Depp vs Heard - who's lying?

Edward64 · 05-28-2022, 11:05 PM

Slow day so thought what the heck. See below for background info ...

Johnny Depp’s Attorney Tells Jury In Closing Arguments: “This Is MeToo Without Any MeToo” – Deadline

GrantDawg · 05-29-2022, 09:10 AM

I'm the troutyest trout that ever trouted. I have followed this at all, but on what has seeped in against my will as the media has been force feeding this down everyone's throat, both people are pretty gross.

sabotai · 05-29-2022, 09:16 AM

Same boat as GrantDawg. I have not paid attention but still have seen a lot due to the media (both traditional and social) being all over it. Both sound like a nightmare to be around and at this point I could not care less who was worse.

NobodyHere · 05-29-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I'm the troutyest trout that ever trouted. I have followed this at all, but on what has seeped in against my will as the media has been force feeding this down everyone's throat, both people are pretty gross.

They both deserver a trout up their you-know-what

flere-imsaho · 05-29-2022, 12:02 PM

I'm #teamtrout. It's difficult to read any analysis of this shitshow and not come to the conclusion that these are two very unpleasant people who likely did a lot of horrible stuff to each other.

tarcone · 05-29-2022, 12:07 PM

Heard. Some of the shit that has gone is so funny. This is almost a comedy skit. Catch the high lights, they are pretty funny.

Kodos · 05-29-2022, 12:20 PM

Add me to the “I’ve tried to avoid it, but imagine they are both terrible” camp.

Brian Swartz · 05-29-2022, 02:49 PM

Trout. It would be nearly impossible for me to care less than I do.

cuervo72 · 05-29-2022, 02:50 PM

Trout. I don't know why this is getting so much play in the media, IDGAF.

albionmoonlight · 05-29-2022, 05:25 PM

This trial caused me to use twitter's mute word feature for the first time ever (I muted "Depp")

From what little I can glean, it seems like the trial is another opportunity for the worst people on the internet to blindly attack her because she's a woman. So that sucks. But I have no idea what the case is really about or who should "win."

Solecismic · 05-29-2022, 05:50 PM

I haven't seen enough to know which one (or both) is lying, or which one to root for.

It seems like they're playing a game of some sort. Maybe a long-game cautionary tale or a parody of whatever Instagram/TikTok is all about with young people.

Surely, as far as movie careers go, this is mutally-assured destruction in that each has destroyed his or her future box office.

Depp's starting to remind me of Ron Jeremy. But I can't think of a better illustration of A) why you shouldn't do drugs if even the stigma is gone and it's pretty much legal now and B) why when you get a divorce, the less space that your ex occupies in your mind, the better you'll feel about your own life.

Mostly, though, I think of the remarkable amount of court time they've eaten up and how in the world the legal system expects us to take it seriously when this circus is on display.

Groundhog · 05-29-2022, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

From what little I can glean, it seems like the trial is another opportunity for the worst people on the internet to blindly attack her because she's a woman. So that sucks. But I have no idea what the case is really about or who should "win."

Yeah this is my main issue with the whole thing too. It's got a real incel vibe to it that doesn't sit right with me. Could care less about either of them in general.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Yeah this is my main issue with the whole thing too. It's got a real incel vibe to it that doesn't sit right with me. Could care less about either of them in general.

Maybe it's just the difference in our feeds or something but I've seen far more women go after her than men.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2022, 08:36 PM

At the risk of a near-sidebar/sidetrack, a recurring theme in this thread kinda has me scratching my head.

Sure, there's been a media frenzy (best I can tell) but the way the topic has hammered social media (broadly speaking) I can't say that isn't simply media responding to demand/interest.

But that aside, is it really THAT hard for people to avoid the subject? I'm aware of it because it's a popular sideshow on Twitter but I doubt I've seen it mentioned three times total aside from the Trending stuff on the Twitter side panel. Likewise, I think my entire FB feed has mentioned it in maybe two threads and those lasted about a day each. And it was literally just 2 people out of 700+.

Are you following people that post about it a lot? Maybe THAT is the issue more than "the media".

And if you mean traditional media rather than social media, maybe it's time to examine more closely what you're watching/reading if you're getting an overdose on that subject. I'm far from disconnected from events - be those local, national, or international, yet I haven't gotten any sense of being beaten over the head with the celeb news. It's there but I hardly ever click, so it's no more or less than just another advertisement for me to ignore basically.

To be clear: I'm not criticizing, I'm trying to ask a sincere question. Basically, wtf media are you consuming where you're getting annoyed by getting OD'ed on trial coverage?

cuervo72 · 05-29-2022, 08:53 PM

It's been mentioned pretty much nightly on our local news. (Sinclair station, for whatever that's worth.)

albionmoonlight · 05-29-2022, 10:28 PM

I kept seeing it on twitter, but no so much from people I follow. Instead it was with the "you may be interested in" or whatever they call it suggested links.

My guess is that the algorithm (correctly) associates me with being interested in legal stuff, so it started promoting this. The problem is that this isn't legal news; it is celebrity news that happens to be a civil trial.

I will say that simply muting Depp pretty much got rid of it for me on the twitter feed.

dubb93 · 05-29-2022, 11:45 PM

I've literally seen almost nothing because I don't watch TV or really do social media. That being said I have seen enough to know that she would shit on his side of the bed for god knows what reason and that he has a drug problem and honestly who knows what he did when he was so high he doesn't remember. They both are bad people and the relationship was toxic. I guess we are doing this simply because she decided to go public with how shit of a person he is? I guess in that sense I will side with him. As toxic as this was and as bad of people as these two are none of this should have ever went public.

CrimsonFox · 05-30-2022, 03:49 AM

when did this site become a soap opera tabloid?

Brian Swartz · 05-30-2022, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I don't know why this is getting so much play in the media, IDGAF.

Celebrity news draws eyeballs more than hard news.

Edward64 · 05-30-2022, 06:18 PM

Lots of love for Depp.

NobodyHere · 05-30-2022, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

when did this site become a soap opera tabloid?

Pretty much ever since this site came into existence.

cartman · 05-30-2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

when did this site become a soap opera tabloid?

Ms. Heard, please tell me about HornsManiac

Edward64 · 06-01-2022, 05:52 PM

And the jury has spoken

JPhillips · 06-01-2022, 06:15 PM

The GOP is nothing but an AI shitposting bot.

pic.twitter.com/aSmY4hodN4
— House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) June 1, 2022

albionmoonlight · 06-01-2022, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The GOP is nothing but an AI shitposting bot.

pic.twitter.com/aSmY4hodN4
— House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) June 1, 2022

Huh. So this really ended up becoming “He’s a man; she’s a woman. Root accordingly.“

RainMaker · 06-01-2022, 06:35 PM

I feel happy that I avoided as much of this story as I could and didn't really know what the fuck was going on. I guess I was more astonished by how long the trial went on and how many people seemed to care.

tarcone · 06-01-2022, 07:58 PM

She lost credibility (hahahahahaha) with me, when she denied shitting the bed and then Momoa came on and said she shit in the pool they were in during a scene.

Really, this was just comedy gold throughout.

Edward64 · 06-01-2022, 08:00 PM

Er, didn't know about that. Good thing I wasn't reading everything about the trial.

From the little bit of what I saw about Momoa, he's an asshole acting like that in court video conference.

tarcone · 06-01-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Er, didn't know about that. Good thing I wasn't reading everything about the trial.

From the little bit of what I saw about Momoa, he's an asshole acting like that in court video conference.

The judge had no control

View Poll Results: Who do you believe?
Team Depp	4	9.09%
Team Heard	3	6.82%
Somewhere inbetween but lean Team Depp	11	25.00%
Somewhere inbetween but lean Team Heard	4	9.09%
Trout	22	50.00%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

05-29-2022, 12:07 PM	#6
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Heard. Some of the shit that has gone is so funny. This is almost a comedy skit. Catch the high lights, they are pretty funny. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

05-29-2022, 12:20 PM	#7
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Add me to the “I’ve tried to avoid it, but imagine they are both terrible” camp. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 05-29-2022 at 12:20 PM.

05-29-2022, 02:50 PM	#9
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Trout. I don't know why this is getting so much play in the media, IDGAF. __________________ null

05-29-2022, 08:36 PM	#14
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	At the risk of a near-sidebar/sidetrack, a recurring theme in this thread kinda has me scratching my head. Sure, there's been a media frenzy (best I can tell) but the way the topic has hammered social media (broadly speaking) I can't say that isn't simply media responding to demand/interest. But that aside, is it really THAT hard for people to avoid the subject? I'm aware of it because it's a popular sideshow on Twitter but I doubt I've seen it mentioned three times total aside from the Trending stuff on the Twitter side panel. Likewise, I think my entire FB feed has mentioned it in maybe two threads and those lasted about a day each. And it was literally just 2 people out of 700+. Are you following people that post about it a lot? Maybe THAT is the issue more than "the media". And if you mean traditional media rather than social media, maybe it's time to examine more closely what you're watching/reading if you're getting an overdose on that subject. I'm far from disconnected from events - be those local, national, or international, yet I haven't gotten any sense of being beaten over the head with the celeb news. It's there but I hardly ever click, so it's no more or less than just another advertisement for me to ignore basically. To be clear: I'm not criticizing, I'm trying to ask a sincere question. Basically, wtf media are you consuming where you're getting annoyed by getting OD'ed on trial coverage? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 05-29-2022 at 08:37 PM.

05-29-2022, 09:10 AM	#2
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I'm the troutyest trout that ever trouted. I have followed this at all, but on what has seeped in against my will as the media has been force feeding this down everyone's throat, both people are pretty gross.

05-29-2022, 09:16 AM	#3
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Same boat as GrantDawg. I have not paid attention but still have seen a lot due to the media (both traditional and social) being all over it. Both sound like a nightmare to be around and at this point I could not care less who was worse.

05-29-2022, 12:02 PM	#5
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I'm #teamtrout. It's difficult to read any analysis of this shitshow and not come to the conclusion that these are two very unpleasant people who likely did a lot of horrible stuff to each other.

05-29-2022, 02:49 PM	#8
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Trout. It would be nearly impossible for me to care less than I do.

05-29-2022, 05:25 PM	#10
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	This trial caused me to use twitter's mute word feature for the first time ever (I muted "Depp") From what little I can glean, it seems like the trial is another opportunity for the worst people on the internet to blindly attack her because she's a woman. So that sucks. But I have no idea what the case is really about or who should "win."

05-29-2022, 05:50 PM	#11
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I haven't seen enough to know which one (or both) is lying, or which one to root for. It seems like they're playing a game of some sort. Maybe a long-game cautionary tale or a parody of whatever Instagram/TikTok is all about with young people. Surely, as far as movie careers go, this is mutally-assured destruction in that each has destroyed his or her future box office. Depp's starting to remind me of Ron Jeremy. But I can't think of a better illustration of A) why you shouldn't do drugs if even the stigma is gone and it's pretty much legal now and B) why when you get a divorce, the less space that your ex occupies in your mind, the better you'll feel about your own life. Mostly, though, I think of the remarkable amount of court time they've eaten up and how in the world the legal system expects us to take it seriously when this circus is on display.

05-29-2022, 08:53 PM	#15
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	It's been mentioned pretty much nightly on our local news. (Sinclair station, for whatever that's worth.) __________________ null

05-29-2022, 10:28 PM	#16
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I kept seeing it on twitter, but no so much from people I follow. Instead it was with the "you may be interested in" or whatever they call it suggested links. My guess is that the algorithm (correctly) associates me with being interested in legal stuff, so it started promoting this. The problem is that this isn't legal news; it is celebrity news that happens to be a civil trial. I will say that simply muting Depp pretty much got rid of it for me on the twitter feed. Last edited by albionmoonlight : 05-29-2022 at 10:29 PM.

05-30-2022, 03:49 AM	#18
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	when did this site become a soap opera tabloid?

05-30-2022, 06:18 PM	#20
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Lots of love for Depp.

06-01-2022, 05:52 PM	#23
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	And the jury has spoken Last edited by Edward64 : 06-01-2022 at 05:53 PM.

06-01-2022, 06:15 PM	#24
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	The GOP is nothing but an AI shitposting bot. pic.twitter.com/aSmY4hodN4 — House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) June 1, 2022 __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

06-01-2022, 06:35 PM	#26
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I feel happy that I avoided as much of this story as I could and didn't really know what the fuck was going on. I guess I was more astonished by how long the trial went on and how many people seemed to care.

06-01-2022, 07:58 PM	#27
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	She lost credibility (hahahahahaha) with me, when she denied shitting the bed and then Momoa came on and said she shit in the pool they were in during a scene. Really, this was just comedy gold throughout. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

06-01-2022, 08:00 PM	#28
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Er, didn't know about that. Good thing I wasn't reading everything about the trial. From the little bit of what I saw about Momoa, he's an asshole acting like that in court video conference.

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