WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 34

dubb93 · 05-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

Lathum · 05-01-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

not at all OOC for him

Lathum · 05-01-2009, 02:35 PM

OK, seriously, WTF. The lack of information on procedure is really irritating me.

Lathum · 05-01-2009, 02:46 PM

this is like doing a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded.

This is why I didn't want to do a mass reveal FWIW, the sympathizers can totally screw with us since they know everything.

Is it even possible to win the camp now?

Barkeep49 · 05-01-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

this is like doing a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded.

This is why I didn't want to do a mass reveal FWIW, the sympathizers can totally screw with us since they know everything.

Is it even possible to win the camp now?

So the solution to lack of information is even less information?

Lathum · 05-01-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So the solution to lack of information is even less information?

considering the sympatizers have owned us the last 2 days I think we were a little to cavalier giving out info.

DaddyTorgo · 05-01-2009, 02:58 PM

in a game like this where you have group tasks it's impossible without giving out info though - otherwise no one individual would have any idea how much work was needed in any given place so we'd end up overworking very easily

very frigging frustrating though

Barkeep49 · 05-01-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

considering the sympatizers have owned us the last 2 days I think we were a little to cavalier giving out info.

Considering the sympathizers have won the last two days I'm really thankful we have so much info out there since I don't know how we'd have come close otherwise.

TheNorm · 05-01-2009, 03:09 PM

Work on Hunting

With a gun it's x2, but since I don't have one, just one unit.

Chief Rum · 05-01-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

we don't even know if it was a numbers problem or a role problem, do we

Might have been a race problem.

Chief Rum · 05-01-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

The Kanawha county Sheriff pulls up on a few horses and many deputies dismount. They begin to surround USFLTecmo.

Before you protest, the Sheriff shows an arrest warrant for USFL Tecmo for sodomy. He is led away and incarcerated.

Grrr...

EagleFan · 05-01-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNorm

Work on Hunting

With a gun it's x2, but since I don't have one, just one unit.

If this is the case we may want to consider letting the cat out of the bag with this information. Maybe we can still work this out if enough people picked up a shotgun.

We may be avoiding a night kill at least. I would think that arresting someone may prevent them from doing a night kill as I don't think they didi one after they arrested me.

Then again, if some of us have shotguns can we storm the jail to get USFL out?

The Jackal · 05-01-2009, 03:32 PM

I think Abe made it clear that even though we know this is probably another fake warrant, it wouldn't fit into the storyline of the game for us to break a convicted sodomizer out of prison by force..

The Jackal · 05-01-2009, 03:35 PM

And I'll re-iterate that my weapon isn't a gun, otherwise I'd consider giving it to Norm.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Vote Danny

Some fishy play, especially not working at all (personally I'm not giving him a break because it did or didn't matter, it certainly wasn't a villager beneficial action).

I'm sort of catching up now.

If I was a wolf there is no way I miss putting in my work. Still, I screwed up, so if you want to vote for me for that so be it.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I think CR and USFL are x3 patrollers, and the only hunter we have left is norm unless I'm mistaken?

On a separate note - why are you voting for me, Norm? You realize the post you quoted when you voted is incorrect since Pass' vote really didn't matter? I don't see how him casting a mostly unimportant vote makes me likelier to be a wolf.

He voted for three different people, all of which were not you. I had the timing off like I said, but he still tried to avoid voting you.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

To clarify. I don't exactly suspect Danny. The vote was pretty much for missing the work order and he was around much more than Schmidty so he should have less of an excuse.

I also didn't want to see a runaway on Jackal. I don't see the suuspicion on him yet but a runaway vote does us no good at all if he turns up good.

I support this, a runaway vote does not do us any good and I have no role and haven't exactly been as active as I normally am, so if it has to be me that's ok.

And yeah I don't have a good excuse for missing my work yesterday other than being in a hurry and having a brain fart.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Damn. I guess there was no way for today to be a win/win based on the numbers. Now we have to worry about it being a lose/lose if there is a fake done.

I think our strategy of trying to win both every day is not working and is why I advocated against that from the start. We need to commit more to accomplishing one or the other from now on.

Poli · 05-01-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Vote NtNDeacon

He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

Dubb, I think you're a better player than that.

Abe Sargent · 05-01-2009, 04:05 PM

During the War of 1912-1913, In Paint Creek, Baldwin-Felts detectives set up an armed camp at Mucklow, including machine guns.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

During the War of 1912-1913, In Paint Creek, Baldwin-Felts detectives set up an armed camp at Mucklow, including machine guns.

Where is my machine gun then?

EagleFan · 05-01-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I think our strategy of trying to win both every day is not working and is why I advocated against that from the start. We need to commit more to accomplishing one or the other from now on.

I would love to also win both each day. The problem is with days which require such a large amount of work to be done that we can't commit enough resources to the mission and then leave no wiggle room for the camps.

My statement wasn't meant to say that we shouldn't try to win both. I was just frustrated since I was relatively active in trying to get the numbers to work out as best possible but now I feel that cost us the mission and the camp.

EagleFan · 05-01-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I think Abe made it clear that even though we know this is probably another fake warrant, it wouldn't fit into the storyline of the game for us to break a convicted sodomizer out of prison by force..

I know. I was just kidding around by the "break him out" comment because someone brought the idea up for breaking me out when I was arrested.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I would love to also win both each day. The problem is with days which require such a large amount of work to be done that we can't commit enough resources to the mission and then leave no wiggle room for the camps.

My statement wasn't meant to say that we shouldn't try to win both. I was just frustrated since I was relatively active in trying to get the numbers to work out as best possible but now I feel that cost us the mission and the camp.

It's tough because we don't what the wolves can do or really any idea of how to do anything for that matter.

At this point I am guessing arresting someone comes in place of a night action for the wolves, but we'll see with a night kill or not.

Poli · 05-01-2009, 04:22 PM

VOTE Dubb93

His vote on ntn just doesn't sit right with me. It is a flexible vote, however. I'm interested in reviewing the interaction between Jackal and Pass, if any.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

VOTE Dubb93

His vote on ntn just doesn't sit right with me. It is a flexible vote, however. I'm interested in reviewing the interaction between Jackal and Pass, if any.

His vote seemed off to me, if I decided to move off of Jackal, it would probably be to him (only other candidate so far is me though

)

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:28 PM

Im going through some stuff with Pass/Jackal. This is where the vote stood an hour and half before deadline

render 3 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190, Jackal 1205)
Jackal 3 (Danny 1172, Poli 1202, heinz 1216)
PB 1 (EF 914)
Pass 1 (clap 1116)
clap 1 (Pass 1154)
BK 1 (dubb 1250)
Autumn 1 (CR 1255)

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:33 PM

At that point Pass kept his vote on Jackyl until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal to make it a 5-3 vote. About 10 minutes before deadline Pass unvoted Clap and switched to the Jackal to make it 5-4 then another vote for Jackal came and then the whole schmidty thing.

From this I actually am not as strong on Jackal as I was. When Pass switched to Jackal it was likely too late to save him and he may have simply not wanted to be the lynch on a known villager by going Jackal as well. He also didn't support the Schmidty thing once it looked like Jackal was going to be the lynch.

Unvote Jackal

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

At that point Pass kept his vote on Jackyl until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal

That should say kept his vote on Clap

Danny · 05-01-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

At that point Pass kept his vote on Clap until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal to make it a 5-3 vote. About 10 minutes before deadline Pass unvoted Clap and switched to Render to make it 5-4 then another vote for Jackal came to make it 6-4 and then the whole schmidty thing.
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Reposted since I made a few name errors.

jeheinz72 · 05-01-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Dubb, I think you're a better player than that.

I don't.

jeheinz72 · 05-01-2009, 04:39 PM

Unvote Danny
Vote TheNorm

Reasoning to follow

jeheinz72 · 05-01-2009, 04:40 PM

A) Was fishy on him first two days.

B) Didn't like the somewhat quick 2nd vote he put on Jackal today

C) Don't like the bait he cast about the gun earlier. Either it's a poor villager play to reveal that or it's a wolf trying to see who else might have such a bonus for future targeting.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 05:14 PM

Just realized we have until Sunday

dubb93 · 05-01-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I don't.

Oh wait...yea that's right, I don't give a shit what you think.

Poli · 05-01-2009, 05:17 PM

Dear Danny,

We have until Sunday.

Your Friend,

Poli

Abe Sargent · 05-01-2009, 05:20 PM

Schmidty has been replaced by Glengoyne. Everybody welcome him with love and coal and bullets.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Dear Danny,

We have until Sunday.

Your Friend,

Poli

I was thirsty for sympathizer blood.

Danny · 05-01-2009, 05:21 PM

Welcome Glen!

Abe Sargent · 05-01-2009, 05:23 PM

Glengoyne has not played in a while, so make him feel extra special and loved. Perhaps you can rekindle the spark of WW love in him?

The Jackal · 05-01-2009, 05:27 PM

Welcome aboard glen.. first matter of business - get your orders in on time!

Lathum · 05-01-2009, 05:34 PM

hey Glen

Heinzey, I am also suspect of the way TheNorm is playing. His reactions are similar to last game when he was a wolf.

Glengoyne · 05-01-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Welcome aboard glen.. first matter of business - get your orders in on time!

Damn that sounds like work. Oh this is all about mines and labor. I'll be reading up tonight...1700 posts. OMG this IS work.

Poli · 05-01-2009, 05:50 PM

Let me sum it up for you.

Trust in Poli, Barkeep, and Eaglefan.

You're welcome!

PurdueBrad · 05-01-2009, 06:50 PM

Just caught up, sorry I wasn't around to do the mission but from the sound of it, I wouldn't have been a big help anyway.

Let me get placeholders in in case I don't make deadline.

PurdueBrad · 05-01-2009, 06:51 PM

I think this is right given what happened to USFL

work patrolling

EagleFan · 05-01-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Damn that sounds like work. Oh this is all about mines and labor. I'll be reading up tonight...1700 posts. OMG this IS work.

Welcome. God luck catching up too. Damn, I just added one more post for you to sift through...

PurdueBrad · 05-01-2009, 07:07 PM

Just saw the deadline isn't tonight. I'll leave my work where it is and see where conversation goes.

PurdueBrad · 05-01-2009, 07:07 PM

If you guys need me to move to a different labor group, let me know.

RendeR · 05-01-2009, 09:02 PM

I'll keep my work unit available for now. When we get things sorted out I'll put it on something necessary then.

05-01-2009, 02:58 PM	#1657
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	in a game like this where you have group tasks it's impossible without giving out info though - otherwise no one individual would have any idea how much work was needed in any given place so we'd end up overworking very easily very frigging frustrating though __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-01-2009, 04:05 PM	#1670
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	During the War of 1912-1913, In Paint Creek, Baldwin-Felts detectives set up an armed camp at Mucklow, including machine guns. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 05-01-2009 at 04:06 PM.

05-01-2009, 04:22 PM	#1675
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE Dubb93 His vote on ntn just doesn't sit right with me. It is a flexible vote, however. I'm interested in reviewing the interaction between Jackal and Pass, if any. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-01-2009, 05:17 PM	#1686
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dear Danny, We have until Sunday. Your Friend, Poli __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-01-2009, 05:20 PM	#1687
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Schmidty has been replaced by Glengoyne. Everybody welcome him with love and coal and bullets. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-01-2009, 02:20 PM	#1651
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Vote NtNDeacon He has managed his share of a whole 10 posts out of the 1650 so far in this thread. Crazy UTR this one.

05-01-2009, 02:35 PM	#1653
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, seriously, WTF. The lack of information on procedure is really irritating me.

05-01-2009, 02:46 PM	#1654
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	this is like doing a jigsaw puzzle blindfolded. This is why I didn't want to do a mass reveal FWIW, the sympathizers can totally screw with us since they know everything. Is it even possible to win the camp now?

05-01-2009, 03:09 PM	#1659
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	Work on Hunting With a gun it's x2, but since I don't have one, just one unit.

05-01-2009, 03:32 PM	#1663
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I think Abe made it clear that even though we know this is probably another fake warrant, it wouldn't fit into the storyline of the game for us to break a convicted sodomizer out of prison by force..

05-01-2009, 03:35 PM	#1664
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And I'll re-iterate that my weapon isn't a gun, otherwise I'd consider giving it to Norm.

05-01-2009, 04:28 PM	#1677
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Im going through some stuff with Pass/Jackal. This is where the vote stood an hour and half before deadline render 3 (lathum 1134, autumn 1190, Jackal 1205) Jackal 3 (Danny 1172, Poli 1202, heinz 1216) PB 1 (EF 914) Pass 1 (clap 1116) clap 1 (Pass 1154) BK 1 (dubb 1250) Autumn 1 (CR 1255)

05-01-2009, 04:33 PM	#1678
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	At that point Pass kept his vote on Jackyl until BK and Dubb both voted Jackal to make it a 5-3 vote. About 10 minutes before deadline Pass unvoted Clap and switched to the Jackal to make it 5-4 then another vote for Jackal came and then the whole schmidty thing. From this I actually am not as strong on Jackal as I was. When Pass switched to Jackal it was likely too late to save him and he may have simply not wanted to be the lynch on a known villager by going Jackal as well. He also didn't support the Schmidty thing once it looked like Jackal was going to be the lynch. Unvote Jackal

05-01-2009, 05:14 PM	#1684
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just realized we have until Sunday

05-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#1689
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Welcome Glen!

05-01-2009, 05:23 PM	#1690
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Glengoyne has not played in a while, so make him feel extra special and loved. Perhaps you can rekindle the spark of WW love in him? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-01-2009, 05:27 PM	#1691
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Welcome aboard glen.. first matter of business - get your orders in on time!

05-01-2009, 05:34 PM	#1692
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hey Glen Heinzey, I am also suspect of the way TheNorm is playing. His reactions are similar to last game when he was a wolf.

05-01-2009, 05:50 PM	#1694
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Let me sum it up for you. Trust in Poli, Barkeep, and Eaglefan. You're welcome! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-01-2009, 06:50 PM	#1695
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Just caught up, sorry I wasn't around to do the mission but from the sound of it, I wouldn't have been a big help anyway. Let me get placeholders in in case I don't make deadline.

05-01-2009, 06:51 PM	#1696
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I think this is right given what happened to USFL work patrolling

05-01-2009, 07:07 PM	#1698
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Just saw the deadline isn't tonight. I'll leave my work where it is and see where conversation goes.

05-01-2009, 07:07 PM	#1699
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	If you guys need me to move to a different labor group, let me know.

05-01-2009, 09:02 PM	#1700
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'll keep my work unit available for now. When we get things sorted out I'll put it on something necessary then. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

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