Trump Indictment/Trial thread-2023

[Edward64]

And who can forget

Copa, Copacabana
His name was Rico
He wore a diamond
He was escorted to his chair, he saw Lola dancing there
And when she finished,he called her over
But Rico went a bit to far
Tony sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gun shot
But just who shot who?

[albionmoonlight]

dola

I mean, say he decided not to run again. He'd be holding rallies in Red America where he could just trash Biden, and the crowd would be chanting "Run Again! Run Again!"

And every GOP hopeful would be coming by constantly to kiss his ring and tell him how great he is and beg for his endorsement.

It would be the life he always wanted. And he had it. In hand. And he couldn't keep it.

Shakespeare-level fatal flaw.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola

I mean, say he decided not to run again. He'd be holding rallies in Red America where he could just trash Biden, and the crowd would be chanting "Run Again! Run Again!"

And every GOP hopeful would be coming by constantly to kiss his ring and tell him how great he is and beg for his endorsement.

It would be the life he always wanted. And he had it. In hand. And he couldn't keep it.

Shakespeare-level fatal flaw.

Heck, without the post-election craziness he would have a much better chance of winning in 2024.

[Edward64]

Hope they do a GA poll soon on the indictment. I'd like to know the split

[GrantDawg]

dola: I wonder how Lin Wood didn't get an indictment?

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Couldn't quite place where my quote came from, then unearthed this memory.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I get that it was not in his nature to do this, but if he had just conceded the election and not stolen a bunch of classified documents, he'd currently be living the life of luxury and adoration as an ex-president that he's spent his whole life chasing.

Taking the docs isn't even the issue. If he had given them back he would be fine.

The damage he has done in servitude to no one but himself will be irreparable for decades.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Heck, without the post-election craziness he would have a much better chance of winning in 2024.

I would say he would be the strong favorite.

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

dola: I wonder how Lin Wood didn't get an indictment?

I suspect he is individual 1 and in cooperating.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

And in a pre-arranged interview winning the "Best Timing" award, Rachel Maddow is about to interview Hilary Clinton at 9 pm

Hilary should be smart enough to stay far away and let things run their course. I voted for her (easy decision against Trump) so it's not an anti-Hilary stance. It's that nothing good will come of it.

Originally Posted by Galaril

Yes I see democrat free media ( Trump calls them main stream media) news anchors like Maddox and CNN doing victory laps and I have PTSD from 2016. I am really concerned we wake on the day after the election in November 2024 and Trump has won Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and he is president again. Then God help us all.

As Hilary above this stuff is stupid. Just report the facts, let Trump spew his bullshit denials/threats/"perfect calls" etc. and keep digging the hole deeper. I watched a clip on youtube from msnbc and was happy to see almost somber faces along with facts. Lasted about half the clip before the reporter's smiles started to bubble up. Mocking and "I told you so's" is not the way to go here.

[Thomkal]

Funny it took him 2 and a half years to release this "damning report"


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...34198672842753

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Funny it took him 2 and a half years to release this "damning report"


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...34198672842753

In fairness, he was busy planning Infrastructure Week.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

In fairness, he was busy planning Infrastructure Week.

There really was no excuse after he released his comprehensive Healthcare plan

[Ghost Econ]

I guess The Four Seasons {retirement community} nearby was booked.

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[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Funny it took him 2 and a half years to release this "damning report"


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...34198672842753

This is like when I tell my daughter she has to clean her room today and then I check the next morning and she's like, wait don't come in yet.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

This is like when I tell my daughter she has to clean her room today and then I check the next morning and she's like, wait don't come in yet.

Ha, a Republican in the making!

[Ghost Econ]

RIGGERS!

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

RIGGERS!

I'll bet he had to fight his auto-correct pretty hard.

[GrantDawg]

Lawyers, what is most likely to derail the Georgia case? My guess is the timeline on the Jan 6 case. If the Georgia DA can hit her hopeful timeline of 6 months, that would put it right at the hopeful timeline of the Jan 6 case. That would mean the Federal case supersedes the state case right? They have the Superiority there?

[GrantDawg]

Brian Kemp's response:

The 2020 election in Georgia was not stolen.

For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward - under oath - and prove anything in a court of law. Our elections in Georgia are secure, accessible, and fair and will continue to be as long as I… pic.twitter.com/jaru2iBDo7

— Brian Kemp (@BrianKempGA) August 15, 2023

[Ghost Econ]

Kemp is trending on Twitter and the mentions are as insane and discouraging as you could imagine.

[MJ4H]

Twitter is a right-wing cesspool. Entirely as expected. Can't believe everyone (sane) hasn't just left it to rot yet.

[GrantDawg]

Never claimed I was sane.

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[GrantDawg]

Mark Meadows is the first to file asking the case be moved to Federal Court. I think it is likely to happen, at least for him and Trump.

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[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Mark Meadows is the first to file asking the case be moved to Federal Court. I think it is likely to happen, at least for him and Trump.

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I know less than nothing about law, so take it with a few tons of salt, but have read that even if the case moves to federal court it will still be tried according to Georgia law and pardon is practically impossible.

[GrantDawg]

Yeah, it just widens the jury pool and increases the chance he gets a more favorable judge. Reading more about it, it look like Meadows and Clark will have a good shot at getting it moved to a Federal Court. Trump might have more of an issue because one of his charges stems from actions after he left office.

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[RainMaker]

Not versed on the law but isn't it to protect federal employees that do something in their official job. Like if California wanted to charge a President with involuntary manslaughter because a decision they made on forest management led to the death of people in a fire.

These crimes were committed outside their official roles.

[RainMaker]

I also find it funny how these people are learning how fucked up conspiracy charges can be in this country. Government used to do some incredibly sketchy shit to charge people who maybe took a message for a drug dealer or let a criminal rent a room from them.Now when conspiracy is used against them, they're up in arms about how unfair it is.

[miami_fan]

This had a chance to be one of the greatest sentence ever written and the one to optimize this story. If we ever get anything close to an accurate portrayal of history, I hope someone makes the necessary edits.

Original.

This is not the first major RICO case filed by Willis since taking office in 2021. In May 2022, she brought charges against 26 individuals including the Grammy Award-winning rap artist Jeffery Williams, also known as Young Thug, for allegedly leading a violent street gang known as Young Slime Life (YSL). Williams, like Trump, maintains he is innocent.

This is not the first major RICO case filed by Willis since taking office in 2021. In May 2022, she brought charges against 26 individuals including the Grammy Award-winning rap artist Jeffery Williams, also known as Young Thug, for allegedly leading a violent street gang known as Young Slime Life (YSL). Thug, like Trump, maintains he is innocent.

[GrantDawg]

She also used RICO (successfully I might add) in the Atlanta Public School cheating scandle.

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[RainMaker]

Aren't they using it against protestors of cop city?

[GrantDawg]

DA asking for a March 4th date.


[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Aren't they using it against protestors of cop city?

Yes. The charges that are based on the bail fund.

[Ksyrup]

I'm sure this is fine.

BREAKING: Trump supporters are targeting members of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and his 18 codefendants.

One post on a fringe website even featured their home addresses.

Story with @ReporterBlayne: https://t.co/nd3Q0pNq7H

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) August 16, 2023

[Flasch186]

I’m sure that they’re just going to March over to their houses peacefully to discuss democracy

But again

You can’t assume anything from their past actions and or statements

Only what they do and only after the fact and maybe in courts to figure out the intentions


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[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm sure this is fine.

BREAKING: Trump supporters are targeting members of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and his 18 codefendants.

One post on a fringe website even featured their home addresses.

Story with @ReporterBlayne: https://t.co/nd3Q0pNq7H

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) August 16, 2023

something something both sides.....

[Lathum]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-leg...y?id=102336380

SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!

[PilotMan]

All it does is feed the narrative and that's what his people want, and what drives Qanon.


All they need is *part of the story. They use imagination, and fill in the rest of the blanks with information that "fits" their narrative, so it all makes sense.

That's what drives all conspiracies frankly. Sort of like a game of Mad Libs, where ignorance is the fill in the blank part, and they add in whatever their brain cell said that makes it fit. Then they sell that to the masses on the internet, and someone else's brain cell agrees and now you have a conspiracy.



Here, he clearly has the answers, and solutions, just like he did with healthcare and fixing every other thing, but "they" won't let him do it. So it's not his fault, he's still perfect, and someone else is the foil.

It's the entire playbook, over and over again.

[GrantDawg]

We reported as breaking news on @wsbtv at 4 that there are 2 separate investigations into threats related to indictment of President Trump. The Sheriff is investigating threats made to members of the Grand Jury & the FBI is investigating threats against Fulton County officials pic.twitter.com/nKTM8wQbK5

— Justin Gray (@JustinGrayWSB) August 17, 2023

[GrantDawg]

Trump has filed is suggested timeline for the Jan 6 trial. He proposes the trial to start in April.....2026.

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[GrantDawg]

So like Infrastructure week and his health plan, the proof of election fraud presser is not happening either.

Trump cancels his Monday news conference. He has never produced any evidence of election fraud from 2020. pic.twitter.com/p3tqY4exPs

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) August 18, 2023

[GrantDawg]

They actually set a bond in Fulton County. They also set bond conditions that I will guess he will break by this evening.

ALERT: Judge sets Donald Trump's bond in Fulton County, Georgia at $200,000

Order: "Defendant may post bond as cash, through commercial surety, or through the Fulton County Jail 10% program"

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) August 21, 2023

[Lathum]

He will break them by the time his car hits the first stoplight.

[Thomkal]

As he gets ready to turn himself in on Thursday, he is what he had to say about the bail conditions:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...32068693049452

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

As he gets ready to turn himself in on Thursday, he is what he had to say about the bail conditions:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...32068693049452

He can't help but post whatever is flitting through his brain, so he has definitely contemplated running.

Staying and fighting is still probably the smart strategic play for him, but it is interesting that running has crossed his mind.

[Thomkal]

John Eastman has been booked in Georgia after having to ask to pause his disbarment proceedings in CA because he had to turn himself in.

[GrantDawg]

Listening to court action, it is never great when a defendant needs a continuance because they have to answer to another court.

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[Thomkal]

Fani Willis not fooling around with defendants who want to delay or move their arraingment to federal court:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...78992817533428

[NobodyHere]

Prosecutors: Trump Mar-a-Lago security aide flipped after changing lawyers - POLITICO

[Thomkal]

Sounds like most of the GA defendants are being booked today-Rudy, Sidney Powell. DA Willis holding firm on Jeff Clark and Mark Meadows who are still trying to fight it.

[JPhillips]

The emails showing contacts between the Secret Service and the Oathkeepers should be a major scandal.