NFL 2019 Season Thread - Page 14

BishopMVP · 09-22-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I think the hypocrisy that he highlights regarding Roethlisberger is even more on point.

Yeah, it's not "fair", but it's normal for owners to have different repercussions than players.

The Roethlisberger stuff was a long time ago, and anything pre Ray Rice was a different standard, plus Brown also wasn't released because of the allegations, he was released because he kept sending texts to the accusers, but he's delusional so who knows if he understands that.

Good call on Tepper Steve.

BishopMVP · 09-22-2019, 02:40 PM

Actual football wise, interesting call by the Ravens to to for two down 30-19. I don't hate it because even after failure you have a 2nd chance to go for it if KC doesn't score, but I'm super aggressive on 2-pt decisions, and Baltimore hasn't been consistent on O today.

Also, I might jinx them, but is Detroit actually good? A win today would be big for the future wild card race.

Atocep · 09-22-2019, 02:52 PM

Rosen is not a good QB.

sabotai · 09-22-2019, 03:41 PM

Fun fact for all non-Giants fans. In 9 quarters of play in 2019, the Giants defense has given up 1000+ yards, and have ZERO takeaways.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-22-2019, 04:15 PM

Someone should tell the 49ers to stop turning the ball over. 2 INTs and 2 Fumbles Lost in the first 18.5 minutes of the game.

PilotMan · 09-22-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Someone should tell the 49ers to stop turning the ball over. 2 INTs and 2 Fumbles Lost in the first 18.5 minutes of the game.

It's a good thing for you that the Steelers look like they have no idea how offense works.

Lathum · 09-22-2019, 04:26 PM

Saquon Barkley being carried off...

SirFozzie · 09-22-2019, 04:43 PM

Ok, if you're a betting man, and you had the Pats -21 and the Under of 43.5, you must be... perturbed right now.

sabotai · 09-22-2019, 04:58 PM

Tampa Bay had under 300 yards off offense in their first 2 games. They had 322 yards of offense in just the first half against the Giants.

sabotai · 09-22-2019, 05:21 PM

At least Daniel Jones looks really good so far. He has a fumble, and a dropped pick, but overall he's looked very good.

Lathum · 09-22-2019, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Ok, if you're a betting man, and you had the Pats -21 and the Under of 43.5, you must be... perturbed right now.

There is a thread dedicated to sports betting, would love to see you there!

Lathum · 09-22-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

At least Daniel Jones looks really good so far. He has a fumble, and a dropped pick, but overall he's looked very good.

I was just telling my wife he looks like he belongs. Obviously will have growing pains but he doesn't look overwhelmed by the stage or speed of the game. Really happy with what I am seeing. I loved Jones coming out and wanted the Giants to take him, but thought they could have got him at 18.

jbergey22 · 09-22-2019, 06:02 PM

These Steelers want to lose so bad but the 49ers just wont let them.

BishopMVP · 09-22-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I was just telling my wife he looks like he belongs. Obviously will have growing pains but he doesn't look overwhelmed by the stage or speed of the game. Really happy with what I am seeing. I loved Jones coming out and wanted the Giants to take him, but thought they could have got him at 18.

Yeah, i think he was an overdraft at 6, but I coached briefly at Charlotte Latin a year after he went there & everyone had amazing things to say about him. Might've been the smartest kid in the school (committed to Princeton before Duke offered), humble, great work ethic, nice person.

Also, that Seattle/NO non-PI on review is why this half measure system is an abomination. "Pass interference" can be reviewed, but since the ball hadn't left Wilson's hand it would be defensive holding & that's not up for review? Okay then.

stevew · 09-22-2019, 06:04 PM

I wonder if the Steelers could trade for Bell back.

jbergey22 · 09-22-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I was just telling my wife he looks like he belongs. Obviously will have growing pains but he doesn't look overwhelmed by the stage or speed of the game. Really happy with what I am seeing. I loved Jones coming out and wanted the Giants to take him, but thought they could have got him at 18.

I like his pocket presence(despite the fumbles) and anticipation. All the great ones have it. That pass to Shepard is the type of play very few QBs can anticipate. Really didnt have much there but he made the perfect pass.

stevew · 09-22-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

These Steelers want to lose so bad but the 49ers just wont let them.

Hold my beer

jbergey22 · 09-22-2019, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Hold my beer

These two can battle it out with the Dolphins and Jets for the toilet bowl this year. WOW.

Edit to Add
Probably should put the Giants in there as well especially if Barkley is hurt for awhile.

I just checked and SF is 2-0? How? soon to be 3-0.

JPhillips · 09-22-2019, 06:16 PM

Bengals looking for the first pick, too.

NobodyHere · 09-22-2019, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Rosen is not a good QB.

I doubt even Brady would look good on that team.

PilotMan · 09-22-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Bengals looking for the first pick, too.

Idk, the 'Phins might get Pit's pick. How often do you go +5 on turnovers and find a way to lose the game?

sabotai · 09-22-2019, 06:20 PM

Danny Dimes! 2 through the air, 2 on the ground.

I fully expect the defense to screw this up and give up a game winning FG though.

EDIT: Well they certainly tried. Missed FG and Jones gets his first win.

Lathum · 09-22-2019, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Danny Dimes! 2 through the air, 2 on the ground.

I fully expect the defense to screw this up and give up a game winning FG though.

EDIT: Well they certainly tried. Missed FG and Jones gets his first win.

THE GIANTS ARE BACK BABY!!!

stevew · 09-22-2019, 06:40 PM

Chargers have a shit show at WR.

BishopMVP · 09-22-2019, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I doubt even Brady would look good on that team.

Brady wouldn't allow the OL to look that bad. Great leaders hold people to a standard, but Fitzpatrick & Rosen are put in an impossible spot where the players don't know who will be playing QB (or coaching, or GM'ing) in a year, so accountability is impossible to demand.

Thomkal · 09-22-2019, 07:34 PM

Sadly I have to put my beloved Cards in the mix for the #1 pick. No defense against a backup non-drafted QB and no offensive line to protect him. Can't imagine Murray will make it through the season without an injury

:sigh:

JPhillips · 09-22-2019, 08:01 PM

The Cleveland end zone stripes are an abomination.

jbergey22 · 09-22-2019, 10:30 PM

Browns really blew it late. Collinsworth couldnt stop bragging up Baker and I thought he was awful tonight. 1st down and goal at the 5 with 3 timeouts left and 40 seconds on the clock. The only good thing the Browns had done all night is run the ball... They run 0 run plays...

Aaron Donald looked like he was playing against a high school line. He dominated that game.

bhlloy · 09-23-2019, 12:05 AM

Some absolutely bizarre playcalling - 3 games in sure looks like Freddy is miles out of his depth running an NFL team

EagleFan · 09-23-2019, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

THE GIANTS ARE BACK BABY!!!

Glad no one is overreacting...

Butter · 09-23-2019, 09:11 AM

Steve Lindsay CBS on Twitter: "The most Philly soundbite goes to this guy who helped catch children thrown from a window during a fire.â€¦ "

"My man just started throwing babies out of the window, and we was catching 'em, unlike Agholor.”

Warhammer · 09-23-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Sadly I have to put my beloved Cards in the mix for the #1 pick. No defense against a backup non-drafted QB and no offensive line to protect him. Can't imagine Murray will make it through the season without an injury

:sigh:

Two games to go against the Rams defense, and they have a bad track record of ruining Cards QBs.

Thomkal · 09-23-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Two games to go against the Rams defense, and they have a bad track record of ruining Cards QBs.

Thanks for the reminder.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-23-2019, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter

Steve Lindsay CBS on Twitter: "The most Philly soundbite goes to this guy who helped catch children thrown from a window during a fire.â€¦ "

"My man just started throwing babies out of the window, and we was catching 'em, unlike Agholor.”

I thought this had to be a joke ... and then I saw the news clip on the fire.

{bows} That's quality.

Coffee Warlord · 09-23-2019, 08:16 PM

Announcers are (rightfully) shitting heavy on Trubisky tonight.

edit: Heh. And then Trubisky goes for 3 touchdowns in the half

RendeR · 09-23-2019, 11:28 PM

The BEngals are at least trying to play. The new system, the injuries on the o-line, the utter fart-bending-mind-blowing-stomach-shurning stupidity of bringing back Andre Smith at OT....

That said, 2 losses by a total of 5 points.

I'm not bitching, yet.

thesloppy · 09-26-2019, 07:21 PM

I've never quite understood/believed the idea of 'scripting the first 15 plays' in football. If it's 3rd&1 and your script says deep pass, or it's 3rd&12 and your script says inside run, that's what you call, regardless? How is that supposed to help you?

Jas_lov · 09-26-2019, 07:34 PM

The Eagles are the dirtiest team in the NFL, right up there with the Patriots. Refs need to get this under control.

thesloppy · 09-26-2019, 07:38 PM

I love Amazon's half-informed UK commentary team.

sabotai · 09-26-2019, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

If it's 3rd&1 and your script says deep pass

The "script" wouldn't have any plays that are solely one thing like "All Verts" or something like that. But even then, if it's 3rd and 1 and they don't want to run the play they scripted, they'll go to their "3rd and short" column.

Coaches do script the first 10-15 plays, but they don't stick to it regardless of the down and distance. If they have to come off it for a play, they will, and then go back to their script. This is how coaches make sure they give a defense a certain look a few times, and then later in the game they go back to it but do something different. I mean, they are plays they think will work, but they're also setting up the defense for later in the game.

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or it's 3rd&12 and your script says inside run, that's what you call, regardless?

No, that's what coaches mean when they talk about getting "off script" or "off schedule". It means they have to come off the normal plays they want to call and have to go to their "3rd and long" column. A few short drives with a few 3rd and longs, and now it's the 2nd quarter and they've only made it 5 plays into their script, and they're "off schedule".

thesloppy · 09-26-2019, 07:55 PM

Thx! All of that makes perfect sense...but also barely qualifies as 'scripting the first 15 plays' as it's presented & of course, no commentator has ever explained those caveats.

JPhillips · 09-26-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

The BEngals are at least trying to play. The new system, the injuries on the o-line, the utter fart-bending-mind-blowing-stomach-shurning stupidity of bringing back Andre Smith at OT....

That said, 2 losses by a total of 5 points.

I'm not bitching, yet.

I don't think anybody should get fired, but it's frustrating that, just like the Reds, the season is over almost before it began.

SirFozzie · 09-26-2019, 10:40 PM

That's the kinda hits they need to get rid of, no attempt to wrap up.

kingfc22 · 09-26-2019, 10:48 PM

Hope that kid is alright. Thats a scary looking hit

BishopMVP · 09-27-2019, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The Eagles are the dirtiest team in the NFL, right up there with the Patriots. Refs need to get this under control.

Weird ricochet shot.

The only really dirty on field Patriot player I can think of is hanging out in the studio every Sunday evening (and being the reasonable one, because Tony Dungy can go to hell with his holier than thou BS.)

Kodos · 09-27-2019, 06:37 AM

Tedy Bruschi says he’d target Arian Foster’s hamstring – ProFootballTalk

Kodos · 09-27-2019, 06:43 AM

Former Patriots defend Julian Edelman against 'dirty player' accusation | Boston.com

Kodos · 09-27-2019, 06:50 AM

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-en...kis-suspension

Kodos · 09-27-2019, 06:53 AM

The dirtiest teams in the NFL, ranked from No. 1 to No. 32 | FOX Sports

Qwikshot · 09-27-2019, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The Eagles are the dirtiest team in the NFL, right up there with the Patriots. Refs need to get this under control.

I disagree but their fan behavior ranks up there.

09-22-2019, 04:43 PM	#658
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09-22-2019, 06:16 PM	#669
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09-22-2019, 06:20 PM	#672
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Danny Dimes! 2 through the air, 2 on the ground. I fully expect the defense to screw this up and give up a game winning FG though. EDIT: Well they certainly tried. Missed FG and Jones gets his first win. Last edited by sabotai : 09-22-2019 at 06:27 PM.

09-22-2019, 07:34 PM	#676
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Sadly I have to put my beloved Cards in the mix for the #1 pick. No defense against a backup non-drafted QB and no offensive line to protect him. Can't imagine Murray will make it through the season without an injury :sigh: __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

09-22-2019, 08:01 PM	#677
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	The Cleveland end zone stripes are an abomination. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-22-2019, 02:40 PM	#652
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Actual football wise, interesting call by the Ravens to to for two down 30-19. I don't hate it because even after failure you have a 2nd chance to go for it if KC doesn't score, but I'm super aggressive on 2-pt decisions, and Baltimore hasn't been consistent on O today. Also, I might jinx them, but is Detroit actually good? A win today would be big for the future wild card race.

09-22-2019, 02:52 PM	#653
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Rosen is not a good QB.

09-22-2019, 03:41 PM	#654
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Fun fact for all non-Giants fans. In 9 quarters of play in 2019, the Giants defense has given up 1000+ yards, and have ZERO takeaways.

09-22-2019, 04:15 PM	#655
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Someone should tell the 49ers to stop turning the ball over. 2 INTs and 2 Fumbles Lost in the first 18.5 minutes of the game.

09-22-2019, 04:26 PM	#657
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Saquon Barkley being carried off...

09-22-2019, 04:58 PM	#659
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Tampa Bay had under 300 yards off offense in their first 2 games. They had 322 yards of offense in just the first half against the Giants.

09-22-2019, 05:21 PM	#660
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	At least Daniel Jones looks really good so far. He has a fumble, and a dropped pick, but overall he's looked very good.

09-22-2019, 06:02 PM	#663
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	These Steelers want to lose so bad but the 49ers just wont let them.

09-22-2019, 06:04 PM	#665
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder if the Steelers could trade for Bell back.

09-22-2019, 06:40 PM	#674
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Chargers have a shit show at WR.

09-22-2019, 10:30 PM	#678
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Browns really blew it late. Collinsworth couldnt stop bragging up Baker and I thought he was awful tonight. 1st down and goal at the 5 with 3 timeouts left and 40 seconds on the clock. The only good thing the Browns had done all night is run the ball... They run 0 run plays... Aaron Donald looked like he was playing against a high school line. He dominated that game. Last edited by jbergey22 : 09-22-2019 at 10:34 PM.

09-23-2019, 12:05 AM	#679
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Some absolutely bizarre playcalling - 3 games in sure looks like Freddy is miles out of his depth running an NFL team

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Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Steve Lindsay CBS on Twitter: "The most Philly soundbite goes to this guy who helped catch children thrown from a window during a fire.â€¦ " "My man just started throwing babies out of the window, and we was catching 'em, unlike Agholor.” __________________ My listening habits

09-23-2019, 08:16 PM	#685
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Announcers are (rightfully) shitting heavy on Trubisky tonight. edit: Heh. And then Trubisky goes for 3 touchdowns in the half Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 09-23-2019 at 08:42 PM.

09-23-2019, 11:28 PM	#686
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	The BEngals are at least trying to play. The new system, the injuries on the o-line, the utter fart-bending-mind-blowing-stomach-shurning stupidity of bringing back Andre Smith at OT.... That said, 2 losses by a total of 5 points. I'm not bitching, yet. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

09-26-2019, 07:21 PM	#687
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I've never quite understood/believed the idea of 'scripting the first 15 plays' in football. If it's 3rd&1 and your script says deep pass, or it's 3rd&12 and your script says inside run, that's what you call, regardless? How is that supposed to help you? __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-26-2019, 07:34 PM	#688
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The Eagles are the dirtiest team in the NFL, right up there with the Patriots. Refs need to get this under control.

09-26-2019, 07:38 PM	#689
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I love Amazon's half-informed UK commentary team. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-26-2019, 07:55 PM	#691
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Thx! All of that makes perfect sense...but also barely qualifies as 'scripting the first 15 plays' as it's presented & of course, no commentator has ever explained those caveats. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM. Last edited by thesloppy : 09-26-2019 at 07:56 PM.

09-26-2019, 10:40 PM	#693
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