The Ladder planning thread

Kodos · 09-16-2011, 06:54 PM

The following teams have been built in Teambuilder and are ready to test out. Let me know if I got details wrong. I wasn't allowed to use KU to abbreviate Kansas, so some teams will have some inaccuracies that we can't get around, unfortunately.

USC
Duke
Indiana
USF
Rice
Buffalo
Clemson
Wake Forest
Kansas
Wyoming A&M (found under omnivore93 gamertag)

Link to original thread: NCAA 2012 OD signup thread - The Ladder (Xbox 360) - Front Office Football Central

Kodos · 09-16-2011, 06:55 PM

Owner list as of 9/28. (Reflects spleen dropping out/chesapeake taking Duke instead of Weak Forest.)

Code:

In              Team           Roster        Tag
TRO             Kansas         Kansas        Royal Ape	
Kodos           Indiana        Indiana       Kodos For Prez
MacroGuru       Buffalo        Buffalo       TriadicGoblin
chesapeake      Duke           Duke          Chesapeake1	
gstelmack       USF            Fresno State  GRCurmudgeon
EaglesFan27     USC            Baylor        EaglesFan27	
cartman         Rice           Rice          cartman FOFC

Kodos · 09-16-2011, 06:55 PM

These are the sliders that Dark Cloud suggested below in the thread.

All-American
Time: 8 min.
Game Speed: Slow
Speed Threshold: 25

Offense (HUM/CPU)
QB Acc. 15/25
Pass Block 50/50
WR Catch 45/45
RB Ability 45/85
Run Block 20/50

Defense
Pass Coverage 40/50
Pass Rush 25/15
INT 20/35
Rush Defense 10/55
Tackling 15/15

Special Teams
FG Power 45
FG Acc. 30/35
Punt Power 50
Punt Acc. 40
Kickoff Power 50

Basically, SECElite's last edit but I've bumped passing up and CPU INT down. I'll try a game using yours and see how it goes, EF27.
__________________

Kodos · 09-16-2011, 09:12 PM

Do we just want to plunk everyone into one conference to start, and just move a little slower for our first season to let people play eachother? With a 10-team division, we'd go round-robin, so there'd be 9 conference games and 3 out-of-conference games.

TRO · 09-16-2011, 09:24 PM

Unless we are starting on tier 2, 10 of us won't fit in 1 conference.

Kodos · 09-16-2011, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRO

Unless we are starting on tier 2, 10 of us won't fit in 1 conference.

Yeah, I would steal a slot from the independents. I didn't think we'd have this many guys signing up when I created the diagram.

TRO · 09-17-2011, 11:14 AM

I think I would prefer splitting us up. Either 5 & 5 or 2 3 3 2.

Young Drachma · 09-17-2011, 05:36 PM

I'm down for being split up, but scheduling each other would obviously be fun for bragging rights...

chesapeake · 09-19-2011, 09:11 AM

Given the ladder structure and the frequent shifting in conferences, if we don't start out in the same conference, some of you may never get the chance for your free win against me.

Kodos · 09-21-2011, 07:35 AM

Any thoughts on going with this roster? Sounds like it potentially fixes some gameplay issues like super linebackers, psychic DBs, etc.

Roster Edits for better Game Play Guide - Operation Sports Forums

Kodos · 09-23-2011, 03:57 PM

I'm going to try to come up with a new league structure today with two 10-team conferences that will be the initial home for our teams.

Kodos · 09-23-2011, 03:57 PM

If anyone has preferred sliders, please post them in this thread.

Kodos · 09-30-2011, 09:33 PM

Here is the new league setup I came up with. The static conference ratings made things a bit painful, but I think this setup can work.

Kodos · 09-30-2011, 11:16 PM

Detailed look: Teams will be aligned using EA's rankings.

Kodos · 10-01-2011, 08:18 AM

Here are the league alignments. I replaced two independent teams with Towson and Wake Forest teambuildered teams that conform to our setup, just in case we ended up with a couple of people wanting to come on board in the future.

Kodos · 10-01-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Any thoughts on going with this roster? Sounds like it potentially fixes some gameplay issues like super linebackers, psychic DBs, etc.

Roster Edits for better Game Play Guide - Operation Sports Forums

Nobody had any comments about the roster we use. Should we use a close-to-default roster like the one by Fairdale Kings, or the one above that reportedly improves gameplay?

Also, if anyone has good AA sliders, please post them.

Young Drachma · 10-01-2011, 10:42 PM

Seems these are working for the FOFC guys in the forums: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - NCAA Football '12 impressions thread

And whatever rosters you find on OS that seem to be okay are fine with me, it's not a big deal really.

Kodos · 10-02-2011, 11:38 PM

I used GotMadSkillzson's roster, and the sliders Dark Cloud linked to in the post above. Any suggestions for penalty sliders? I've boosted offensive and defensive pass interference to 100.

Kodos · 10-02-2011, 11:39 PM

Does anyone have thoughts on allowing / disallowing user catches?. We ended up banning them last year in our OD. Didn't know if we wanted to do that again this year.

gstelmack · 10-03-2011, 07:13 AM

FWIW, I have sufficiently little recent NCAA experience that I'm trusting those of you who do to set this up, that's why I'm not commenting. I'll be online soon.

chesapeake · 10-03-2011, 04:22 PM

Just noticing that I am Duke and not Weak Forest. That's a relief!

Like gstelmack, I'll need detailed instructions on anything unusual that needs doing, like changing sliders and all that. Otherwise, I'll log in this evening and take over my Devils.

Go to hell, Carolina.

Kodos · 10-03-2011, 08:33 PM

No need to worry about sliders. The commish sets them for the league.

TRO · 10-03-2011, 11:38 PM

Sliders can go a number of different ways, generally I like Slow or Very Slow plus a low Speed Threshold. The ones posted by DC meet that, so I'm happy.

Penalties - I've grown tired of messing with. Either they don't get called at all or they get called too much. Whatever we choose, I'm good with.

I expect to be in the MAC for a while

TRO · 10-03-2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Does anyone have thoughts on allowing / disallowing user catches?. We ended up banning them last year in our OD. Didn't know if we wanted to do that again this year.

Is that for both WR and Defense? I don't normally control my receivers, but I do switch defenders frequently, often to my detriment.

Kodos · 10-04-2011, 07:24 AM

It applied to both defense and offense last year.

FWIW, if I switch, it often causes a blown assignment too. I blame a general lack of coordination and being in my forties.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-04-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

It applied to both defense and offense last year.

FWIW, if I switch, it often causes a blown assignment too. I blame a general lack of coordination and being in my forties.

Ditto for me, well I am in my 30's still.

cartman · 10-04-2011, 11:11 AM

I'll be back home on Friday, so I'll log in and check then. But there is a hold on my Xbox Live account. Last week I got a couple of emails that 600 then 400 points were purchased. Interesting, because I wasn't home at the time, and no one was at the house. They put a hold on the account while they are investigating.

Kodos · 10-04-2011, 11:39 AM

Thanks for the info. We'll wait until you can iron things out, cartman.

Kodos · 10-09-2011, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

I'll be back home on Friday, so I'll log in and check then. But there is a hold on my Xbox Live account. Last week I got a couple of emails that 600 then 400 points were purchased. Interesting, because I wasn't home at the time, and no one was at the house. They put a hold on the account while they are investigating.

Any update on this, cartman?

cartman · 10-10-2011, 06:12 PM

Car broke down on me yesterday on the way back home from Ft. Worth. Got home earlier this afternoon, but haven't had a chance to check and see what my Xbox Live account looks like. I'll do so this evening.

cartman · 10-10-2011, 08:21 PM

Well, that sucks. My account is locked out until they complete their investigation. They said it could take up to 20 days, and that would be from last Friday, when I gave them the rest of the console info. So if y'all don't want to wait, I completely understand, and hopefully there will still be a spot when this gets resolved.

Kodos · 10-10-2011, 08:35 PM

That sucks, cartman. There will absolutely be a spot for you. Currently, you have up to 6 spots available for you.

I think in the interest of keeping people interested, we'll kick things off though. If it was a shorter wait, I would consider holding things up, but I don't want this to die on the vine. I will redo Rice's schedule so that you miss out on a minimal number of games.

cartman · 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM

Cool, thanks. Hopefully they wrap up their findings soon. I'm really interested in hearing how my gamer tag bought points when my console was turned off.

Kodos · 10-10-2011, 10:37 PM

Yes. That would be interesting to know.

You have no games for the first two weeks. That should get you most of the way, hopefully.

gstelmack · 10-11-2011, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

Cool, thanks. Hopefully they wrap up their findings soon. I'm really interested in hearing how my gamer tag bought points when my console was turned off.

If you have it linked to a Live ID, you can do this through the web.

cartman · 10-11-2011, 10:54 PM

The website just shows that they were purchased and the last 4 digits of the credit card used. There are no other details published. I'm figuring that something got mixed up in a back end server, since I was about 200 miles away and no one was at my house when the 6,000 and 4,000 point purchases were made within 2 minutes of each other.

gstelmack · 10-12-2011, 08:49 AM

Sorry, I meant someone could have logged into your Live ID and bought the points from the web.

cartman · 10-16-2011, 12:02 AM

Looks like my case wasn't an isolated event, and there might be a possibility that the route of entry to the account is via the EA link.

Y'all might want to double check your account settings on both XBox Live and your EA account that is linked to your Xbox account.

Xbox Live users suffering hacked accounts, FIFA 11 and 12 purchases (Updated with Microsoft's response)

gstelmack · 10-17-2011, 08:41 AM

I haven't been hit yet, but I'll double-check passwords and the like.

MacroGuru · 01-17-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

These are the sliders that Dark Cloud suggested below in the thread.

All-American
Time: 8 min.
Game Speed: Slow
Speed Threshold: 25

Offense (HUM/CPU)
QB Acc. 15/25
Pass Block 50/50
WR Catch 45/45
RB Ability 45/85
Run Block 20/50

Defense
Pass Coverage 40/50
Pass Rush 25/15
INT 20/35
Rush Defense 10/55
Tackling 15/15

Special Teams
FG Power 45
FG Acc. 30/35
Punt Power 50
Punt Acc. 40
Kickoff Power 50

Basically, SECElite's last edit but I've bumped passing up and CPU INT down. I'll try a game using yours and see how it goes, EF27.
__________________

So are these the sliders we are using?

Kodos · 01-17-2012, 11:33 AM

I believe so, yes.

09-16-2011, 06:55 PM	#2
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Owner list as of 9/28. (Reflects spleen dropping out/chesapeake taking Duke instead of Weak Forest.) Code: In Team Roster Tag TRO Kansas Kansas Royal Ape Kodos Indiana Indiana Kodos For Prez MacroGuru Buffalo Buffalo TriadicGoblin chesapeake Duke Duke Chesapeake1 gstelmack USF Fresno State GRCurmudgeon EaglesFan27 USC Baylor EaglesFan27 cartman Rice Rice cartman FOFC __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 10-09-2011 at 08:22 PM.

09-16-2011, 06:55 PM	#3
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	These are the sliders that Dark Cloud suggested below in the thread. All-American Time: 8 min. Game Speed: Slow Speed Threshold: 25 Offense (HUM/CPU) QB Acc. 15/25 Pass Block 50/50 WR Catch 45/45 RB Ability 45/85 Run Block 20/50 Defense Pass Coverage 40/50 Pass Rush 25/15 INT 20/35 Rush Defense 10/55 Tackling 15/15 Special Teams FG Power 45 FG Acc. 30/35 Punt Power 50 Punt Acc. 40 Kickoff Power 50 Basically, SECElite's last edit but I've bumped passing up and CPU INT down. I'll try a game using yours and see how it goes, EF27. __________________ __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 10-02-2011 at 11:40 PM.

09-16-2011, 09:12 PM	#4
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Do we just want to plunk everyone into one conference to start, and just move a little slower for our first season to let people play eachother? With a 10-team division, we'd go round-robin, so there'd be 9 conference games and 3 out-of-conference games. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 09-16-2011 at 09:17 PM.

09-16-2011, 09:24 PM	#5
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	Unless we are starting on tier 2, 10 of us won't fit in 1 conference. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

09-17-2011, 11:14 AM	#7
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	I think I would prefer splitting us up. Either 5 & 5 or 2 3 3 2. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

09-17-2011, 05:36 PM	#8
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'm down for being split up, but scheduling each other would obviously be fun for bragging rights... __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

09-19-2011, 09:11 AM	#9
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Given the ladder structure and the frequent shifting in conferences, if we don't start out in the same conference, some of you may never get the chance for your free win against me.

09-21-2011, 07:35 AM	#10
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Any thoughts on going with this roster? Sounds like it potentially fixes some gameplay issues like super linebackers, psychic DBs, etc. Roster Edits for better Game Play Guide - Operation Sports Forums __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-23-2011, 03:57 PM	#11
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I'm going to try to come up with a new league structure today with two 10-team conferences that will be the initial home for our teams. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-01-2011, 10:42 PM	#17
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Seems these are working for the FOFC guys in the forums: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - NCAA Football '12 impressions thread And whatever rosters you find on OS that seem to be okay are fine with me, it's not a big deal really. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

10-02-2011, 11:38 PM	#18
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I used GotMadSkillzson's roster, and the sliders Dark Cloud linked to in the post above. Any suggestions for penalty sliders? I've boosted offensive and defensive pass interference to 100. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 10-02-2011 at 11:39 PM.

10-02-2011, 11:39 PM	#19
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Does anyone have thoughts on allowing / disallowing user catches?. We ended up banning them last year in our OD. Didn't know if we wanted to do that again this year. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-03-2011, 07:13 AM	#20
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	FWIW, I have sufficiently little recent NCAA experience that I'm trusting those of you who do to set this up, that's why I'm not commenting. I'll be online soon. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

10-03-2011, 04:22 PM	#21
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Just noticing that I am Duke and not Weak Forest. That's a relief! Like gstelmack, I'll need detailed instructions on anything unusual that needs doing, like changing sliders and all that. Otherwise, I'll log in this evening and take over my Devils. Go to hell, Carolina.

10-03-2011, 08:33 PM	#22
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	No need to worry about sliders. The commish sets them for the league. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-03-2011, 11:38 PM	#23
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	Sliders can go a number of different ways, generally I like Slow or Very Slow plus a low Speed Threshold. The ones posted by DC meet that, so I'm happy. Penalties - I've grown tired of messing with. Either they don't get called at all or they get called too much. Whatever we choose, I'm good with. I expect to be in the MAC for a while __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

10-04-2011, 07:24 AM	#25
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It applied to both defense and offense last year. FWIW, if I switch, it often causes a blown assignment too. I blame a general lack of coordination and being in my forties. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-04-2011, 11:11 AM	#27
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'll be back home on Friday, so I'll log in and check then. But there is a hold on my Xbox Live account. Last week I got a couple of emails that 600 then 400 points were purchased. Interesting, because I wasn't home at the time, and no one was at the house. They put a hold on the account while they are investigating. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-04-2011, 11:39 AM	#28
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Thanks for the info. We'll wait until you can iron things out, cartman. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-10-2011, 06:12 PM	#30
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Car broke down on me yesterday on the way back home from Ft. Worth. Got home earlier this afternoon, but haven't had a chance to check and see what my Xbox Live account looks like. I'll do so this evening. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-10-2011, 08:21 PM	#31
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Well, that sucks. My account is locked out until they complete their investigation. They said it could take up to 20 days, and that would be from last Friday, when I gave them the rest of the console info. So if y'all don't want to wait, I completely understand, and hopefully there will still be a spot when this gets resolved. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-10-2011, 08:35 PM	#32
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	That sucks, cartman. There will absolutely be a spot for you. Currently, you have up to 6 spots available for you. I think in the interest of keeping people interested, we'll kick things off though. If it was a shorter wait, I would consider holding things up, but I don't want this to die on the vine. I will redo Rice's schedule so that you miss out on a minimal number of games. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-10-2011, 10:13 PM	#33
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Cool, thanks. Hopefully they wrap up their findings soon. I'm really interested in hearing how my gamer tag bought points when my console was turned off. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-10-2011, 10:37 PM	#34
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Yes. That would be interesting to know. You have no games for the first two weeks. That should get you most of the way, hopefully. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-11-2011, 10:54 PM	#36
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The website just shows that they were purchased and the last 4 digits of the credit card used. There are no other details published. I'm figuring that something got mixed up in a back end server, since I was about 200 miles away and no one was at my house when the 6,000 and 4,000 point purchases were made within 2 minutes of each other. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-12-2011, 08:49 AM	#37
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Sorry, I meant someone could have logged into your Live ID and bought the points from the web. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

10-16-2011, 12:02 AM	#38
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Looks like my case wasn't an isolated event, and there might be a possibility that the route of entry to the account is via the EA link. Y'all might want to double check your account settings on both XBox Live and your EA account that is linked to your Xbox account. Xbox Live users suffering hacked accounts, FIFA 11 and 12 purchases (Updated with Microsoft's response) __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-17-2011, 08:41 AM	#39
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I haven't been hit yet, but I'll double-check passwords and the like. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

01-17-2012, 11:33 AM	#41
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I believe so, yes. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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