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Old 06-17-2023, 01:07 PM   #551
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McConnell, yes. Rubio is a complete empty suit, so who knows. Cruz only sees what might give him more power and he'll gladly smell the farts of anyone that appears to help him.
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Old 06-17-2023, 01:32 PM   #552
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This board is smaller than in the past, but it has always had a strong conservative and libertarian contingent. Many of those that stayed active have given up on both the GOP and the Libertarian party because of the candidates and policies they have embraced.

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You can't tell me guys like Rubio, McConnell. Cruz, etc...don't hate Trump and know how toxic he is for the party. Yet they had their chance to get rid of him and every one of them were to afraid of his base to do it.

Case in point, 10-15 years ago on this very board we were talking about how people like Cruz & Rubio and the rest of the Tea Party bandwagon were pretty fringe and radical for the GOP and now they're the moderate middle of the GOP.
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Old 06-17-2023, 02:53 PM   #553
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Hey remember so so long ago that maga Republican ran as a conservative dem, won and then flipped? Glad we’re past those eras.


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Old 06-18-2023, 09:07 AM   #554
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I find it amusing that "woke" is a negative term because it means you're awake, does that mean all the Trumpies want to stay asleep?

I went for my morning walk yesterday, and there was a church with a sign outside that said "Your beliefs do not make you a better person, your actions do". That was amazing. That's one of my biggest pet peeves about religious people, a lot of them think they're better than you because they go to church. That's exactly the opposite of what it should be.

To me, "woke" would be the left version of the person who thinks they're better than you. If you have an opinion that's slightly different than them, you're automatically a nazi bigot and it's time to cancel. They think they're the good guys who are out to save the world, meanwhile are the biggest douchebags about it.

So essentially, almost exactly as the right-wing religious person, but on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Old 06-18-2023, 09:32 AM   #555
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Old 06-19-2023, 09:22 AM   #556
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I went for my morning walk yesterday, and there was a church with a sign outside that said "Your beliefs do not make you a better person, your actions do". That was amazing. That's one of my biggest pet peeves about religious people, a lot of them think they're better than you because they go to church. That's exactly the opposite of what it should be.

To me, "woke" would be the left version of the person who thinks they're better than you. If you have an opinion that's slightly different than them, you're automatically a nazi bigot and it's time to cancel. They think they're the good guys who are out to save the world, meanwhile are the biggest douchebags about it.

So essentially, almost exactly as the right-wing religious person, but on the opposite side of the political spectrum.


My father-in-law had a saying for these types of people that resonated with me: "Sitting in a church makes you no more a Christian than sitting in a garage makes me a car".
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Old 06-19-2023, 10:04 AM   #557
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I don't think it's the case that the establishment was too afraid of the base. It's more that every time they tried, the base said no. That's pretty much what the whole 2016 primary was. If it was just a corrupt establishment, it would be far better situation and an easier problem to solve.
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Old 06-22-2023, 07:50 AM   #558
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Looking forward to the Zuck vs Musk cage fight.

They should pair that up with a Boebert vs MTG fight also.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:03 PM   #559
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I'm rooting for you Zuck, hope this becomes a viable alternative.

Set the rules of the road early, clearly and transparently though. Let everyone know what the rules are, provide examples, and be consistent. There's a wealth of use cases from Twitter already.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/22/musk...ter-clone.html
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The app is codenamed Project 92 or P92, Platformer reported in March, and Meta is considering calling it Threads, according to a June report from the Verge. It will reportedly be deeply integrated into Instagram, populating information from the existing social media platform. A top Meta executive reportedly said that high-profile users, including celebrities an content creators, were looking for a “sanely run” platform.
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The company began building the platform in January, a few months after Musk took over Twitter, and Meta plans for the app to be available this summer, according to reports in Bloomberg and elsewhere.

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Old 06-22-2023, 12:24 PM   #560
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Bluechecks now have a 25,000 character limit.

More reason to block them all.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:31 PM   #561
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Looking forward to the Zuck vs Musk cage fight.

They should pair that up with a Boebert vs MTG fight also.


I got an idea. a mixed tag match. Zuck-MTG vs Musk-Boebert in a steel cage.

During the fight, we weld the cage shut, encase it in concrete and then send it into the sun.
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Old 06-22-2023, 03:34 PM   #562
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Old 06-22-2023, 11:17 PM   #563
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so apparently Musk has challenged Zuckerberg to a cage match and Zuckerberg has said 'send me location'

How about the bottom of the sea...
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Old 06-23-2023, 03:51 AM   #564
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During the fight, we weld the cage shut, encase it in concrete and then send it into the sun.

The tyranny of the rocket equation cannot be denied. This would be prohibitively expensive.
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Old 06-23-2023, 08:42 AM   #565
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The tyranny of the rocket equation cannot be denied. This would be prohibitively expensive.

Not if you nationalize their personal wealth.
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Old 06-23-2023, 12:08 PM   #566
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Musk has a potential trainer!

Andrew Tate says he wants to train Elon Musk to fight the jiu-jitsu loving Mark Zuckerberg, after the two billionaires told the world they'd go mano a mano in a cage match

You Go Andrew Tate!!!! (Go to jail that is, assuming he's found guilty in his upcoming trial)
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Old 06-23-2023, 12:12 PM   #567
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Musk has a potential trainer!

Andrew Tate says he wants to train Elon Musk to fight the jiu-jitsu loving Mark Zuckerberg, after the two billionaires told the world they'd go mano a mano in a cage match

You Go Andrew Tate!!!! (Go to jail that is, assuming he's found guilty in his upcoming trial)

Isn't this the plot to one of the kickboxer movies? (or bloodsport.

And before you dismiss that JUST as a joke, I think it was, I vaguely remember one of the plots being "inmate trains someone to be champion"
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Old 06-23-2023, 12:12 PM   #568
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The tyranny of the rocket equation cannot be denied. This would be prohibitively expensive.

Would it be cheaper to drop it on a shelf near the titanic? Give the next batch of submarine visitors another landmark to view...
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Old 06-25-2023, 03:18 AM   #569
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I guess Musk didn't watch UFC 1. Zuckerberg is a handy BJJ practioner. Big, fat guy over 50 poses no threat to the small skilled younger guy.
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Old 06-25-2023, 03:28 AM   #570
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You are right. Most educated people aren't Trump supporters.

Very true. Can't stand Trump as a person. But in terms of policies I think he brings positives to the table Biden doesn't. But his toxic personality outweighs that for me.

Also let's not confuse education with intelligence. Just because you know more doesn't mean you are smarter. If you have got your degree you have been subjected to the brainwashing of the academic cult. Then perhaps you move to the tech cult. Before you know it your opinion is the companies opinion. What option do you have if you want to fit in? You would likely learn a lot from working a year in construction perhaps?

The way forward is surely to meet in the middle. The left ideology is a little naive and has its problems too. The world is different for a $350k Silicon valley worker compared to a $60k construction worker. Nobody is right or wrong, you are operating in different worlds. The construction guy may be smarter than you are. Just without the rich parents and opportunities. Without compromise your country will remain at war with each other. It will likely get worse too.

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Old 06-25-2023, 09:38 AM   #571
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:06 AM   #572
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Very true. Can't stand Trump as a person. But in terms of policies I think he brings positives to the table Biden doesn't. But his toxic personality outweighs that for me.

Also let's not confuse education with intelligence. Just because you know more doesn't mean you are smarter. If you have got your degree you have been subjected to the brainwashing of the academic cult. Then perhaps you move to the tech cult. Before you know it your opinion is the companies opinion. What option do you have if you want to fit in? You would likely learn a lot from working a year in construction perhaps?

The way forward is surely to meet in the middle. The left ideology is a little naive and has its problems too. The world is different for a $350k Silicon valley worker compared to a $60k construction worker. Nobody is right or wrong, you are operating in different worlds. The construction guy may be smarter than you are. Just without the rich parents and opportunities. Without compromise your country will remain at war with each other. It will likely get worse too.

I will chalk it up to you living in another country and not having regular interactions with these people, because virtually everything you said is either flat out wrong or some right wing twisted version. There is a reason why Trump and his supporters are literally the laughing stock of the world and it's not because of a lack of comprise or walking a mile in their shoes.
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:25 AM   #573
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I...really don't remember any academic cult when I was at engineering school. (A school my [100% anti-Republican] construction worker father made sure I went to because he didn't want me doing what he had to).
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:34 AM   #574
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I...really don't remember any academic cult when I was at engineering school. (A school my [100% anti-Republican] construction worker father made sure I went to because he didn't want me doing what he had to).

People on the right equate learning to critically think to indoctrination.
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Old 06-25-2023, 11:44 AM   #575
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The only academic cult I lead is trying to get students to properly construct paragraphs and I'm largely unsuccessful.
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Old 06-25-2023, 04:32 PM   #576
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I got my PhD in Engineering, we had a cult of tissue mechanics and biotransport...does that count? I mean honestly, we worked in labs and took fundamental science and math courses. I guess I was indoctrinated in to critical thinking and problem solving cults? Even as an undergrad, I was indoctrinated in learning, writing, and being curious by my teachers. The horror!
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Old 06-25-2023, 05:04 PM   #577
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Ironically, Hammer's diatribe about education was a carbon copy of that spewed relentlessly by right-wing outlets for ages. A cult indeed.
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Old 06-25-2023, 06:10 PM   #578
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The construction guy may be smarter than you are.

Not if he supports Donald Trump.
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Old 06-25-2023, 08:10 PM   #579
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People on the right equate learning to critically think to indoctrination.
How dare you try to indoctrinate my child into thinking outside of the box I am indoctrinating them into thinking!
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Old 06-25-2023, 08:31 PM   #580
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There is a reason why Trump and his supporters are literally the laughing stock of the world and it's not because of a lack of comprise or walking a mile in their shoes.

There's a lot of batshit people around the world that agree with any number of things, starting with socialism.

That doesn't change the reality that there are only three primary causes for U.S. version of liberalism: ignorance, mental/emotional illness, plain old evil.
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Old 06-25-2023, 09:02 PM   #581
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Old 06-25-2023, 09:25 PM   #582
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There's a lot of batshit people around the world that agree with any number of things, starting with socialism.

That doesn't change the reality that there are only three primary causes for U.S. version of liberalism: ignorance, mental/emotional illness, plain old evil.

maybe but it is the lesser of 2 evils
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Old 06-26-2023, 07:04 AM   #583
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Old 06-26-2023, 08:09 AM   #584
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It's fun to theorize what will happen in the fight. I guess it's possible that Musk gets a lucky punch in but if it goes to the mat, he's a goner.

Are there Vegas odds on how long the fight will last?
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Old 06-26-2023, 08:14 AM   #585
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Old 06-26-2023, 11:22 AM   #586
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It's fun to theorize what will happen in the fight. I guess it's possible that Musk gets a lucky punch in but if it goes to the mat, he's a goner.

Are there Vegas odds on how long the fight will last?

I don't see a lucky punch happening, Zuckerberg is actually competent at BJJ and in much better shape, I see him going for a quick takedown and rag dolling Musk until he catches him in a sub.

I don't think BJJ is what some people think it is in a street fight, in fact I would say it is foolish to use it on the street in probably 90% of confrontations. But in a controlled environment, I can't state enough, how huge the advantage someone who has trained for even just two years has over the average Joe, who tries to learn it in a 4-6 week fight camp.
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However in a street fight, if the bjj guys intent is to simply control the opponents limbs until the fight is broken up there is no better technique that also minimize the chances of an accident occurring. My son has a punch thrown at him and he did what he was taught to do which was to control their sleeves (gi-like) and take it to the ground until someone breaks it up. It worked. Another great thing that occurred is the school let it all go because we explained that Aiden simply controlled the aggressor who threw the punch and it went away. Pretty cool to understand there the training worked.


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Old 06-30-2023, 08:40 AM   #588
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Looking forward to the Zuck vs Musk cage fight.

I'm guessing this won't be "in" the Colessum but around it. Interesting gimmick but does Italy really need more tourists in Rome? Especially tourists (presumably more apt to be boisterous) that want to watch a 3rd rate fight.

Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg Contacted by Italy to Fight at Colosseum
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We're told Zuckerberg's people passed on the message to UFC Prez Dana White, whose people contacted the Minister.

Didn't know about Musk's credentials. Wonder how much training he really took and how long ago. If he has been training, yeah I can see a lucky punch or kick.


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Old 06-30-2023, 05:41 PM   #589
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I don't see a lucky punch happening, Zuckerberg is actually competent at BJJ and in much better shape, I see him going for a quick takedown and rag dolling Musk until he catches him in a sub.

I don't think BJJ is what some people think it is in a street fight, in fact I would say it is foolish to use it on the street in probably 90% of confrontations. But in a controlled environment, I can't state enough, how huge the advantage someone who has trained for even just two years has over the average Joe, who tries to learn it in a 4-6 week fight camp.


For someone who has done some BJJ, Zuck will crush him. I've rolled with people half my size but experienced and they just dominate. It's really such a helpless feeling. Musk's only hope is to use his size in some capacity. But I can't imagine they'd allow the fight to have that kind of a weight discrepancy.


Anyway, not sure on Musk's background but he is a pathological liar. I really don't think he's trained as much as Zuck and there is no way he is going to enter a cage with someone who has actually trained in BJJ and has 12 years on him.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:33 PM   #590
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I am the same height as Musk but 27 pounds lighter. I stay in decent shape for a 48 yar old heavy beer drinker. His lack of cardio alone will kill him.
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Old 07-01-2023, 11:57 AM   #591
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I deleted my Twitter account the day it changed hands to the buffoon. I have felt zero desire to use it since then, of course. Occasionally, I would be led there from reddit or somewhere when someone shared a link, but that's it. Yesterday, that stopped working. Now you have to be logged in to view twitter at all.

I find it hilarious watching the site spiral downhill like this.
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Old 07-01-2023, 12:50 PM   #592
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For someone who has done some BJJ, Zuck will crush him. I've rolled with people half my size but experienced and they just dominate. It's really such a helpless feeling. Musk's only hope is to use his size in some capacity.
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I 100% agree with this statement, in fact I hate rolling with small, flexible guys because they can throw up subs from just about any position. I go around 210, so I always use top pressure against those types, sometimes with little success LOL, but I would much rather roll with someone my size or bigger any time.
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Old 07-01-2023, 12:58 PM   #593
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Old 07-01-2023, 01:14 PM   #594
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The comments section I. This tweet I’m reading has a message that says “rate limit exceeded please wait a few minutes” wtf?
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Old 07-01-2023, 01:29 PM   #595
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So, not displaying Tweets to non-registered users (mostly those coming across tweets on other websites/in searches) and limiting the amount of posts a user is allowed to "read" (click on? Scroll past? Repliea included?) a day with 'verified' accounts getting a much higher limit. Reducing traffic on social media with advertisement being the main revenue stream is certainly a strategy (it's pretty transparent he wants to transform it into a subscription only tool that finances itself)

Right now many literally can't use the site anyway, so there's that as well.
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Old 07-01-2023, 01:37 PM   #597
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What the actual fuck? He’s literally limiting the amount of time people can spend on a site designed to get people to spend time on it. Insanity.
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Old 07-01-2023, 02:16 PM   #598
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In other words, doing the exact thing he swore not to do, regulating it, LOL
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Old 07-01-2023, 02:16 PM   #599
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Old 07-01-2023, 02:38 PM   #600
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He was doing everything possible to drive people away. But old habits die hard and a lot of us were still hanging out there despite everything.

So he finally kicked us off.
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