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View Poll Results: Who is more morally objectionable
Mike "I like to kill dogs, plus tried to kill Quanis(sp) Phillips" Vick 15 27.27%
Ben "I rape girls" Roethlisberger 11 20.00%
I cannot make a distinction between either piece of shit 26 47.27%
I don't have a problem with either 3 5.45%
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:16 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:21 PM   #3
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Never been proven that Ben actually raped anyone
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Old 09-22-2010, 03:37 PM   #4
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:20 PM   #7
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I'll choose Vick.

Ben is on my fantasy team.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:41 PM   #8
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:43 PM   #9
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Pretty sure I hate the ref that called the Lions pass incomplete worse than these guys.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:47 PM   #10
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Pretty sure I hate the ref that called the Lions pass incomplete worse than these guys.
But it was incomplete. So using internet propositional logic, since the pass was incomplete per the rules, you hate dogs and women.

And Hitler is involved somehow.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:48 PM   #11
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Pretty sure I hate the ref that called the Lions pass incomplete worse than these guys.

I'll make sure to tell him that when I see him tonight.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:49 PM   #12
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:53 PM   #13
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But it was incomplete. So using internet propositional logic, since the pass was incomplete per the rules, you hate dogs and women.

And Hitler is involved somehow.

I heard Hitler ran a 4.5 40
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I heard Hitler ran a 4.5 40
I assume this occurred as he tried to chase Jesse Owens out of the stadium?
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Tell him he's short, too.
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I can promise you I would not root for Vick or Roethlisberger if they were on my team. Just like JeeberD didn't root for TO when he was on the Cowboys.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:04 PM   #18
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I'll make sure to tell him that when I see him tonight.

There you go bragging about almost being a professional ref again!
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:24 PM   #19
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C'mon Pumpy, you know there's gotta be some comparative reference to their actions versus those of NBA players somewhere.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:49 PM   #20
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I dunno. I'm all on the Vick bandwagon now. I realize what he did was reprehensible, but you hear about these random pit bulls killing their owners, or their owners kids, and I feel a little less bad. Also, he was raised poorly. Just look at his brother. I voted "no distinction", just because Big Ben is such a dick.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:54 PM   #21
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I dunno. I'm all on the Vick bandwagon now. I realize what he did was reprehensible, but you hear about these random pit bulls killing their owners, or their owners kids, and I feel a little less bad. Also, he was raised poorly. Just look at his brother. I voted "no distinction", just because Big Ben is such a dick.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:26 PM   #23
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I dunno. I'm all on the Vick bandwagon now. I realize what he did was reprehensible, but you hear about these random pit bulls killing their owners, or their owners kids, and I feel a little less bad. Also, he was raised poorly. Just look at his brother. I voted "no distinction", just because Big Ben is such a dick.

Happy ending for most of Vick's dogs - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

None of that thanks to Vick, of course, but 'random' pit bulls probably aren't 'randomly' attacking people.

Pits who have been trained and socialized that way, almost certainly.

But apparently even the dogs Vick abused, most of them have been rehab-capable, and one of the sweetest dogs I ever knew was a dachsund/pit mix. When her owners' children were small - we're talking toddler age - she used to bear their ear-pulling and nose-biting without complaint.

An old neighbor of mine used to have this absolutely massive Rott who was just incredibly easygoing.

Other side of the coin, one of the meanest damn dogs I ever knew was my cousin's black lab, and that breed is normally pretty friendly and easygoing.

Aggression might be a dominant trait in some breeds more than others, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
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