NFL Week 15

[Abe Sargent]

Are you ready for some football?


Basically this season for me as a Jaguars fan as been "Holy Crap Bortles! You don;t suck!" And then Holy Crap for the Allens and Telvin Smith as well. I would love to see Oakland and Jacksonville as forces in the AFC in teh future, and meet some day in teh AFC Championship game - so many stories. From Oakland's ex-OC as ours to Del Rio the former Jax HC as theirs and then the drafts where we took someone when people thought we should take a certain Mack, and then how those players have been. Lots of fun stories!



But that's for two or three years from now. For today, who are you rooting for this week? Any major teams you think are pulling a funky upset?

[NobodyHere]

The fact that the Jags could still win the AFC South is very very sad.

I have little faith in my Colts at this point.

[TroyF]

Just think about that division in a couple of years. Andrew Luck, Blake Bortles and Marcus Marriota battling it out for the division title? The division is going to be brutal. After a year or two of that, the Texans will get a high pick and we could potentially end up with a division having 4 franchise level QB's. Unbelievable.

[NobodyHere]

I just hope that Andrew Luck has enough internal organs to compete for a division title.

[Radii]

I'd really like to see an Eagles win over Arizona. The Panthers just had too many injury scares last week. Need to get that 1 seed locked up so they can rest some folks.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Radii

I'd really like to see an Eagles win over Arizona. The Panthers just had too many injury scares last week. Need to get that 1 seed locked up so they can rest some folks.

I would not

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Just think about that division in a couple of years. Andrew Luck, Blake Bortles and Marcus Marriota battling it out for the division title? The division is going to be brutal. After a year or two of that, the Texans will get a high pick and we could potentially end up with a division having 4 franchise level QB's. Unbelievable.

That's been the AFC North for a while now.

Except for the Browns.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

But that's for two or three years from now. For today, who are you rooting for this week? Any major teams you think are pulling a funky upset?

The Chiefs remaining schedule has nothing but 'funky upset' possibilities. They're in the drivers seat for the top wildcard (and could still win the division), but they playoffs have already started for the Chiefs. With this schedule, they just have to keep winning.

[albionmoonlight]

Saints host the Lions Monday night in a game that will have a real impact on the fantasy playoffs, even as it means nothing to the NFL playoffs.

[Kodos]

NFL 1985 Playoff Schedule - NFL.com

It's kinda fun looking through old playoff results on NFL.com, but couldn't they include the team logos that were in use at the time of the game?

[EagleFan]

What in the name of all things holy is wrong with my TV tonight? Those uniforms are awful.

[stevew]

Color Rush Thursday. It's a new Nike promotion that will be every Thurs game next year. I dig the rams gear

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Kodos

NFL 1985 Playoff Schedule - NFL.com

It's kinda fun looking through old playoff results on NFL.com, but couldn't they include the team logos that were in use at the time of the game?

FOFL > NFL

[bhlloy]

Wonder what would happen if the Bucs special teamers went that apeshit every time Jameis threw the ball 10 yards over his receivers head?

[Dutch]

Love Jameis. He's the leader and he brings some fire to the team. It's a different type of leader, but I like his style.

[bhlloy]

Showing up your special teamers when your inaccuracy is a large reason you are losing isn't a good look, sorry. He's come across whiny and petulant tonight imo.

Although that was a horrific decision by Lovie to take the 3 points there. I would be pissed at that as well

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Showing up your special teamers when your inaccuracy is a large reason you are losing isn't a good look, sorry. He's come across whiny and petulant tonight imo.

Although that was a horrific decision by Lovie to take the 3 points there. I would be pissed at that as well

As a Bucs fan, I'm basing my thoughts on the entire body of work...not one moment in time...it's his style.

Check out the video in this article, gives a little bit more insight into Jameis as a competitor.

Bucs GM impressed by maturity of Jameis Winston, Ali Marpet - NFL.com

During Training Camp, the OL coach pulled the first team to run gassers and Winston flipped the ball to Mike Glennon. The coaches asked where he thought he was going...he said, "We screwed up, so I'm running gassers with my line."

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by stevew

Color Rush Thursday. It's a new Nike promotion that will be every Thurs game next year. I dig the rams gear

Just saw a picture from the game. Those were some eyesores for both teams.

[Dutch]

I saw "Mustard vs Ketchup"....

NFL looks like total sell-outs with these awful uniforms.

[Solecismic]

Remember five years ago when everything was chrome?

Now it's bold primary colors. I've seen enough of Android's color pentagons this year to last a lifetime.

[mckerney]

The NFL isn't going to be happy until Thursday night games are completely unwatchable.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by mckerney

The NFL isn't going to be happy until Thursday night games are completely unwatchable.

Well, every Thursday game next year will be some derivative of this. Get ready. Nike is excited to turn out some new uniform concepts specifically for these games.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by stevew

Well, every Thursday game next year will be some derivative of this. Get ready. Nike is excited to turn out some new uniform concepts specifically for these games.

That frees up Thursday night for me.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Dutch

As a Bucs fan, I'm basing my thoughts on the entire body of work...not one moment in time...it's his style.

Check out the video in this article, gives a little bit more insight into Jameis as a competitor.

Bucs GM impressed by maturity of Jameis Winston, Ali Marpet - NFL.com

During Training Camp, the OL coach pulled the first team to run gassers and Winston flipped the ball to Mike Glennon. The coaches asked where he thought he was going...he said, "We screwed up, so I'm running gassers with my line."

Wow, so he really has turned over a new leaf.

No, wait, what's that?

Oh, yeah, he still raped that one girl. So he's still a dick.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

FOFL > NFL

Absolutely.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wow, so he really has turned over a new leaf.

No, wait, what's that?

Oh, yeah, he still raped that one girl. So he's still a dick.

You know what, I think he did rape that girl. Wanna go with me to go take him to jail? No? Then shut the fuck up and root for touchdowns.

[MIJB#19]

Still going strong with my Yahoo pick'em, having moved up to tied for 20th overall now...

But week 15 has another bunch of head case games. I'm still flip-flopping about the New York teams this weekend, I think the Giants can upset the Panthers, while the Jets seem capable of ruining their playoff hopes against Romoless Cowboys. Not to mention the Colts/Texans, Bills/Redskins and Jaguars/Falcons games, in all of them where both teams are fighting to stay alive, while all involved are capable of choking in Chicago Bears fashion. Decisions, decisions...

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Dutch

You know what, I think he did rape that girl. Wanna go with me to go take him to jail? No? Then shut the fuck up and root for touchdowns.

I may be in the minority, but I simply cannot root for assholes. Even if they are on my team.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I may be in the minority, but I simply cannot root for assholes. Even if they are on my team.

If I decided to care about this, I would just stop following the sport.

EDIT: I hope I shouldn't need to specify this, but given the way many FOFC discussions go I'm gonna go ahead and do so in advance. I'm not condoning any of the horrible shit Winston did in college. The fact that he very likely got special treatment b/c of who he was is horrible. I would like to see harsher penalties for violent crimes committed by NFL players instead of what currently happens today. But the fact is that I enjoy watching the sport and choose to separate the two things apart. If I were unable to do so I don't see how it would be possible to enjoy the sport at all, and I would stop watching.

[Thomkal]

If anyone was going to beat the Panthers, it would be this week given that Stewart is out and Olsen may not be at 100% (listed as Probable). Very interested to see who wins the Josh Norman/Odell Beckham matchup.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Radii

If I decided to care about this, I would just stop following the sport.

EDIT: I hope I shouldn't need to specify this, but given the way many FOFC discussions go I'm gonna go ahead and do so in advance. I'm not condoning any of the horrible shit Winston did in college. The fact that he very likely got special treatment b/c of who he was is horrible. I would like to see harsher penalties for violent crimes committed by NFL players instead of what currently happens today. But the fact is that I enjoy watching the sport and choose to separate the two things apart. If I were unable to do so I don't see how it would be possible to enjoy the sport at all, and I would stop watching.

I totally understand. It'd be impossible to root for pretty much any team if I was too strict about this. I try to focus on the Peyton Mannings rather than the Bill Romanowskis.

[Butter]

My comment was mostly directed at the headline "Bucs impressed by maturity of Jameis Winston".

Give me a fuckin' break.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Showing up your special teamers when your inaccuracy is a large reason you are losing isn't a good look, sorry. He's come across whiny and petulant tonight imo.

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Wow, so he really has turned over a new leaf.

No, wait, what's that?

Oh, yeah, he still raped that one girl. So he's still a dick.

That's pretty much been Jameis since Day 1 at FSU though too... immature/asshole off the field, fiery leader with a helmet on. He was a leader on a loaded FSU team as a Freshman, and appears to have the same respect from his teammates as a rookie on Tampa. Whether he raped the girl or not I don't know - it seems to be exactly the unfortunately all too common situation of a drunk freshman girl and a he said/she said over whether the sex was consensual - and we'll never know unless Jameis admits guilt or she admits making it up. I do think the other two incidents (crab legs, yelling Fuck Her Right In The Pussy) were pretty overblown and signs of immaturity more than bad moral fiber. But he's always had the respect of his teammates, so I'll trust their judgment on his sideline demeanor. (plus honestly it's really not that different than what a Tom Brady or Phillip Rivers does at times)

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I may be in the minority, but I simply cannot root for assholes. Even if they are on my team.

I'm glad you stick to your guns on that. I'd like to say I'm the same way but I was mad at Ray Lewis and I enjoyed his play...I was mad at Mike Vick, but I enjoyed his play...I see a player with specific skill-sets...a uniform...a number...for the most part that is. I am not thrilled with players like Hardy or Vick or Ray Lewis...but at the end of the day, they got to put uniforms on and either play for our teams or against our teams.

But, I could be in the minority. I liken football to football, not day-time soaps. I'm not in it for the off-field drama like ESPN is. Especially when it's my team and the QB in question is the only hope this team has for another 5 years...I don't have the time or luxury to take 10 or 15 years off waiting for Winston to retire because Winston is an "asshole". At the end of the day, I am a Bucs fan and that priority tops pretty much all else in the wonderful world of sports.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

My comment was mostly directed at the headline "Bucs impressed by maturity of Jameis Winston".

Give me a fuckin' break.

To be fair, the bar for his maturity level was pretty damn low during the pre draft build up. It is early but the fact that he is not Johnny Manzel 2.0 (remember those comparisons) is worthy of that headline.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I totally understand. It'd be impossible to root for pretty much any team if I was too strict about this. I try to focus on the Peyton Mannings rather than the Bill Romanowskis.

Yeah, definitely. And I know you've posted about this many times over the years in many different situations, I admire your consistency on the matter (compared to most folks who let the team a player plays for impact their judgement of their personality far, far too much).

[MizzouRah]

I loved the Rams jerseys.. and the game wasn't too bad either.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I may be in the minority, but I simply cannot root for assholes. Even if they are on my team.

I had this issue when a popular player from my College was drafted by teh Jags. This guy was one of my residents, and he was a pure, total, dick. I had to remove him from my building, and you know it's a major issue when you kick out a football star, and the team let's you. And what do I do then? I decided to keep rooting for my team, but not him. Never, ever, ever, ,him.

[BillJasper]

Clinton Portis is broke...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...er-500000-each

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I had this issue when a popular player from my College was drafted by teh Jags. This guy was one of my residents, and he was a pure, total, dick. I had to remove him from my building, and you know it's a major issue when you kick out a football star, and the team let's you. And what do I do then? I decided to keep rooting for my team, but not him. Never, ever, ever, ,him.

Well, shit, we're all on the same page then. If you can NOT root for Jameis Winston but you CAN root for the Bucs to score TD's (and ultimately, Winston by proxy) then who cares? It pretty much invalidates the entire faux-rage when you won't root for a dude but you will root for the dude if he has the football...

[JPhillips]

I saw this irrelevant, but interesting bit of information,

The last time an Alabama QB started and won and NFL game was November 15, 1987.

[stevew]

There's an NFL game on tonight?

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by stevew

There's an NFL game on tonight?

that depends on what the definition of "NFL" and "game" is.

[molson]

The drunks here at the downtown boise bars are super into this cowboys game now that Kellen Moore is in at QB.

[bhlloy]

This is a very Jets way to blow the playoffs

[Abe Sargent]

Is that a very Jets way to mak the p;layoffs then?

[bob]

The Lions need to run the table to avoid an 11th season since 2001 with six wins or fewer.

It is fun being a Lions fan

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by bob

The Lions need to run the table to avoid an 11th season since 2001 with six wins or fewer.

It is fun being a Lions fan

There's nothing special about that, the Cleveland Browns already clinched that same feat two weeks ago, while the Oakland Raiders are back to back to back losses away from the same accomplishment. The Buffalo Bills are the worst here though, being the only team in that timespan without a trip to the playoffs.

[frnk55]

I just read the Staffords record against teams with a winning record is 3-32.
Ouch.

[sabotai]

Norman gets away with something that was a borderline personal foul on Beckham on the Giants first drive. Beckham returns the favor on the Giants 2nd offensive drive (and took his helmet off) and still no flag. This could get ugly.

After the commercial, they showed the referee looking like he was reading the riot act to both head coaches.