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Top 100 Coaches in the NCAA
Thought this might generate some discussion. Maybe not. I've always liked this site, they seem to hit things pretty close to the mark most of the time, and this list doesn't seem to be one of those "let's say something stupid to generate a lot of hits" lists. So what do you think?
Top 100 Coaches in NCAA Here is the list itself with the write-ups edited out. 1. Urban Meyer(44-9 at Florida 83-17 Overall) 2. Nick Saban(19-8 at Alabama 110-50-1 overall) 3. Pete Carroll(88-15 at Southern Cal and overall) 4. Bob Stoops(109-24 at Oklahoma and overall) 5. Butch Davis(12-12 at UNC and 62-32 overall) 6. Jim Tressel(83-19 at Ohio State and 218-76-2 overall) 7. Frank Beamer(176-89-2 at Virginia Tech and 218-112-4 overall) 8. Joe Paterno(383-127-3 at Penn State and overall) 9. Mack Brown(115-26 at Texas and 201-100-1 overall) 10. Mark Richt(82-22 at Georgia and overall) 11. Steve Spurrier(28-22 at South Carolina and 170-62-2 overall) 12. Jim Grobe(54-44 at Wake Forest and 87-77-1 overall) 13. Bobby Petrino(5-7 at Arkansas and 46-16 overall) 14. Paul Johnson(9-4 at Georgia Tech and 116-43 overall) 15. Mike Leach(76-39 at Texas Tech and overall) 16. Jeff Tedford(59-30 at Cal and overall) 17. Howard Schnellenberger(48-48 at Florida Atlantic and 148-125-3 overall) 18. Chris Petersen(35-4 at Boise State and overall) 19. Kirk Ferentz(70-53 at Iowa) 20. Bobby Bowden(309-91-4 at FSU and 382-123-4 overall) 21. Rich Rodriguez(3-9 at Michigan and 63-29 overall) 22. Mark Dantonio(16-10 at Michigan State and 34-27 overall) 23. Bo Pelini(10-4 at Nebraska and overall) 24. Les Miles(42-11 at LSU and 70-31 overall) 25. Dennis Erickson(15-10 at ASU and 163-74-1 overall 26. Gary Patterson(73-27 at TCU and overall) 27. Jim Leavitt(87-52 at South Florida and overall) 28. Mike Riley(56-42 at Oregon State and overall) 29. Kyle Whittingham(37-14 at Utah and overall) 30. Ralph Friedgen(64-36 at Maryland and overall) 31. Bill Snyder(136-68-1 at Kansas State and overall) 32. Greg Schiano(46-51 at Rutgers and overall) 33. Bronco Mendenhall(38-13 at BYU and overall) 34.Skip Holtz(29-22 at East Carolina and 62-45 overall) 35. Houston Nutt(9-4 at Ole Miss and 119-75 overall) 36. Brian Kelly(21-6 at Cincinnati and 157-57-2 overall) 37. Mark Mangino(45-41 at Kansas and overall) 38. Rick Neuheisel(4-8 at UCLA and 70-38 overall) 39. Chris Ault(198-91-1 at Nevada and overall) 40. Pat Hill(92-61 at Fresno State and overall) 41. Gary Pinkel(59-41 at Missouri and 132-78-3 overall) 42. Rich Brooks(32-41 at Kentucky and 121-152-4 overall) 43. Art Briles(4-8 at Baylor 38-36 overall) 44. Bobby Johnson(27-56 at Vanderbilt and 87-92 overall) 45. Bret Bielema(28-11 at Wisconsin and overall) 46. June Jones(1-11 at SMU and 77-52 overall) 47. Todd Graham(21-7 at Tulsa and 28-13 overall) 48. Turner Gill(15-23 at Buffalo and overall) 49. Dick Tomey(23-25 at San Jose State and 181-135-7 overall) 50. Charlie Weis(29-21 at Notre Dame and overall) 51. Larry Blakeney(144-73-1 at Troy and overall) 52. Mike Gundy(27-23 at Oklahoma State and overall) 53. David Cutcliffe(4-8 at Duke and 48-37 overall) 54. Tom O'Brien(11-14 at NC State and 86-59 overall) 55. Pat Fitzgerald(19-18 at Northwestern and overall) 56.Jim Harbaugh(9-15 at Stanford and 38-21 overall) 57. Derek Dooley(13-12 at Louisiana Tech and overall) 58. Mike Price(30-30 at UTEP and 159-152 overall) 59. Larry Fedora(7-6 at Southern Miss and overall) 60. Troy Calhoun(17-9 at Air Force and overall) 61. George O'Leary(26-36 at UCF and 78-69 overall) 62.Steve Roberts(37-47 at Arkansas State and 84-82-1 overall) 63. Randy Edsall(58-60 at UConn and overall) 64. Mike Stoops(25-34 at Arizona and overall) 65. Steve Fairchild(7-6 at Colorado State and overall) 66. Tim Brewster(7-18 at Minnesota and overall) 67. Al Groh(56-44 at Virginia and 82-84 overall) 68. Bill Stewart(10-4 at West Virginia and 18-29 overall) 69. Brady Hoke(0-0 at SD State and 34-38 overall) 70. Tommy West(47-51 at Memphis and 82-86 overall) 71. Dan Mullen(1st year as a NCAA Head Coach) 72. Ken Niumatalolo(8-6 at Navy and overall) 73. Dan Christensen(1st year as a NCAA Head Coach) 74. Dan Hawkins(13-24 at Colorado and 107-46-1 overall) 75. Bill Cubit(29-20 at Western Michigan and overall) 76. Rick Stockstill(17-20 at Middle Tennessee and overall) 77. Frank Solich(23-26 at Ohio and 81-45 overall) 78.Steve Sarkisian(1st year as NCAA Head Coach) 79. Dave Wannstedt(25-23 at Pitt and overall) 80. Kevin Sumlin(8-5 at Houston and overall) 81. David Bailiff(13-12 at Rice and 34-27 overall) 82. Butch Jones(16-11 at Central Michigan and overall) 83. Jerry Kill(6-7 at Northern Illinois and 99-53 overall) 84. Rich Ellerson(56-34 overall 1st season at Army) 85. Ron Zook(18-30 at Illinois and 41-44 overall) 86 Bill Lynch(10-15 at Indiana and 91-82-3 overall) 87 Gene Chizik(5-19 at Iowa State and overall) 88.Greg McMackin(7-7 at Hawaii and overall) 89. Mario Christobal(6-18 overall and at FIU) 90 Lane Kiffin(1st year as a NCAA Head Coach) 91 Dave Elson(39-32 at Western Kentucky and overall) 92 Frank Spaziani(1-0 at Boston College and overall) 93 Dave Clawson(1st year at Bowling Green and 58-49 overall) 94 Steve Kragthorpe(11-13 at Louisville and 40-35 overall) 95 RonEnglish(1st year as a NCAA Head Coach) 96 Doug Marrone(1st year as NCAA Head Coach) 97 Al Golden(10-26 at Temple and overall) 98 Randy Shannon(12-13 at Miami and overall) 99. Mike Locksley(1st season as a NCAA Head Coach) 100. Dabo Swinney(4-3 at Clemson and overall) |
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04-01-2009, 12:14 PM | #2 |
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Leavitt over Schiano? /thread
Geez, how bad do those 10 coaches have to be in order to be behind Lane Kiffin with what he's done so far? And they were not nice to Randy Shannon...he's going to be a good one. Kragthorpe should probably be #99, with Kiffin stuck in the rear. |
04-01-2009, 12:15 PM | #3 |
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Oh football
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04-01-2009, 12:16 PM | #4 |
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Bill Lynch, 86? I think they left off the number in front of 86.
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04-01-2009, 12:17 PM | #5 |
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Where's Greg Robinson?
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04-01-2009, 12:17 PM | #6 |
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Top 100 based on what?
Guys you wish were in charge of your program for a year? A decade? Coaching one game you had to win? Something else? The most glaring questionables to me are having Randy Shannon eleven spots behind Gene Chizik and having David Cutcliffe any spots behind Rich Brooks. And having Dave Clawson on the list ahead of anybody.
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04-01-2009, 12:18 PM | #7 |
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How about the 20 or so coaches who didn't even make the list?
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04-01-2009, 12:21 PM | #8 |
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There can't be a criteria here. Spurrier #11? Really? If this list came out last year RichRod would've been top 10, and Dantonio one spot behind him, ahead of Les Miles no less?
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04-01-2009, 12:22 PM | #9 |
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He's now the Defensive Coordinator at Michigan.
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04-01-2009, 12:23 PM | #10 |
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04-01-2009, 12:25 PM | #11 |
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Not officially. He had Derrick Johnson, who got lined up all over the place. He was unstoppable in college.
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04-01-2009, 12:27 PM | #12 |
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I feel sorry for the people ranked below Al Groh.
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04-01-2009, 12:28 PM | #13 |
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dola: looks like a bunch of n00bs after him, actually.
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04-01-2009, 12:29 PM | #14 |
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Hmm...I'm a Penn State fan and even I think that Paterno (assuming we're ranking current ability of coaches) is pretty high.
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04-01-2009, 12:41 PM | #16 |
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By what criteria do they put Steve Sarkisian 18 spots ahead of Doug Marrone, and 21 ahead of Mike Locksley?
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04-01-2009, 12:43 PM | #17 |
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Petrino ahead of Ferentz? or Miles? Rodriguez ahead of Miles, someone that has a National Championship?
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Bobby Bowden is way too high.
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04-01-2009, 12:48 PM | #19 |
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A list on the internet? Why, it must be true!
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In this ranking we are factoring in what the coach means currently to college football. Obviously if we went by alltime resumes a guy like Bobby Bowden or Steve Spurrier would be much higher. (from the article) |
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04-01-2009, 01:01 PM | #21 |
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I actually think Mack Brown is too low...and Beamer shouldn't be in the top 10.
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OMG, if that is the criteria, then this is a huge fail. Dave Clawson ahead of anybody breathing or less than 3 days dead?
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I like seeing Jim Grobe up there that high. When he almost came to Arkansas, I seemed to be one of the few people around here that was thrilled; it was like a kick in the gut when he changed his mind.
From what I've seen so far, I would be surprised if in the end he did turn out to be better than Petrino, though. |
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Hard to compare the two when you factor in the ability to recruit to their respective schools.
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I agree, I would probably put Brown just below Tressel. I think the lack of winning the conference hurts Brown, but Texas is in it every year and they get great talent in that program. |
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I agree with that. In terms of organization, professionalism, and coaching ability though, it would appear to be pretty darn tough to beat what I've seen so far from Petrino is basically what I meant. Not saying it couldn't be done by Grobe (and from all accounts, he would give him a run for his money, which is why I was fired up about him), but it would be somewhat surprising to me. A part of me still wishes Grobe were here so I could see what he could do. |
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04-01-2009, 02:57 PM | #28 |
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This is the correct response.
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What the coach currently means to college football?
Good god, I hate to keep saying positive things about KU but ask anyone who follows the big 12 about how Bill Snyder compares right now (no history, just right now) to Mark Mangino or Gary Pinkel. According to this list he is a step up. And of course Bo Pelini who hasn't beaten either of these guys yet is higher as well. Sure... |
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"What the coach means to college football"? That's a staggeringly vague description. Butch Davis is the 5th most meaningful coach to college football? Really? Seriously? He's only been at UNC two years and was out of college coaching for a number of years before that.
Oh, and he keeps getting beat by the #54 coach on the list. How is this list even valid? |
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It's stupid because Snyder should either be in the top 10 for doing one of the best coaching jobs of all time (if you're talking about his overall body of work) or probably fairly low if you're talking about his current ability if you take into account that he's been out of coaching. Also, there's no list I would put Mangino over Pinkel in any facet save that he seems to own MU in head to head games. The only reason that even is a thought in my head is because Pinkel always comes into the game with more talent and a team that has done better and Mangino does better by comparison. Yes, he lost the big meeting two years ago but Pinkel has the better team every year yet Mangino has a winning record. (ed. note: I wanted to work in an "eating contest" joke there badly, but just couldn't pull the trigger) Again, this just goes to show that this list is just one big April Fools joke SI
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Charlie Weiss is really number #50? And in what alternate universe is this in?
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The inclusion of Al Groh on this list invalidates the list in its entirety.
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This list is so horrible it's barely worth the effort to mock. Dantonio and Pellini ahead of a guy who recently won a national title? And Pellini ahead of Pinkle and Mangino, two guys he hasn't even beat yet?
Dantonio is probably the worst. He's barely a .500 coach and he's in the top 25??? |
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Before everything is said and done, Dantonio will be in the top 25 and higher every single year. Although I wouldn't say he merits his high spot right now.
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In terms of running the entire football program, yes. You can feel free to start a poll, but I would trust what I have seen of his job performance (and pretty much everyone that is involved with the football program since he has taken over) over the opinion of people that aren't involved with him since he's been here. You may, of course, feel free to trust the side that hasn't actually seen what has been going on here since then. Please understand, I realize it was rough in Atlanta and things didn't end in an admirable fashion (that is a whole separate issue which I'm not interested in going over again). His professionalism here has been along the lines of freakishly professional, though, and that is what I'm commenting on. edit: and that is why I say it would be difficult for Jim Grobe--it would be difficult for anyone, and I think I have more respect for Jim Grobe than your average person does, I'm pretty sure. Last edited by MJ4H : 04-03-2009 at 08:14 AM. |
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I cant trust a list that doesnt have Pete Carroll #1. His list of consecutive BCS bowls is amazing
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Do be honest if the list was top 1oo recruiting coqaches yeah he should be NEAR the top and even on this list he should be in the top 10-15 coaches but come on. The guy coaches at USC it isn't like the poor bastard coaching at Boise St. evryone wants to play at USC. All he has to do is give these guys a playbook, uniform, pads, and a Song Girl and they are all ready to tear some poor bastards heads off in the PAC. |
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How'd the last coach at USC do? |
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Tim Brewster should have another 6 in front of his rank.
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For some reason I want Miami (FL) to hire Mike Leach. That could be awesome, or at least entertaining.
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I still think June Jones is too low. I think he is a top 30 head coach.
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Kirk Ferentz is in my top 10. What he is doing at Iowa is remarkable.
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June Jones is for sure a top 30 coach as is Bronco Mendenhall IMO and Chris Peterson is top 10 for what he has done at BSU, as is Harbaugh. Overrated = Davis, Petrino and Rich Rod. Last edited by BYU 14 : 12-05-2010 at 08:32 AM. |
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petrino way too low obv
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