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View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. 5 5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. 2 2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") 30 33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. 12 13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration 6 6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. 30 33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) 5 5.56%
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Old 01-19-2021, 11:49 AM   #2501
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Old 01-19-2021, 12:21 PM   #2502
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Much of the Greene stuff was known before the election. I saw a number of instances where her YT videos were publicized (including in articles) and initially the GOP did not back her... until she proved she could win. Then they accepted her and ignored the obvious.
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Old 01-19-2021, 12:31 PM   #2503
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It's so ridiculous that this is being said out loud over and over.

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Old 01-19-2021, 01:30 PM   #2505
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It's so ridiculous that this is being said out loud over and over.


Can't they just ban Democrats from voting? I feel like that would give them a great shot at winning.
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Old 01-19-2021, 01:33 PM   #2507
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Old 01-19-2021, 01:40 PM   #2508
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It seems like, if the modern GOP would rather focus on how to change the rules and accessibility for who can vote and how they can vote, rather than try to actually appeal to more voters they will eventually either succeed in completely subverting democracy or run themselves into extinction.

I have spent some thought wondering if the polls were off this year because the Republicans ran a traditional ground game and the Democrats sort of played by coronavirus-inspired house rules. I think there is a chance that, post-covid, when the Democrats can have a more traditional GOTV operation, things may look more like 2018 than 2020 because the Republicans have squeezed so many moderate to moderate-right folks out of the equation (and I'm sure it will eventually shift back at some point, when the spectrum of Dem voters gets too broad).
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Old 01-19-2021, 01:55 PM   #2509
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I have spent some thought wondering if the polls were off this year because the Republicans ran a traditional ground game and the Democrats sort of played by coronavirus-inspired house rules. I think there is a chance that, post-covid, when the Democrats can have a more traditional GOTV operation, things may look more like 2018 than 2020 because the Republicans have squeezed so many moderate to moderate-right folks out of the equation (and I'm sure it will eventually shift back at some point, when the spectrum of Dem voters gets too broad).


I think this has been hugely overlooked. Data has shown that TV ads do very little to move the needle with voters, but face to face contact and get out the vote measures do have a very measurable impact. Dems took covid seriously and stopped their ground games almost entirely while the GOP continued as of covid didn't exist. Dems are being mocked for losing races they poured so much money into, but they really didn't have much choice when the better options were off the table.
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Old 01-19-2021, 03:33 PM   #2510
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12 National guardsmen were removed from the inauguration after vetting discovered links to right wing extremeist groups.

And then known piece of shit texas governor greg abbott throws a fit that there was vetting

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Old 01-19-2021, 04:34 PM   #2511
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Old 01-19-2021, 04:55 PM   #2512
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12 National guardsmen were removed from the inauguration after vetting discovered links to right wing extremeist groups.

And then known piece of shit texas governor greg abbott throws a fit that there was vetting

Greg Abbott Feigns Outrage Over National Guard Vetting

YOU can't do that! We placed those terrorists there for a reason! We grew those terrorists! This is their moment!

To be fair, the FBI indicated that not all 12 were tied to extremism. Two were for inappropriate remarks and some of the other 10 were related to criminal history. Extremist ties were not parsed out.

And yeah, fuck Greg Abbott, another useless sycophant.
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Old 01-19-2021, 04:57 PM   #2513
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Old 01-19-2021, 05:02 PM   #2514
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He was probably thinking "day of".

Is there single website that consolidates everyone that has been arrested, still wanted, their bios, insurrection pics etc.
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He was probably thinking "day of".

Is there single website that consolidates everyone that has been arrested, still wanted, their bios, insurrection pics etc.

Yes I saw all of that on the FBI website

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Old 01-19-2021, 05:31 PM   #2516
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You just know that there was a big meeting of some FBI Task Force where they ranked all the suspects by priority (like fligh risk, danger etc) or available info and then someone played that video, everybody looked at each other and put him way up there at the top
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Old 01-19-2021, 05:46 PM   #2517
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Yes I saw all of that on the FBI website

Thanks. There are some good face shots. If they are still outstanding that probably friends & family don't know they are wanted, or they are aiding and abetting.

MSM incl/Fox and newspapers should do front page mugshot of the day.
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Old 01-19-2021, 06:31 PM   #2518
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MSM incl/Fox and newspapers should do front page mugshot of the day.


FoxNews.com spent 2-3 days with a picture of the one black/BLM they could find in the capitol protest pasted to the front page, as the only picture representing a rioter FWIW. I think their motives are still questionable.
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Old 01-19-2021, 07:14 PM   #2520
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This surprises me actually. I thought buying republicans without consequences was kind of "their thing"

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Lets be honest, though, they're just going to buy new politicians who are slightly less toxic come 2022.

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Old 01-20-2021, 08:41 AM   #2521
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So I guess #3 is the winner here. He did basically give up a week or so before the inauguration.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:48 AM   #2522
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So I guess #3 is the winner here. He did basically give up a week or so before the inauguration.

Number 3 wins, but only after replay review to confirm it isn't number 4.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:50 AM   #2523
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"Look, Jim. You can see the Secret Service making plans to remove him, but the agent never makes a 'removal move' that we can see from this angle. And that's what you need for number 4. I just don't see how you can overturn number 3 based on this angle."
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"Look, Jim. You can see the Secret Service making plans to remove him, but the agent never makes a 'removal move' that we can see from this angle. And that's what you need for number 4. I just don't see how you can overturn number 3 based on this angle."
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:10 AM   #2525
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He took 2 steps toward insurrection but never made a Presidential move.
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How do we know that wasn't a Trump body double leaving and the real Tump won't be in the Oval Office running the country with Biden under (White) house arrest?
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:26 AM   #2527
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That was last week's story. This week it's a Face/Off situation. That's Biden's face on Trump's body!
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:48 AM   #2528
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Ummm. I think we'd be able to observe a Face/Off situation just based on Trump's girth...
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:49 AM   #2529
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I'm sure that would be explained away. Like Biden's stutter/stammer - that's just Trump learning Biden's speech patterns as he goes.
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Ummm. I think we'd be able to observe a Face/Off situation just based on Trump's girth...

Maybe Trump was just wearing extra shirts like James Harden in Houston.
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"Look, Jim. You can see the Secret Service making plans to remove him, but the agent never makes a 'removal move' that we can see from this angle. And that's what you need for number 4. I just don't see how you can overturn number 3 based on this angle."

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He took 2 steps toward insurrection but never made a Presidential move.

I love both of these posts.
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Old 01-20-2021, 12:25 PM   #2532
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KY GOP pissed at McConnell for his comments yesterday. He's been censured by the Nelson County GOP. Lol
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KY GOP pissed at McConnell for his comments yesterday. He's been censured by the Nelson County GOP. Lol

That means he can no longer marry a family member in the county , right?
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Old 01-20-2021, 12:59 PM   #2534
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actually he never really gave up. I don't think there is a winner here
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Old 01-20-2021, 01:28 PM   #2535
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My guess is this is McConnell's last term as he will be 84 if he runs again.
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yes there is.

America won.
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i meant the poll in this thread but yes...
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If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next

So the 5D Q chess players big conspiracy theory fell apart... did they more take an inventory amidst the wreckage and give it up or do they plow forward so that they never have to admit that their cult was built upon a fallacy?


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Just a thought, but it is really that hard to track down the person(s) at the root of all this QAnon shit with the technology we have?

I would think at this point there would have to be some charges you could apply to whoever they are. and I get this is a movement now, but there is still a central "voice" is there not?

‘We All Got Played’: QAnon Followers Implode After Big Moment Never Comes

As expected, the QAnon community is in disarray at the moment. Evidently one of the central voices is a guy named Ron Watkins. Ron Watkins is the founder of 8chan. My favorite part of the article.

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So not so much on the freedom of speech after all.
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There seems to be a conspiracy that China is behind it all and the US will be communist soon. People that have barely ever made more than $15 an hour in their lives are convinced it would be the downfall of the country.
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More Q fallout. I mean, what possible reason could Trump have played along with Q? Surely it couldn't have been the ego stroke and financial windfall?!

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As expected, the QAnon community is in disarray at the moment. Evidently one of the central voices is a guy named Ron Watkins. Ron Watkins is the founder of 8chan. My favorite part of the article.



So not so much on the freedom of speech after all.
This is my favorite theory: By midday, a new spin to the conspiracy theory gripped the far-right message boards: Biden has been their savior all along, a twist multiple QAnon influencers threw their support behind.
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This is my favorite theory: By midday, a new spin to the conspiracy theory gripped the far-right message boards: Biden has been their savior all along, a twist multiple QAnon influencers threw their support behind.

It is fucking genius how they’ve made the leap

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