc22]

Special teams has been one sided and thus the outcome we have.

[bhlloy]

Now hiring, Clemson special teams coordinator

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

You're welcome to post whatever.

A lot of profession take hits, mine among them.

But defending the indefensible is probably a fool's errand. And that's how a great number of people view sports officiating on the whole: with a reputation for proficiency that is about on par with Congress.

So Congress is right 95-98% of the time? Because on average an officiating crew gets 95-98% of the plays right a game.

And your other comment about defending the indefensible only holds true if the person who is being critical actually is correct.

[jbergey22]

Speaking of Refs, they missed 3 holds on the kickoff return that decided this game. Half of Clemsons team ended up on their back.

[Balldog]

Almost looks like he lost control of the ball before he broke the plain...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

So Congress is right 95-98% of the time? Because on average an officiating crew gets 95-98% of the plays right a game.

Uh huh. You keep buying that if it makes you feel better, that's cool. Carry on.

Leagues/conferences don't have an interest in admitting the common & frequent incompetence. Officials grading themselves certainly don't and has zero credibility afaic.

But, hey, whatever works for you.

[Marmel]

The only thing wrong more often than refs (besides sak of course!) is troy.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

How does that work.

Also, we need to do a ref podcast, call it Ask the Sak.

Until the ball hits the ground on a kick...whether it be a Free Kick or Scrimmage Kick...the Receiving team has to have an unimpeded opportunity to catch it. The issue is that the receiving team actually has to be able to catch the kick which in the case here....even if Alabama didn't catch it out of the air...no way the player from Clemson would have caught it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Speaking of Refs, they missed 3 holds on the kickoff return that decided this game. Half of Clemsons team ended up on their back.

And nearly half the runs that Watson has made to the outside have featured an obvious hold somewhere downfield (to the point that I'm surprised when I don't see a receiver in particular doing it).

That's the nature of the game today, the players are simply too big to be blocked consistently without someone holding somewhere.

[cuervo72]

Refs aren't perfect, but I'd like to know exactly what pool we should be pulling them from where they'd be significantly improved.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Uh huh. You keep buying that if it makes you feel better, that's cool. Carry on.

Leagues/conferences don't have an interest in admitting the common & frequent incompetence. Officials grading themselves certainly don't and has zero credibility afaic.

But, hey, whatever works for you.

Buying that...grades from the conferences directly to us reflect it. You don't make them you are gone. But keep believing what you want.

[Easy Mac]

So do you pound it with Henry here, or let Lane Kiffin get cute?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Refs aren't perfect, but I'd like to know exactly what pool we should be pulling them from where they'd be significantly improved.

it can't be done, IMO.

Too many teams = too many games. Every year the players become more athletic, the game becomes faster, and the rules become more complex. The competency pool simply isn't deep enough to keep up.

[kingfc22]

This game has been so entertaining. It has to end with Clemson getting a shot. Only fitting way to wrap this one up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

So do you pound it with Henry here, or let Lane Kiffin get cute?

Pounding it is the drill here, but that's a big challenge when this team knows it's coming.

You probably have to take at least one shot down the field

[Easy Mac]

Great call by kiffin

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Buying that...grades from the conferences directly to us reflect it. You don't make them you are gone. But keep believing what you want.

There's the thing, very clearly & distinctly: I . Don't. Trust. The. Conferences.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, THAT pun was uncalled for.

[MrBug708]

How does the TE beat you to the edge when you have that side covered?

[Easy Mac]

I think you can run now

[JonInMiddleGA]

If you had Howard & Renfro as the breakout stars for this game, please pm me lottery number for Wednesday.

[Easy Mac]

JakeCoker4Heisman

[bhlloy]

Clemson should have won this. Completely self destructed on special teams and defense when it mattered

[JonInMiddleGA]

Credit Kiffin with a couple of play calls here ... but it came down to execution.

[Edward64]

Great goal line defense so far.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

it can't be done, IMO.

Too many teams = too many games. Every year the players become more athletic, the game becomes faster, and the rules become more complex. The competency pool simply isn't deep enough to keep up.

I agree, but with that in mind I figure there's little point in bashing them for trying to do what is increasingly an impossible task. I figure my blood pressure is better off accepting it for what it is.

[MrBug708]

He probably did get across. But if he didn't, you go for it anyways right? On the 1/2 yard line?

[Edward64]

I would.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I . Don't. Trust. The. Conferences.

Although...no, I don't particularly either. Too much money involved.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

He probably did get across. But if he didn't, you go for it anyways right? On the 1/2 yard line?

u kick. go up 8. Make them score with a 2 point conversion. Why take the risk of not scoring and losing it on a fluke play?

[Edward64]

Great game. Kudos to Clemson.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

He probably did get across. But if he didn't, you go for it anyways right? On the 1/2 yard line?

I'd want the 8 point lead so nothing fucked up can happen to cause a loss in regulation.

[MrBug708]

Ah yes. My math was about as stellar as the powerball 4.33 million math question

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Radii

I'd want the 8 point lead so nothing fucked up can happen to cause a loss in regulation.

You absolutely had to go for it there if necessary.

I don't think Saban would have kicked honestly. He's, uh, had a bad moment on an unlikely field goal situation.

[TroyF]

Ugh, ugh, ugh.

Saban and Kiffin with a national title. I just threw up in my mouth, a lot. Douche bags unite. I'm guessing they signed the same scumbag deal with the devil that Carroll did. Yuk.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

JakeCoker4Heisman

I take mccaffery.

[Kodos]

Sorry, CU. Your team put up a great fight. Couple of blown coverages away from a win.

[Edward64]

Onside kick coming up. Com'on Bama, don't mess this up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nothing but respect for Clemson's effort or performance.

I was wrong about them, they were able to compete more than ably.