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Old 05-15-2015, 05:41 PM   #1
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Question The Perfect Human

Who throughout history would you put forward as closest to "the perfect human"? Brilliant, creative, athletic, attractive, noble, artistic -- impressive in all physical and mental attributes. Di Vinci? Ben Franklin?

Same question for the person alive today that is closest to "the perfect human"? Justin Timberlake? Pumpy Tudors?

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Old 05-15-2015, 06:07 PM   #2
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Da Vinci came to mind immediately.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:11 PM   #3
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My buddy and I have said for a few years now that Timberlake may be the single most talented person going these days, but I'm pretty sure he pales in comparison to some historical figures.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:20 PM   #4
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My vote for modern day person is Hugh Laurie.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:22 PM   #5
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Niklas Lidstrom. It is known.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:40 PM   #6
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:01 PM   #7
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:26 PM   #9
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:28 PM   #10
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:41 PM   #11
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Niklas Lidstrom. It is known.

You should have said Yzerman. Its right in your SIG!

Do we know enough about Di Vinci to give him the nod? He's got inventive and artistic maxxed but did he wrassle him a bear at an early age or anything? Was he funny? Any philanthropic endeavors?

Franklin was funny, Founding Father, inventive, by some accounts a ladies man or a lecherous old perv depending on the report but at least he was pulling it in, if you know what I mean.

How smart/creative/mentally impressive were Babe Ruth, Jim Thorpe, or (is ) Bo Jackson. I seem to recall that Bo Knows ... things...
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:55 PM   #12
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:21 PM   #13
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Historically is tough to do with ALL those attributes. Alexander the Great maybe.


Today? How about Natalie Portman. Supposedly has a high IQ. Definitely artistic, attractive, and seems like a fairly noble person.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:33 PM   #14
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Elizabeth I has a pretty good argument.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:11 PM   #15
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Alexander the Great was an alcoholic and he killed his best friend while drunk because he disagreed with him by stabbing him through the neck with a spear. As phenomenal as he was, no.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:18 PM   #16
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:19 PM   #17
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I would suggest Alan Turing if not for those AP Biology-style questions where the most "evolutionarily successful" individual is one who has created the most offspring.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:34 PM   #18
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Has to be Bruce Jenner.

Gold medal in the decathlon, attractive enough to grace a Wheaties box and nobly taking on that dysfunctional Kardashian clan. Finally, smart enough to know that he had to get really creative and turn into a woman to get away from those crazy fuckers.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:44 PM   #19
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Genghis Khan is up there. Conquered most of the known world, and reportedly 0.5% of all people on Earth are direct descendants of him.
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:06 PM   #23
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I'm going to question your definition of "perfect human."

You suggest that "Brilliant, creative, athletic, attractive, noble, artistic -- impressive in all physical and mental attributes" defines perfect human.

According to biblical theology, there has only been one "perfect human," and that's Jesus of Nazareth. Yet we are specifically told, contrary to Hollywood depictions, he was not a paragon of "attractiveness."

But going by your definition, I might suggest Michelangelo had the right idea when he made his sculpture - "brilliant, creative, athletic, attractive, noble, artistic" - King David of Israel.
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:23 PM   #24
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Probably Michelle Jenneke.

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Old 05-17-2015, 03:43 PM   #25
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Probably Michelle Jenneke.


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Old 05-17-2015, 03:59 PM   #26
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She became known through her dancing (which is a kind of art, I think) and appearance while competing at a high level physical competition. In addition to competing in Algeria she has modeled and studies engineering.

She clearly doesn't come close to reaching the levels of DaVinci in art and intellect or reach Bo Jackson/Babe Ruth levels of athletic achievements, but she seems to be well above average in most areas mentioned.

I'm wondering if in considering the perfect human how you go about considering all the categories. Is it good enough to be brilliant at two even if some other attributes are below average, or someone who is very good at all of them but no where near enough to even be considered the best at a single one. If it were known Da Vinci was a poor athlete or unattractive would he still be considered?

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Old 05-18-2015, 08:23 AM   #27
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She became known through her dancing (which is a kind of art, I think) and appearance while competing at a high level physical competition. In addition to competing in Algeria she has modeled and studies engineering.

She clearly doesn't come close to reaching the levels of DaVinci in art and intellect or reach Bo Jackson/Babe Ruth levels of athletic achievements, but she seems to be well above average in most areas mentioned.

I'm wondering if in considering the perfect human how you go about considering all the categories. Is it good enough to be brilliant at two even if some other attributes are below average, or someone who is very good at all of them but no where near enough to even be considered the best at a single one. If it were known Da Vinci was a poor athlete or unattractive would he still be considered?

Let's say aliens come down having never seen a human before. "I'm a human", you say.
"What's that mean?" barks their Universal Translator device.
"It's ... uh ....", you mumble.
"OK, we don't have time for this. The anal probe only has one charge left. Which one of you is the 'best' example of your race." This could determine whether we befriend the aliens or become their pets. Don't just offer up someone that you want to see anally probed.

As for rating each person, consider it multiplicative. For the math-challenged, ratings of 10*5*5 = 250, and 8*8*8=512. So, being the best in one or two categories and average elsewhere doesn't get you as much as being rated reasonably high, but maybe not the best, in all categories.
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