Tipping

Galaxy · 10-08-2009, 10:09 PM

I came across this article today and I found it rather interesting.

The rude new tip-jar economy

Your thoughts?

Lathum · 10-08-2009, 10:09 PM

been a while since we had one of these.

Big Fo · 10-08-2009, 10:17 PM

I tip waiters and delivery people but I feel there is no reason to tip at pick-up counters where someone literally reaches over two feet to grab my order and hands it to me, jar or no jar. I've never seen a jar at fast food restaurants, that's a freaking joke imo.

I do tip the barber if I think my haircut looks good though.

terpkristin · 10-08-2009, 10:18 PM

I tip delivery people. And the person who cuts my hair.

And I'm drunkg.

t/k

Autumn · 10-08-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin

I tip delivery people. And the person who cuts my hair.

And I'm drunkg.

t/k

I hope you tip bartenders too.

stevew · 10-08-2009, 10:41 PM

I'm comfortable going 20 percent. Although the nicest place we go is applebees.

Joints that don't let you tip on a card piss me off. And I end up stiffing the waiter in those situations.

stevew · 10-08-2009, 10:52 PM

I always go 5 extra on a 15 dollar haircut. If it looks good.

stevew · 10-08-2009, 10:57 PM

In general I hate places that don't take cards. There's a really good pizza shop in the mall. But since they don't take cards I rarely go. So instead of them making 600 bucks off me a year they get less than 50 probably.

Raise your prices a bit to compensate for processing fees.

Coffee Warlord · 10-08-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I always go 5 extra on a 15 dollar haircut. If it looks good.

Ditto.

Here's a good one, though, that I've heard go both ways.

Tip on carry-out orders at restaurants? (not fast food type places, but sit-down eateries that also do carry out)

bhlloy · 10-08-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Ditto.

Here's a good one, though, that I've heard go both ways.

Tip on carry-out orders at restaurants? (not fast food type places, but sit-down eateries that also do carry out)

Ditto ditto. Stiffing somebody who controls how your hair looks is really stupid IMO if you are planning on going back there. And in the large scheme of things, if they do a good job it's $5 every month or so.

I would love to know the answer to the second question. I usually tip a couple of bucks and round up to the next dollar, but I have no idea if it's expected or if I just look like a moron for doing it.

stevew · 10-08-2009, 11:25 PM

Never tip on carryout to go. Unless your order is way too over the top specific.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-08-2009, 11:41 PM

I never tip carry out either. Delivery, most definitely.

If there is one of those tip jars and I have change left over (so long as it's more than like 10 cents), I will almost always put the change into the jar. I do it at the local burrito place, Salad Creations, Starbucks/Carribou, etc.

Izulde · 10-08-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

I tip waiters and delivery people but I feel there is no reason to tip at pick-up counters where someone literally reaches over two feet to grab my order and hands it to me, jar or no jar. I've never seen a jar at fast food restaurants, that's a freaking joke imo.

I do tip the barber if I think my haircut looks good though.

This. The one exception to the pick-up counter rule is this small coffee place at the mall when I worked at Victoria's Secret. I know their profit margins are pretty damned slim and the mall management are jackasses who raise the rent at every little excuse.

And a mall cop also stole some of their doughnuts one night after closing time. So yeah, I usually just dumped my coins in their tip jar. Always got great service, too, so I didn't mind.

I tip bartenders a buck every other drink.

Sun Tzu · 10-08-2009, 11:47 PM

Resevoir Dogs.

Greyroofoo · 10-09-2009, 12:27 AM

I only tip strippers

Warhammer · 10-09-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I only tip strippers

My card never seems to go through when I use it though.

JediKooter · 10-09-2009, 04:22 AM

I'm a pretty good tipper, but, I can't ever recall seeing a tip jar at fast food place.

I usually try and tip at least 20% if the service met my expectations, more if it went beyond, less if you can't refill my drink or check back and see if I need anything.

Z²+ · 10-09-2009, 04:24 AM

At the casino where I work, management recently changed the employee parking situation -- whereas employees previously could park in a lot very near to the employee entrance, all employees must now park in a lot on the complete other side of the property, and ride an "employee shuttle" back and forth between the parking lot and the employee entrance. What bothers me the most, however, is that the shuttle driver has a tip basket sitting right next to the door. If I was a patron, I could understand tipping the shuttle driver for taking me to the entrance. However, as an employee, where I have no other option other than to park in the employee lot and ride the shuttle, I feel it is inappropriate for the driver to have a tip basket so prominently displayed. The driver is nice enough, and I don't begrudge him a chance to make a decent living, and I feel guilty every time I get off the shuttle twice each day without tipping, but I just don't think this is a situation where I should have to tip. Am I being stingy, or do you think I have a valid point?

JediKooter · 10-09-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Z²+

At the casino where I work, management recently changed the employee parking situation -- whereas employees previously could park in a lot very near to the employee entrance, all employees must now park in a lot on the complete other side of the property, and ride an "employee shuttle" back and forth between the parking lot and the employee entrance. What bothers me the most, however, is that the shuttle driver has a tip basket sitting right next to the door. If I was a patron, I could understand tipping the shuttle driver for taking me to the entrance. However, as an employee, where I have no other option other than to park in the employee lot and ride the shuttle, I feel it is inappropriate for the driver to have a tip basket so prominently displayed. The driver is nice enough, and I don't begrudge him a chance to make a decent living, and I feel guilty every time I get off the shuttle twice each day without tipping, but I just don't think this is a situation where I should have to tip. Am I being stingy, or do you think I have a valid point?

You have a valid point. It would be like having to tip the person that cleans the bathrooms at work...I appreciate it, but, we both work for the same company.

Karlifornia · 10-09-2009, 05:41 AM

As far as take out goes, if you go into a place a lot and want to get special treatment your take-out order, then you might wanna tip. It certainly doesn't guarantee anything, but it's never detrimental. If you go into a place once a year, then nobody's gonna remember you unless you starting blowing yourself in front of the counter. If you go to a place once a week for a good while, tipping, no matter how small, will get the staff to remember you.

And who is this stupid old bitch whining about tip jars? Who gives a fuck? If I feel like tipping, I'll tip. Just because there's a tip jar there doesn't mean I feel forced to tip. It may remind me to tip if I feel satisfied with the transaction, but it's not like I see the tip jar and think "Damn...not left with much choice here...oh well..I guess I can pass on paying that light bill this month. The jar was there. I gotta respect the presence of the jar!"

Butter · 10-09-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Z²+

Am I being stingy, or do you think I have a valid point?

You have a valid point, but if the guy is also shuttling customers to and fro, then I can see the reason for the jar as well. I wouldn't sweat it at all.

Samdari · 10-09-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Z²+

At the casino where I work, management recently changed the employee parking situation -- whereas employees previously could park in a lot very near to the employee entrance, all employees must now park in a lot on the complete other side of the property, and ride an "employee shuttle" back and forth between the parking lot and the employee entrance. What bothers me the most, however, is that the shuttle driver has a tip basket sitting right next to the door. If I was a patron, I could understand tipping the shuttle driver for taking me to the entrance. However, as an employee, where I have no other option other than to park in the employee lot and ride the shuttle, I feel it is inappropriate for the driver to have a tip basket so prominently displayed. The driver is nice enough, and I don't begrudge him a chance to make a decent living, and I feel guilty every time I get off the shuttle twice each day without tipping, but I just don't think this is a situation where I should have to tip. Am I being stingy, or do you think I have a valid point?

It's absurd. I am a pretty generous tipper, especially at the low priced family restaurants I now frequent. I also believe that working entails some expenses - it costs some money to work. But, the fact that its an employee of the same company asking you to tip? No, no, no, no, no. That just feels wrong.

One area I am iffy on tips is the small, family owned barbershop. Do you tip the person who cuts your hair, if you know that is the owner?

Logan · 10-09-2009, 08:23 AM

If you're out to lunch and have separate checks, be sure to coordinate the tip or hilarity will ensue.

fantom1979 · 10-09-2009, 10:43 AM

My dad won't tip a pizza delivery guy if the pizza place charges a delivery fee. Sucks for the driver, but I can somewhat understand his point. He has already paid for the service. I personally tip those guys.

Kodos · 10-09-2009, 10:47 AM

I like to put a stack of ones on the corner of the table. Every time the waitress does something that pleases me, I add a dollar to the stack. Every time she upsets me, I remove a dollar.

Lathum · 10-09-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

You have a valid point, but if the guy is also shuttling customers to and fro, then I can see the reason for the jar as well. I wouldn't sweat it at all.

I think it depends also on what breakdown of his salary is tips.

If it is considered a tipped position like a server or bartender than I think it is appropriate to tip.

Passacaglia · 10-09-2009, 10:54 AM

Has anyone else noticed that a lot of people talk about getting massages more? Back in the day, either not as many people got them, or they didn't want to talk about how they spent so much money on one, but now it's seeming fairly common.

Kodos · 10-09-2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

I like to put a stack of ones on the corner of the table. Every time the waitress does something that pleases me, I add a dollar to the stack. Every time she upsets me, I remove a dollar.

Here's what this was referencing:

PilotMan · 10-09-2009, 11:10 AM

How would you feel if you had to tip the pilot before you got on the airplane?

Some days I wish.

Given that our hotel van drivers, who we are required to ride with to and from the hotel, expect 1 dollar tips per person, per leg. Why not us? That can be in the 30-40 dollar expense per month. Nah, it's my job, if they want a tip, call the company. I have to be here, you have to take me, no other way around it. I have kids to feed.

Lathum · 10-09-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

How would you feel if you had to tip the pilot before you got on the airplane?

Some days I wish.

Given that our hotel van drivers, who we are required to ride with to and from the hotel, expect 1 dollar tips per person, per leg. Why not us? That can be in the 30-40 dollar expense per month. Nah, it's my job, if they want a tip, call the company. I have to be here, you have to take me, no other way around it. I have kids to feed.

Now that is fine if tips aren't considered part of their salary, but if they make $4.00 an hour plus tips I think it is fine for them to have a tip cup out.

Dodgerchick · 10-09-2009, 11:17 AM

We've seen tip jars at drive-thrus and McDonalds.

Lathum · 10-09-2009, 11:20 AM

Big Stein wants a calzone!

RomaGoth · 10-09-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Resevoir Dogs.

This didn't get enough love imo.

Celeval · 10-09-2009, 11:30 AM

I'll tip for takeout at places that aren't all take-out - going up to a bar at a sitdown place for a togo order. Generally we tip well, particularly if we're out with our kid and the wait staff goes out of their way for her.

Toddzilla · 10-09-2009, 11:32 AM

I am NOT watching a video called "Dick Tips"

MJ4H · 10-09-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

My card never seems to go through when I use it though.

keep swiping

DanGarion · 10-09-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

We've seen tip jars at drive-thrus and McDonalds.

Wow I would think that is a big no no with corporate McDonald's probably would be enforced down to the franchisees... Interesting...

gkb · 10-09-2009, 03:52 PM

Dwight's take on tipping.

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Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.

Ryan S · 10-09-2009, 04:16 PM

I am glad that we don't have a tipping Culture in the UK.

I usually let taxi drivers keep the change, and tip around 10% for service in restaurants or takeaway deliveries, but I am not afraid to leave nothing for bad service. (The minimum wage for UK waiter staff is much higher than the US minimum)

If the service has been exceptional, or if my group has been difficult (drunk!) I will probably give a larger tip.

Mustang · 10-09-2009, 05:02 PM

I tip the person that cuts my hair because she is hot.

I don't know if she does a good job or not.

molson · 10-09-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

It certainly doesn't guarantee anything, but it's never detrimental. If you go into a place once a year, then nobody's gonna remember you unless you starting blowing yourself in front of the counter.

This is why I can never go back to the Ruby Tuesday in Orlando.

I. J. Reilly · 10-09-2009, 05:33 PM

So I eat lunch at a deli about once a month and I have no idea if I should tip or not. You order at the counter, they give you a number to take to your table, bring out your food, and then have a guy roaming the dining room busing tables when you’re finished. As best I can tell no one else is leaving a tip on the table and there is no jar at the counter. So what does FOFC think?

Izulde · 10-09-2009, 07:10 PM

If they bus the tables and it's just me, I leave a buck.

Groups of 2-5 people, leave 2 bucks.

stevew · 10-10-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

I tip the person that cuts my hair because she is hot.

I don't know if she does a good job or not.

Does she do the "Boobs around your neck thing?"

Or are you just hoping to see the "top of the mountain" one day.

MrBug708 · 10-10-2009, 02:53 AM

I dont at Souplantation. I also don't at Jamba Juice or Starbucks

stevew · 10-10-2009, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Here's what this was referencing:

Yeah, I got the reference. I joke about doing that when we go out.

Greyroofoo · 10-10-2009, 03:02 AM

This thread doesn't deserve a tip

Greyroofoo · 10-10-2009, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin

I tip delivery people. And the person who cuts my hair.

And I'm drunkg.

t/k

i luv u

Glengoyne · 10-10-2009, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

I like to put a stack of ones on the corner of the table. Every time the waitress does something that pleases me, I add a dollar to the stack. Every time she upsets me, I remove a dollar.

I think that makes more sense than tucking them in her underwear. It would be hard to get her to cough those back up.

Glengoyne · 10-10-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

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Joints that don't let you tip on a card piss me off. And I end up stiffing the waiter in those situations.

I've never run into that. As a rule, I prefer to tip with cash rather than a card. That is for the benefit of the server. I can tip generously, and they are only taxed a percentage of my bill. At least that is how an ex-waiter friend of mine described it to me.

Now if you FORCE me to tip off of my card. Well you're just pissing me off, and that doesn't bode well for receiving a tip.

10-08-2009, 10:18 PM	#4
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I tip delivery people. And the person who cuts my hair. And I'm drunkg. t/k __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

10-08-2009, 11:41 PM	#12
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I never tip carry out either. Delivery, most definitely. If there is one of those tip jars and I have change left over (so long as it's more than like 10 cents), I will almost always put the change into the jar. I do it at the local burrito place, Salad Creations, Starbucks/Carribou, etc. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-08-2009, 11:47 PM	#14
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Resevoir Dogs. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

10-09-2009, 04:22 AM	#17
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I'm a pretty good tipper, but, I can't ever recall seeing a tip jar at fast food place. I usually try and tip at least 20% if the service met my expectations, more if it went beyond, less if you can't refill my drink or check back and see if I need anything. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-09-2009, 04:24 AM	#18
Z²+ High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh	At the casino where I work, management recently changed the employee parking situation -- whereas employees previously could park in a lot very near to the employee entrance, all employees must now park in a lot on the complete other side of the property, and ride an "employee shuttle" back and forth between the parking lot and the employee entrance. What bothers me the most, however, is that the shuttle driver has a tip basket sitting right next to the door. If I was a patron, I could understand tipping the shuttle driver for taking me to the entrance. However, as an employee, where I have no other option other than to park in the employee lot and ride the shuttle, I feel it is inappropriate for the driver to have a tip basket so prominently displayed. The driver is nice enough, and I don't begrudge him a chance to make a decent living, and I feel guilty every time I get off the shuttle twice each day without tipping, but I just don't think this is a situation where I should have to tip. Am I being stingy, or do you think I have a valid point? __________________ Chicks dig exponents P-I-T-T Let's go Pitt!

10-08-2009, 10:09 PM	#2
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	been a while since we had one of these.

10-08-2009, 10:17 PM	#3
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I tip waiters and delivery people but I feel there is no reason to tip at pick-up counters where someone literally reaches over two feet to grab my order and hands it to me, jar or no jar. I've never seen a jar at fast food restaurants, that's a freaking joke imo. I do tip the barber if I think my haircut looks good though.

10-08-2009, 10:41 PM	#6
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm comfortable going 20 percent. Although the nicest place we go is applebees. Joints that don't let you tip on a card piss me off. And I end up stiffing the waiter in those situations.

10-08-2009, 10:52 PM	#7
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I always go 5 extra on a 15 dollar haircut. If it looks good.

10-08-2009, 10:57 PM	#8
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	In general I hate places that don't take cards. There's a really good pizza shop in the mall. But since they don't take cards I rarely go. So instead of them making 600 bucks off me a year they get less than 50 probably. Raise your prices a bit to compensate for processing fees.

10-08-2009, 11:25 PM	#11
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Never tip on carryout to go. Unless your order is way too over the top specific.

10-09-2009, 12:27 AM	#15
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I only tip strippers

10-09-2009, 05:41 AM	#20
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	As far as take out goes, if you go into a place a lot and want to get special treatment your take-out order, then you might wanna tip. It certainly doesn't guarantee anything, but it's never detrimental. If you go into a place once a year, then nobody's gonna remember you unless you starting blowing yourself in front of the counter. If you go to a place once a week for a good while, tipping, no matter how small, will get the staff to remember you. And who is this stupid old bitch whining about tip jars? Who gives a fuck? If I feel like tipping, I'll tip. Just because there's a tip jar there doesn't mean I feel forced to tip. It may remind me to tip if I feel satisfied with the transaction, but it's not like I see the tip jar and think "Damn...not left with much choice here...oh well..I guess I can pass on paying that light bill this month. The jar was there. I gotta respect the presence of the jar!" __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com Last edited by Karlifornia : 10-09-2009 at 05:43 AM.

10-09-2009, 08:23 AM	#23
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	If you're out to lunch and have separate checks, be sure to coordinate the tip or hilarity will ensue.

10-09-2009, 10:43 AM	#24
fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	My dad won't tip a pizza delivery guy if the pizza place charges a delivery fee. Sucks for the driver, but I can somewhat understand his point. He has already paid for the service. I personally tip those guys.

10-09-2009, 10:47 AM	#25
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I like to put a stack of ones on the corner of the table. Every time the waitress does something that pleases me, I add a dollar to the stack. Every time she upsets me, I remove a dollar. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-09-2009, 10:54 AM	#27
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Has anyone else noticed that a lot of people talk about getting massages more? Back in the day, either not as many people got them, or they didn't want to talk about how they spent so much money on one, but now it's seeming fairly common.

10-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#29
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	How would you feel if you had to tip the pilot *before* you got on the airplane? Some days I wish. Given that our hotel van drivers, who we are required to ride with to and from the hotel, expect 1 dollar tips per person, per leg. Why not us? That can be in the 30-40 dollar expense per month. Nah, it's my job, if they want a tip, call the company. I have to be here, you have to take me, no other way around it. I have kids to feed. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-09-2009, 11:17 AM	#31
Dodgerchick College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX	We've seen tip jars at drive-thrus and McDonalds. __________________ DON'T ITCH THAT NOSE! A Meditation Dynasty

10-09-2009, 11:20 AM	#32
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Big Stein wants a calzone! Last edited by Lathum : 10-09-2009 at 11:20 AM.

10-09-2009, 11:30 AM	#34
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	I'll tip for takeout at places that aren't all take-out - going up to a bar at a sitdown place for a togo order. Generally we tip well, particularly if we're out with our kid and the wait staff goes out of their way for her.

10-09-2009, 11:32 AM	#35
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I am NOT watching a video called "Dick Tips"

10-09-2009, 04:16 PM	#39
Ryan S Quarterback Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, England	I am glad that we don't have a tipping Culture in the UK. I usually let taxi drivers keep the change, and tip around 10% for service in restaurants or takeaway deliveries, but I am not afraid to leave nothing for bad service. (The minimum wage for UK waiter staff is much higher than the US minimum) If the service has been exceptional, or if my group has been difficult (drunk!) I will probably give a larger tip.

10-09-2009, 05:02 PM	#40
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I tip the person that cuts my hair because she is hot. I don't know if she does a good job or not. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

10-09-2009, 05:33 PM	#42
I. J. Reilly College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: An Oregonian deep in the heart of Texas.	So I eat lunch at a deli about once a month and I have no idea if I should tip or not. You order at the counter, they give you a number to take to your table, bring out your food, and then have a guy roaming the dining room busing tables when you’re finished. As best I can tell no one else is leaving a tip on the table and there is no jar at the counter. So what does FOFC think?

10-09-2009, 07:10 PM	#43
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	If they bus the tables and it's just me, I leave a buck. Groups of 2-5 people, leave 2 bucks. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-10-2009, 02:53 AM	#45
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I dont at Souplantation. I also don't at Jamba Juice or Starbucks

10-10-2009, 03:02 AM	#47
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	This thread doesn't deserve a tip

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