2015 NFL Week 4

Grover · 10-01-2015, 01:32 PM

About time for the thread.

Do Michael Vick and the Steelers send the Ravens to 0-4? Or can Flacco get a big passing game going against a below-average Steelers secondary?

albionmoonlight · 10-01-2015, 02:06 PM

I like the Steelers here. Bell and Brown are the real deal. I think that the team can overcome Vick.

Baltimore seems to be a legit 0-3. Other than Steve Smith, I am not sure what they do well. They miss the hell out of Kubiak.

n.b. I am currently in last place in my office picks league.

Butter · 10-01-2015, 02:18 PM

Let's go Ravens! *clap clap clapclapclap*

stevew · 10-01-2015, 04:18 PM

Below average Steelers secondary is overrating them. They flat out make diaper loads.

Grover · 10-01-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Below average Steelers secondary is overrating them. They flat out make diaper loads.

Well, they're ranked 19th right now, so they are slightly below average

stevew · 10-01-2015, 04:40 PM

Eh, I see them as 29th vs completion % and qb rating. I know those aren't the best metrics, but they're definitely not good and the DBs are useless DBs

BishopMVP · 10-01-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Eh, I see them as 29th vs completion % and qb rating. I know those aren't the best metrics, but they're definitely not good and the DBs are useless DBs

They matched up against the Patriots in one of their 3 games. A game vs a team where Kamar Aiken is the #2 WR will probably help those stats. But I do agree they're not good at all. Chip Kelly might've been right getting rid of Boykin.

RomaGoth · 10-01-2015, 06:24 PM

Go Lions...

Grover · 10-01-2015, 06:29 PM

The overall fan in me desperately wants to see the Ravens fall to 0-4.

The Bengals fan side of me wants the Ravens to get that first win to give the Bengals an even better chance of opening up a wide lead in the division.

I'm conflicted by the two teams I hate most.

claphamsa · 10-01-2015, 07:59 PM

go meteor strike!

stevew · 10-01-2015, 08:54 PM

Oh geez, pink shit all month again

Dutch · 10-01-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Oh geez, pink shit all month again

I know right...can't we just do a telethon at the beginning of the year to raise money for Breast Cancer Awereness with the promise not to dress our football players up in hot pink?

bhlloy · 10-01-2015, 09:16 PM

You guys are just cynical. What better way is there to support breast cancer research than to buy a $150 pink jersey that the NFL will donate at least a couple bucks of to the cause?

stevew · 10-01-2015, 09:25 PM

Pretty sure they just captured Ben on the sidelines with a cellphone out. Isn't that illegal

cuervo72 · 10-01-2015, 09:27 PM

I was wondering about that - he looked like he was looking around to see if anyone was watching him.

stevew · 10-01-2015, 09:30 PM

How in the fuck did they miss that hold

Dutch · 10-01-2015, 09:36 PM

haha, might be a little later there, Sparky.

EagleFan · 10-01-2015, 09:50 PM

Wow, he dropped the ball because he wasn't used to the spin... not that he just flat out dropped a ball that he should have caught... it happens, let's stop making excuses.

EagleFan · 10-01-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Oh geez, pink shit all month again

That time of year again...

Solecismic · 10-01-2015, 10:04 PM

How much does Pepto Bismol pay them to wear that stuff?

The spin is a big part of the reason why Vick and (as of this week) Kellen Moore are the only two lefty quarterbacks currently on NFL rosters.

stevew · 10-01-2015, 10:08 PM

Cam Heyward is really good.

bhlloy · 10-01-2015, 10:51 PM

I like to think nobody told Heyward-Bey he was supposed to catch the ball until this year. He's been playing run as fast as you can to the end zone in previous years and wondering why he's never been an all star

stevew · 10-01-2015, 10:55 PM

Dri Archer is the best touchback catcher in the league

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:08 PM

Finally an end to Antonio Brown's 5/50 streak. AKA the most made up stat streak ever.

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:11 PM

Shawn Spence is having a game

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:20 PM

Josh Scobee better be unemployed tomorrow

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2015, 11:23 PM

OT baby

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:33 PM

Geez. End this now Flacco

SirFozzie · 10-01-2015, 11:36 PM

Can we all root for a giant meteor to strike Three Rivers?

Solecismic · 10-01-2015, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Can we all root for a giant meteor to strike Three Rivers?

Three Rivers Stadium Implosion - YouTube

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:37 PM

Three Rivers already was demoed

SirFozzie · 10-01-2015, 11:40 PM

Ok, Heinz Field :P

SirFozzie · 10-01-2015, 11:42 PM

Scobee is like "Please God don't send me out there again".

Which, coincidentally mimics all the Pittsburgh fans thoughts of "Please God do not send Scobee out there again."

Solecismic · 10-01-2015, 11:45 PM

If I were a Scobee, I would definitely want to go out there again - the alternative is probably the end of his season. Obviously, Tomlin has no confidence left, for good reason.

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2015, 11:49 PM

And there it is for the Ravens

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Ok, Heinz Field :P

Bane

Dutch · 10-01-2015, 11:52 PM

IRT Scobee - they weren't horribly off-line. No way he misses 4 in a row...IMHO.

stevew · 10-01-2015, 11:53 PM

Wind vs the Ball is an interesting dilemma at heinz

Vince, Pt. II · 10-02-2015, 02:56 AM

There's a headline on Yahoo right now that reads 'Not a single NFL player arrested in September.' Apparently it's the first time a full calendar month has gone by in six years without an NFL player being arrested. That seems ridiculous. Other ridiculous facts that I've found and not corroborated yet:

-Months without an NFL player being arrested, last 11 years: Sept. 2015, July 2009. That's it.

-September is the first month during the season that a player hasn't been arrested in 15 years.

-Over the last 5 years, the NFL has averaged one player arrested per week.

These are all tweets of Mike Rosenberg of Reuters, apparently. Found them on Yahoo and CBS.

Butter · 10-02-2015, 07:57 AM

Those 2 teams looked terrible last night.

I just have this awful feeling that the Steelers will end up drafting Cardale Jones and end up with pretty much the same offense for another 15 years after Big Ben retires. Cardale is pretty much the same QB, only more mobile. He just needs to get more accurate.

Grover · 10-02-2015, 08:10 AM

Jeff Reed on Twitter: "Let's keep this simple...bring me back Pittsburgh!"

What does Scobee have to do to get cut?

BishopMVP · 10-02-2015, 08:32 AM

I don't know what it is, but this seems like a crazy run of endings in almost all the national games so far. No early blowouts.

I can accept Tomlin's decision not to kick it, but I really question putting it in his backup QB's hands on both 4th & 2's instead of handing it off to Le'Veon Bell, especially given the night he was having.

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Ok, Heinz Field :P

Why? I like stadiums that have a little bit of personality rather than everything being cookie cutter and antiseptic. Plus it's a pretty awesome setup in Pittsburgh with Heinz, PNC, and a casino all in one area right across the river from downtown. Much better than Gillette being an hour away from.Boston, pretty much off public transportation.

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Those 2 teams looked terrible last night.

I just have this awful feeling that the Steelers will end up drafting Cardale Jones and end up with pretty much the same offense for another 15 years after Big Ben retires. Cardale is pretty much the same QB, only more mobile. He just needs to get more accurate.

Makes a lot more sense than people talking about Jones as the #1 overall pick.

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

There's a headline on Yahoo right now that reads 'Not a single NFL player arrested in September.' Apparently it's the first time a full calendar month has gone by in six years without an NFL player being arrested. That seems ridiculous. Other ridiculous facts that I've found and not corroborated yet:

What's the average arrest rate for any random sample of 1800 males between 20 & 30, the majority of whom are black?

cuervo72 · 10-02-2015, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Plus it's a pretty awesome setup in Pittsburgh with Heinz, PNC, and a casino all in one area right across the river from downtown.

Went there for a few Pirates games a couple of years ago and agreed - they have a fantastic complex there. (Baltimore's isn't bad either, though they lack the river and nice yellow bridges.)

BishopMVP · 10-02-2015, 09:23 AM

Btw, Carolina fans, what's the deal with Cam Artis-Payne? I really liked him as a sleeper that could be a starter by next year, but the week 1 scratch scared me. Is his 3 carry game last week a sign they're slowly working him in, and he'll be the man if Stewart goes down? Or would they go with Tolbert everywhere, not just the goal line?

PilotMan · 10-02-2015, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Jeff Reed on Twitter: "Let's keep this simple...bring me back Pittsburgh!"

What does Scobee have to do to get cut?

I'm thinking he will. I think that Tomlin not sending him out at the end was indication that it was over. Having said that, no way in the seven hells, should they bring back Reed, who incidentally was recently tossed out of the preseason Hall of Fame game (as a fan) for being drunk. I think he burned that bridge when he left the first time.

miami_fan · 10-02-2015, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

There's a headline on Yahoo right now that reads 'Not a single NFL player arrested in September.' Apparently it's the first time a full calendar month has gone by in six years without an NFL player being arrested. That seems ridiculous. Other ridiculous facts that I've found and not corroborated yet:

-Months without an NFL player being arrested, last 11 years: Sept. 2015, July 2009. That's it.

-September is the first month during the season that a player hasn't been arrested in 15 years.

-Over the last 5 years, the NFL has averaged one player arrested per week.

These are all tweets of Mike Rosenberg of Reuters, apparently. Found them on Yahoo and CBS.

Pro Football Talk has a counter for the number of days since the last NFL arrest. 37 days since Ahmad Brooks was arrested.

stevew · 10-02-2015, 12:01 PM

Big Ben still has 4 more years left on his deal after this one. No way they even think about a replacement QB until 2018 or so

Butter · 10-02-2015, 12:57 PM

They're going to need a backup at some point, unless you really think Mike Vick is the long term answer.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-02-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

They're going to need a backup at some point, unless you really think Mike Vick is the long term answer.

Based on his performance last night, no. Mike Vick does not appear to be the long term answer. He wasn't very good last night.

Kodos · 10-02-2015, 01:06 PM

It's been a long time since Vick did much good on the field. Can't say I feel sorry for him.

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I was wondering about that - he looked like he was looking around to see if anyone was watching him. __________________ null

10-01-2015, 02:06 PM	#2
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I like the Steelers here. Bell and Brown are the real deal. I think that the team can overcome Vick. Baltimore seems to be a legit 0-3. Other than Steve Smith, I am not sure what they do well. They miss the hell out of Kubiak. n.b. I am currently in last place in my office picks league.

10-01-2015, 04:18 PM	#4
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Below average Steelers secondary is overrating them. They flat out make diaper loads.

10-01-2015, 04:40 PM	#6
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Eh, I see them as 29th vs completion % and qb rating. I know those aren't the best metrics, but they're definitely not good and the DBs are useless DBs

10-01-2015, 08:54 PM	#11
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Oh geez, pink shit all month again

10-01-2015, 09:25 PM	#14
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Pretty sure they just captured Ben on the sidelines with a cellphone out. Isn't that illegal

10-01-2015, 09:30 PM	#16
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How in the fuck did they miss that hold

10-01-2015, 09:36 PM	#17
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	haha, might be a little later there, Sparky.

10-01-2015, 09:50 PM	#18
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Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	How much does Pepto Bismol pay them to wear that stuff? The spin is a big part of the reason why Vick and (as of this week) Kellen Moore are the only two lefty quarterbacks currently on NFL rosters.

10-01-2015, 10:08 PM	#21
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Cam Heyward is really good.

10-01-2015, 10:51 PM	#22
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I like to think nobody told Heyward-Bey he was supposed to catch the ball until this year. He's been playing run as fast as you can to the end zone in previous years and wondering why he's never been an all star

10-01-2015, 10:55 PM	#23
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Dri Archer is the best touchback catcher in the league

10-01-2015, 11:08 PM	#24
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Finally an end to Antonio Brown's 5/50 streak. AKA the most made up stat streak ever.

10-01-2015, 11:11 PM	#25
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Shawn Spence is having a game

10-01-2015, 11:20 PM	#26
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Josh Scobee better be unemployed tomorrow

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10-01-2015, 11:33 PM	#28
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Geez. End this now Flacco

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10-01-2015, 11:37 PM	#31
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Three Rivers already was demoed

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SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Ok, Heinz Field :P __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

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Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	If I were a Scobee, I would definitely want to go out there again - the alternative is probably the end of his season. Obviously, Tomlin has no confidence left, for good reason.

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Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	IRT Scobee - they weren't horribly off-line. No way he misses 4 in a row...IMHO. Last edited by Dutch : 10-01-2015 at 11:52 PM.

10-01-2015, 11:53 PM	#38
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Wind vs the Ball is an interesting dilemma at heinz

10-02-2015, 02:56 AM	#39
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	There's a headline on Yahoo right now that reads 'Not a single NFL player arrested in September.' Apparently it's the first time a full calendar month has gone by in six years without an NFL player being arrested. That seems ridiculous. Other ridiculous facts that I've found and not corroborated yet: -Months without an NFL player being arrested, last 11 years: Sept. 2015, July 2009. That's it. -September is the first month during the season that a player hasn't been arrested in 15 years. -Over the last 5 years, the NFL has averaged one player arrested per week. These are all tweets of Mike Rosenberg of Reuters, apparently. Found them on Yahoo and CBS.

10-02-2015, 07:57 AM	#40
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Those 2 teams looked terrible last night. I just have this awful feeling that the Steelers will end up drafting Cardale Jones and end up with pretty much the same offense for another 15 years after Big Ben retires. Cardale is pretty much the same QB, only more mobile. He just needs to get more accurate. __________________ My listening habits

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Btw, Carolina fans, what's the deal with Cam Artis-Payne? I really liked him as a sleeper that could be a starter by next year, but the week 1 scratch scared me. Is his 3 carry game last week a sign they're slowly working him in, and he'll be the man if Stewart goes down? Or would they go with Tolbert everywhere, not just the goal line?

10-02-2015, 12:01 PM	#47
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Big Ben still has 4 more years left on his deal after this one. No way they even think about a replacement QB until 2018 or so