2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 3

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by rowech

I'm assuming you were rooting for them in the 80s and early 90s when they were the ones getting every call.

That's right trooper!

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

This is clearly a solid justification for potentially bad calls.

No, but it's a solid justification for no one else giving a shit.

[Desnudo]

Throw it lol. Sure nance.

[Buccaneer]

Geez, this thread turned into a whiny Niners/Broncos bitch-fest.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Geez, this thread turned into a whiny Niners/Broncos bitch-fest.

I think you combine the hatred 49ers fans have for the Seahawks with a 49ers loss and you get uber bitch-fest

[Sun Tzu]

[Butter]

Damn he throws that a little harder and that's a completion.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Nah. The Haws don't get PI called in Seattle. Everyone knows this.

Harbaugh's head is literally going to explode in the post game press conference. That's two games that have been completely taken over by the officiating crew in the second half. I've watched every 49er game since 1988, and I have never seen officiating be anything remotely close to this bad. Just...wow.

Or since 2012, anyway.

[Desnudo]

Adult Seahawks fan wearing receiving gloves just made my viewing afternoon

[JPhillips]

Yeah, this would have made for a much better Super Bowl.

[Vince, Pt. II]

What a drive.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Or since 2012, anyway.

Wait, no - later in 2012.

[Butter]

Wow

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by TroyF

2 time outs, plus the two minute warning. If you stop them and force a FG, it's an 8 point lead. VERY small chance, but a chance.

[TroyF]

VERY small chance, but a chance.

"Would you say it was a million to one"
"Well then it's automatic"

If you read Pratchett, you'll recognize that from many of the Discworld novels.

[TroyF]

So, I'm selling my house and people came to see it right after Lynch had the 10 yard run after the INT. I listened to everything up to the two point conversion on the radio. Made it inside to see Thomas make the grab to send it to OT.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Adult Seahawks fan wearing receiving gloves just made my viewing afternoon

Try going to a game there (I went to the 49ers/Seahawks game in 2011). The fans genuinely believe it's them that's loud, not the stadium. As in God graced them (seriously) with special vocal chords to cheer on the team. It's beyond fanatical up there.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Try going to a game there (I went to the 49ers/Seahawks game in 2011). The fans genuinely believe it's them that's loud, not the stadium. As in God graced them (seriously) with special vocal chords to cheer on the team. It's beyond fanatical up there.

You're such a hater.

I've been there several times, those fans earn every bit of the hype they get.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Lathum

You're such a hater.

I've been there several times, those fans earn every bit of the hype they get.

I didn't express an opinion on that post, other than the "fanatical" thing. What part am I hating on? The "blessed" thing? I'm just quoting.

[JPhillips]

Woah, defensive holding gets applied after the result of the play?

[Vince, Pt. II]

Russell Wilson has about 110 yards rushing on this drive.

[TroyF]

Irony of all irony, Denver gets a defensive holding.

I'd cry, but what would be the point? Head locks are ok on receivers, but whatever Denver did isn't.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Woah, defensive holding gets applied after the result of the play?

Yeah I had the same thought. That seemed wrong.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Yeah I had the same thought. That seemed wrong.

It is wrong.

[TroyF]

Denver fading badly. I don't think they'll be able to keep Seattle out of the end zone here. Was much more confident last week against the Chiefs. Wilson is just too damned good.

[stevew]

The way Harvin runs with the ball after the catch is amazing.

[Abe Sargent]

And now that's game

[Sun Tzu]

C'mon guys. You all act like you've never watched a game played in Seattle before. I've been seeing this shit for a decade now. Nothing has changed.

[TroyF]

Oh well. Great game. Would be nice to play in a spot where they actually call things like PI, defensive holding, offensive holding and other cool things.

Pete Carroll can go F himself.

[Jas_lov]

I hope they tweak the OT format again so the other team gets a chance to match the score. Would have been nice to see Peyton get another shot.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Geez, this thread turned into a whiny Niners/Broncos bitch-fest.

Otherwise known as "4pm every Sunday" (that one of them isn't in prime time or on the east coast, that is)

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Oh well. Great game. Would be nice to play in a spot where they actually call things like PI, defensive holding, offensive holding and other cool things.

Pete Carroll can go F himself.

That's one thing patriots and Broncos fans can agree on

[Sun Tzu]

It seems to me the Refs take on one of two mindsets when they go into a game:

1.) Completely take over the game.

or

2.) Don't call anything, no matter what happens.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Yeah I had the same thought. That seemed wrong.

I'd love Sak to weigh in if he knows the NFL rule.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Radii

Otherwise known as "4pm every Sunday" (that one of them isn't in prime time or on the east coast, that is)

Yeah, I know. I always view this weekly thread as a fun online version of RedZone, when not dominated by penalty complainers or bad player behaviors (on/off field).

[Sun Tzu]

[Sun Tzu]

Taunting.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Yeah, I know. I always view this weekly thread as a fun online version of RedZone, when not dominated by penalty complainers or bad player behaviors (on/off field).

I watched the Niners game, they were screwed repeatedly. Denver was screwed repeatedly as well. Offsides allowed to stand. Headlock=good defensive play, not PI. Repeated poor calls capped by a defensive holding call on a critical play for Seattle.

The game was pretty much even and the calls did have an impact. (the offside non call was one of the worst non calls you will see this year in any game) The PI against the 49ers that locked the victory for Arizona was comically bad.

Those are simply facts. it doesn't change the results, but it's funny how few people really care about getting a call for their team. I do and have went on the record screaming at garbage calls that went the way of Denver on multiple occasions.

I don't care. I'm a whiner. I'll live with it. At least I whine for both sides.

[gstelmack]

I saw one of the replays of Manning's tying TD throw, and the view was from the endzone right at Manning. On the right side of the TV screen you can watch a Broncos' lineman try to rip the head off the pass rusher, twisting him right to the ground. Lots of missed calls in general.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Woah, defensive holding gets applied after the result of the play?

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Yeah I had the same thought. That seemed wrong.

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'd love Sak to weigh in if he knows the NFL rule.

It's part of the 3 and 1 rule. When the team not in possession commits a foul either behind or beyond the basic spot, the penalty is enforced at the basic spot.

Assuming this is a running play (a completed pass is considered a pass followed by a running play when it's possessed), the basic spot is the previous spot when the run ends behind the neutral zone....end of the related run when it ends beyond the neutral zone.

That's why it was tacked on.

If the pass was incomplete it would have fallen under a pure pass play and the basic spot for enforcement would be the previous spot.

[Thomkal]

Cards/Niners game was like a "Tale of Two Halves"-Cards couldm't stop anyone and Kaepernick was in complete control. Then they switched uniforms at the half or something because the Cards looked like a totally different team-and the Niners lost all control, especially when the flags started flying.

Really was surprised by Stanton this game-looks like they opened the playbook for him compared to last week. Had a lot of zip on his passes, and accuracy too-no INT's in either game. Seems to have a good chemistry with Floyd and Brown, and was not afraid to step up and take big hits in the pocket.

I'm not usually one who concentrates on penalties-I don't know enough about the rules to give my opinion on most of them, so all I can say rightly or wrongly the 49ers let them get to them from the coach on down. It was getting pretty ridiculous when it was something like 34 yards to get back to the goal line after penalties backed the Niners up that far. The blocked FG attempt then was the real dagger to the chest I thought.

So my beloved Cards are somehow one of the last of the undefeated with a backup QB and a defense that only sometimes echoes the defense of last season. Leading the NFC West by themselves after just 3 games. Now they get a bye to hopefully let Carson Palmer recover from his injury and what seems a backup who can take over until he does.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

It's part of the 3 and 1 rule. When the team not in possession commits a foul either behind or beyond the basic spot, the penalty is enforced at the basic spot.

Assuming this is a running play (a completed pass is considered a pass followed by a running play when it's possessed), the basic spot is the previous spot when the run ends behind the neutral zone....end of the related run when it ends beyond the neutral zone.

That's why it was tacked on.

If the pass was incomplete it would have fallen under a pure pass play and the basic spot for enforcement would be the previous spot.

Thanks. I'm not sure I completely understand, but I basically get it. I thought it was always either/or not both.

[stevew]

Philly Brown sounds like a made up character in a sports movie.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I watched the Niners game, they were screwed repeatedly. Denver was screwed repeatedly as well. Offsides allowed to stand. Headlock=good defensive play, not PI. Repeated poor calls capped by a defensive holding call on a critical play for Seattle.

The game was pretty much even and the calls did have an impact. (the offside non call was one of the worst non calls you will see this year in any game) The PI against the 49ers that locked the victory for Arizona was comically bad.

Those are simply facts. it doesn't change the results, but it's funny how few people really care about getting a call for their team. I do and have went on the record screaming at garbage calls that went the way of Denver on multiple occasions.

I don't care. I'm a whiner. I'll live with it. At least I whine for both sides.

Sounds like you get way too stressed watching football games and get angry at things you cannot control.

[NobodyHere]

So who has the bigger trade value at this point, Kirk Cousins or RGIII?

[Radii]

13 points is probably just too much to overcome, I mean there's only 26 minutes left, no one can score that much, right?

Cam's ankle isn't right I don't think, he's gotten hit a lot the last couple weeks. Also, the fact that Byron Bell is the left tackle can't be helping.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

So who has the bigger trade value at this point, Kirk Cousins or RGIII?

It's a conversation I'll be enjoying on 980 for the next X weeks.

I don't know if I'm sold on him. Yes, he lit it up this week but he still had some bad passes and didn't show all that well at the end of last year. Of course the locals will probably go wild for him. As a divisional opponent, I don't know if I exactly fear him yet though. Today may have just been lightning in a bottle (heck, McNabb had a couple of those while in WAS and was then run out of town on a rail).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by stevew

Philly Brown sounds like a made up character in a sports movie.

My name is Philly Brown ... Northwest Southeastern State University

[JPhillips]

Yikes. It looks like Ike Taylor just had the bones in his lower arm broken cleanly.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

So who has the bigger trade value at this point, Kirk Cousins or RGIII?

I can't imagine RG3 has any value given his performance and injuries.