14-15 NBA Playoffs Thread - Page 9

whomario · 06-02-2015, 10:11 AM

I disagree. This is the finals, i want the players in the best possible condition. This is maybe the first time in months some of these guys got some real rest and as a team maybe got to run a few real practices. The schedule is insane enough as it is

Chief Rum · 06-02-2015, 10:53 AM

This is what happens when the conference finals opponents suck and lose quickly to the better teams.

Vince, Pt. II · 06-02-2015, 11:03 AM

Yeah, my initial reaction was the same as stevew's, but I've come around. The time off has been great for both teams, and are we really in a hurry for the season to end?

stevew · 06-02-2015, 12:35 PM

When the question is "when is the last time my team won" and the answer is "40 years ago" or "never", you absolutely want to get on with playing this thing out ASAP

Vince, Pt. II · 06-02-2015, 01:12 PM

My team hasn't won in 40 years. The delay has allowed one of my team's most important players to get healthier. I have literally zero problem with the delay.

Brian Swartz · 06-02-2015, 01:19 PM

Eh, I'm in a hurry for it to end, but for the reason that -- no disrespect -- I think the result is about as much a foregone conclusion as an NBA Finals can be. But I don't think the time off is such a bad thing either . A reward for getting your business done allowing you to get healthy for the final clash? Nothing wrong with that IMO.

stevew · 06-02-2015, 04:14 PM

Of course Klay is free of any concussion type symptoms. As if there was any doubt.

miami_fan · 06-04-2015, 10:13 PM

This just in, Lebron is pretty good.

mckerney · 06-04-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

This just in, Lebron is pretty good.

But back to being not clutch.

kingfc22 · 06-04-2015, 10:47 PM

Kyrie storyline for Game 2 will be huge. Obviously.

miami_fan · 06-04-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

But back to being not clutch.

Well at least he did not make a pass this time

cuervo72 · 06-04-2015, 10:53 PM

Someone should fish LeBron's sleeve out of that trash can.

nol · 06-04-2015, 11:35 PM

That sounds like a hell of a game to have missed out on. It seems like Kyrie's injury is pretty significant; if not an ACL, it doesn't seem like his chances of returning this series are too good.

The Warriors' depth definitely won it for them. If Draymond is in foul trouble or can't handle LeBron, they have a former All-Star and team USA member to go to off the bench.

Vince, Pt. II · 06-05-2015, 12:13 AM

Whew. I can't believe that Shumpert's shot almost went in at the end. I also can't believe that it missed.

What a game.

stevew · 06-05-2015, 02:51 AM

That was pretty much the best chance we had of winning a game.

Kodos · 06-05-2015, 06:39 AM

Nobody will ever accuse you of being a relentless optimist.

stevew · 06-05-2015, 07:56 AM

Kyrie is probably out for the series. LeBron put up 40 and we still lost.

Logan · 06-05-2015, 07:59 AM

Am I allowed to legitimately question why LeBron would settle for that long shot at the end of regulation with all that open space, WITHOUT trying to claim that he's a fraud and deserves all the world's scorn?

Vince, Pt. II · 06-05-2015, 09:18 AM

He hit a similar shot to beat Golden State in the regular season.

Chief Rum · 06-05-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

He hit a similar shot to beat Golden State in the regular season.

That wasn't a good shot, wherever and whenever he took it and regardless of result.

miami_fan · 06-05-2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Am I allowed to legitimately question why LeBron would settle for that long shot at the end of regulation with all that open space, WITHOUT trying to claim that he's a fraud and deserves all the world's scorn?

With that iteration of Lebron, absolutely. The only thing I can guess is that he didn't think he would get a call when the inevitable contact happened. Well that and he was just gassed. This lost IS on Lebron, if only because the offense last night was iso-Lebron and offensive rebounds. If coach Lebron gets credit for that in the Eastern Conference semifinals and finals game plans , he has to be blamed for the game plan last night. I would like to see him go back to the guy who draws the defense to him and kicks to open teammates a bit more often.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-05-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I would like to see him go back to the guy who draws the defense to him and kicks to open teammates a bit more often.

He didn't get much help last night aside from Kyrie & Mozgov.

Given the output of Cavs other than those, last night, LBJ from half court was probably a better option than most of the roster.

miami_fan · 06-05-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

He didn't get much help last night aside from Kyrie & Mozgov.

Given the output of Cavs other than those, last night, LBJ from half court was probably a better option than most of the roster.

It could be a chicken or the egg thing. It could be argued that he had to go iso because he was not getting any help. It could also be argued that he did not get help because he was so insistent on going iso. It just felt like he wanted to prove that he could be just like... well you know...the other #23.

stevew · 06-05-2015, 04:25 PM

Fml, kyrie fractured kneecap

Groundhog · 06-05-2015, 04:33 PM

Welp, basically rolling out the pre-LBJ@MIA Cavs now with Kyrie out. Hard to criticize a guy who dropped 44, but I too many iso-LBJ plays down the stretch that led to him throwing it to mozgov to finish. I also have no idea why LBJ continues to do his 'two-jab-step then fire the long j' when he's about 90% on post-ups where he attacks the basket rather than fades away.

Oh well, get to cheer for Delly as a starter at least - Aussies starting for both teams is pretty special.

nol · 06-05-2015, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

It could be a chicken or the egg thing. It could be argued that he had to go iso because he was not getting any help. It could also be argued that he did not get help because he was so insistent on going iso. It just felt like he wanted to prove that he could be just like... well you know...the other #23.

It's definitely the egg (or whichever of the two corresponds to Cleveland players missing a lot of good looks off of LeBron feeds). Either way, Iso-LeBron + offensive rebounds was 1 bucket away from beating the best basketball team of the past 20 years.

albionmoonlight · 06-06-2015, 07:09 AM

If Love leaves in the offseason and Kyrie's knee prevents him from ever being "Kyrie" again, then Cleveland ended up becoming "LeBron and spare parts" more quickly than anyone could have predicted.

Or, Love could come back, Kyrie could heal, and the team could win 65 games in the East on their way to a title.

bhlloy · 06-07-2015, 07:29 PM

I'm not sure if MJ could get this series to 6. That has got to be the worst starting lineup in NBA finals history.

nol · 06-07-2015, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm not sure if MJ could get this series to 6. That has got to be the worst starting lineup in NBA finals history.

I was gonna say this series isn't as 'over' as people think. I mean, it's very unlikely the Cavs win after the Irving injury but not a foregone conclusion that it's going to be a sweep. The lineup with LeBron, Smith, and Shumpert as the 3 guards was going to be their best chance, so the starting lineup comment still holds water since Dellavedova has looked like a D-leaguer this entire series.

edit: for all the crap David Blatt has gotten, the Cavs have a pretty good defensive game plan for the series

stevew · 06-07-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm not sure if MJ could get this series to 6. That has got to be the worst starting lineup in NBA finals history.

This is like that Melo team from Syracuse

stevew · 06-07-2015, 09:23 PM

Cool, face punching is legal now.

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Cool, face punching is legal now.

And so is elbowing the defender who isn't near you before shooting.

RainMaker · 06-07-2015, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm not sure if MJ could get this series to 6. That has got to be the worst starting lineup in NBA finals history.

The 98 Bulls supporting cast was pretty bad by the time the Finals came around.

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:36 PM

Cavs defense has been very good tonight making Steph non-existent.

RainMaker · 06-07-2015, 09:37 PM

One team has Lebron and the other team doesn't.

stevew · 06-07-2015, 09:41 PM

So we only have 10 healthy players now, right? Rosters lock at 12 for the whole playoffs right?

bhlloy · 06-07-2015, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

The 98 Bulls supporting cast was pretty bad by the time the Finals came around.

Harper, MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Longley according to Wikipedia. Just... No

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:45 PM

Warriors getting out rebounded by 13, shooting less than 26% from beyond the arc and yet are still very much in the game late. Dellavedova also +18 compared to Curry's -5

EagleFan · 06-07-2015, 09:47 PM

Soccer dive by James...

stevew · 06-07-2015, 09:47 PM

Live by JR die by JR

bhlloy · 06-07-2015, 09:48 PM

JR Smith is a fucking moron. If the Cavs can't win with Curry playing like this...

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:48 PM

JR Smith confirming he has a negative IQ

EagleFan · 06-07-2015, 09:52 PM

Wow, how do they leave that much space for Curry?

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:53 PM

Even if the Cavs find a way to win this, I don't see it happening 3 more times.

This one shouldn't even be close.

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 09:54 PM

Guess he should have taken a jumper.

Edit: pure sarcasm by the way. I like this choice much better but I'm sure the media will ask him 30 times about it.

miami_fan · 06-07-2015, 09:58 PM

The Cavs are asking a lot of Curry to be bad for five straight quarters.

stevew · 06-07-2015, 09:59 PM

Caveman ball is so hard to watch. But it's not like we got any other options

nol · 06-07-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Harper, MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Longley according to Wikipedia. Just... No

Yeah, 2/5ths of the crunch time lineup was playing on the worst team in the league earlier this season, and Mozgov was not tearing it up for Denver either. Ron Harper was at least someone who looked like a star for a crappy team, and that's not even getting into Pippen being one of the top 20-30 players of all time.

kingfc22 · 06-07-2015, 10:04 PM

Dellavedova is one tough SOB. Give him JR's athleticism and you'd have yourself one hell of a player.

stevew · 06-07-2015, 10:06 PM

Good job good effort refs

06-02-2015, 10:11 AM	#401
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	I disagree. This is the finals, i want the players in the best possible condition. This is maybe the first time in months some of these guys got some real rest and as a team maybe got to run a few real practices. The schedule is insane enough as it is __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

06-02-2015, 10:53 AM	#402
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	This is what happens when the conference finals opponents suck and lose quickly to the better teams. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

06-04-2015, 10:13 PM	#408
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	This just in, Lebron is pretty good. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-04-2015, 10:47 PM	#410
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Kyrie storyline for Game 2 will be huge. Obviously. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-04-2015, 10:53 PM	#412
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Someone should fish LeBron's sleeve out of that trash can. __________________ null

06-02-2015, 11:03 AM	#403
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Yeah, my initial reaction was the same as stevew's, but I've come around. The time off has been great for both teams, and are we really in a hurry for the season to end?

06-02-2015, 12:35 PM	#404
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	When the question is "when is the last time my team won" and the answer is "40 years ago" or "never", you absolutely want to get on with playing this thing out ASAP

06-02-2015, 01:12 PM	#405
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	My team hasn't won in 40 years. The delay has allowed one of my team's most important players to get healthier. I have literally zero problem with the delay.

06-02-2015, 01:19 PM	#406
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Eh, I'm in a hurry for it to end, but for the reason that -- no disrespect -- I think the result is about as much a foregone conclusion as an NBA Finals can be. But I don't think the time off is such a bad thing either . A reward for getting your business done allowing you to get healthy for the final clash? Nothing wrong with that IMO.

06-02-2015, 04:14 PM	#407
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Of course Klay is free of any concussion type symptoms. As if there was any doubt.

06-04-2015, 11:35 PM	#413
nol Banned Join Date: Oct 2003	That sounds like a hell of a game to have missed out on. It seems like Kyrie's injury is pretty significant; if not an ACL, it doesn't seem like his chances of returning this series are too good. The Warriors' depth definitely won it for them. If Draymond is in foul trouble or can't handle LeBron, they have a former All-Star and team USA member to go to off the bench.

06-05-2015, 12:13 AM	#414
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Whew. I can't believe that Shumpert's shot almost went in at the end. I also can't believe that it missed. What a game.

06-05-2015, 02:51 AM	#415
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	That was pretty much the best chance we had of winning a game.

06-05-2015, 06:39 AM	#416
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Nobody will ever accuse you of being a relentless optimist. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

06-05-2015, 07:56 AM	#417
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Kyrie is probably out for the series. LeBron put up 40 and we still lost.

06-05-2015, 07:59 AM	#418
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Am I allowed to legitimately question why LeBron would settle for that long shot at the end of regulation with all that open space, WITHOUT trying to claim that he's a fraud and deserves all the world's scorn?

06-05-2015, 09:18 AM	#419
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	He hit a similar shot to beat Golden State in the regular season.

06-05-2015, 04:25 PM	#424
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fml, kyrie fractured kneecap

06-05-2015, 04:33 PM	#425
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Welp, basically rolling out the pre-LBJ@MIA Cavs now with Kyrie out. Hard to criticize a guy who dropped 44, but I too many iso-LBJ plays down the stretch that led to him throwing it to mozgov to finish. I also have no idea why LBJ continues to do his 'two-jab-step then fire the long j' when he's about 90% on post-ups where he attacks the basket rather than fades away. Oh well, get to cheer for Delly as a starter at least - Aussies starting for both teams is pretty special. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-06-2015, 07:09 AM	#427
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	If Love leaves in the offseason and Kyrie's knee prevents him from ever being "Kyrie" again, then Cleveland ended up becoming "LeBron and spare parts" more quickly than anyone could have predicted. Or, Love could come back, Kyrie could heal, and the team could win 65 games in the East on their way to a title.

06-07-2015, 07:29 PM	#428
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm not sure if MJ could get this series to 6. That has got to be the worst starting lineup in NBA finals history.

06-07-2015, 09:23 PM	#431
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Cool, face punching is legal now.

06-07-2015, 09:36 PM	#434
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Cavs defense has been very good tonight making Steph non-existent. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-07-2015, 09:37 PM	#435
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	One team has Lebron and the other team doesn't.

06-07-2015, 09:41 PM	#436
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So we only have 10 healthy players now, right? Rosters lock at 12 for the whole playoffs right?

06-07-2015, 09:45 PM	#438
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Warriors getting out rebounded by 13, shooting less than 26% from beyond the arc and yet are still very much in the game late. Dellavedova also +18 compared to Curry's -5 __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-07-2015, 09:47 PM	#439
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06-07-2015, 09:47 PM	#440
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Live by JR die by JR

06-07-2015, 09:48 PM	#441
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	JR Smith is a fucking moron. If the Cavs can't win with Curry playing like this...

06-07-2015, 09:48 PM	#442
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	JR Smith confirming he has a negative IQ __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-07-2015, 09:52 PM	#443
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wow, how do they leave that much space for Curry? __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

06-07-2015, 09:53 PM	#444
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Even if the Cavs find a way to win this, I don't see it happening 3 more times. This one shouldn't even be close. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-07-2015, 09:54 PM	#445
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Guess he should have taken a jumper. Edit: pure sarcasm by the way. I like this choice much better but I'm sure the media will ask him 30 times about it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 06-07-2015 at 09:55 PM.

06-07-2015, 09:58 PM	#446
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	The Cavs are asking a lot of Curry to be bad for five straight quarters. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-07-2015, 09:59 PM	#447
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Caveman ball is so hard to watch. But it's not like we got any other options