If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Who'd guess it?

Rudy Giuliani’s crazy witness in the Michigan election “hearing” was just off probation for harassing her boyfriend’s ex by sending her graphic videos of them having sex.

https://t.co/CaXniG9UPu pic.twitter.com/lCSdKMf7p7

— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) December 5, 2020

I thought her name was Melissa Carone (vs Wright)?

But if true, that is hilarious.

[Ksyrup]

Trump still trying THIS MORNING to pressure Kemp into overturning the election results. Crazy that we're at the point where we're dependent on people like Brian Kemp to save our democracy.

[bronconick]

His 2 month long temper tantrum over losing is going to propel him past Buchanan for worst President, if he wasn't there already.

[Ksyrup]

This is the effing truth right here.

Victimhood is now the GOP’s calling card. It is the only trick it knows.

Don’t let anyone try to say Trumpism is the “tough” act in politics. It’s just a loser’s whine that wants to ignore reality and blame everyone else. https://t.co/rutVxIQUBh

— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) December 6, 2020

[Ben E Lou]

The lawyers hired by the state of Georgia in the Powell lawsuit are gettin' kinda spicy!

Georgia’s motion to dismiss Sidney Powell’s lawsuit: “Much like the mythological kraken monster after which plaintiffs have named this lawsuit, their claims of election fraud and malfeasance belong more to the kraken’s realm of mythos than they do to reality.” #gapol pic.twitter.com/OuwdmAaHgn

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) December 6, 2020

[Ksyrup]

I'm about ready to just walk out of this country and into the ocean. We've spent weeks railing against the GOP conspiracy theory nuts, and now the Dems are doing the same thing - about McConnell's victory, no less! Led by Christopher Titus!

The same half-baked BS about cheating and something seems suspicious and yada yada... just read the comments. Oy. We don't deserve what we have. We just plain suck.

Weird voting numbers out of Kentucky. I’ll break it down tomorrow. But it seems 84% of Republicans voted, but only 46% of Registered Dems voted. In THIS election? Hmmm, I think @senatemajldr has a little ‘splainin to do.

— Titus (@TitusNation) December 6, 2020

[Lathum]

yeah. If anything they should take that "data" and use it as an example to the right that data inconsistencies happen on both sides.

[albionmoonlight]

It is hard to express just how crazypants these lawsuits are as lawsuits (I know that the point of them is to raise money and not to win).

The best analogy I can think of: Team A beats Team B in a football game 35-14.

Three weeks after the game, team B files a complaint with, like, the deputy director of the NFLPA, arguing that Team A fumbled twice in the third quarter, and turnovers are a big predictor of success. So it is impossible for Team A to have won. So the deputy director of the NFLPA needs to overturn the results of the game and declare Team B the winner.

[Ben E Lou]

After the completion of the third counting of the votes in Georgia, Joe Biden wins again. Georgia results have been certified for the second time now.

[Kodos]

We will keep counting until Trump wins!

[BYU 14]

From his Georgia rally. And people keep harping on Biden's mental faculties SMH

After segueing between various topics, Mr Trump told the crowd at the rally: “Blueberries, peppers, squash and cucumbers. Who does cucumbers around here?”

He added, as the crowd cheered: “Because I like cucumbers. I’m the only one. I like cucumbers.”

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

After the completion of the third counting of the votes in Georgia, Joe Biden wins again. Georgia results have been certified for the second time now.

Biden's one win away from sweeping the 7 game game series in Georgia.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Biden's one win away from sweeping the 7 game game series in Georgia.

Trump: Who does best of 7? It's going to be best of 9 or until we win 1!

SI

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

It is hard to express just how crazypants these lawsuits are as lawsuits (I know that the point of them is to raise money and not to win).

The best analogy I can think of: Team A beats Team B in a football game 35-14.

Three weeks after the game, team B files a complaint with, like, the deputy director of the NFLPA, arguing that Team A fumbled twice in the third quarter, and turnovers are a big predictor of success. So it is impossible for Team A to have won. So the deputy director of the NFLPA needs to overturn the results of the game and declare Team B the winner.

This is exactly it. I mean they are not even trying to win these cases. The "Kraken" lawsuit in Wisconsin (after they have alreay lost in Georgia and essentially lost in Michigan today), they are not even asking for a hearing. They want the judge to rule off the error-riddled filing. What I think they thought they could get (beyond the financial grift) is the State legislatures to use the lawsuit as an excuse to overturn the election. That's why i believe they have went full-court press in Georgia and with Gov. Kemp. He was their best shot as a complete Trump boot-licker. They just didn't count on him being wary to blatantly break the law for Trump. It is much like Bill Barr, where he was willing to stomp on any norms and really destroy the independence of the Justice department, but just open law-breaking was a bit too far.

[NobodyHere]

Trump is just showing what a good Christian he is

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3309336d130f56

[JPhillips]

Cobb County, GA closing half of the early voting locations.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Trump is just showing what a good Christian he is

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...3309336d130f56

I believe Catholic church is against death penalty.

I think Evangelicals are in concept opposed to it but not opposed enough to categorically say no.

So maybe "Trump is just show what a good Evangelical he is".

[Edward64]

FWIW, I like the idea of Trump going down to FL and not coming back to the WH after the holidays.

[Ksyrup]

I don't know where this needs to go since it's not directly Trump-related, but ... W. T. F.???

In THIS political climate, the official AZ GOP twitter account posts THIS?

“This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.” ���� pic.twitter.com/U830SiXf4N

— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) December 8, 2020

[JPhillips]

A bunch of GOP congress folks filed an amicus brief with SCOTUS that includes this gem:

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I don't know where this needs to go since it's not directly Trump-related, but ... W. T. F.???

In THIS political climate, the official AZ GOP twitter account posts THIS?

“This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.” ���� pic.twitter.com/U830SiXf4N

— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) December 8, 2020

Well, we do have Andy Biggs, Debbie Lesko and Paul Gosar in office here, so yeah, not too hard to believe something like this, one of them probably ghost authored for whoever controls the account.

Sadly, a lot of elected officials here in both parties are fairly moderate, but the outliers defein extreme in a new and scary way.

[Ksyrup]

This one is even more direct. Holy crap! Someone is going to get killed.

He is. Are you? https://t.co/OY8qxNMPxm

— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) December 8, 2020

[Ksyrup]

So naturally, the next lawsuit seeking to overturn the election is from Texas, against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin. How much further past pathetic can we go?

It looks like we have a new leader in the “craziest lawsuit filed to purportedly challenge the election” category:

The State of Texas is suing Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin *directly* in #SCOTUS.

(Spoiler alert: The Court is *never* going to hear this one.) pic.twitter.com/2L4GmdCB6I

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) December 8, 2020

[Lathum]

didn't a lawmaker from Az. get shot in the face a while back?

[miami_fan]

We know where this goes one of two ways. 1) we (whatever side we happens) say that it is the fault of the other side and/or 2) we say no one explicitly said that someone should die so we cannot not be held responsible for how someone interpreted the message that we sent.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Lathum

didn't a lawmaker from Az. get shot in the face a while back?

Yes, and her husband just became senator. Also, Lathum since I think your in PA, the child killed in that shooting was Dallas Green's grand-daughter (Dallas Green coach of the Phillies in 1980).

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Well, we do have Andy Biggs, Debbie Lesko and Paul Gosar in office here, so yeah, not too hard to believe something like this, one of them probably ghost authored for whoever controls the account.

Sadly, a lot of elected officials here in both parties are fairly moderate, but the outliers defein extreme in a new and scary way.

Kelly Ward seems to be the grand marshal of the crazy parade.

[Ghost Econ]

Imagine someone saying your father killed a sitting President and your wife should be committed to a mental institution.

Then imagine you doing everything in your power to support this person, even offering to argue for them to steal an election in front of the Supreme Court.

You would think there is no low for Ted Cruz, but you would be wrong. At least now we know what blind ambition looks like. He has to feel going all in is his only shot for 2024.

[Ben E Lou]

With the EC meeting six days from today, I fully expected this to be a week of crazy. So far it hasn't disappointed.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Kelly Ward seems to be the grand marshal of the crazy parade.

Who somehow stays relevant despite getting trounced by McSally in the primary for what is now Sinema's seat.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Yes, and her husband just became senator. Also, Lathum since I think your in PA, the child killed in that shooting was Dallas Green's grand-daughter (Dallas Green coach of the Phillies in 1980).

I'm in Jersey but had no idea.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

With the EC meeting six days from today, I fully expected this to be a week of crazy. So far it hasn't disappointed.

Trump's legal team has already said they will not stop until January 20, at 12:01 pm. So, the crazy is not stopping anytime soon.

[JPhillips]

Except they may all have COVID now, so that probably at least slows them down a bit.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Except they may all have COVID now, so that probably at least slows them down a bit.

I don't know if it will. I think they have middle school students writing their briefs.

[GrantDawg]

SCOTUS says "No Thank you"

Over no public dissents, #SCOTUS rejects @MikeKellyPA’s emergency application to enjoin Pennsylvania from certifying its electors.

This is as strong a message as the Court could *possibly* send that it’s not stepping into the election — and that all of this nonsense is over. pic.twitter.com/KuMXyOWQPS

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) December 8, 2020

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I don't know if it will. I think they have middle school students writing their briefs.

Might do a better job with the spell check and the legal footing might be just as sound.

SI

[ISiddiqui]

Now that the SCOTUS has said they won't overrule the vote, now what they'll do. Apparently the big plan was to get to the SCOTUS, where they'll give it to Trump... Because they owe him or something? But they said nah.

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[Ghost Econ]

There's actually a Really Supreme Court they're going to appeal to.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Now that the SCOTUS has said they won't overrule the vote, now what they'll do. Apparently the big plan was to get to the SCOTUS, where they'll give it to Trump... Because they owe him or something? But they said nah.

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It's all about the Texas lawsuit now.

[henry296]

In an article about the stimulus package even Mitch referred to Biden as President-elect.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Atocep

It's all about the Texas lawsuit now.

I imagine. But the fact this was a unanimous "no" put out minutes after the last filing seems to say they are not interested in weighing in on this. The Texas suit would be considered an even longer shot to be heard.

[ISiddiqui]

Right, the Texas lawsuit is even more ridiculous than any others. The SCOTUS would smack it down on the same basis.

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[Ben E Lou]

So....I've lost count of the prominent conservatives who have been revealed to be a part of the Deep State. It seems we have Brian Kemp, Bill Barr, Amy Coney Barrett, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and Samuel Alito. Am I leaving any out?

[thesloppy]

I feel like just the remarkable declining quality of GOP politicians kind of gets lost/obscured in the discussion about Trumpism. Graham and McConnell are horrible (and Romney is relatively inoffensive), but they at least seem intelligent & maintain some air that reminds me of the classic 'GOP statesman' that I grew up with, whereas seemingly every other modern GOP politician is some flavor of used car lot kook. In particular, the next wave of gen-x GOP leadership, Cotton/Jordan/Gaetz/Cruz/Rubio/etc comes off like an an erectile dysfunction support group at a suburban Florida strip mall.

[Ksyrup]

So they know at least 2 letters of the alphabet...

E is supposedly the new Q. Be wary if you come across this stuff. pic.twitter.com/i5AScbMzUy

— Parlertakes (@parlertakes) December 8, 2020

[whomario]

Someone explain to why the fuck the Texan AG would have any insight into the other states that they don't ? Ia this just one of those very american things in the "everybody can sue everybody for anything" vein ?
Why in the world is that even any of his business in his role (decidedly not as a citizen) how other states handle a matter that (as i understand it) is a state matter ?

Also, as a layperson: There is no way this isn't riddled with holes in it, no ? Like, say, states Trump won using similar or at least some of the same adjustments ?

[Ksyrup]

They are desperate to get to the Supreme Court because they believe the conservative court owes Trump a win, and one of the matters that the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction over (meaning, you don't have to go to another court before the SC) is suits between states. But this has no chance in hell.

[GrantDawg]

This thread is must read. It breaks down the affidavit on the Texas case. To say it is bad is an understatement.

Texas's expert affidavit is now available here. I need you all to understand just how bad it is https://t.co/BX7bNxbc3E

— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) December 8, 2020

[Ksyrup]

The other interesting thing about this suit by this particular TX AG is that he was recently referred for criminal investigation by a number of his own aides (a couple of which were fired shortly after) for abuse of office and bribery. He's likely attempting to curry favor with Trump and others for possible assistance with those matters. And he's already facing securities fraud charges. Real winner. Law and order and all that...

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by whomario

Someone explain to why the fuck the Texan AG would have any insight into the other states that they don't ? Ia this just one of those very american things in the "everybody can sue everybody for anything" vein ?
Why in the world is that even any of his business in his role (decidedly not as a citizen) how other states handle a matter that (as i understand it) is a state matter ?

Also, as a layperson: There is no way this isn't riddled with holes in it, no ? Like, say, states Trump won using similar or at least some of the same adjustments ?

The suit is frivolous.

It’s a game to the MAGA. They are enjoying this. It’s all a show. And Trump promised them a Supreme Court scene near the end of the show. And if there’s one thing the man knows, it’s television. Give the people what they want.