big Lotto Jackpots

stevew · 05-27-2009, 11:12 AM

Anyone else in?

Noop · 05-27-2009, 11:13 AM

Oh I am in.

*Edit* I have two quick picks and I am going to play two of my own numbers for a total of a 4 dollar play. Hmm might throw in another buck and make it a clean 5.

Flasch186 · 05-27-2009, 11:14 AM

yeah Ill buy some....

Comey · 05-27-2009, 11:15 AM

PackerFanatic · 05-27-2009, 11:20 AM

I probably will buy some.

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 11:24 AM

Go ahead! THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY! HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!

Julio Riddols · 05-27-2009, 11:27 AM

If I were to buy a ticket, I would play 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.

TCY Junkie · 05-27-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

If I were to buy a ticket, I would play 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42.

Not to be cheap but I want to win it and not spend too much. What would your mega ball be?

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 11:47 AM

I like to blow cashier's minds and play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Mustang · 05-27-2009, 11:52 AM

If I don't win tonight, should I double the number of tickets I buy next week until I do win?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-27-2009, 11:52 AM

I've bought in for the last 5-6 drawings. I think I'm due.

Tasan · 05-27-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

If I don't win tonight, should I double the number of tickets I buy next week until I do win?

Yes that strategy is guaranteed to win. All the time. Proven by board members.

Lathum · 05-27-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I like to blow cashier's minds and play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

thats just dumb, the odds of those numbers coming up has to be the longest shot of all

Lathum · 05-27-2009, 01:25 PM

is the drawing tonight?

SackAttack · 05-27-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

thats just dumb, the odds of those numbers coming up has to be the longest shot of all

Well, technically speaking, the odds of any seven numbers coming up sequentially would be the longest shot of all.

That, actually...I wonder how that would affect the likelihood of people playing Powerball or other lottery-style games, if the numbers you picked had to be sequential rather than just five (or six) plus the 'mega' number.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-27-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

is the drawing tonight?

Yes, every Wednesday and Saturday.

Racer · 05-27-2009, 01:48 PM

I rarely buy a lottery ticket but probably will since the pot is so large.

QuikSand · 05-27-2009, 01:57 PM

I'll set aside the first exchange, assuming it was just for sport.

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

That, actually...I wonder how that would affect the likelihood of people playing Powerball or other lottery-style games, if the numbers you picked had to be sequential rather than just five (or six) plus the 'mega' number.

Not sure what you could possibly mean here. If you forced every ticket to include a simple sequential series of numbers, don't you completely change the nature of the game? Would you allow the winning numbers to come from the traditional method, and just ensure that very nearly every time nobody would hit the winning series? What would be the point of that?

Subby · 05-27-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

thats just dumb

SackAttack · 05-27-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

I'll set aside the first exchange, assuming it was just for sport.

Not sure what you could possibly mean here. If you forced every ticket to include a simple sequential series of numbers, don't you completely change the nature of the game? Would you allow the winning numbers to come from the traditional method, and just ensure that very nearly every time nobody would hit the winning series? What would be the point of that?

Oh, you absolutely would change the nature of the game.

What I was wondering is, your 'regular' lottery players tend to come from two groups of people - the ones who toss a few bucks in each week for shits and giggles, and the ones who see the lottery jackpot as the ladder up and out. The ones so convinced they're going to win that they bet the rent money or what-have-you on Powerball tickets.

If you change the nature of the jackpot requirements, does that change the core players' desire to continue playing, or are those 'hooked fish' anyway?

Not seriously suggesting that they change the game, just wondering - if they DID change it in that way, how would it affect participation? That's all.

QuikSand · 05-27-2009, 02:02 PM

I have pretty much no idea what you're even talking about, sorry. I simply can't hold up my end of the conversation there.

Passacaglia · 05-27-2009, 02:07 PM

You would think participation would necessarily go down -- the odds of winning remain the same, but now you're looking at sharing the prize with 1/48th or whatever of the playing population if you do win. However, since you would go so long (i.e. damn near forever) with no winner, the prize amount could become large enough to balance that out. While I pretty much think that you'd be discouraging a lot of people with such a high probability of not even being able to win if only they had picked the right numbers, you might get a small bump of people buying all of the combinations they're able to, since there would not be many.

digamma · 05-27-2009, 02:10 PM

I'm willing to bet a significant number of people who play the lottery on a regular basis don't know there is a difference between the numbers being picked sequentially or not and, more importantly for the purposes of your question (if I am indeed following correctly), don't care. They don't call it a stupid man's tax for nothing.

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

thats just dumb, the odds of those numbers coming up has to be the longest shot of all

My sequential numbers are just as likely to win as any other set of numbers. It just illustrates how unlikely any given set of numbers is to win. You look at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and realize that would practically never happen. But any other set of numbers is just as unlikely to win.

Passacaglia · 05-27-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

I'm willing to bet a significant number of people who play the lottery on a regular basis don't know there is a difference between the numbers being picked sequentially or not and, more importantly for the purposes of your question (if I am indeed following correctly), don't care. They don't call it a stupid man's tax for nothing.

They may not know the difference, but wouldn't you think that if something non-sequential comes up, most of them are going to realize they had no chance to win with that outcome? I guess I'm thinking of a situation where the system was changed to something like this -- maybe if it had always been this way, you could be right.

QuikSand · 05-27-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

My sequential numbers are just as likely to win as any other set of numbers. It just illustrates how unlikely any given set of numbers is to win.

See, I just assumed he was making a joke. I mean, come on.

There actually is probably a lower EV of submitting a ticket with any sort of rationality to it, due to the increased likelihood of duplicating someone else's ticket and being forced to share the winnings. maybe the same with using numerals 31 and under, for obvious reasons. A side topic, I think we've explored it here before some time ago.

But I can't imagine anyone feeling confident enough in the thinking that one series or numbers is actually less likely than any other to be willing to post as much. Honestly now.

digamma · 05-27-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

They may not know the difference, but wouldn't you think that if something non-sequential comes up, most of them are going to realize they had no chance to win with that outcome? I guess I'm thinking of a situation where the system was changed to something like this -- maybe if it had always been this way, you could be right.

I think you and Sack are talking about two different things. If I'm reading his correctly, you have to pick the sequence or order correctly, but it doesn't have to be a straight numerical sequence (which is how I read yours).

Passacaglia · 05-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

I think you and Sack are talking about two different things. If I'm reading his correctly, you have to pick the sequence or order correctly, but it doesn't have to be a straight numerical sequence (which is how I read yours).

Oh! I think you're right. Then I agree with you even more -- most lottery players probably don't care how astronomical the odds are, as long as they have a chance. Although the fact that there would be much fewer stories of winners floating around might discourage a few potential players.

Izulde · 05-27-2009, 02:29 PM

I'll probably buy a ticket or two.

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 02:33 PM

One could actually make an argument that picking 1 through 7 might be very slightly more likely to win than other sequences, if you assumed the balls all weighed the same without ink. The single digit balls could be slightly lighter due to less ink, and thus be very slightly more likely to pop up and be selected.

If you really wanted to argue something stupid.

QuikSand · 05-27-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

If you really wanted to argue something stupid.

Hey, when in Rome...

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 02:39 PM

Maybe he'd feel better if I listed them out of order so it seemed more random.

Lathum · 05-27-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Well, technically speaking, the odds of any seven numbers coming up sequentially would be the longest shot of all.

That, actually...I wonder how that would affect the likelihood of people playing Powerball or other lottery-style games, if the numbers you picked had to be sequential rather than just five (or six) plus the 'mega' number.

could you seriously not tell I was kidding?

Lathum · 05-27-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

My sequential numbers are just as likely to win as any other set of numbers. It just illustrates how unlikely any given set of numbers is to win. You look at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and realize that would practically never happen. But any other set of numbers is just as unlikely to win.

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

See, I just assumed he was making a joke. I mean, come on.

.

exactly

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

maybe the same with using numerals 31 and under, for obvious reasons.

As a matter of trivia, I won a number of years ago using my birthday numbers on a ticket that I didn't buy. I had a friend who was a lottery nut, and he bought me a Pick 3 ticket (or something like that) for my birthday using the date for the numbers. I wasn't going to bother even checking to see if I'd won, but he left me a message on my machine a couple days later telling me not to throw the ticket away because the numbers hit. It was for $300 or so, which was pretty nice for a guy who doesn't really buy lottery tickets except for very rare occasions when I cave in for the small entertainment value that daydreaming about winning provides.

So, I'm one of the few people out there who is actually somewhat up on the lottery moneywise. At my current rate of buying tickets once in a blue moon, I'll probably end up breaking even, if I live another 50 years or so.

Kodos · 05-27-2009, 03:15 PM

FWIW, it didn't seem to me that you were joking. Glad to find out you were.

Lathum · 05-27-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

FWIW, it didn't seem to me that you were joking. Glad to find out you were.

Jeez, I guess I need to use more smileys

Draft Dodger · 05-27-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Hey, when in Rome...

in that case...

I don't ever play lotteries. also, I have a red bicycle.

Lorena · 05-27-2009, 04:27 PM

This post is worth one million bucks.

WVUFAN · 05-27-2009, 08:46 PM

I've decided that if I win the Powerball tonight, I'll host a game of Let's Make a Deal on FOFC.

stevew · 05-27-2009, 09:45 PM

Bridging the gap from "I'm rich beeyotch" to becoming wealthy would be a nice project for the next 20 or so years.

stevew · 05-27-2009, 09:50 PM

And to simplify the difference

Rich-has season tickets for some of the best seats in the arena
Wealthy-owns the fuckin team.

flere-imsaho · 05-28-2009, 11:09 AM

Rich: You're able to rent property in Manhattan.
Wealthy: You're able to own property in Manhattan.

Kodos · 05-28-2009, 11:11 AM

Rich: You eat fresh corn on the cob year round.
Wealthy: You eat fresh mini corn on the cob appetizers year round.

flere-imsaho · 05-28-2009, 11:20 AM

So, did Lathum buy a ticket yet?

Doug5984 · 05-28-2009, 11:27 AM

damn someone won it in South Dakota. 1 person. 222 million in South Dakota...

And I was feeling lucky...

Passacaglia · 05-28-2009, 11:29 AM

Doesn't South Dakota have no income tax?

Flasch186 · 05-28-2009, 11:45 AM

<----nope

Kodos · 05-28-2009, 11:47 AM

Were the winning numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... 8?

PackerFanatic · 05-28-2009, 12:07 PM

You know, there are only 6 numbers (5 white and the powerball)

05-27-2009, 11:13 AM	#2
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Oh I am in. Edit I have two quick picks and I am going to play two of my own numbers for a total of a 4 dollar play. Hmm might throw in another buck and make it a clean 5. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater. Last edited by Noop : 05-27-2009 at 11:15 AM.

05-27-2009, 11:14 AM	#3
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	yeah Ill buy some.... __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

05-27-2009, 11:15 AM	#4
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	Yup. __________________

05-27-2009, 11:20 AM	#5
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I probably will buy some. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

05-27-2009, 11:24 AM	#6
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Go ahead! THROW YOUR MONEY AWAY! HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-27-2009, 11:27 AM	#7
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	If I were to buy a ticket, I would play 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

05-27-2009, 11:47 AM	#9
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I like to blow cashier's minds and play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-27-2009, 11:52 AM	#10
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	If I don't win tonight, should I double the number of tickets I buy next week until I do win? __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

05-27-2009, 11:52 AM	#11
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I've bought in for the last 5-6 drawings. I think I'm due.

05-27-2009, 01:25 PM	#14
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	is the drawing tonight?

05-27-2009, 01:48 PM	#17
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I rarely buy a lottery ticket but probably will since the pot is so large.

05-27-2009, 02:02 PM	#21
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I have pretty much no idea what you're even talking about, sorry. I simply can't hold up my end of the conversation there.

05-27-2009, 02:07 PM	#22
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	You would think participation would necessarily go down -- the odds of winning remain the same, but now you're looking at sharing the prize with 1/48th or whatever of the playing population if you do win. However, since you would go so long (i.e. damn near forever) with no winner, the prize amount could become large enough to balance that out. While I pretty much think that you'd be discouraging a lot of people with such a high probability of not even being able to win if only they had picked the right numbers, you might get a small bump of people buying all of the combinations they're able to, since there would not be many.

05-27-2009, 02:10 PM	#23
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I'm willing to bet a significant number of people who play the lottery on a regular basis don't know there is a difference between the numbers being picked sequentially or not and, more importantly for the purposes of your question (if I am indeed following correctly), don't care. They don't call it a stupid man's tax for nothing.

05-27-2009, 02:29 PM	#29
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I'll probably buy a ticket or two. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-27-2009, 02:33 PM	#30
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	One could actually make an argument that picking 1 through 7 might be very slightly more likely to win than other sequences, if you assumed the balls all weighed the same without ink. The single digit balls could be slightly lighter due to less ink, and thus be very slightly more likely to pop up and be selected. If you really wanted to argue something stupid. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 05-27-2009 at 02:33 PM.

05-27-2009, 02:39 PM	#32
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Maybe he'd feel better if I listed them out of order so it seemed more random. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-27-2009, 03:15 PM	#36
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	FWIW, it didn't seem to me that you were joking. Glad to find out you were. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 05-27-2009 at 03:16 PM.

05-27-2009, 04:27 PM	#39
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	This post is worth one million bucks.

05-27-2009, 08:46 PM	#40
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	I've decided that if I win the Powerball tonight, I'll host a game of Let's Make a Deal on FOFC. __________________

05-27-2009, 09:45 PM	#41
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Bridging the gap from "I'm rich beeyotch" to becoming wealthy would be a nice project for the next 20 or so years.

05-27-2009, 09:50 PM	#42
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	And to simplify the difference Rich-has season tickets for some of the best seats in the arena Wealthy-owns the fuckin team.

05-28-2009, 11:09 AM	#43
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Rich: You're able to rent property in Manhattan. Wealthy: You're able to own property in Manhattan.

05-28-2009, 11:11 AM	#44
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Rich: You eat fresh corn on the cob year round. Wealthy: You eat fresh mini corn on the cob appetizers year round. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-28-2009, 11:20 AM	#45
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	So, did Lathum buy a ticket yet?

05-28-2009, 11:27 AM	#46
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	damn someone won it in South Dakota. 1 person. 222 million in South Dakota... And I was feeling lucky...

05-28-2009, 11:29 AM	#47
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Doesn't South Dakota have no income tax?

05-28-2009, 11:45 AM	#48
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	<----nope __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

05-28-2009, 11:47 AM	#49
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Were the winning numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... 8? __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

05-28-2009, 12:07 PM	#50
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	You know, there are only 6 numbers (5 white and the powerball) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

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