2014-15 NFL Offseason Thread (Non Draft Edition) - Page 37

stevew · 07-31-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

I don't know what he did to you along the way, but this was a very fair deal for both sides given what he's done to this point and the market for QBs. Given he didn't even become the highest paid QB in the league on this deal, it won't handcuff the team and will likely seem like a bargain in a few years with the subsequent deals that are going to be signed by other guys (yes, I'm looking at you Andrew Luck).

Yea, this deal is actually including his 2015 year for prorated purposes so the cap numbers aren't bad at all. And in reality, what are you going to do? Go find a new QB? We see that happen all the time.

stevew · 08-01-2015, 11:56 PM

So what's Chip Kelly's problem with talented players? Isn't Brandon Boykin like really good? The steelers got him for a 5th that can become a 4th.

albionmoonlight · 08-03-2015, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So what's Chip Kelly's problem with talented players? Isn't Brandon Boykin like really good? The steelers got him for a 5th that can become a 4th.

Kelly is 100% in on his system. If you don't fit, then he'll get what he can for you.

I'm anxious for him to fully implement his system so we can see if the NFL's game engine is broken.

Logan · 08-05-2015, 12:24 PM

This is great.

The Hardest Part of NFL Training Camp: ‘Game of Thrones’ Spoilers

Kodos · 08-07-2015, 11:34 AM

Arian Foster is ‘the anti-Tebow,’ publicly declares himself an atheist - The Washington Post

Good for him.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-07-2015, 11:52 AM

Aldon Smith of San Francisco 49ers arrested in hit and run, DUI

BillJasper · 08-07-2015, 11:54 AM

I've never like the 49ers, but I'm really feeling bad for Jim Tomsula at this point.

Vince, Pt. II · 08-07-2015, 11:59 AM

Sigh. Multi-million dollar skills, ten cent head.

kingfc22 · 08-07-2015, 12:48 PM

Geez. Get rid of this guy already.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-07-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Geez. Get rid of this guy already.

Done

Aldon Smith released by San Francisco 49ers

Danny · 08-07-2015, 01:51 PM

49ers looking like a decent guess as any to get #1 pick next year.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-07-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Done

Aldon Smith released by San Francisco 49ers

So continues The Curse of Jim Harbaugh...

albionmoonlight · 08-07-2015, 01:58 PM

Unlike the string of retirements, which seemed to come out of the blue, Aldon Smith's deal was part of the risk the 49ers had coming into the season. Based on his history, this was something that was certainly possible.

stevew · 08-07-2015, 02:17 PM

They had already reworked his deal into a bunch of roster bonuses, I believe. It's not that surprising he was on his last strike

stevew · 08-07-2015, 02:20 PM

Also it's a pretty sneaky tanking move. He had to be worth a half of a win or so, this just buys them a pick 5 or so higher.

JPhillips · 08-07-2015, 03:34 PM

The bullshit around his alcoholism and supposedly overcoming it last year really did no favors for him. It was remarkably transparent last year when he quickly made it through treatment that he was likely to have continuing problems. He, his agent, the team, and the NFL all were more concerned about short term profit and now the guy is likely out of the game for good.

miami_fan · 08-07-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I've never like the 49ers, but I'm really feeling bad for Jim Tomsula at this point.

I missed the introductory press conference but I was very impressed with how Tomsula handled the press conference. Is he always that respectful to the press?

NobodyHere · 08-09-2015, 06:52 AM

Well the preseason finally starts today. Just means we're one step closer to the regular season!

BillJasper · 08-09-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well the preseason finally starts today. Just means we're one step closer to the regular season!

Think I finally have reached my burn out point with the NFL.

Used to be that I'd have known this game was on and been ready to watch it two hours before kickoff. Found out this was on, still watching the Dodgers/Pirates and will watch the CFL game I recorded earlier today when I'm done on the interwebs.

Kodos · 08-09-2015, 08:53 PM

It's hard to get excited about preseason games.

BillJasper · 08-09-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

It's hard to get excited about preseason games.

For me, it is a real swing in how I react to the NFL. I'm not excited about the coming season, I'm not excited about Madden.

Coffee Warlord · 08-09-2015, 09:06 PM

I had absolutely no idea the preseason was starting.

NobodyHere · 08-09-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

It's hard to get excited about preseason games.

I don't really care about preseason either, especially when shitsburgh plays. But it does mean that the regular season is right around the corner.

Solecismic · 08-10-2015, 03:16 PM

Flynn's out, Lindley's in as the Patriots' clipboard carrier. If Belichick can make Ryan Lindley into an NFL quarterback, he's not just Hall of Fame worthy, he's Football itself.

albionmoonlight · 08-10-2015, 03:53 PM

Every team has shit happen to them. But losing your kicker making a tackle during the first preseason is worse shit than most, I'd say.

cartman · 08-10-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Every team has shit happen to them. But losing your kicker making a tackle during the first preseason is worse shit than most, I'd say.

At least it happened on the field, not like the Jacksonville punter and the axe in the locker room.

BillJasper · 08-10-2015, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Every team has shit happen to them. But losing your kicker making a tackle during the first preseason is worse shit than most, I'd say.

It's the kicker. Who cares? They're a dime a dozen.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-10-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

It's the kicker. Who cares? They're a dime a dozen.

They seem that way until you don't have a good one.

BillJasper · 08-10-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

They seem that way until you don't have a good one.

There are a couple that are great, Suisham isn't one of them.

BishopMVP · 08-10-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Flynn's out, Lindley's in as the Patriots' clipboard carrier. If Belichick can make Ryan Lindley into an NFL quarterback, he's not just Hall of Fame worthy, he's Football itself.

Seems like they only made this move so they'll have a backup Thursday, and there's a better chance they'll re-sign Flynn once healthy than actually try and develop Lindley. "Asked what traits he sees from Lindley that makes the Patriots want to work with him, Belichick said, "He has some experience, been with a couple different organizations, played some, and he's healthy. That's the most important trait.""

Abe Sargent · 08-10-2015, 08:27 PM

I really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really want Jack Del Rio to do well in Oakland....

Abe Sargent · 08-10-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

They seem that way until you don't have a good one.

The Jags may have two in per-season camp, they brought someone in for competition who just had some really intriguing kicks in the first scrimmage and such. You can have the one we don't wind up with.

thesloppy · 08-10-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

The Jags may have two in per-season camp, they brought someone in for competition who just had some really intriguing kicks in the first scrimmage and such. You can have the one we don't wind up with.

The Lions are actually set at kicker, they just went through a couple kickers, a draft pick and practically lost last season getting there.

EagleFan · 08-13-2015, 06:52 PM

What is with that god awful scoreboard/advertising display on NFL Network? That is a hideous distraction.

BillJasper · 08-13-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

What is with that god awful scoreboard/advertising display on NFL Network? That is a hideous distraction.

Across the bottom? That's always been there.

Top left is from the local station covering the game.

EagleFan · 08-13-2015, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Across the bottom? That's always been there.

Top left is from the local station covering the game.

Top left.

albionmoonlight · 08-14-2015, 08:12 AM

Saints looking pretty meh in first preseason game. Over the last two offseasons, the team gave big contracts to Jimmy Graham (traded), Junior Gallette (cut), and Jarius Byrd (injured).

I think that the team has done the right thing by trying to fix those mistakes and take the cap hit, as opposed to keeping the contracts on the books as an albatross. But it also means that the team could not really improve this offseason in free agency.

Unless the rookies step up in a bigger way than I expect, it seems like 7-9 is likely again.

And Rob Ryan seems like a super duper fun guy. But I am not sure why he's managed to stay around as a DC for so long: Rob Ryan Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Arles · 08-14-2015, 03:24 PM

Kudos to ESPN writer Field Yates for this nugget. Only 3 players on Green Bay's 88-man roster have played an NFL snap for another team: Peppers, Letroy Guion and John Kuhn. Pretty crazy in today's NFL.

CU Tiger · 08-14-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Unless the rookies step up in a bigger way than I expect, it seems like 7-9 is likely again.

Yeah I am biased, but....I suspect Stephone Anthony is going to be the rookie shock of the league this year.

He was never asked to be a stud in his college system and still jumped off the film. TREMENDOUS Athlete and a great natural instinct for the ball

NobodyHere · 08-15-2015, 07:07 AM

NobodyHere · 08-16-2015, 07:34 AM

Trent Richardson is who we thought he is

Dutch · 08-16-2015, 07:52 AM

Groundhog · 08-16-2015, 09:00 AM

I really expected rugby-convert Jarryd Hayne's NFL experiment to be a miserable failure, but he's certainly shown some flashes. A nice 55 yard rush today and a couple of decent kick returns... I'd say he's a real shot to stick the way he's been going.

albionmoonlight · 08-16-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Yeah I am biased, but....I suspect Stephone Anthony is going to be the rookie shock of the league this year.

He was never asked to be a stud in his college system and still jumped off the film. TREMENDOUS Athlete and a great natural instinct for the ball

All the reporters in camp can't stop raving about him. Seems like the real deal.

bob · 08-16-2015, 09:29 AM

I hope Tebow throws a few TD passes today....

cuervo72 · 08-16-2015, 10:49 AM

Oh that's right, forgot about him. Ok, maybe a reason to actually watch past the 1st of that game.

TroyF · 08-16-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I'd say this if Manning did it, I'd say it if Kubiak or Elway did it. There needs to be MAJOR fines for that garbage. Every member of the sidelines needs to pay attention and stay the hell back on a punt or kick. The ref could have suffered a major injury running at full speed.

Not to mention the idiocy we've had with Tomlin, the Jets group of jackasses and other close calls actually impacting the game. Enough is enough. Stay the hell behind that white stripe unless you are one of the 22 football players or 7 officials. If you can't do that, donate a huge chunk of your salary to the Make a Wish Foundation or something.

claphamsa · 08-16-2015, 11:17 AM

so rivers gets over 20M a year, and the most guaranteed of any player in the NFL? would he get than in FA? I mean... hes 33 and not all that great.

murrayyyyy · 08-16-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Trent Richardson is who we thought he is

Richardson's field vision has been a sore spot since he entered the NFL with the Cleveland Browns. He has averaged 3.31 yards on his 614 career carries. According to Pro Football Reference, only one running back in NFL history with at least 600 rushing attempts has a worse yards-per-carry average than Richardson. Clarke Hinkle averaged 3.30 yards on 1,171 carries for the Green Bay Packers from 1932 through 1941.
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I'm not sure I have a huge problem with it since the guard pulled and he was following him while the entire OL blocked one guy... but yeah he still sucks.

Thomkal · 08-16-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

so rivers gets over 20M a year, and the most guaranteed of any player in the NFL? would he get than in FA? I mean... hes 33 and not all that great.

very surprised they resigned him. I would have thought they would roll the dice on a rookie given how he's looked the past couple seasons.

08-05-2015, 12:24 PM	#1804
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08-07-2015, 11:34 AM	#1805
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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Aldon Smith of San Francisco 49ers arrested in hit and run, DUI __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-07-2015, 11:54 AM	#1807
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I've never like the 49ers, but I'm really feeling bad for Jim Tomsula at this point. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Geez. Get rid of this guy already. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-01-2015, 11:56 PM	#1802
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So what's Chip Kelly's problem with talented players? Isn't Brandon Boykin like really good? The steelers got him for a 5th that can become a 4th.

08-07-2015, 11:59 AM	#1808
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Sigh. Multi-million dollar skills, ten cent head.

08-07-2015, 01:51 PM	#1811
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	49ers looking like a decent guess as any to get #1 pick next year.

08-07-2015, 01:58 PM	#1813
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Unlike the string of retirements, which seemed to come out of the blue, Aldon Smith's deal was part of the risk the 49ers had coming into the season. Based on his history, this was something that was certainly possible.

08-07-2015, 02:17 PM	#1814
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	They had already reworked his deal into a bunch of roster bonuses, I believe. It's not that surprising he was on his last strike

08-07-2015, 02:20 PM	#1815
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Also it's a pretty sneaky tanking move. He had to be worth a half of a win or so, this just buys them a pick 5 or so higher.

08-07-2015, 03:34 PM	#1816
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	The bullshit around his alcoholism and supposedly overcoming it last year really did no favors for him. It was remarkably transparent last year when he quickly made it through treatment that he was likely to have continuing problems. He, his agent, the team, and the NFL all were more concerned about short term profit and now the guy is likely out of the game for good. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

08-09-2015, 06:52 AM	#1818
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Well the preseason finally starts today. Just means we're one step closer to the regular season! __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

08-09-2015, 08:53 PM	#1820
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It's hard to get excited about preseason games. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

08-09-2015, 09:06 PM	#1822
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I had absolutely no idea the preseason was starting.

08-10-2015, 03:16 PM	#1824
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Flynn's out, Lindley's in as the Patriots' clipboard carrier. If Belichick can make Ryan Lindley into an NFL quarterback, he's not just Hall of Fame worthy, he's Football itself.

08-10-2015, 03:53 PM	#1825
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Every team has shit happen to them. But losing your kicker making a tackle during the first preseason is worse shit than most, I'd say.

08-10-2015, 08:27 PM	#1831
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08-14-2015, 08:12 AM	#1837
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Saints looking pretty meh in first preseason game. Over the last two offseasons, the team gave big contracts to Jimmy Graham (traded), Junior Gallette (cut), and Jarius Byrd (injured). I think that the team has done the right thing by trying to fix those mistakes and take the cap hit, as opposed to keeping the contracts on the books as an albatross. But it also means that the team could not really improve this offseason in free agency. Unless the rookies step up in a bigger way than I expect, it seems like 7-9 is likely again. And Rob Ryan seems like a super duper fun guy. But I am not sure why he's managed to stay around as a DC for so long: Rob Ryan Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks \| Pro-Football-Reference.com

08-14-2015, 03:24 PM	#1838
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Kudos to ESPN writer Field Yates for this nugget. Only 3 players on Green Bay's 88-man roster have played an NFL snap for another team: Peppers, Letroy Guion and John Kuhn. Pretty crazy in today's NFL. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com Last edited by Arles : 08-14-2015 at 03:25 PM.

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08-16-2015, 07:52 AM	#1842
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	haha

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I really expected rugby-convert Jarryd Hayne's NFL experiment to be a miserable failure, but he's certainly shown some flashes. A nice 55 yard rush today and a couple of decent kick returns... I'd say he's a real shot to stick the way he's been going. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-16-2015, 09:29 AM	#1845
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	I hope Tebow throws a few TD passes today....

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