The Ladder 2011 Season Thread - Page 2

MacroGuru · 10-30-2011, 10:01 PM

Ugh...I am having issues loading the Dynasty, I was dumped...now I am trying to get back in and it's hanging..

Eaglesfan27 · 10-30-2011, 10:06 PM

Sorry, I fell asleep watching the Eagles game. I will look to see if you are still around.

MacroGuru · 10-30-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Sorry, I fell asleep watching the Eagles game. I will look to see if you are still around.

No worries...I am having some serious issues with the game right now.

I was on, just finished recruiting, uploaded, that went through...was waiting for you and it dumped me...now whenever I go to the dyansty, I hit the button to load it and it hangs up, freezes my entire xbox...I have to power the device to get to do anything.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-30-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

No worries...I am having some serious issues with the game right now.

I was on, just finished recruiting, uploaded, that went through...was waiting for you and it dumped me...now whenever I go to the dyansty, I hit the button to load it and it hangs up, freezes my entire xbox...I have to power the device to get to do anything.

Hmm, that doesn't sound good. You want me to wait a few minutes to see if you can get it going?

MacroGuru · 10-30-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Hmm, that doesn't sound good. You want me to wait a few minutes to see if you can get it going?

Yes please

MacroGuru · 10-30-2011, 10:19 PM

I think I am hosed here...I am reading around and no one has a fix for this at all as far as I can tell...

Eaglesfan27 · 10-30-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

I think I am hosed here...I am reading around and no one has a fix for this at all as far as I can tell...

Darn. I'll be around for 20-30 minutes. PM if you get it worked out and want to play tonight. Otherwise, we can try again tomorrow or Tuesday (assuming Kodos will extend the deadline.)

MacroGuru · 10-30-2011, 10:25 PM

yeah...I think I am done with it.

Kodos... need some help here...best thing I can think of is retiring from the league or something...right now...I am up a creek without a paddle, there is no fix, EA is looking into it...and I am frustrated.

Kodos · 10-31-2011, 07:39 AM

That sucks. Do you want me to boot you and then re-invite you?

MacroGuru · 10-31-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

That sucks. Do you want me to boot you and then re-invite you?

Yes please...I will see if that works...when I get home...is there a chance you can switch up mine and Eaglefans schedules to where we play each other at a later date just in case...or he can play against the bot me until I get this resolved...

Which I am fine with too...

gstelmack · 10-31-2011, 08:10 AM

I wonder if you could try basically deleting the game from the HD (including saves) and try again, that ought to force it to redownload the dynasty but you'll lose other saves as well.

Kodos · 10-31-2011, 10:16 AM

Unfortunately, the schedules are set once the season begins. We'll move back the deadline to give you guys another chance to play.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-31-2011, 02:50 PM

Tuesday night around 10 or 10:30 is next best time for me. Can also do that time on weds or Thursday if you need.

MacroGuru · 10-31-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Tuesday night around 10 or 10:30 is next best time for me. Can also do that time on weds or Thursday if you need.

1030 pm EST any night is fine with me..We will find out tonight if the Kodos boot and reinvite works, the next step would be to try the delete everything and have Kodos reinvite again.

Kodos · 10-31-2011, 08:46 PM

Macro has been booted and reinvited. Good luck, Mac. Hope this fixes things.

MacroGuru · 11-01-2011, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Macro has been booted and reinvited. Good luck, Mac. Hope this fixes things.

It didn't initially, I went into the game data and deleted the online dynasty and the save game that was associated with it.

That worked. So I am back in the Dynasty and ready to play tonight...

Eaglesfan27, tonight at 1030 ok?

Eaglesfan27 · 11-01-2011, 10:30 PM

USC beat Buffalo 56-0. We are all set to advance. Thanks for waiting, Kodos.

MacroGuru · 11-01-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC beat Buffalo 56-0. We are all set to advance. Thanks for waiting, Kodos.

GG EF27...I got my ass kicked....

My team was no competition here...I was getting blown off the line on both sides of the ball...

Kodos · 11-01-2011, 11:04 PM

I think you have by far the weakest roster. Buffalo's roster is just dismal.

Kodos · 11-01-2011, 11:10 PM

The slate is small in Week 5. I should be able to play Thursday night. With luck, we can advance before the weekend.

Indiana at Idaho
UCF at USF

gstelmack · 11-02-2011, 07:16 AM

I'll play either tonight or tomorrow night, and will get recruiting done today at work using the web while builds are running...

MacroGuru · 11-02-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I think you have by far the weakest roster. Buffalo's roster is just dismal.

I had the semblance of the running game and had to go hurry up offense several times to take advantage of the mis match, but he made me pay for it.

When I say blown off the line...His lineman were planting my guys on the ground or taking them 5 to 10 yards down field.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-02-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

I had the semblance of the running game and had to go hurry up offense several times to take advantage of the mis match, but he made me pay for it.

When I say blown off the line...His lineman were planting my guys on the ground or taking them 5 to 10 yards down field.

Yeah, the talent disparity was HUGE. I couldn't believe when I saw that your roster was "D" rating in all areas. Despite the talent difference, you played strong pass defense before I realized I could/should just rely on the running game.

gstelmack · 11-03-2011, 07:30 AM

Quite the barnburner for our home rival matchup with UCF, in part thanks to the rain. 19-3 win for us, 6-3 at half, my receivers couldn't catch hardly anything. All the INTs were in their half of the field, so mine didn't hurt me too much and there's led directly to points. Also got some nice punt returns, so we turned the field position game into 4 FGs and one TD. Glad to eke out the win, but not much offense for the crowd, and because of all the incompletions the game took forever to play.

Kodos · 11-03-2011, 06:44 PM

Welp, I tried the recruiting by PC feature, and twice it fucked up and screwed me out of recruiting time. Stupid EA.

Kodos · 11-03-2011, 10:41 PM

Down 21-14, less than 30 seconds left, we were inside their 5 yard line with no timeouts left. In the hurry-up, I called a run play trying to catch them off guard. They were playing the run, and I should have audibled to a pass, but I ran the play, they stuffed it and forced a fumble, and that was it for us. Stupid Vandals.

MacroGuru · 11-04-2011, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Welp, I tried the recruiting by PC feature, and twice it fucked up and screwed me out of recruiting time. Stupid EA.

I run my own OD just for personal so I could recruit from work and such...after being screwed out of it twice as well...I always do it from the game....it's a great concept, just not executed properly.

chesapeake · 11-04-2011, 09:30 AM

I was able to recruit this week on my pc without a hitch, but I have had blown phone calls before, so I sympathize.

gstelmack · 11-04-2011, 09:32 AM

I haven't had an issue yet, although I did in-game this last time due to other circumstances.

TRO · 11-04-2011, 10:12 AM

I did it on PC this week. Blew one phone call and then figured out that it was my fault.

Apparently, if you scroll to bottom of recruit list and click the call button, the screen stays at that scroll level and looks like the page never loads. Of course, I hit reload and blew the call.

The next time it happened, I realized the page was scrolled down, so I scrolled up and everything was good. Happened to me several times, pain in the A, but at least I got it all done.

Kodos · 11-04-2011, 04:31 PM

So are we set to move on to the next week now?

cartman · 11-05-2011, 03:29 PM

I got my recruiting done for the week last night.

Kodos · 11-05-2011, 05:14 PM

Looks like EF27 still has his recruiting to do and then we'll be set to move forward.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-05-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Looks like EF27 still has his recruiting to do and then we'll be set to move forward.

Oops. I'll take care of it right after the Alabama-LSU game.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-05-2011, 11:11 PM

All done.

Kodos · 11-05-2011, 11:38 PM

On to Week 6! Here is our slate of games:

Buffalo at Idaho
Kansas at Western Kentucky
Toledo at Duke
Rice at UL Lafayette
USC at UL Monroe

MacroGuru · 11-06-2011, 11:27 PM

I will try and get my game and recruiting in tomorrow. I am out of town dealing with work and family stuff until Sunday after that.

MacroGuru · 11-08-2011, 05:26 AM

Yeah, had my ass handed to me 51 - 3 by Idaho. It's fun to watch, it's like my linemen are on roller skates...it's quite frustrating and I will finish my recruiting tonight, via the web.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-10-2011, 07:08 AM

If possible, I need a day extension. My grandmother has been in the hospital the last few days (3rd time in 2 weeks

) and between family, girlfriend, and work stuff I've been swamped. But, I know I have some free time tomorrow evening to get the game in.

Kodos · 11-10-2011, 07:36 AM

No problem. We can wait. I hope your grandmother's health takes a turn for the better soon.

Kodos · 11-12-2011, 08:47 PM

On to Week 7!

Here's our slate:

North Texas at Indiana
Kansas State at Kansas
Duke at Yale
South Florida at Utah State
FIU at Rice

Kodos · 11-12-2011, 08:51 PM

Week 7 Coaches Poll

Code:

Rank	Prev	TeamName	Wins	Losses	FPV	Points
1	1	Oklahoma	4	0	41	1505
2	2	Mississippi St	4	0	20	1505
3	3	Oregon		4	1	0	1183
4	5	Stanford	4	1	0	1104
5	6	Wisconsin	4	1	0	1065
6	7	Boise State	2	1	0	1015
7	8	Texas A&M	4	1	0	986
8	14	Oklahoma State	3	2	0	843
9	12	Florida State	3	2	0	802
10	4	Auburn		3	2	0	779
11	17	South Carolina	4	2	0	735
12	18	Baylor		3	0	0	720
13	15	Arkansas	3	2	0	685
14	10	Texas		3	2	0	674
15	22	Penn State	3	0	0	649
16	16	LSU		2	3	0	630
17	23	Utah		3	0	0	541
18	19	Michigan State	2	2	0	520
19	9	Virginia Tech	3	2	0	518
20	11	Alabama		2	3	0	491
21	20	TCU		3	2	0	489
22	13	Ohio State	2	3	0	389
23	25	West Virginia	5	1	0	362
24	28	Connecticut	2	0	0	356
25	32	Miami		5	0	0	276

Kodos · 11-14-2011, 12:13 PM

Indiana, as has been the pattern this season, fell behind with a slow start. After a couple of turnovers, we were down 20-0 early in the third quarter. From there, our defense stiffened, and our offense started to make some plays. Colin Broussard's second rushing TD of the game put us on top for good.

Final score:

North Texas 20
IU 21

gstelmack · 11-15-2011, 06:58 AM

24-14 over Utah State. We blew a coverage early that led to their first TD, then shut them down until late in the 4th quarter. We scored often in the first half, then missed a pair of FGs in the second half. We moved the ball some, just could not build much on the early lead. But our defense earned the win.

Also got a HB to sign, and a ton of folks coming to town for our week 9 date against Central Michigan. Better not lay an egg there.

chesapeake · 11-15-2011, 09:58 AM

I fumbled on my first play from scrimmage and it was returned for a TD. I also had an extra point blocked and shanked another. However, scoring 7 TDs is an excellent tonic for just about any ailment. Duke 46 - Yale 28. It's a little payback to those bastards for denying me admission 20+ years ago.

TRO · 11-15-2011, 10:17 AM

I will try to pull myself away from the world of Dragons to get my week in tonight.

cartman · 11-15-2011, 04:01 PM

I'm not going to be back home until Thursday evening, but I should be back in time to get the game played by the deadline. I'll post before starting.

cartman · 11-17-2011, 06:24 PM

About to fire up the Xbox and play.

Kodos · 11-17-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TRO

I will try to pull myself away from the world of Dragons to get my week in tonight.

Time... running... out!

TRO · 11-18-2011, 12:15 AM

I got it in. Couldn't hold on to the ball and lost 31-21.

10-30-2011, 10:06 PM	#52
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Sorry, I fell asleep watching the Eagles game. I will look to see if you are still around. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-30-2011, 10:19 PM	#56
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I think I am hosed here...I am reading around and no one has a fix for this at all as far as I can tell... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

10-30-2011, 10:25 PM	#58
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	yeah...I think I am done with it. Kodos... need some help here...best thing I can think of is retiring from the league or something...right now...I am up a creek without a paddle, there is no fix, EA is looking into it...and I am frustrated. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

10-31-2011, 07:39 AM	#59
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	That sucks. Do you want me to boot you and then re-invite you? __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-31-2011, 08:10 AM	#61
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I wonder if you could try basically deleting the game from the HD (including saves) and try again, that ought to force it to redownload the dynasty but you'll lose other saves as well. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

10-31-2011, 10:16 AM	#62
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Unfortunately, the schedules are set once the season begins. We'll move back the deadline to give you guys another chance to play. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-31-2011, 02:50 PM	#63
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Tuesday night around 10 or 10:30 is next best time for me. Can also do that time on weds or Thursday if you need. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-31-2011, 08:46 PM	#65
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Macro has been booted and reinvited. Good luck, Mac. Hope this fixes things. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-01-2011, 10:30 PM	#67
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	USC beat Buffalo 56-0. We are all set to advance. Thanks for waiting, Kodos. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-01-2011, 11:04 PM	#69
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think you have by far the weakest roster. Buffalo's roster is just dismal. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-01-2011, 11:10 PM	#70
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Week 5 - Deadline Sunday (11/6) at 11 p.m. EST The slate is small in Week 5. I should be able to play Thursday night. With luck, we can advance before the weekend. Indiana at Idaho UCF at USF __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-02-2011, 07:16 AM	#71
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I'll play either tonight or tomorrow night, and will get recruiting done today at work using the web while builds are running... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-03-2011, 07:30 AM	#74
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Quite the barnburner for our home rival matchup with UCF, in part thanks to the rain. 19-3 win for us, 6-3 at half, my receivers couldn't catch hardly anything. All the INTs were in their half of the field, so mine didn't hurt me too much and there's led directly to points. Also got some nice punt returns, so we turned the field position game into 4 FGs and one TD. Glad to eke out the win, but not much offense for the crowd, and because of all the incompletions the game took forever to play. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-03-2011, 06:44 PM	#75
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Welp, I tried the recruiting by PC feature, and twice it fucked up and screwed me out of recruiting time. Stupid EA. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-03-2011, 10:41 PM	#76
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Down 21-14, less than 30 seconds left, we were inside their 5 yard line with no timeouts left. In the hurry-up, I called a run play trying to catch them off guard. They were playing the run, and I should have audibled to a pass, but I ran the play, they stuffed it and forced a fumble, and that was it for us. Stupid Vandals. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 11-03-2011 at 10:42 PM.

11-04-2011, 09:30 AM	#78
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I was able to recruit this week on my pc without a hitch, but I have had blown phone calls before, so I sympathize.

11-04-2011, 09:32 AM	#79
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I haven't had an issue yet, although I did in-game this last time due to other circumstances. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-04-2011, 10:12 AM	#80
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	I did it on PC this week. Blew one phone call and then figured out that it was my fault. Apparently, if you scroll to bottom of recruit list and click the call button, the screen stays at that scroll level and looks like the page never loads. Of course, I hit reload and blew the call. The next time it happened, I realized the page was scrolled down, so I scrolled up and everything was good. Happened to me several times, pain in the A, but at least I got it all done. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

11-04-2011, 04:31 PM	#81
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	So are we set to move on to the next week now? __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-05-2011, 03:29 PM	#82
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I got my recruiting done for the week last night. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-05-2011, 05:14 PM	#83
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Looks like EF27 still has his recruiting to do and then we'll be set to move forward. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-05-2011, 11:11 PM	#85
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	All done. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-05-2011, 11:38 PM	#86
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Week 6 - Deadline Thursday (11/10) at 11 p.m. EST On to Week 6! Here is our slate of games: Buffalo at Idaho Kansas at Western Kentucky Toledo at Duke Rice at UL Lafayette USC at UL Monroe __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-06-2011, 11:27 PM	#87
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I will try and get my game and recruiting in tomorrow. I am out of town dealing with work and family stuff until Sunday after that. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

11-08-2011, 05:26 AM	#88
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Yeah, had my ass handed to me 51 - 3 by Idaho. It's fun to watch, it's like my linemen are on roller skates...it's quite frustrating and I will finish my recruiting tonight, via the web. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

11-10-2011, 07:08 AM	#89
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	If possible, I need a day extension. My grandmother has been in the hospital the last few days (3rd time in 2 weeks ) and between family, girlfriend, and work stuff I've been swamped. But, I know I have some free time tomorrow evening to get the game in. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-10-2011, 07:36 AM	#90
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	No problem. We can wait. I hope your grandmother's health takes a turn for the better soon. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-12-2011, 08:47 PM	#91
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Week 7 - Deadline Thursday (11/17) at 11 p.m. EST On to Week 7! Here's our slate: North Texas at Indiana Kansas State at Kansas Duke at Yale South Florida at Utah State FIU at Rice __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

11-14-2011, 12:13 PM	#93
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Indiana, as has been the pattern this season, fell behind with a slow start. After a couple of turnovers, we were down 20-0 early in the third quarter. From there, our defense stiffened, and our offense started to make some plays. Colin Broussard's second rushing TD of the game put us on top for good. Final score: North Texas 20 IU 21 Last edited by Kodos : 11-14-2011 at 12:15 PM.

11-15-2011, 06:58 AM	#94
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	24-14 over Utah State. We blew a coverage early that led to their first TD, then shut them down until late in the 4th quarter. We scored often in the first half, then missed a pair of FGs in the second half. We moved the ball some, just could not build much on the early lead. But our defense earned the win. Also got a HB to sign, and a ton of folks coming to town for our week 9 date against Central Michigan. Better not lay an egg there. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-15-2011, 09:58 AM	#95
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I fumbled on my first play from scrimmage and it was returned for a TD. I also had an extra point blocked and shanked another. However, scoring 7 TDs is an excellent tonic for just about any ailment. Duke 46 - Yale 28. It's a little payback to those bastards for denying me admission 20+ years ago.

11-15-2011, 10:17 AM	#96
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	I will try to pull myself away from the world of Dragons to get my week in tonight. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

11-15-2011, 04:01 PM	#97
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'm not going to be back home until Thursday evening, but I should be back in time to get the game played by the deadline. I'll post before starting. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-17-2011, 06:24 PM	#98
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	About to fire up the Xbox and play. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-18-2011, 12:15 AM	#100
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	I got it in. Couldn't hold on to the ball and lost 31-21. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape