One of those rare times I envy eunuchs

mrsimperless · 03-14-2009, 11:41 PM

So....

I know this dude, not a friend but not not a friend. And he's been dating this girl for like a month... And I think I'm in love with her. And I know she likes me. So we hang out in our group of friends and I talk to her and when I talk to her we have this connection.... and I try my best to make as much eye contact with him as I do her, but its hard and I have this feeling that he knows my feelings and..

FUCK!

Why does life do this to me? He is a good guy and i like him, but every time they go home together and she looks back at me while holding his hand I feel like my heart is being ground up in a heart grinder. I want him to be happy, her to be happy. This is one of those rare times that I envy eunuchs.

Izulde · 03-15-2009, 12:05 AM

Not a friend but not not a friend = Acquaintance.

i.e. she's fair game.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 12:09 AM

If she decides to leave him for you I don't see how you are to blame. Yeah, it will suck and effect your friendship but if she isn't in to him she isn't into him and it wouldnt have worked out anyway

SFL Cat · 03-15-2009, 12:14 AM

If he knows martial arts or knows how to fight with knives, stop NOW!

Noop · 03-15-2009, 12:16 AM

Don't do it if she has that wondering eye with him what will happen when she wants to leave you?

Drake · 03-15-2009, 12:23 AM

You know what you get when you date a girl who won't break it off with one guy before starting up with another?

A girl who will do the exact same thing to you.

Radii · 03-15-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Don't do it if she has that wondering eye with him what will happen when she wants to leave you?

+1

mrsimperless · 03-15-2009, 12:26 AM

The only thing that I'm positive this guy knows for sure is douchebaggery. But he is a nice guy.

I don't know... its one of those situations where I wish I didn't have to make a decision. Yes, she is an absolutely outstanding girl, but all of my relationships end up in flaming piles of poo anyway. I think the best thing to do in this situation is to just let it go...

And maybe get some smooches when he's not looking ? =) Oh wait, that is a perfect example of why I suck as a human.

Plan B: I shall drink myself retarded

Noop · 03-15-2009, 12:32 AM

If you looking for a quick bang session and nothing serious be prepared to deal with him. Guys tend to get alittle crazy when it comes to women and although you might not see him as a friend, he might not think the same about you. If you really want her why not be honest with him after they breakup?

However the best thing to do is for her to breakup with him and you tell him you're interested in her. Anything else will likely lead to alot of stupidity. (And I know a think or two about stupidity)

Matthean · 03-15-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

However the best thing to do is for her to breakup with him and you tell him you're interested in her. Anything else will likely lead to alot of stupidity. (And I know a think or two about stupidity)

If they break up, why would I need to tell him I'm interested?

One openly honest talk with the girl should get any of the required answers you need really.

Noop · 03-15-2009, 12:41 AM

Because some dudes are territorial like that...

Drake · 03-15-2009, 12:46 AM

Plus, if he's someone you see on a regular basis, it's just a show of respect that short-circuits the territorial impulse.

Most people get much less upset about what you actually do than about feeling deceived by what you've done.

PilotMan · 03-15-2009, 12:56 AM

I have stolen and gone after other guys girls. All's fair in love and war, as long as nobody is married. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. If you win though, be prepared to lose at a later date.

Sun Tzu · 03-15-2009, 01:00 AM

I sense great things coming from this thread. Great things indeed.

Karlifornia · 03-15-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I have stolen and gone after other guys girls. All's fair in love and war, as long as nobody is married. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. If you win though, be prepared to lose at a later date.

I'm pretty much in the same boat here. I think I may have that weakness in me where I want what's forbidden. I mean, I actually have to see something desirable, but the idea that I shouldn't, or can't, puts something else into the recipe that makes me insatiable.

bulletsponge · 03-15-2009, 11:01 AM

a joke from Larry the cable guy... "Guns dont kill people, husbands who come home early do"

just a warning

panerd · 03-15-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Don't do it if she has that wondering eye with him what will happen when she wants to leave you?

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Originally Posted by Drake

You know what you get when you date a girl who won't break it off with one guy before starting up with another?

A girl who will do the exact same thing to you.

There is no getting around this. Of course there could be an exception to this rule but I have yet to see one in my life or with any of my friends. (And I have been on the stealing end twice and both gals ended up cheating on me in the same way they cheated on the previous guy with me)

Senator · 03-15-2009, 01:09 PM

"You will lose them like you get them" is the only girl advice my 88 year old grandad said to me before he passed.

SportsDino · 03-15-2009, 03:21 PM

Agree with the lose them like you get them quote.

First girl randomly goes with me without much reason, leaves pretty much randomly for who knows what reason.

Second girl was nervous to date at all, left because she was nervous about dating at all.

Third girl wanted to leave another guy (who was my friend at the time though a jerk) who was making her miserable, made me miserable to try to get me to leave once she found someone she liked better (who is somewhat of a friend, though he denied her attempts).

Whatever mental issues they have when you first start dating will still be there. If she loves to play games, I can guarantee you will be on the suffering end of one of them (or multiple) before it is all over with.

flere-imsaho · 03-16-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I sense great things coming from this thread. Great things indeed.

This absolutely needs to be a dynasty thread.

Telle · 03-16-2009, 10:47 AM

He's been with her a whopping month. That's not a very long time, and her eye is already wandering.. so I wouldn't exactly expect that relationship to last whether you impede on it or not.

However, believing you're in love with her is a little over the top. I'm sure you've fallen for her.. but really, you barely even know her. Your life will not be over if you somehow do not end up with this girl, no matter how smitten you are with her right now.

You basically have three options:
1. Make a move and break them up.
2. Wait for them to break up on their own and then make your move.
3. Give up, move on, and quit making googly eyes with her and fantasizing about stolen kisses.

jeheinz72 · 03-16-2009, 10:54 AM

Wow, I didn't know Mrs. Imperless played for the other team.

Seriously though, go for her. Life's too short to be worrying about every nice but d-bag-like guy out there.

Rizon · 03-16-2009, 11:06 AM

This is just a game girls play. One that guys ALWAYS lose.

RendeR · 03-16-2009, 11:18 AM

True but damn it can be fun before the buzzer sounds.....

BrianD · 03-16-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator

"You will lose them like you get them" is the only girl advice my 88 year old grandad said to me before he passed.

In a situation like this, you have to be a little careful with that quote. Is she into her current guy and willing to cheat on him? Bad news. Is she not into the current guy and looking for someone she is into? Not so bad.

Sgran · 03-16-2009, 12:35 PM

One month is nothing. If you like this girl then get in touch with her and see if she responds. If she is giving you good vibes then pursue it.

The older I get, the more I'm like Alan Arkin's character in Little Miss Sunshine. Mrsimperless, you should be getting that young stuff.

lurker · 03-17-2009, 09:54 AM

You should contact Rick Springfield and see if Jesse forgave him when he went after his girl.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

In a situation like this, you have to be a little careful with that quote. Is she into her current guy and willing to cheat on him? Bad news. Is she not into the current guy and looking for someone she is into? Not so bad.

until he becomes the guy that she's not into but doesn't have the courtesy to tell him

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-17-2009, 09:59 AM

Seriously. If she's "not into" this current guy, the fact that she's still with him would be a giant warning flag to me. Being with someone you're not into for the sake of being with someone doesn't speak well to her ability to forge healthy relationships.

Samdari · 03-17-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I have stolen and gone after other guys girls. All's fair in love and war, as long as nobody is married. Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose. If you win though, be prepared to lose at a later date.

Ended up marrying a girl who I met while she was dating a good (although relatively new) friend. He dumped her, I was there to give her a soft landing. She's still here 14 years (and 2 kids) later.

All is indeed fair in love and war.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Ended up marrying a girl who I met while she was dating a good (although relatively new) friend. He dumped her, I was there to give her a soft landing. She's still here 14 years (and 2 kids) later.

All is indeed fair in love and war.

but i think your story is different because you didn't break the two of them up, right?

BrianD · 03-17-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Seriously. If she's "not into" this current guy, the fact that she's still with him would be a giant warning flag to me. Being with someone you're not into for the sake of being with someone doesn't speak well to her ability to forge healthy relationships.

Dude, she's "still with him" for a total of one month. You know how relationship cycles go so she can't have gotten into the "not into him" part all that long ago.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-17-2009, 10:21 AM

Fair point - I overlooked the timing involved.

DanGarion · 03-17-2009, 10:25 AM

One man's sloppy seconds is another mans firsts...

M GO BLUE!!! · 03-17-2009, 12:00 PM

WWOJD?

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

WWOJD?

he'd prolly cut a bitch...

just sayin

Samdari · 03-17-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but i think your story is different because you didn't break the two of them up, right?

Nope.

The fact that he had technically dumped her seemed to make little difference to him. As soon as I swooped her up he wanted her back, however.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Nope.

The fact that he had technically dumped her seemed to make little difference to him. As soon as I swooped her up he wanted her back, however.

but it indicates a difference in her personality

Samdari · 03-17-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

but it indicates a difference in her personality

Oh, no, I assure you, she's quite insane.

Or, is that not what you meant?

I see your point.

Cringer · 03-17-2009, 01:29 PM

I think this situation is much better then having your genitals chopped off. Just read the description of the book about the last eunuch in China and you will agree.

Matthean · 03-17-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Wow, I didn't know Mrs. Imperless played for the other team.

Maybe because it's Mr. Simperless?

gkb · 03-17-2009, 02:29 PM

I think these things rarely turn out well. There are way too many women in the world to get involved with a friend's current or ex-girlfriend. Don't be that guy.

I also realize that there are exceptions to the rule, but if you're going to do it at least be open and honest about it.

CU Tiger · 03-17-2009, 04:55 PM

I sense a diagram in the near future, involving current BF ,ex BF before current BF, Mr. Simperless, a Eunuch, a toothbrush, a corndog and pumpy

heybrad · 03-17-2009, 05:52 PM

Whatever you're going to do, you need to do it now or you could end up like some Friends I know.

See... there was this guy Ross who really like Rachel. He waited years to tell her (even getting married to a lesbo first). Then when he finally tried to tell her, she lays down for this Italian dude named Paolo. By the time she was done banging that dude, Ross had moved on to laying pipe with some Asian chick. Next thing you know Ross finds out the Rachel wants some, so he finally gets some Rachel stank on his hang low, only to have her start flirting around with some dude at her job. They end up on a break and Ross bangs a bar fly and next thing you know they are practically starting the whole cycle again.

That's why I say act now. Do you really want to go through that?

Neuqua · 03-17-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by heybrad

Whatever you're going to do, you need to do it now or you could end up like some Friends I know.

See... there was this guy Ross who really like Rachel. He waited years to tell her (even getting married to a lesbo first). Then when he finally tried to tell her, she lays down for this Italian dude named Paolo. By the time she was done banging that dude, Ross had moved on to laying pipe with some Asian chick. Next thing you know Ross finds out the Rachel wants some, so he finally gets some Rachel stank on his hang low, only to have her start flirting around with some dude at her job. They end up on a break and Ross bangs a bar fly and next thing you know they are practically starting the whole cycle again.

Dude I could totally see that as a TV show.

PadresFan104 · 03-17-2009, 08:52 PM

Surprised that nobody else has said it, so... "Bro's before Ho's!!!"

There are plenty of other women out there man. Let this one go...

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03-15-2009, 12:26 AM	#8
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	The only thing that I'm positive this guy knows for sure is douchebaggery. But he is a nice guy. I don't know... its one of those situations where I wish I didn't have to make a decision. Yes, she is an absolutely outstanding girl, but all of my relationships end up in flaming piles of poo anyway. I think the best thing to do in this situation is to just let it go... And maybe get some smooches when he's not looking ? =) Oh wait, that is a perfect example of why I suck as a human. Plan B: I shall drink myself retarded __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

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Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	If you looking for a quick bang session and nothing serious be prepared to deal with him. Guys tend to get alittle crazy when it comes to women and although you might not see him as a friend, he might not think the same about you. If you really want her why not be honest with him after they breakup? However the best thing to do is for her to breakup with him and you tell him you're interested in her. Anything else will likely lead to alot of stupidity. (And I know a think or two about stupidity) __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

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03-15-2009, 12:09 AM	#3
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If she decides to leave him for you I don't see how you are to blame. Yeah, it will suck and effect your friendship but if she isn't in to him she isn't into him and it wouldnt have worked out anyway

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Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Plus, if he's someone you see on a regular basis, it's just a show of respect that short-circuits the territorial impulse. Most people get much less upset about what you actually do than about feeling deceived by what you've done.

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03-15-2009, 03:21 PM	#19
SportsDino College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2001	Agree with the lose them like you get them quote. First girl randomly goes with me without much reason, leaves pretty much randomly for who knows what reason. Second girl was nervous to date at all, left because she was nervous about dating at all. Third girl wanted to leave another guy (who was my friend at the time though a jerk) who was making her miserable, made me miserable to try to get me to leave once she found someone she liked better (who is somewhat of a friend, though he denied her attempts). Whatever mental issues they have when you first start dating will still be there. If she loves to play games, I can guarantee you will be on the suffering end of one of them (or multiple) before it is all over with.

03-16-2009, 10:47 AM	#21
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	He's been with her a whopping month. That's not a very long time, and her eye is already wandering.. so I wouldn't exactly expect that relationship to last whether you impede on it or not. However, believing you're in love with her is a little over the top. I'm sure you've fallen for her.. but really, you barely even know her. Your life will not be over if you somehow do not end up with this girl, no matter how smitten you are with her right now. You basically have three options: 1. Make a move and break them up. 2. Wait for them to break up on their own and then make your move. 3. Give up, move on, and quit making googly eyes with her and fantasizing about stolen kisses.

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Sgran High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Budapest	One month is nothing. If you like this girl then get in touch with her and see if she responds. If she is giving you good vibes then pursue it. The older I get, the more I'm like Alan Arkin's character in Little Miss Sunshine. Mrsimperless, you should be getting that young stuff. __________________ What the hell is Mike Brown diagramming for them during timeouts? Is he like the guy from "Memento" or something? Guys, I just thought of something … what if we ran a high screen for LeBron?

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lurker High School JV Join Date: May 2001	You should contact Rick Springfield and see if Jesse forgave him when he went after his girl.

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Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Seriously. If she's "not into" this current guy, the fact that she's still with him would be a giant warning flag to me. Being with someone you're not into for the sake of being with someone doesn't speak well to her ability to forge healthy relationships. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

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03-17-2009, 02:29 PM	#42
gkb High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado	I think these things rarely turn out well. There are way too many women in the world to get involved with a friend's current or ex-girlfriend. Don't be that guy. I also realize that there are exceptions to the rule, but if you're going to do it at least be open and honest about it. __________________ BALLERZ YO, fo shizzle. - QuikSand

03-17-2009, 04:55 PM	#43
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03-17-2009, 05:52 PM	#44
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Whatever you're going to do, you need to do it now or you could end up like some Friends I know. See... there was this guy Ross who really like Rachel. He waited years to tell her (even getting married to a lesbo first). Then when he finally tried to tell her, she lays down for this Italian dude named Paolo. By the time she was done banging that dude, Ross had moved on to laying pipe with some Asian chick. Next thing you know Ross finds out the Rachel wants some, so he finally gets some Rachel stank on his hang low, only to have her start flirting around with some dude at her job. They end up on a break and Ross bangs a bar fly and next thing you know they are practically starting the whole cycle again. That's why I say act now. Do you really want to go through that?

03-17-2009, 08:52 PM	#46
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