Who wins House Speaker?

[Edward64]

The fun starts Tue 5pm ET and continues into Wed.

Jordan & Scalise are the top 2 contenders. McCarthy & Jeffries next. Hern dropped out on Sat.

House speaker race: What to know | CNN Politics

Monday at 6 p.m. ET: Republicans who left town will start returning for an in-person candidate debate and discussion during which Scalise and Jordan are expected to make their pitches to the conference.

Tuesday at 5 p.m. ET: The House GOP will hold an official candidate forum during which members will debate who is the best fit to take the gavel.

House Democrats will hold a similar forum on Tuesday to officially nominate their leader, Hakeem Jeffries, for speaker.

Wednesday 9 a.m. ET: House Republicans will hold an internal, secret-ballot election to officially select their nominee.

When will the official floor vote take place? This could happen as soon as Wednesday, but it will be up to whomever the GOP decides to officially nominate – starting the floor vote will be their call.

[Edward64]

Between Jordan & Scalise, I think Jordan has the edge because of Trump's endorsement.

[flere-imsaho]

1. How is this not a poll? Edit: Sorry, posted too fast - it's a poll now.

2.

[flere-imsaho]

I'm going with Jordan as well. Seems like he's managed to concoct the best PR at the right time.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

This one is a no-brainer to me, I'd go with Predator.

Aliens can make a lot of babies (in horrible ways). Predator is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils.

[flere-imsaho]

IMO, MAGA is definitely Alien and whatever's left of the Romney/Ryan GOP is Predator.

The latter wants to hunt you for sport, but will support those outliers who pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The former wants to eliminate literally everyone who isn't them, often in brutal and grotesque ways.

[Edward64]

McCarthy is not flat out saying "no".

No idea how serious this is, MSM seems to be playing it up some. It could get interesting (and entertaining) if he was nominated and there was some momentum behind it.

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The California Republican did not directly answer if he envisions a scenario in which he could be a candidate for Speaker; if he would accept a colleague nominating him for Speaker; or if he thinks he is the right person to lead the House in the current moment, considering his pro-Israel background.

“That’s a decision by the conference,” McCarthy said, relaying iterations of that multiple times.

He similarly deflected when asked if he would endorse either of the candidates running to replace him: House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).

But McCarthy, who hours after being ousted as Speaker said he would not run for the post again, was not shy about reminding reporters that the vast majority of the House GOP conference voted to keep him in the top spot last week.

“The only thing I would ask my conference, you have 96 percent of the conference in one place and you’re allowing 4 percent, with the Democrats playing politics, that now have putting the doubt inside this body,” McCarthy said. “That is wrong.”

EDIT:

Robert Costa
@costareports

several House GOP sources tell me McCarthy was approached several times over the weekend to consider standing for speaker if Scalise and Jordan fail to get the necessary votes this week... I'm told McCarthy is in listening-mode, not moving toward doing it yet but listening...

[JPhillips]

That guy would be happier if he just hired a dom to humiliate him

[Atocep]

I think there's too many hardline no's on Jordan within his own party. Scalise ends up being the compromise pick.

[GrantDawg]

It may be wishful thinking, but I still think there is going to be a moderate dark-horse that comes in and wins.

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

It may be wishful thinking, but I still think there is going to be a moderate dark-horse that comes in and wins.

This.

All the Democrats have to do is pick one moderate/centrist Republican that can get 8 of his/her colleagues to go along and it's done.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

This.

All the Democrats have to do is pick one moderate/centrist Republican that can get 8 of his/her colleagues to go along and it's done.

I think the issue with that is we're talking about people that generally crave power and value their seat in the House above the good of the country. Are there 8 republicans willing to go against the rest of the GOP and acknowledge that this would very likely be their last term?

It's a possibility but I don't think it's very likely. If I were putting odds on it I would say:

Scalise - 60%
Jordan - 20%
Field - 20%

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

That guy would be happier if he just hired a dom to humiliate him

Maybe he could use some RNC money to do it

RNC spent almost $2,000 at bondage-themed strip club | News | joplinglobe.com

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Maybe he could use some RNC money to do it

RNC spent almost $2,000 at bondage-themed strip club | News | joplinglobe.com

No kink shaming please. Slippery slope. Make fun of bondage themed strip clubs and what's next ... furries?

On other news, McCarthy has changed his tune.

McCarthy changed his tune Monday in an interview with conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, saying, “Whatever the conference wants, I will do.”

“Look, the conference has to make that decision,” McCarthy told Hewitt when asked if he would step up if the party was deadlocked.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Edward64

No kink shaming please. Slippery slope. Make fun of bondage themed strip clubs and what's next ... furries?

On other news, McCarthy has changed his tune.

What's your kink my dear Edward boy?

[Flasch186]

No one asked but my kink is sleep

3 kids
Own a business
After school activities from morning until night

A good nights sleep is the most satisfying thing I can think of

Where’s my melatonin?


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[Brian Swartz]

McCarthy being re-elected would be the most hilarious conclusion to this. Not rooting for chaos, but since chaos is upon us anyway and I can't say any of alternatives are definitively better ...

[RainMaker]

Are they going to change the vacate rule because I don't know why anyone would want the job with that rule in place.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

McCarthy being re-elected would be the most hilarious conclusion to this. Not rooting for chaos, but since chaos is upon us anyway and I can't say any of alternatives are definitively better ...

On one hand, I'd like to see McCarthy back and bring down some vengeance on Gaetz & crew. It'd be pretty interesting to see that play out.

On the other hand, we are where we are and not sure I believe in 2nd chances in this situation ... so although I think Jordan may win it, I'd prefer Scalise as he is more moderate.

[JPhillips]

Scalise called himself David Duke without the baggage.

Funny way to describe a moderate.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Scalise called himself David Duke without the baggage.

Funny way to describe a moderate.

If you had to pick 1 of the 3, who would you pick?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Edward64

If you had to pick 1 of the 3, who would you pick?

Meteor.

[JPhillips]

Why does one of them have to be a moderate? They are all extreme right.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Scalise called himself David Duke without the baggage.

Funny way to describe a moderate.

Also refused to certify the election. Not sure how far the Overton window has shifted if a pretty open fascist is considered a moderate.

[Atocep]

McCarthy is on the fringe of being a moderate and Scalise is considerably to the right of him. More moderate than Jim Jordan isn't really anything special.

Jordan is obviously a big no for Speaker, but Scalise isn't someone to celebrate.

[GrantDawg]

The Republicans specialize in persecution complex. Nancy Mace came out of the caucus meeting today with a scarlett "A" on her shirt.

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[JPhillips]

Somebody said the GOP is filled with people who aren't politicians but are Political Influencers. Everything is designed to boost engagement for the brand.

[Edward64]

Does anyone know if there is a live feed on House deliberations?

Don't have cable. I checked C-Span Live and didn't see it ... so maybe it's not open to the public?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The Republicans specialize in persecution complex. Nancy Mace came out of the caucus meeting today with a scarlett "A" on her shirt.

Funniest member of Congress. Never forget when she faked this for attention.




[Edward64]

From CNN "live" feed

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html

“I think both candidates are going to struggle to get to 218. But I don’t know exactly where their numbers are. It seems like they are both scrambling and they're both working hard. So I don't know if anyone is super confident right now,” he said.

Valadao said that both candidates sounded “open” to changing their rules so that more than one member is needed to call for the speaker to be ousted in the future.

He added that Scalise and Jordan both recognized they will have to compromise with the Senate on Ukraine aid.

“There was talk of Ukraine and it sounds like they all agree there is going to be some sort of compromise there,” he said

Valadao said he expects they will vote Wednesday on a new speaker, but noted that former Speaker Kevin McCarthy may still get some votes.

“He asked them not to nominate him, but I still think there are people who want to vote for him and people who would support him,” said Valadao.

[GrantDawg]

"Compromise on Ukraine". Yeah, I really think it will be tied to Israel. That will make it more palatable to the far Right.

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[albionmoonlight]

Santos just charged with stealing his donors’ identities and running up personal charges on their credit cards.

GOP now has a Speaker candidate who truly represents what the party is currently about.

[GrantDawg]

GOP has announced the selection rules. They are going to vote in the caucus behind closed doors. The first to get a majority but below the 217 requirement will then have to answer questions and they will have 2 secret ballot votes just on him. If they don't get 217 in either, there will be a 3rd and 4th open roll call vote. If they don't make it by the 5th, then new nominations can occur. In other words, they are trying to keep the selection Off the floor and out of the public eye.

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[Edward64]

Not quite as bad as electing a new pope.

I sure hope they pick one by tomorrow.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Not quite as bad as electing a new pope.

I sure hope they pick one by tomorrow.

Not a chace. If I was a betting man my money is on no earlier then Friday

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

In other words, they are trying to keep the selection Off the floor and out of the public eye.

Smart.

This really should not be this hard.

[Edward64]

Just an interesting tidbit from 45 min ago.

I too would like to know their answers to that question since they've had 3 years to reflect.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html

The House GOP is now voting on Reps. Steve Scalise vs. Jim Jordan for speaker nominee, according to multiple members.

One member, Colorado Rep. Ken Buck, told CNN he voted “present” since neither man would answer his question yesterday about whether the 2020 election was stolen.

[Ksyrup]

Magic 8 Ball Polls still say Bend Knee to Orange Man.

[Galaril]

Scalia won the secret ballot but just barely. The official chamber vote is still open to as to whether he will get the votes.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Scalia won the secret ballot but just barely. The official chamber vote is still open to as to whether he will get the votes.

A dead Justice is a bold choice. Better than Jim Jordan certainly.

[Thomkal]

David Duke beat out Denny Hastert as I saw one pundit put it. Trump rejected for Speaker and you know who is with him in Florida right now? Yep Matt Gaetz who started this mess won't even be there for the vote. Might be a good time for an expulsion vote on him

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

A dead Justice is a bold choice. Better than Jim Jordan certainly.

That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.

[Edward64]

113 to 99

Scalise is better than Jordan on Ukraine. Jordan being a Trump guy is just a bonus.

[Galaril]

Sounds like no vote today.SMH.

[Galaril]

I am wondering if Dems could steal the Speakership voting for Jefferies?

[GrantDawg]

Scalise is looking like far from a done deal, with already enough Republicans on the record saying they won't vote for him. I think it is likely he will win, because I think that there are a couple of no's that are soft, but there still might be a resurgent effort to Jordan elected.

[bronconick]

I think it'll take another day or two.

[GrantDawg]

"I can't support anyone, because this gets me more attention" -Nancy Mace translated


Mace: I will vote for Jim Jordan on the floor. I personally cannot, in good conscience, vote for someone who attended a white supremacist conference and compared himself to David Duke. . pic.twitter.com/PETIPInLxk

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 11, 2023

[Edward64]

Oh well, more fun Thu.

Members have been advised there are likely no additional votes in the House tonight as Speaker designate Steve Scalise and his team work behind the scenes to earn enough support for a floor vote.

[flere-imsaho]

Last I read there were already four GOPers who said they're not going to vote for Scalise in the floor vote, so given that it's early I'd expect more. Perhaps he thinks he can spend time and buy them off, but I'm sure a few of the holdouts are opposing on "ideological" grounds and won't be bought.