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Old 06-25-2009, 02:27 PM   #151
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I just don't get people who watch a few minutes of a movie, and then just stop because they think that they'll hate the rest. I once did the same thing with "American Psycho", but gave it an actual shot a couple years later, and think it's a great film.

You missed out on a good one.

Only movie I ever did that with was Natural Born Killers, I walked out after less then 10 minutes, I just find no entertainment out of that type of crap.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:28 PM   #152
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Classic shit. Classic.

And, for my money, that's the type of stuff that sums up Tarantino in a nutshell. He thinks he's a good director or funny and makes the audience sit through long, slow, pace-breaking crap for something where the payoff isn't nearly good enough.

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Old 06-25-2009, 02:30 PM   #153
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And, for my money, that's the type of stuff that sums up Tarantino in a nutshell. He thinks he's a good director or funny and makes the audience sit through long, slow, pace-breaking crap for something where the payoff isn't nearly good enough.

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I don't think you can say that about either Kill Bill movie though.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:33 PM   #154
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Only movie I ever did that with was Natural Born Killers, I walked out after less then 10 minutes, I just find no entertainment out of that type of crap.

I can think of twice. 4 of us walked out of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas when I was in high school but that was because 2 of the guys had a headache from watching it on a big screen and I thought it sucked. A couple of years ago, my wife and I had a free preview weekend and were watching Harold and Kumar (the first one)- I wanted to try and watch it and see if it really was funny but neither one of us could get past the first 20 minutes and we just turned it off and went to sleep.

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Old 06-25-2009, 02:36 PM   #155
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I don't think you can say that about either Kill Bill movie though.

The action sequences were ok- but they just plodded along, like mediocre anime. Still, more than serviceable. However, the characters were completely unlikeable and I couldn't stand the plot. I don't know if I would say they fit in the "Movies I should like but don't" category but I at least gave them both a shot.

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Old 06-25-2009, 02:38 PM   #156
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Maybe I misremembered (thanks Roger Clemens), but I thought I read that you didn't like to sit through movies somewhere.

I don't know if I've said I don't like movies on FOFC or not, but I have said it many times in my life. In general, I don't like movies. It is far from my favorite form of entertainment. But there are some movies that are good enough to sit through, and some of them that are fantastic AND NAPOLEON DYNAMITE IS WELL BEYOND BOTH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:40 PM   #157
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And, for my money, that's the type of stuff that sums up Tarantino in a nutshell. He thinks he's a good director or funny and makes the audience sit through long, slow, pace-breaking crap for something where the payoff isn't nearly good enough.

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I guess it is a matter of perspective. I could not get through the Kill Bill movies, just saw no real point to them. I also found Jackie Brown to be rather boring. On the other hand, I love Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. /shrug
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:41 PM   #158
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Napoleon Dynamite almost ended a friendship. I thought that movie was so horrible that I nearly dropped the recommending friend completely.

The 40-Year Old Virgin was one of the very few movies that I couldn't finish. After 30-40 minutes I realized that I hadn't even smiled yet so I turned it off.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:42 PM   #159
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The action sequences were ok- but they just plodded along, like mediocre anime. Still, more than serviceable. However, the characters were completely unlikeable and I couldn't stand the plot. I don't know if I would say they fit in the "Movies I should like but don't" category but I at least gave them both a shot.

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Man, I couldn't disagree more. At the very least, Kiddo was very, very likable, and I even sort of liked Bill. And I definitely didn't think it even remotely plodded.

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Old 06-25-2009, 02:46 PM   #160
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I tried to watch Tropic Thunder the other day. We did not make it through the sick, disgusting fake previews at the beginning. The Ben Stiller "Scorcher" one was funny, the others were just going for shock rather than comedy. We decided not to waste our time on the rest of the movie.

I would watch the actual movie before trashing it. It's like that guy who watched 20 minutes of Dexter and decided it wasn't any good. The first episode of a tv series is the set up so of course it won't be as riveting as the rest of the season. I wasn't sure what to expect with Tropic Thunder either, but it turned out I liked it. The actual movie is much better than those trailers.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:17 PM   #161
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:00 PM   #162
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I would watch the actual movie before trashing it. It's like that guy who watched 20 minutes of Dexter and decided it wasn't any good. The first episode of a tv series is the set up so of course it won't be as riveting as the rest of the season. I wasn't sure what to expect with Tropic Thunder either, but it turned out I liked it. The actual movie is much better than those trailers.

I watched all of Tropic Thunder and thought it was awful. Black was way over the top and Stiller was the same old schtick. Downey Jr. was good, but once you got past it with him it was old.

The only think even remotely worthwhile was Tom Cruise.

I thought it was way to drawn out and just not funny. I just didn't get it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:34 AM   #163
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2001 is the worst film ever made. Then again, I've like exactly one half of a film Stanley Kubrick directed (the first half of Full Metal Jacket). The rest of his movies are pseudo "art" films that masks the fact that he couldn't tell a decent story.

Been a while since I've seen Full Metal Jacket, so I don't really recall how I felt about the second half of it.

I just sat through 2001, and while "worst film ever made" is truth, as far as that goes, I think "trippy hippie art house horseshit" is probably a more accurate description.

Use of the word 'film' when discussing 2001 is degrading to the entire art form.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:00 AM   #164
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On paper, it should have moved me, but it didn't. I can't explain it. Maybe it was the over hyping of what some consider Oscar worthy acting by Mo'Nique. She was solid, but I don't think it was Oscar worthy... but what do I know.

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Old 12-02-2009, 07:19 AM   #165
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I guess it is a matter of perspective. I could not get through the Kill Bill movies, just saw no real point to them. I also found Jackie Brown to be rather boring. On the other hand, I love Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs. /shrug

Me too. Jackie Brown had its moments, though.

KB1 was pointless, except for the violence. KB2 did actually have a point to it. I think it could have been a decent movie at 2.5 hours or so, but Tarantino's self indulgence knows no bounds.

I also hate all Kubrick movies except the first half of FMJ. Dear God, in Eyes Wide Shut he made nudity and sex seem boring.

And I am also trying to figure out why people feel so strongly that they should like Tropic Thunder.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:12 AM   #166
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I find this to be one of the most depressing threads on the entire board.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:32 AM   #167
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:35 AM   #168
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Napoleon Dynamite was craptastic. As was Pulp Fiction.


That ought to settle a few things.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:48 AM   #169
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:51 AM   #170
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I've never even managed to sit through all of Napoleon Dynamite>

Pulp Fiction was alright, but I don't really enjoy Tarantino that much. Don't think I sat through all of Kill Bill v1 either...and I didn't even watch v2 at all.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:13 AM   #171
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Napolean Dynamite is exactly like the Terrible but funny comics thread. I don't even understand what other people could possibly find good about them/it.

I can understand the appeal of the stupid Apatow films. I liken those to fart jokes. May not be my brand of humor, but at least there's humor.

A movie I haven't seen mentioned that I put in the same category of Napolean Dynamite is Sideways. I didn't understand get that one at all.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:15 AM   #172
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I guess this is all part and parcel of the whole "miraculous rainbow of humanity" thing we have going on.

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I can see the differing opinions on Taratino. Some people just don't like postmodernism in film. Nothing wrong with that, it just won't appeal to them at all.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:03 AM   #175
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:08 AM   #176
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I can see the differing opinions on Taratino. Some people just don't like postmodernism in film. Nothing wrong with that, it just won't appeal to them at all.

Or can totally appreciate postmodernism in film but think Tarantino is a hack. Either way.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:21 AM   #177
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2001 and No Country For Old Men are the two biggest offenders offhand. Superbad wasn't as good as I had hoped. It could have cut out 1/3 of the movie and not lost anything. When I watched Gladiator I just kept thinking I had seen the movie already when it was called Braveheart.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:22 AM   #178
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Well... considering Tarantino is probably the best example of postmodernism in film today... it's kinda like saying you like impressionism, but think Monet is a hack .
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... which I think is a perfectly reasonable position for someone to have.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:31 AM   #180
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Though on the other hand, I think its weird to call someone a hack who doesn't really release that many movies and takes his time on each project (a hack being someone who just churns out mediocre work simply for money).
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:20 PM   #181
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So I just saw Casino for the first time a couple of nights ago (yeah, I know- a little late to the party) and I can see why it's so heavily regarded. I could even see someone describing it as a Shakespearean tragedy set in modern day times. Not only that, but I loved the narration from the two different perspectives, the setting, the acting, most of the characters (tho almost all are somewhat unlikeable)- there was a lot to like.

But, man, it was a grind to get through it. I know I wanted to see how the story unfolded and what the end was, but I kept looking at the clock to see how much time it had left as it was very slow moving.

(Watched Frost/Nixon last night- that was excellent, as well. HBO/CineMAX free previews are nice to catch up on stuff I've missed)

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Old 12-03-2009, 12:58 PM   #182
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So I just saw Casino for the first time a couple of nights ago (yeah, I know- a little late to the party) and I can see why it's so heavily regarded. I could even see someone describing it as a Shakespearean tragedy set in modern day times. Not only that, but I loved the narration from the two different perspectives, the setting, the acting, most of the characters (tho almost all are somewhat unlikeable)- there was a lot to like.

But, man, it was a grind to get through it. I know I wanted to see how the story unfolded and what the end was, but I kept looking at the clock to see how much time it had left as it was very slow moving.

(Watched Frost/Nixon last night- that was excellent, as well. HBO/CineMAX free previews are nice to catch up on stuff I've missed)

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I've tried to watch through Casino many times. I've made it about an hour of the way through as the longest attempt. I think part of it is that I have always tried to watch this movie in bed and just have fallen asleep watching it. perhaps I need to give it a shot some time during the day instead.
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I just sat through 2001, and while "worst film ever made" is truth, as far as that goes, I think "trippy hippie art house horseshit" is probably a more accurate description.

Use of the word 'film' when discussing 2001 is degrading to the entire art form.

I have never seen 2001, and it appears that I have not missed anything except for a nap.

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I find A Clockwork Orange to be Kubrick's best film.

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Tropic Thunder was ok, nothing special though. As someone else said, Black was way over the top.

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Old 12-03-2009, 08:53 PM   #184
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I seem to like some of the movies people hate. Blazing Saddles is okay. I actually like Young Frankenstein more.

The movies I hate:

Dark Knight - Yeah, I know, big hit. But I can't stand the lead girl, and from there it just sours on me. I'm not a big fan of Bale as Batman. Sure, Ledger's Joker is pretty good, but I always felt like my friends thought I should like it as some sort of respect for him. I'd take Four Feathers any day if I wanted to watch Ledger.

Natural Born Killers - maybe I'm missing the message, but Harrelson and Lewis both get on my nerves quite a bit.

Die Another DayI am a HUGE James Bond fan. Can't stand the this movie...it's way too over the top, even for Bond.

AtonementWife wanted to watch it, and with Knightly I'm not going to complain, but the ending was just bad. It's not atonement if the people you betrayed die before you come forward.

Any Adam Sandler movieSame character, different setting. He's not funny, unless I'm listening to Lunch Lady Land.
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I would sooner gargle myself to death on barbed wire and razor blades than watch any movie with Juliette Lewis in it.

I think she's a fine actress. I just can't stand her in any role she plays. I've been cheering for her to die in every movie she's been in since Cape Fear.
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Old 05-10-2010, 04:03 AM   #187
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Natural Born Killers sucks ass. I bought it for $5 just assuming I'd like it with Tarantino being the writer. Turns out I hate Oliver Stone pretty much every time.
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Except for Uncle Buck. Macaulay Culkin gets a pass for that one too.
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Natural Born Killers sucks ass. I bought it for $5 just assuming I'd like it with Tarantino being the writer. Turns out I hate Oliver Stone pretty much every time.

I'm with you on this. Maybe if I was stoned I'd like it, but, I don't know, I really just don't know. It's just not a good movie. The story had potential, but, the way it was shot was way too distracting.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:04 AM   #192
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So, just watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind last night. Like the plot and even think that the non-linear plot actually works and isn't just a toy like some other "highly critically acclaimed" movies that I don't find nearly as good. Unfortunately, there's a huge problem I have and it's that Kaufman decided to make all the characters horribly unlikeable .

I know not everyone buys this argument but making your characters more flawed doesn't make them "more real", it just makes them more *annoying*. Jim Carrey's character mostly works and even Kate Winslet's, tho we get a lot of devolution into the mindless soabox-y chatter. By what I mean, I get the sense that some writers just feel like a teenager in a creative writing class who finally got their big forum so they try to get their point across about how some indy band with a guy who's voice sounds like a dying cat is just as good as, say, U2 but never got their big break because of the evil record companies. All the periphery characters are horribly flawed and that, in and of itself is not a problem, but when you emphasize those characteristics which make them difficult to watch, I dunno- some people seem to think that makes them more easy to relate to and love that but I hate it. This makes all of their plots seem contrived including the important one from out in left field that is necessary to move the plot along (Kristin' Dunst's- I don't really want to elaborate as I'm trying to keep this spoiler free).

I liked the main plot and that's usually my most important aspect of a movie (as opposed to characters, acting, dialog, etc) but the characters just detracted so much that I found it distracting.

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Old 09-01-2010, 03:34 PM   #194
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:03 PM   #195
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Some of da older/modern classics that make my list:

Citizen Kane - Easy to understand it's significance, but bores me to tears. Touch of Evil is the far superior Welles film for my money.
Nashville, The Player, and Short Cuts - I guess it's a roll of the dice, when it comes to me & Altman. Conversely, McCabe & Mrs. Miller is one of my favorite ever movies, and I enjoy MASH and The Long Goodbye.
8 1/2, La Dolve Vita, Juliet of the Spirits - I think it's fair to say that I don't get Fellini.
The Graduate - Maybe this lost most of its impact over time, as the themes have been rehashed through the ages, but whatever the reason, The Graduate does nearly nothing for me.
Shawshank Redemption - While I certainly don't consider it a bad movie, I could take or leave it, and would probably always choose a Steven Seagal flick, given the choice. That goes double for The Green Mile.
Lord of the Rings Trilogy - Like the above, it's a real stretch to say I didn't like these movies, but I certainly didn't like them anywhere near as 99& of the world seemingly did. Combined, these three movies are about half as entertaining as Conan the Barbarian.
Platoon - There are at least a dozen superior war films from which it cribs, and upon re-watching Platoon suffers from being kind of treakly and melodramatic.
Terminator 2 - The first Terminator is awesome. This movie is an abortion.
Heat - I dunno why the respect for this film seems to grow year after year. Overly long and overacted, it puts me to sleep. Mann's Manhunter, on the other hand, is some genius shit.
The Lives of Others - Didn't reach anywhere near the heights of the hype it generated.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:29 PM   #196
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Syriana.

Blazing Saddles.

The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Cheech and Chong movies.

Moulin Rouge.

Rushmore.

Harold and Kumar

Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Boogie Nights.

Grease
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:34 PM   #197
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Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. I found this to be an empty, if flashy, experience... I should have liked it because, well, I'm a massive video game geek. I didn't like it because it it "honoured" the video games of my youth in about the same way kids "honoured" bands like the the Sex Pistols and Rolling Stones when I was growing up, by wearing their t-shirts yet not being able to name 3 songs. Maybe I'm just old and bitter.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:06 PM   #198
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Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. I found this to be an empty, if flashy, experience... I should have liked it because, well, I'm a massive video game geek. I didn't like it because it it "honoured" the video games of my youth in about the same way kids "honoured" bands like the the Sex Pistols and Rolling Stones when I was growing up, by wearing their t-shirts yet not being able to name 3 songs. Maybe I'm just old and bitter.

It's probably just seeing the movie without having read the books. It comes across as much shallower of course in that form.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #199
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Groundhog Day.

Well played.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:23 PM   #200
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El Dorado - I wanted to *love* it, but didn't. Maybe I should have watched Rio Bravo first.
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