RFL Home Games Poll

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 01:29 PM

How many home games should be the max in RFL?

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I'm thinking about a rule where 7 home games is the max each season. Anyone object? Or maybe we should make it always 6 home and 6 away, just to ensure a level playing field within the league recruiting-wise for humans? Thoughts? It'd probably help the computer recruiters out a bit too, since humans dominated the recruiting last season.

SirFozzie · 10-27-2008, 01:30 PM

No max.

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2008, 01:32 PM

6 and 6.

If you play in a place like Happy Valley or something like that, it could potentially be a HUGE advantage with the extra home game. 1 game could be the difference between a Sun bowl bid and a National Championship game bid.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 01:52 PM

I think a neat option might be 6-6 standard, but teams with a losing record the previous season get a 7th home game for a little NFL-style parity assistance.

Just thought I would throw that idea out there.

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2008, 01:55 PM

Would you like to schedule your 7th home game for the 2010 season now then?

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 02:05 PM

If you think we're going to have a losing season, you are sadly mistaken my friend.

I noticed the schedulers screwed us by having us visit Happy Valley again. So much for the concept of a home-and-home series.

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2008, 02:19 PM

I'm up for coming to Indiana, if I can switch another away game from Visiting to Home.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 02:30 PM

I'm not sure that's something we can change. I know the opponents in conference are locked, but am not sure if the home/away status is. It's probably too much work fixing that sort of thing for everyone. And you'll wax us in either venue.

Sun Tzu · 10-27-2008, 02:32 PM

Ok. I'm pretty sure you can flip/flop a conference game from home to away or vice versa, you just can't reschedule it. It's up to you man, I'm willing to travel. I wound up getting all 4 of my Human v Human games in my house anyway.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 02:41 PM

If people want to research home-vs.-away, I'd be willing to fix that for conference opponents. I just don't want to do the research on that for all RFL teams myself. I guess it might not be too hard with the info I've already collected in the 2008 summary thread.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-27-2008, 03:41 PM

I think 7 as a max is good. Does the game even let you do more than 7? I've never tried. I could be comfortable with a team having 8 home games, as long as they don't do that in back-to-back years.

Even more fair might be to limit teams to 14 home games total in two consecutive seasons. I would never suggest actually implementing this, because it's not cool to ask someone to keep track of that, but I think that would be the most fair way to go. In any case, for fairness and ease of use, I would say to cap at 7 each year.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 03:55 PM

At the moment, we have two teams with 8 home games on the schedule.

DeToxRox · 10-27-2008, 04:41 PM

I don't think you can alter conference games at all. It's set in stone I believe.

Galaxy · 10-27-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I don't think you can alter conference games at all. It's set in stone I believe.

Don't forget the non-conference rivalry games as well.

DeToxRox · 10-27-2008, 05:04 PM

I'll gladly play EMU, WKU on the road.

I don't think it matters except in human games and even then it isn't that big of a deal in my opinion.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 05:22 PM

I do think it matters to some degree. A loud stadium can rattle the opposing team, giving teams like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, USC, etc. another advantage. In contrast, it probably doesn't matter for middle of the road teams like Indiana, Minnesota, BC, etc., because their crowds never get that loud. They rank the most difficult places to play in the game. It has to mean something, right?

If nothing else, having extra home games means extra chances to have recruits visit.

DeToxRox · 10-27-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I do think it matters to some degree. A loud stadium can rattle the opposing team, giving teams like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, USC, etc. another advantage. In contrast, it probably doesn't matter for middle of the road teams like Indiana, Minnesota, BC, etc., because their crowds never get that loud. They rank the most difficult places to play in the game. It has to mean something, right?

If nothing else, having extra home games means extra chances to have recruits visit.

The visit thing is one thing I agree with but I have never noticed the other stuff make a difference in a game for me personally. But I think 8 is too much. 7 is fine.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 05:37 PM

I remember getting the squigly line stuff at ND and at Penn State last year. I wonder if higher-prestige programs are less susceptible to that happening, even with underclassmen.

DeToxRox · 10-27-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I remember getting the squigly line stuff at ND and at Penn State last year. I wonder if higher-prestige programs are less susceptible to that happening, even with underclassmen.

Everyone gets it. FR get it worse, then SO and hardly JR or SR. If your guy is struggling he might but if he plays well it goes away.

Radii · 10-27-2008, 06:02 PM

I've always felt *very* strongly that teams are more likely to have breaks go their way and to play to the max of their abilities at home. In single player I don't think I have ever lost to a lower rated team at home, with the sole exception of rivalry games, which I also very strongly feel impacts how the game plays out. On the road I have had many, many more close games against teams rated significantly lower.

Of course, I don't read the OS forums and follow things very closely, this is entirely anecdotal based on my experiences and very average stick skills.

Kodos · 10-27-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I don't think you can alter conference games at all. It's set in stone I believe.

Just verified this to be true. Conference games can't be altered at all.

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10-27-2008, 01:30 PM	#2
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	No max. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-27-2008, 01:32 PM	#3
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	6 and 6. If you play in a place like Happy Valley or something like that, it could potentially be a HUGE advantage with the extra home game. 1 game could be the difference between a Sun bowl bid and a National Championship game bid. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

10-27-2008, 01:52 PM	#4
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think a neat option might be 6-6 standard, but teams with a losing record the previous season get a 7th home game for a little NFL-style parity assistance. Just thought I would throw that idea out there. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-27-2008, 01:55 PM	#5
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Would you like to schedule your 7th home game for the 2010 season now then? __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

10-27-2008, 02:05 PM	#6
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	If you think we're going to have a losing season, you are sadly mistaken my friend. I noticed the schedulers screwed us by having us visit Happy Valley again. So much for the concept of a home-and-home series. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-27-2008, 02:19 PM	#7
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I'm up for coming to Indiana, if I can switch another away game from Visiting to Home. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

10-27-2008, 02:30 PM	#8
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I'm not sure that's something we can change. I know the opponents in conference are locked, but am not sure if the home/away status is. It's probably too much work fixing that sort of thing for everyone. And you'll wax us in either venue. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-27-2008, 02:32 PM	#9
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Ok. I'm pretty sure you can flip/flop a conference game from home to away or vice versa, you just can't reschedule it. It's up to you man, I'm willing to travel. I wound up getting all 4 of my Human v Human games in my house anyway. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

10-27-2008, 02:41 PM	#10
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	If people want to research home-vs.-away, I'd be willing to fix that for conference opponents. I just don't want to do the research on that for all RFL teams myself. I guess it might not be too hard with the info I've already collected in the 2008 summary thread. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-27-2008, 03:41 PM	#11
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I think 7 as a max is good. Does the game even let you do more than 7? I've never tried. I could be comfortable with a team having 8 home games, as long as they don't do that in back-to-back years. Even more fair might be to limit teams to 14 home games total in two consecutive seasons. I would never suggest actually implementing this, because it's not cool to ask someone to keep track of that, but I think that would be the most fair way to go. In any case, for fairness and ease of use, I would say to cap at 7 each year. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-27-2008, 03:55 PM	#12
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	At the moment, we have two teams with 8 home games on the schedule. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 10-27-2008 at 03:56 PM.

10-27-2008, 04:41 PM	#13
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I don't think you can alter conference games at all. It's set in stone I believe.

10-27-2008, 05:04 PM	#15
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I'll gladly play EMU, WKU on the road. I don't think it matters except in human games and even then it isn't that big of a deal in my opinion.

10-27-2008, 05:22 PM	#16
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I do think it matters to some degree. A loud stadium can rattle the opposing team, giving teams like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, USC, etc. another advantage. In contrast, it probably doesn't matter for middle of the road teams like Indiana, Minnesota, BC, etc., because their crowds never get that loud. They rank the most difficult places to play in the game. It has to mean something, right? If nothing else, having extra home games means extra chances to have recruits visit. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 10-27-2008 at 05:28 PM.

10-27-2008, 05:37 PM	#18
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I remember getting the squigly line stuff at ND and at Penn State last year. I wonder if higher-prestige programs are less susceptible to that happening, even with underclassmen. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-27-2008, 06:02 PM	#20
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I've always felt very strongly that teams are more likely to have breaks go their way and to play to the max of their abilities at home. In single player I don't think I have ever lost to a lower rated team at home, with the sole exception of rivalry games, which I also very strongly feel impacts how the game plays out. On the road I have had many, many more close games against teams rated significantly lower. Of course, I don't read the OS forums and follow things very closely, this is entirely anecdotal based on my experiences and very average stick skills.

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