Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread - Page 19

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I think CR's logic for PF is correct, and I suspect we should off him today. That said, I'm hoping we can do it with about half the actions available voting, as we do need to work as much as possible as quick as possible...12 units of damage is a lot more than I expected the wolves to be able to do in one night.

Leviathan?

KWhit · 01-26-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealDeal

I just scrubbed the thread and I'm going back and forth between packerfan and kwhit now as the folks most likely to be a demon.

Why me?

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

As far as work, is it also wise to focus on the wall-dependent sections now while we can? Artwork we can do any day, right?

why would this be? is there some bit in the rules that I missed about what has to be built in what order?

Tyrith · 01-26-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

why would this be? is there some bit in the rules that I missed about what has to be built in what order?

If they bust the walls again we have to stop working on the roof/windows. If we finish those now and they do break the walls again then we can fix the walls and put any extra cycles on the artwork. But if we finish the artwork and the wolves break the walls then we have to fix the walls and then wait a day before we can do anything else.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

If they bust the walls again we have to stop working on the roof/windows. If we finish those now and they do break the walls again then we can fix the walls and put any extra cycles on the artwork. But if we finish the artwork and the wolves break the walls then we have to fix the walls and then wait a day before we can do anything else.

my head hurts a little. i think i get what you're saying, but i think i need my afternoon coffee.

jeheinz72 · 01-26-2009, 01:11 PM

Yeah, Tyrith has it. Basically we've been waiting on the walls to even start on the other two. I think it's wise for us to work on those now while we can. We can always do artwork later.

jeheinz72 · 01-26-2009, 01:15 PM

WORK ROOF

jeheinz72 · 01-26-2009, 01:16 PM

I'm a bit leery of trusting CR one bit (I always am when someone posts that I'm certainly bad then certainly good that quickly, smells of someone aiming to gain trust), but, with that said, his logic for PF does make a lot of sense.

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 01:45 PM

I intend to place one vote and do one unit of work.

I will work on the roof. Are we pretty much agreeing to play the packerfanatic lynch today?

PackerFanatic · 01-26-2009, 02:04 PM

jeheinz72 · 01-26-2009, 02:29 PM

Well, make a case PF! I'm in another 2 hours and need to make my vote.

PackerFanatic · 01-26-2009, 03:05 PM

I honestly have really no case to make. I am not seeing the connection between hoops and me that CR is making, but going off of my voting record alone, I haven't looked good at all. The only upside is that I have no role that you will be losing.

VOTE CHIEF RUM
VOTE CHIEF RUM

Might as well try and go down with a blaze of glory. It just sounds a little too far fetched what he is trying to pull.

Tyrith · 01-26-2009, 04:11 PM

Well, with the level of inactivity right now, I don't see how we're going to get a lynch other than PackerFanatic, to be quite frank. I certainly don't have anything productive to say - CR's case it the best one I know of. And at this point I am pretty sure that either PF or CR is bad.

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 04:22 PM

Lynching PF is a fine course of action. Hope we're right.

WORK WALLS

WORK WALLS

WORK WALLS

Just so people understand this. First, I have three turns due to my second and last use of my baker ability of an additional turn.

This is all fake work. Do not count this toward anything. All of this will actually be dedicated to spiritual health.

jeheinz72 · 01-26-2009, 04:59 PM

Well a busy afternoon left me 2 minutes to vote before I hit the road.

I'd agree that we're likely looking at a 50/50 shot on PF and CR. I'm going with CR since while I agree with what he's saying logically, I think there is a nefarious counter-action to it.

Vote Chief Rum

Danny · 01-26-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I think that explains it. I had to go look for it myself in the first post, but i thought i had remembered something about it.

Oh, makes sense now

Danny · 01-26-2009, 05:12 PM

Not much action going on. I agree pretty much with the CR/PackerFanatic showdown. So far I've trusted CR over PF, but will do some more thinking before making my vote. If PF is the lynch and comes up good, then CR should be the lynch candidate the following day. The fact that there is this vote splitting tells me there is a likely wolf among the two.

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 05:18 PM

CR makes a good case, tons of analysis, pages of posts. Reminds me a bit too much of someone else I know....

The Jackal · 01-26-2009, 05:42 PM

Wow. I forgot it was Monday. I'll try and make a decision between CR and PF now.

The Jackal · 01-26-2009, 05:53 PM

Hmm. On second thought, I think my actions are best placed in helping finish the roof.

WORK ON ROOF
WORK ON ROOF

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 06:41 PM

alright. back from work and done with dinner. doesn't look like there's much debate going on - seems that we have a clear course of action, and either PF has been abandoned or the wolves are busy planning how to get CR free of a lynch tomorrow.

seems like based on how things are going down that i might need to lay 2 on PF though.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 06:42 PM

(continuation) in order to make sure the lynch goes down the way we seem to be in agreement we want it to (on PF). i haven't seen a recent vote count, but the votes on this page are all for CR.

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 07:02 PM

So you're saying you believe CR is good and his analysis has been for the greater good?

I keep getting confliting vibes from people's posts. I am as yet undecided.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 07:08 PM

i don't know. i had a pretty busy day, but i thought from the times i managed to peek in that that was the consensus?

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 07:32 PM

hey tyrith - you've been pretty quiet this game - what's up?

Tyrith · 01-26-2009, 07:35 PM

I've been really busy with different stuff. And, to be honest, I wanted no part with the brawl that started on Friday. And I don't know anything. I'm not really in it, in this case.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 07:37 PM

Seems to me that there's a lot of evidence against PF (laid out by people like CR). I'm not going to sit here and summarize, but it seems like it's solid reasoning. And if it's not, we can start to wonder why Chief Rum would push us in that direction so enthusiastically, so in a sense we learn potentially 2 things from one lynch I guess?

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 07:40 PM

and i know that RealDeal only has one little bit of insight (that PF is a "safe" target), but from an emotional sense, his "okaying" of a vote for PF is reassuring. there's no logic behind it, but you know?

RealDeal · 01-26-2009, 07:53 PM

Yes, DT, if I were putting a vote down this round, it would be for PF. I have a pretty good feeling about it, although not as strong as on Hoops. With Hoops, I felt comfortable because of some behavior of Hoops that seemed consistent with a prior time he had been a wolf and we had gotten strange vibes from Gabriel when discussing him.

With PF, it's really about the votes. Pretty much all of his votes have been wrong and often suspiciously. He doesn't have a role (as far as we know). Plus I remember one point where he was really insistent on doing wall work to prove he was good. Seemed a little much to me.

I'd say 80% chance he's a demon, which is higher odds than I would assign to anyone else.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 07:54 PM

i see 3 votes for CR and no votes for PF yet by my unofficial count

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 08:03 PM

whoops i missed chief's votes (they were before BK posted the start of the day)

CR - 3
PF - 2

KWhit · 01-26-2009, 08:03 PM

Vote Packerfan
Work on Windows

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 08:05 PM

Sounds good then

Vote PackerFanatic

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 08:07 PM

was hoping i'd be able to only vote once and do some work with my other action, but i guess someone else can do work on my behalf? doesn't really matter as long as the work gets done

VOTE PACKERFANATIC
VOTE PACKERFANATIC

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 08:09 PM

aargh!

assholes!

i didn't refresh after I typed it out and then hopped up to run to the bathroom.

well - looks like now we have

CR - 3
PF - 6

RendeR · 01-26-2009, 08:12 PM

Thats ok DT, better safe than sorry.

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 08:15 PM

seems like there's not much going on here - i may just go off and wargame.

i'm kicking ass as the confederacy - doing so well that in my last raising of funds i raised over a million dollars in 1862 - so I'm going to bulk shit up and invade the North!

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 08:22 PM

Seeing as how it has had no impact on today in terms of discussion and such, I am going to fix a mistake from last night.

Several people complain today of grogginess. Complain of having heard loud drunken noises outside last night. Definitely someone getting a little too drunk for their own good and roaming the streets.

Revised status of the Cathedral as of the start of the day:

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

Tyrith · 01-26-2009, 08:23 PM

Vote seems pretty fait accompli at this point.

WORK ON ROOF
WORK ON ROOF

DaddyTorgo · 01-26-2009, 08:29 PM

awesome news on the revision!

Danny · 01-26-2009, 08:43 PM

So we have 5 work done on roof and 1 on windows so far right?

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 08:49 PM

Here's what I have through 941:

Packer – CR (879), CR (879), KWhit (932), Render (933), DT (934), DT (934)
Chief – Packer (912), Packer (912), JH (915)

Roof – JH (907), Jackal (920), Jackal (920), Tyrith (Roof), Tyrith (Roof)
Walls – Real (914), Real (914), Real (914)
Windows – Kwhit (932)

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-26-2009, 08:58 PM

I'm not so sure about these votes on PF. I could be wrong, but it seems like a lot of people are willing to go with CR without really questioning his reasoning. Either way, I don't think my votes are going to switch the lynch results, so I'm going to focus entirely on building the cathedral.

WORK ON ROOF

WORK ON ROOF

Danny · 01-26-2009, 08:58 PM

Work on Roof
Work on Windows

Danny · 01-26-2009, 08:59 PM

Eh, I posted same time as Jonathan. If it is allowed, I would like to switch my Roof work to Windows.

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 09:01 PM

Not in this case, sorry.

Danny · 01-26-2009, 09:02 PM

Ok, well at least the roof better be fixed now :P

Barkeep49 · 01-26-2009, 09:02 PM

Oh and we're past deadline. Writeup shortly.

hoopsguy · 01-26-2009, 09:03 PM

I think I know the ending ...

PackerFanatic · 01-26-2009, 09:05 PM

*sigh* Oh well. Good luck villagers. I guess I should start waiting longer in the day on votes...

01-26-2009, 01:45 PM	#909
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I intend to place one vote and do one unit of work. I will work on the roof. Are we pretty much agreeing to play the packerfanatic lynch today? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 02:04 PM	#910
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	No __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

01-26-2009, 03:05 PM	#912
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I honestly have really no case to make. I am not seeing the connection between hoops and me that CR is making, but going off of my voting record alone, I haven't looked good at all. The only upside is that I have no role that you will be losing. VOTE CHIEF RUM VOTE CHIEF RUM Might as well try and go down with a blaze of glory. It just sounds a little too far fetched what he is trying to pull. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

01-26-2009, 05:18 PM	#918
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	CR makes a good case, tons of analysis, pages of posts. Reminds me a bit too much of someone else I know.... __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 07:02 PM	#923
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	So you're saying you believe CR is good and his analysis has been for the greater good? I keep getting confliting vibes from people's posts. I am as yet undecided. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 04:11 PM	#913
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well, with the level of inactivity right now, I don't see how we're going to get a lynch other than PackerFanatic, to be quite frank. I certainly don't have anything productive to say - CR's case it the best one I know of. And at this point I am pretty sure that either PF or CR is bad.

01-26-2009, 04:22 PM	#914
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Lynching PF is a fine course of action. Hope we're right. WORK WALLS WORK WALLS WORK WALLS Just so people understand this. First, I have three turns due to my second and last use of my baker ability of an additional turn. This is all fake work. Do not count this toward anything. All of this will actually be dedicated to spiritual health.

01-26-2009, 05:12 PM	#917
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not much action going on. I agree pretty much with the CR/PackerFanatic showdown. So far I've trusted CR over PF, but will do some more thinking before making my vote. If PF is the lynch and comes up good, then CR should be the lynch candidate the following day. The fact that there is this vote splitting tells me there is a likely wolf among the two.

01-26-2009, 05:42 PM	#919
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Wow. I forgot it was Monday. I'll try and make a decision between CR and PF now.

01-26-2009, 05:53 PM	#920
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Hmm. On second thought, I think my actions are best placed in helping finish the roof. WORK ON ROOF WORK ON ROOF

01-26-2009, 06:41 PM	#921
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	alright. back from work and done with dinner. doesn't look like there's much debate going on - seems that we have a clear course of action, and either PF has been abandoned or the wolves are busy planning how to get CR free of a lynch tomorrow. seems like based on how things are going down that i might need to lay 2 on PF though.

01-26-2009, 06:42 PM	#922
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	(continuation) in order to make sure the lynch goes down the way we seem to be in agreement we want it to (on PF). i haven't seen a recent vote count, but the votes on this page are all for CR.

01-26-2009, 07:08 PM	#924
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i don't know. i had a pretty busy day, but i thought from the times i managed to peek in that that was the consensus?

01-26-2009, 07:32 PM	#925
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hey tyrith - you've been pretty quiet this game - what's up?

01-26-2009, 07:35 PM	#926
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I've been really busy with different stuff. And, to be honest, I wanted no part with the brawl that started on Friday. And I don't know anything. I'm not really in it, in this case.

01-26-2009, 07:37 PM	#927
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Seems to me that there's a lot of evidence against PF (laid out by people like CR). I'm not going to sit here and summarize, but it seems like it's solid reasoning. And if it's not, we can start to wonder why Chief Rum would push us in that direction so enthusiastically, so in a sense we learn potentially 2 things from one lynch I guess?

01-26-2009, 07:40 PM	#928
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	and i know that RealDeal only has one little bit of insight (that PF is a "safe" target), but from an emotional sense, his "okaying" of a vote for PF is reassuring. there's no logic behind it, but you know?

01-26-2009, 07:53 PM	#929
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Yes, DT, if I were putting a vote down this round, it would be for PF. I have a pretty good feeling about it, although not as strong as on Hoops. With Hoops, I felt comfortable because of some behavior of Hoops that seemed consistent with a prior time he had been a wolf and we had gotten strange vibes from Gabriel when discussing him. With PF, it's really about the votes. Pretty much all of his votes have been wrong and often suspiciously. He doesn't have a role (as far as we know). Plus I remember one point where he was really insistent on doing wall work to prove he was good. Seemed a little much to me. I'd say 80% chance he's a demon, which is higher odds than I would assign to anyone else.

01-26-2009, 07:54 PM	#930
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i see 3 votes for CR and no votes for PF yet by my unofficial count

01-26-2009, 08:03 PM	#931
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	whoops i missed chief's votes (they were before BK posted the start of the day) CR - 3 PF - 2

01-26-2009, 08:03 PM	#932
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Vote Packerfan Work on Windows

01-26-2009, 08:05 PM	#933
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Sounds good then Vote PackerFanatic __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 08:07 PM	#934
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	was hoping i'd be able to only vote once and do some work with my other action, but i guess someone else can do work on my behalf? doesn't really matter as long as the work gets done VOTE PACKERFANATIC VOTE PACKERFANATIC

01-26-2009, 08:09 PM	#935
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	aargh! assholes! i didn't refresh after I typed it out and then hopped up to run to the bathroom. well - looks like now we have CR - 3 PF - 6

01-26-2009, 08:12 PM	#936
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Thats ok DT, better safe than sorry. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-26-2009, 08:15 PM	#937
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	seems like there's not much going on here - i may just go off and wargame. i'm kicking ass as the confederacy - doing so well that in my last raising of funds i raised over a million dollars in 1862 - so I'm going to bulk shit up and invade the North!

01-26-2009, 08:22 PM	#938
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Seeing as how it has had no impact on today in terms of discussion and such, I am going to fix a mistake from last night. Several people complain today of grogginess. Complain of having heard loud drunken noises outside last night. Definitely someone getting a little too drunk for their own good and roaming the streets. Revised status of the Cathedral as of the start of the day: Walls - Repaired Roof - 6 shifts Windows - 7 shifts Artwork - 4 shifts Carpentry - Repaired Last edited by Barkeep49 : 01-26-2009 at 08:23 PM.

01-26-2009, 08:23 PM	#939
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Vote seems pretty fait accompli at this point. WORK ON ROOF WORK ON ROOF

01-26-2009, 08:29 PM	#940
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	awesome news on the revision!

01-26-2009, 08:43 PM	#941
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So we have 5 work done on roof and 1 on windows so far right?

01-26-2009, 08:49 PM	#942
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Here's what I have through 941: Packer – CR (879), CR (879), KWhit (932), Render (933), DT (934), DT (934) Chief – Packer (912), Packer (912), JH (915) Roof – JH (907), Jackal (920), Jackal (920), Tyrith (Roof), Tyrith (Roof) Walls – Real (914), Real (914), Real (914) Windows – Kwhit (932)

01-26-2009, 08:58 PM	#943
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I'm not so sure about these votes on PF. I could be wrong, but it seems like a lot of people are willing to go with CR without really questioning his reasoning. Either way, I don't think my votes are going to switch the lynch results, so I'm going to focus entirely on building the cathedral. WORK ON ROOF WORK ON ROOF

01-26-2009, 08:58 PM	#944
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Work on Roof Work on Windows

01-26-2009, 08:59 PM	#945
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Eh, I posted same time as Jonathan. If it is allowed, I would like to switch my Roof work to Windows.

01-26-2009, 09:01 PM	#946
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Not in this case, sorry. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 01-26-2009 at 09:01 PM.