College Football Week 4 discussion

cartman · 09-15-2014, 03:30 PM

Two Top 25 matchups this week:

Auburn at Kansas State (Thursday night)
Clemson at Florida State

digamma · 09-15-2014, 03:52 PM

In the ACC, Georgia Tech also plays at Virginia Tech. Between GT, Clemson, VPI and FSU, they have taken up 14 of the 18 slots in the ACC championship games. So history makes this an important weekend even if the eye tests so far this season do not.

Kodos · 09-15-2014, 03:55 PM

Time for another ass-kicking from Missouri. Great...

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-15-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Time for another ass-kicking from Missouri. Great...

Not sure of forecast in mid-Missouri, but 80% chance of rain here on Saturday. Would make it a bit more interesting with a good storm during the game.

Matthean · 09-15-2014, 07:04 PM

Seems odd for the Big Ten to complain about how hard it is to schedule in conference games now and then have 4 OOC games to start the season. Here's the only Big Ten games with a pulse.

Miami(U) @ Nebraska
Utah @ Michigan
Iowa @ Pitt

Also of note, 'Bama welcomes Florida to the beginning of one nasty stretch run in their schedule.

tarcone · 09-15-2014, 07:24 PM

Iowa doesnt have a pulse. Boring, conservative, boring football. Pitt will roll Iowa.

tarcone · 09-15-2014, 08:15 PM

Cartman, does this look familiar? I think it was one you showed me that was burnt orange and white a couple years ago.

cartman · 09-15-2014, 09:14 PM

Yep, that is all too familiar. Davis is a very underrated QB coach, and a very overrated play caller.

tarcone · 09-15-2014, 09:38 PM

Its interesting you say he is an underrated QB coach. The QBs he has coached at Iowa have all regressed under him. I dont think he knows how to coach QBs.

cartman · 09-15-2014, 09:58 PM

He did a great job with them at Texas. Here is the list from his time there:

Major Applewhite
Chris Simms
Vince Young
Colt McCoy

They all had great improvement between when they came to campus and left, and he was the QB coach as well as the OC.

BishopMVP · 09-16-2014, 07:07 PM

Great front-page story from ESPN on Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah - Nebraska RB Ameer Abdullah an uncommon talent - ESPN

Figured we could use a positive story about a potential NFL RB right about now.

Lathum · 09-17-2014, 01:15 PM

FSU QB Jameis Winston suspended for the first half against Clemson | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo Sports

what an idiot.

Matthean · 09-17-2014, 01:24 PM

Gonna cost him some money come draft time.

Michigan and Texas will do a home and home in 2024 and 2027.

Lathum · 09-17-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Gonna cost him some money come draft time.

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I am having this very discussion with a coworker over work chat. He is going to cost himself a shot at 1.1. Given his history and the climate of the NFL teams are going to be reluctant to make him the face of the franchise.

Unless the Cowboys pick 1.1

Matthean · 09-17-2014, 02:09 PM

I think he's going to be a hard sell for #1 overall with Marcus Mariota being there.

Noop · 09-17-2014, 02:36 PM

Jameis is a dumbass something about him is off.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-17-2014, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Jameis is a dumbass something about him is off.

Pretty much my take. At this point I really don't know if he's a "bad guy" so much as maybe he's just not all there.

Butter · 09-17-2014, 03:51 PM

I think he is a Grade A narcissist the likes of which we just don't see too often.

Most college football players already think they are God's gift to the world... but I think he really takes it to a much higher level than normal.

On a related note, who is FSU's backup QB?

JonInMiddleGA · 09-17-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

On a related note, who is FSU's backup QB?

Here ya go, from the Miami Herald

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Sean Maguire, a third-year sophomore from New Jersey, will start at quarterback for FSU against Clemson.

Maguire entered spring camp in 2013 as a fourth-stringer. But Winston’s overwhelming success led fellow challengers Clint Trickett and Jacob Coker to transfer and allowed Maguire to ascend to No. 2 on the depth chart.

Maguire has 144 passing yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions in his brief career. He completed three of five passes for 28 yards in relief duty during FSU’s win against The Citadel on Sept. 6.

Butter · 09-17-2014, 03:59 PM

So, what you're saying is that they'll be running the ball a whole hell of a lot in the first half against Clemson.

Logan · 09-17-2014, 04:43 PM

He could end up being a great player, and I never saw him personally...but I remember that in the NJ high school football circles there being a lot of surprise when he got a commitable offer to FSU.

cartman · 09-18-2014, 07:48 AM

Figured this was coming. Concussions aren't something to mess around with.

David Ash of Texas Longhorns to end career after tough year - ESPN

Matthean · 09-18-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Figured this was coming. Concussions aren't something to mess around with.

David Ash of Texas Longhorns to end career after tough year - ESPN

There's just some things you don't screw with.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-18-2014, 07:26 PM

Mizzou/UConn announce a home/home series.

MUTIGERS.COM Mizzou-UCONN Agree to Home-and-Home Football Series - Official Athletic Site Official Athletic Site - Football

Butter · 09-18-2014, 08:00 PM

Jesus Christ K-State.

General Mike · 09-18-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Seems odd for the Big Ten to complain about how hard it is to schedule in conference games now and then have 4 OOC games to start the season. Here's the only Big Ten games with a pulse.

Miami(U) @ Nebraska
Utah @ Michigan
Iowa @ Pitt

Also of note, 'Bama welcomes Florida to the beginning of one nasty stretch run in their schedule.

Rutgers @ Navy has a pulse.

mckerney · 09-20-2014, 10:52 AM

Jameis Winston now suspended for the full Clemson game, waiting for him to come out and say, "I ain't come here to play behavior."

mckerney · 09-20-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Cartman, does this look familiar? I think it was one you showed me that was burnt orange and white a couple years ago.

Based on that, at least coaches in Iowa know you're allowed to put more than one receiver on the field at a time. Minnesota's 3rd and 5 gameplan calls for running the Maryland I.

Matthean · 09-20-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Jameis Winston now suspended for the full Clemson game, waiting for him to come out and say, "I ain't come here to play behavior."

His situation brings up in interesting plot to a team who wants in the playoff but would be out of it in part due to a player's suspension. Would the group picking teams forgive a loss due to somebody like Winston sitting?

Buccaneer · 09-20-2014, 11:18 AM

I think Ms. Ponder summed it up nicely: he thinks he's above the law/rules since he reached the pinnacle of college football success and feel he's untouchable. Problem is, even he doesn't play another down (assuming he's not in jail), he'll get his millions in the draft.

MrBug708 · 09-20-2014, 11:40 AM

Gotta love Mike London

Matthean · 09-20-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Mizzou/UConn announce a home/home series.

MUTIGERS.COM Mizzou-UCONN Agree to Home-and-Home Football Series - Official Athletic Site Official Athletic Site - Football

This belongs in the college basketball thread.

cuervo72 · 09-20-2014, 01:38 PM

This far in and we still have bames like MSU/E Mich, Bowling Green/Wisc and Troy/Georgia? C'mon, now.

Matthean · 09-20-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

This far in and we still have bames like MSU/E Mich, Bowling Green/Wisc and Troy/Georgia? C'mon, now.

As I said before, and we have teams in the Power 5 talking about how hard it is to schedule against teams in the conference. No it isn't. Stop scheduling four OOC games with at least three of them being cakewalks.

SackAttack · 09-20-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Mizzou/UConn announce a home/home series.

MUTIGERS.COM Mizzou-UCONN Agree to Home-and-Home Football Series - Official Athletic Site Official Athletic Site - Football

UConn has a football team?

TroyF · 09-20-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

This far in and we still have bames like MSU/E Mich, Bowling Green/Wisc and Troy/Georgia? C'mon, now.

Yeah, not a lot of big games. Hard to blame that group though. Michigan St went to Oregon. Wisconsin played LSU. Georgia has already played Clemson and South Carolina.

It's really a poor slate overall the last two weekends.

tarcone · 09-20-2014, 02:48 PM

Iowa put CJ Beathard in at QB early in the 2nd half. We were down 17-7. In the 3 series Beathard has been in and Iowa now leads 24-20.
This guy should have been playing all season. He has a better arm and is more athletic then our starter.

7 minutes left in the game

tarcone · 09-20-2014, 03:12 PM

Iowa wins. That was a nice bounce back. I hope Iowa stays with Beathard. He was a stud today.

mauchow · 09-20-2014, 03:20 PM

The Badgers about to surpass 600 yards rushing.... 250 of those yards from former Heisman Hopeful, Melvin Gordon. He put on some nice runs today along with Clement. Those two are a pretty nice RB Duo, I'd put 'em up with anybody in the country.

The QB problem is still there, however. Tanner McEvoy still can't hit a medium or deep ball to save his life. His short stuff isn't even average. He lays the receivers out to dry and can't hit wide open dump passes on the run. Thankfully with the Badgers schedule so terrible, they may by default be in the Big Ten Championship game against MSU; which would actually make for an interesting game from a national perspective if both teams do win out to that game.

cartman · 09-20-2014, 03:31 PM

CPJ pulls another win out of the hat. GT beats Va Tech with a FG as time expires.

cuervo72 · 09-20-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Yeah, not a lot of big games. Hard to blame that group though. Michigan St went to Oregon. Wisconsin played LSU. Georgia has already played Clemson and South Carolina.

It's really a poor slate overall the last two weekends.

I suppose that's fair.

miked · 09-20-2014, 05:26 PM

I could just watch Frank Beemer with that stupid, dumbfounded look on his face all week. Looks like I'm going to GT-Miami as the game will mean something.

Now just need RU to hold off a ground and pound Navy.

Chief Rum · 09-20-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Yeah, not a lot of big games. Hard to blame that group though. Michigan St went to Oregon. Wisconsin played LSU. Georgia has already played Clemson and South Carolina.

It's really a poor slate overall the last two weekends.

Georgia and SC are in the same conference division. Them playing each other is not a matter of choice. Agreed about Clemson, though.

And I should note, all of those opponents, at least, are FBS opponents.

tarcone · 09-20-2014, 06:53 PM

Who is Michigans next coach?

bob · 09-20-2014, 07:06 PM

East Carolina has 63? I know they beat VT, but so did GT. are they that good or does unc's d stink?

BillJasper · 09-20-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Who is Michigans next coach?

I think they'll make a play for Jim Harbaugh.

Lathum · 09-20-2014, 07:21 PM

Huskies looking forward to Stanford and are on the verge of being down two scores to Georgia State.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-20-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

East Carolina has 63? I know they beat VT, but so did GT. are they that good or does unc's d stink?

Make it an even 70.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-20-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Huskies looking forward to Stanford and are on the verge of being down two scores to Georgia State.

That's a fire-the-coach kinda loss right there (hypothetically speaking)

tarcone · 09-20-2014, 07:32 PM

Indiana is on Mizzous 3
30 seconds left

09-15-2014, 03:55 PM	#3
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Time for another ass-kicking from Missouri. Great... __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-15-2014, 07:04 PM	#5
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Seems odd for the Big Ten to complain about how hard it is to schedule in conference games now and then have 4 OOC games to start the season. Here's the only Big Ten games with a pulse. Miami(U) @ Nebraska Utah @ Michigan Iowa @ Pitt Also of note, 'Bama welcomes Florida to the beginning of one nasty stretch run in their schedule. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 09-15-2014 at 07:05 PM.

09-15-2014, 07:24 PM	#6
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa doesnt have a pulse. Boring, conservative, boring football. Pitt will roll Iowa. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-15-2014, 08:15 PM	#7
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Cartman, does this look familiar? I think it was one you showed me that was burnt orange and white a couple years ago. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-15-2014, 09:14 PM	#8
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Yep, that is all too familiar. Davis is a very underrated QB coach, and a very overrated play caller. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-15-2014, 03:52 PM	#2
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	In the ACC, Georgia Tech also plays at Virginia Tech. Between GT, Clemson, VPI and FSU, they have taken up 14 of the 18 slots in the ACC championship games. So history makes this an important weekend even if the eye tests so far this season do not.

09-15-2014, 09:38 PM	#9
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Its interesting you say he is an underrated QB coach. The QBs he has coached at Iowa have all regressed under him. I dont think he knows how to coach QBs. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-15-2014, 09:58 PM	#10
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	He did a great job with them at Texas. Here is the list from his time there: Major Applewhite Chris Simms Vince Young Colt McCoy They all had great improvement between when they came to campus and left, and he was the QB coach as well as the OC. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 09-15-2014 at 10:02 PM.

09-16-2014, 07:07 PM	#11
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Great front-page story from ESPN on Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah - Nebraska RB Ameer Abdullah an uncommon talent - ESPN Figured we could use a positive story about a potential NFL RB right about now.

09-17-2014, 01:15 PM	#12
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	FSU QB Jameis Winston suspended for the first half against Clemson \| Dr. Saturday - Yahoo Sports what an idiot. Last edited by Lathum : 09-17-2014 at 01:15 PM.

09-17-2014, 01:24 PM	#13
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Gonna cost him some money come draft time. Michigan and Texas will do a home and home in 2024 and 2027. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 09-17-2014 at 01:24 PM.

09-17-2014, 02:09 PM	#15
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I think he's going to be a hard sell for #1 overall with Marcus Mariota being there. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

09-17-2014, 02:36 PM	#16
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Jameis is a dumbass something about him is off. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

09-17-2014, 03:51 PM	#18
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I think he is a Grade A narcissist the likes of which we just don't see too often. Most college football players already think they are God's gift to the world... but I think he really takes it to a much higher level than normal. On a related note, who is FSU's backup QB? __________________ My listening habits

09-17-2014, 03:59 PM	#20
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	So, what you're saying is that they'll be running the ball a whole hell of a lot in the first half against Clemson. __________________ My listening habits

09-17-2014, 04:43 PM	#21
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	He could end up being a great player, and I never saw him personally...but I remember that in the NJ high school football circles there being a lot of surprise when he got a commitable offer to FSU.

09-18-2014, 07:48 AM	#22
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Figured this was coming. Concussions aren't something to mess around with. David Ash of Texas Longhorns to end career after tough year - ESPN __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-18-2014, 07:26 PM	#24
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Mizzou/UConn announce a home/home series. MUTIGERS.COM Mizzou-UCONN Agree to Home-and-Home Football Series - Official Athletic Site Official Athletic Site - Football

09-18-2014, 08:00 PM	#25
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Jesus Christ K-State. __________________ My listening habits

09-20-2014, 10:52 AM	#27
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Jameis Winston now suspended for the full Clemson game, waiting for him to come out and say, "I ain't come here to play behavior."

09-20-2014, 11:18 AM	#30
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I think Ms. Ponder summed it up nicely: he thinks he's above the law/rules since he reached the pinnacle of college football success and feel he's untouchable. Problem is, even he doesn't play another down (assuming he's not in jail), he'll get his millions in the draft.

09-20-2014, 11:40 AM	#31
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Gotta love Mike London

09-20-2014, 01:38 PM	#33
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	This far in and we still have bames like MSU/E Mich, Bowling Green/Wisc and Troy/Georgia? C'mon, now. __________________ null

09-20-2014, 02:48 PM	#37
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa put CJ Beathard in at QB early in the 2nd half. We were down 17-7. In the 3 series Beathard has been in and Iowa now leads 24-20. This guy should have been playing all season. He has a better arm and is more athletic then our starter. 7 minutes left in the game __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-20-2014, 03:12 PM	#38
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa wins. That was a nice bounce back. I hope Iowa stays with Beathard. He was a stud today. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-20-2014, 03:20 PM	#39
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	The Badgers about to surpass 600 yards rushing.... 250 of those yards from former Heisman Hopeful, Melvin Gordon. He put on some nice runs today along with Clement. Those two are a pretty nice RB Duo, I'd put 'em up with anybody in the country. The QB problem is still there, however. Tanner McEvoy still can't hit a medium or deep ball to save his life. His short stuff isn't even average. He lays the receivers out to dry and can't hit wide open dump passes on the run. Thankfully with the Badgers schedule so terrible, they may by default be in the Big Ten Championship game against MSU; which would actually make for an interesting game from a national perspective if both teams do win out to that game. Last edited by mauchow : 09-20-2014 at 03:23 PM.

09-20-2014, 03:31 PM	#40
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	CPJ pulls another win out of the hat. GT beats Va Tech with a FG as time expires. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-20-2014, 05:26 PM	#42
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I could just watch Frank Beemer with that stupid, dumbfounded look on his face all week. Looks like I'm going to GT-Miami as the game will mean something. Now just need RU to hold off a ground and pound Navy. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

09-20-2014, 06:53 PM	#44
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Who is Michigans next coach? __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-20-2014, 07:06 PM	#45
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	East Carolina has 63? I know they beat VT, but so did GT. are they that good or does unc's d stink?

09-20-2014, 07:21 PM	#47
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Huskies looking forward to Stanford and are on the verge of being down two scores to Georgia State.

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tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Indiana is on Mizzous 3 30 seconds left __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

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