LXXVIII: Politicus Lupus (GAME OVER!! SEE POST #2593 FOR RESULTS) - Page 13

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 12:51 PM

VOTE NO ON NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

This bill is weak and ieffectual, and my consituents will not stand for it! rather than wasting valuabel fedral funds on training this alleged body guard, we should be buying guns for all the kindergarden children of america! then lets see thes wolvbes try somethign!

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wolf Security Act

Supported: 66%
Did Not Support: 34%

(note: there have been reports that this issue was targeted for support)

I'm still catching up, so this might have been answered, but Democrats, does this mean that you guys put some Support behind this bill?

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 12:58 PM

VOTE YES NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm still catching up, so this might have been answered, but Democrats, does this mean that you guys put some Support behind this bill?

The 66%-34% numbers are the general public's support of the bill:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

There were three votes yesterday. According to polling, general public came out as follows (+/- 4% polling error):

In theory, this means that the general public will be more supportive of any role more centrist than these two from yesterday (which is all of the roles since Seer/BG are at the extremes).

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 01:03 PM

I had issues today with the IP link.

VOTE YES Wolf Security Bill - Rudux
ENDORSE PackerFanatic

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

The 66%-34% numbers are the general public's support of the bill:

In theory, this means that the general public will be more supportive of any role more centrist than these two from yesterday (which is all of the roles since Seer/BG are at the extremes).

Did you mean to quote my post? I was asking if you guys put Support behind the bill.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 01:13 PM

endorse PackerFanatic for President.

VOTE PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 01:15 PM

Two-thirds of the country supported the prior version of the wolf security bill and I aim to keep my constituents happy. Therefore, I will reach across the aisle, in this rare moment, join hands with my fellow Democrat and Republican brothers and shout from on high, that

I support the national wolf security bill-redux

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Did you mean to quote my post? I was asking if you guys put Support behind the bill.

Every post I've ever quoted I've meant to quote. I've never used 'multi-quote' or anything.

And what we do behind closed doors with our support and slurry powers shall stay behind closed doors

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

Every post I've ever quoted I've meant to quote. I've never used 'multi-quote' or anything.

And what we do behind closed doors with our support and slurry powers shall stay behind closed doors

That's fine, I was just curious. Obviously we didn't throw support behind it, so either you did or the wolves did. I can see the wolves doing that, since they attached a rider to it, but if you guys don't care, whatevs.

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 01:41 PM

Pass,

Why do you think we spent a support point on our bill? Both bills had the same support percentages? Did you support yours?

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 01:42 PM

Blah blah blah, you know my thoughts by now.

VOTE NO ON WOLF SECURITY #2

jeheinz72 · 07-23-2008, 01:42 PM

VOTE YES Wolf Security Bill - Redux

I commend the Dems for a fine bill of legistlation.

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 01:46 PM

My constituents have demanded that we make some headway in getting some of these evil wolves! I have ananlaysed all the people in congress and decided that the most dangerous member is the ideal vote!

vote K "im a commie pinko" whitt (Kwhitt)

oliegirl · 07-23-2008, 01:46 PM

NOTE: I am off work until 5 pm ET, so I'll be away from my computer. I will be back about 4:45 and will begin catching up, and addressing any PM's received between now and then. I've passed on the answers I've received from CR, so if you don't have an answer to your question yet, it's because he hasn't replied.

mccollins · 07-23-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl

NOTE: I am off work until 5 pm ET, so I'll be away from my computer. I will be back about 4:45 and will begin catching up, and addressing any PM's received between now and then. I've passed on the answers I've received from CR, so if you don't have an answer to your question yet, it's because he hasn't replied.

It's ok, you can mention the pool

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wolf Security Act

Supported: 66%
Did Not Support: 34%

(note: there have been reports that this issue was targeted for support)

Henry, this is the same stuff that I quoted in post 602, with bolding by me for emphasis. That's where I was getting it from -- obviously SOMEONE threw support at it.

path12 · 07-23-2008, 01:50 PM

VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL REDUX

EagleFan · 07-23-2008, 01:51 PM

Propose ovreturning veto of Wolf Security Bill

If we overturn this we can get three new roles today, in light of the recent rule change which means we can't just bleed the wolves dry as I hoped yesterday.

path12 · 07-23-2008, 01:51 PM

Have to admit, I expected a lot more hookers and blow than I've seen so far. *wanders off*

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Henry, this is the same stuff that I quoted in post 602, with bolding by me for emphasis. That's where I was getting it from -- obviously SOMEONE threw support at it.

Sorry I missed that.

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Propose ovreturning veto of Wolf Security Bill

If we overturn this we can get three new roles today, in light of the recent rule change which means we can't just bleed the wolves dry as I hoped yesterday.

so your wolf? why else woudl you want the wolves to have power?

claphamsa · 07-23-2008, 01:56 PM

FYI, I clicked the wrong forum, but hit stop, before it loaded

sorry :'(

EagleFan · 07-23-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

so your wolf? why else woudl you want the wolves to have power?

It's obvious we can't do our initial plan anyway so why not bite the bullet on this one so we ca get three good bills out there today. It the new veto rule was in existance yesterday I would not have pressed for the veto as I did. Now since it's obvious we cant get around them having the cunning (they'll attach it to the same bill again today) we might as well over-ride the veto to get the BG and givethem the cunning. Today if we present 3 very good bills they have to chose one to rider and we can then decide if we want to use a veto or not at that point.

It seems that cunning is inevitable so we might as well go for the trade off of BG for cunning now.

Of course the Supreme Court creating legislation is a serious infringement upon the consitution.

EagleFan · 07-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

FYI, I clicked the wrong forum, but hit stop, before it loaded

sorry :'(

String him up!!!

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296

Sorry I missed that.

No problem. I'm not worried about which bill has a higher percentage or anything in terms of party lines, but I do wonder if the wolf rider lowered support for that bill, while whatever effort was put in to support the bill evened it out.

I still don't get why you don't seem concerned with all the wolf influence you have going on with your bill.

EagleFan · 07-23-2008, 02:06 PM

endorse PackerFanatic for president

vote clap wolf

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 02:08 PM

I agree with EagleFan. I can't afford to vote with him, but I would encourage others to. I won't oppose the bill.

henry296 · 07-23-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

No problem. I'm not worried about which bill has a higher percentage or anything in terms of party lines, but I do wonder if the wolf rider lowered support for that bill, while whatever effort was put in to support the bill evened it out.

I still don't get why you don't seem concerned with all the wolf influence you have going on with your bill.

It is very logical that the wolves supported our bill to make the democrats look worse if and when it got vetoed. Therefore, I think it is more likely a republican wolf did the support action and not a democratic wolf.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

My constituents have demanded that we make some headway in getting some of these evil wolves! I have ananlaysed all the people in congress and decided that the most dangerous member is the ideal vote!

vote K "im a commie pinko" whitt (Kwhitt)

this is a piss poor vote and an obvious attempt to throw our party in dissarray!

A very poor show of faith.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296

It is very logical that the wolves supported our bill to make the democrats look worse if and when it got vetoed. Therefore, I think it is more likely a republican wolf did the support action and not a democratic wolf.

That is logical -- but it is also logical that the Dems supported their own bill, since they all planned to vote for it. Also, I don't think the wolves are concerned with the whole Dem/Rep struggle. Plus, I'd imagine that the wolves are working together as one team, rather than a Dem Wolf team and a Rep Wolf team.

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I agree with EagleFan. I can't afford to vote with him, but I would encourage others to. I won't oppose the bill.

what are you agreeing with, his vote for clap?

PurdueBrad · 07-23-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Propose ovreturning veto of Wolf Security Bill

If we overturn this we can get three new roles today, in light of the recent rule change which means we can't just bleed the wolves dry as I hoped yesterday.

This is very likely going to fail, so watch your popularity hits. Tyrith and Heinz have already gone against it and can't change their votes. Cronin, myself, and our more conservative members aren't going to jump on it meaning you'll get close but no cigar.

More importantly though, IF we pass the override, we give the wolves 2 powers today just so we can pass one more bill, bad idea. I would rather pass three bills today (plus yesterday's one) to one wolf power (4:1) vs. passing an extra bill today and giving the wolves another power (5:2). I think trying to do so does look a bit wolfy although I'm not ready to string anyone up over thinking outside the box.

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

My constituents have demanded that we make some headway in getting some of these evil wolves! I have ananlaysed all the people in congress and decided that the most dangerous member is the ideal vote!

vote K "im a commie pinko" whitt (Kwhitt)

I think we need to keep politics out of our search for wolves. If you have any reason at all to suspect me of being a wolf, let me hear it. But just because I am on the other end of the political spectrum as you is a poor reason to vote to lynch me.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:30 PM

My name is Passacaglia, and I endorse ILLINIFAN999 for President.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

what are you agreeing with, his vote for clap?

I think he was agreeing with EF's vote to overturn the veto. If the bill has 66% support, that means that the 66% most liberal of us could vote to overturn it, and it doesn't seem like we would suffer political consequences. However, some of that 66% support is from artificial means. Which, if henry's implication is true, you guys weren't responsible for. Either way, if that support goes away (I don't know if it works like that, but I guess it could), that might change things.

Anyway, after all that, I think we just really want to avoid giving them a cunning wolf.

illinifan999 · 07-23-2008, 02:40 PM

The fact is that we need a protector in order to better serve our nation. It is witht his belief that I VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL REDUX.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 02:55 PM

This vote is without much conviction:

VOTE HENRY296

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 02:56 PM

dola, that was a lynch vote:

VOTE LYNCH HENRY296

I hope that's correct.

chesapeake · 07-23-2008, 03:02 PM

VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2008, 03:04 PM

Seeing as how his vote was mainly based off his political feelings and not based on any substantial evidence, I have to back my party and my party leader by voting for the censure of Clap.

VOTE LYNCH CLAPHAMSA

Lathum · 07-23-2008, 03:06 PM

I must show support for our party leader

VOTE LYNCH CLAPHASMA

path12 · 07-23-2008, 03:11 PM

Despite my agreement with him on the veto last evening, you cannot vote to censure my party leader without repercussion.

VOTE LYNCH CLAPHAMSA

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 03:12 PM

Are the Republicans planning on releasing a bill to the floor today?

It's getting late in the day.

st.cronin · 07-23-2008, 03:13 PM

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Are the Republicans planning on releasing a bill to the floor today?

It's getting late in the day.

I've been waiting on a moderator response, and it hasn't been quick in coming. Bill will be coming soon.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Are the Republicans planning on releasing a bill to the floor today?

It's getting late in the day.

will keep you posted

KWhit · 07-23-2008, 03:18 PM

Gotcha.

And are you guys planning on trying to lynch the Democratic Leader today?

I'd prefer it if you didn't.

Tyrith · 07-23-2008, 03:20 PM

WOLF OBSERVATION ACT

A witness, to be chosen at random among non-Wolf, non-seer, non-BG players, who, once per night, can PM the moderator with a person they will follow for that night. This person will be able to determine whether or not the person is using one of the previous roles we have passed via legislation in this game.

Passacaglia · 07-23-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Gotcha.

And are you guys planning on trying to lynch the Democratic Leader today?

I'd prefer it if you didn't.

Do you need a vote count?

07-23-2008, 12:51 PM	#601
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	VOTE NO ON NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX This bill is weak and ieffectual, and my consituents will not stand for it! rather than wasting valuabel fedral funds on training this alleged body guard, we should be buying guns for all the kindergarden children of america! then lets see thes wolvbes try somethign! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 01:03 PM	#605
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I had issues today with the IP link. VOTE YES Wolf Security Bill - Rudux ENDORSE PackerFanatic __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-23-2008, 01:41 PM	#611
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Pass, Why do you think we spent a support point on our bill? Both bills had the same support percentages? Did you support yours? __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

07-23-2008, 01:46 PM	#614
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	My constituents have demanded that we make some headway in getting some of these evil wolves! I have ananlaysed all the people in congress and decided that the most dangerous member is the ideal vote! vote K "im a commie pinko" whitt (Kwhitt) __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 01:50 PM	#618
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL REDUX __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-23-2008, 12:58 PM	#603
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	VOTE YES NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

07-23-2008, 01:13 PM	#607
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	endorse PackerFanatic for President. VOTE PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

07-23-2008, 01:15 PM	#608
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Two-thirds of the country supported the prior version of the wolf security bill and I aim to keep my constituents happy. Therefore, I will reach across the aisle, in this rare moment, join hands with my fellow Democrat and Republican brothers and shout from on high, that I support the national wolf security bill-redux

07-23-2008, 01:42 PM	#612
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Blah blah blah, you know my thoughts by now. VOTE NO ON WOLF SECURITY #2

07-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#619
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Propose ovreturning veto of Wolf Security Bill If we overturn this we can get three new roles today, in light of the recent rule change which means we can't just bleed the wolves dry as I hoped yesterday.

07-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#620
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Have to admit, I expected a lot more hookers and blow than I've seen so far. wanders off __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-23-2008, 01:56 PM	#623
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	FYI, I clicked the wrong forum, but hit stop, before it loaded sorry :'( __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-23-2008, 02:06 PM	#627
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	endorse PackerFanatic for president vote clap wolf

07-23-2008, 02:08 PM	#628
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I agree with EagleFan. I can't afford to vote with him, but I would encourage others to. I won't oppose the bill. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 02:30 PM	#635
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	My name is Passacaglia, and I endorse ILLINIFAN999 for President.

07-23-2008, 02:40 PM	#637
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	The fact is that we need a protector in order to better serve our nation. It is witht his belief that I VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL REDUX. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-23-2008, 02:55 PM	#638
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	This vote is without much conviction: VOTE HENRY296 __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 02:56 PM	#639
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	dola, that was a lynch vote: VOTE LYNCH HENRY296 I hope that's correct. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 03:02 PM	#640
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	VOTE TO PASS NATIONAL WOLF SECURITY BILL - REDUX

07-23-2008, 03:04 PM	#641
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Seeing as how his vote was mainly based off his political feelings and not based on any substantial evidence, I have to back my party and my party leader by voting for the censure of Clap. VOTE LYNCH CLAPHAMSA __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2008, 03:06 PM	#642
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I must show support for our party leader VOTE LYNCH CLAPHASMA

07-23-2008, 03:11 PM	#643
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Despite my agreement with him on the veto last evening, you cannot vote to censure my party leader without repercussion. VOTE LYNCH CLAPHAMSA __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-23-2008, 03:12 PM	#644
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Are the Republicans planning on releasing a bill to the floor today? It's getting late in the day.

07-23-2008, 03:13 PM	#645
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Yes. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-23-2008, 03:18 PM	#648
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Gotcha. And are you guys planning on trying to lynch the Democratic Leader today? I'd prefer it if you didn't.

07-23-2008, 03:20 PM	#649
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	WOLF OBSERVATION ACT A witness, to be chosen at random among non-Wolf, non-seer, non-BG players, who, once per night, can PM the moderator with a person they will follow for that night. This person will be able to determine whether or not the person is using one of the previous roles we have passed via legislation in this game.

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