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Crapshoot · 03-05-2010, 10:56 AM

That's crazy money for a mediocre end who's 31 - cliches about "blue collar white guys" aside, Vanden Bosch is just not very good, no matter what statistics you look at./

Doug5984 · 03-05-2010, 11:07 AM

Saints are close to locking up Jahri Evans and making him one of the highest paid guards in the league. Be nice to get that one done. Next up is locking up Pierre Thomas and Roman Harper.

Radii · 03-05-2010, 11:41 AM

Carolina picking up Vick would be the ultimate letdown after releasing Delhomme, please no! Even before the dogfighting stuff Vick is the guy I disliked more than anyone in my lifetime following football. Living in Atlanta as a Panthers fan during the top of Vick hype was awful... think JeeberD and TO in Dallas, I don't know how I would handle that at all.

RainMaker · 03-05-2010, 12:42 PM

So are the Bears the frontrunners now for Peppers? All signs are pointing to them signing him. I guess I can't complain about the move at all, although I wonder how long the deal will be for and for how much. This is a team that has a lot of needs.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 12:50 PM

I heard 6/72 with half guaranteed.

Sources: Peppers, Taylor signings imminent - Inside the Bears

RainMaker · 03-05-2010, 12:57 PM

I guess that's not bad considering we don't have to dole out for a 1st round pick the next 2 years.

Big Fo · 03-05-2010, 01:13 PM

Miami will be cutting safety Gibril Wilson sometime today, good riddance. He was terrible last year.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 01:16 PM

Wow, now Schefter says $40M guaranteed.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 01:26 PM

Peppers had a questionable motor before this deal, I can't wait to see him now.

Radii · 03-05-2010, 01:28 PM

Carolina Panthers coach John Fox can't fight back tears on Jake Delhomme release - ESPN

Seriously? Releasing a QB that throws 5 picks a game invokes tears but you can't even be bothered to call up Julius Peppers and make him an offer? Fuck You Carolina Management.

Crapshoot · 03-05-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Carolina Panthers coach John Fox can't fight back tears on Jake Delhomme release - ESPN

Seriously? Releasing a QB that throws 5 picks a game invokes tears but you can't even be bothered to call up Julius Peppers and make him an offer? Fuck You Carolina Management.

Hey, gritty white guy who vs. "talented but lazy" - its a sportswriters dream cliche. But Peppers was done in Carolina IMO no matter what.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Schefter says Seattle is close to signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet. If they did that Denver would get the 6th pick in the draft assuming they do not match, which no chance in hell they would.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Seriously? Releasing a QB that throws 5 picks a game invokes tears but you can't even be bothered to call up Julius Peppers and make him an offer? Fuck You Carolina Management.

Tears are a little easier to come up with than $40 million guaranteed.

Crapshoot · 03-05-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Schefter says Seattle is close to signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet. If they did that Denver would get the 6th pick in the draft assuming they do not match, which no chance in hell they would.

Edit: nope, mea culpa. Detox was right. I don't think they do that however. Its interesting - if you had the no 3 pick in last year's draft, wouldn't you want to give it away?

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 01:54 PM

Schefter just reported Marshall is visiting Seattle tomorrow.

RainMaker · 03-05-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Schefter says Seattle is close to signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet. If they did that Denver would get the 6th pick in the draft assuming they do not match, which no chance in hell they would.

Does that give Denver 3 picks in the top 20?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 01:58 PM

No, they lost theirs last year in a trade with Seattle.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Does that give Denver 3 picks in the top 20?

Nope. Seattle has Denvers 1st this year for the DJ Moore trade last year.

path12 · 03-05-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Schefter says Seattle is close to signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet. If they did that Denver would get the 6th pick in the draft assuming they do not match, which no chance in hell they would.

I don't think there is any way the Seahawks give up the 6th pick. If they do the fans here will flip the hell out. Or I will at least.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:08 PM

You would hope Seattle does not do it but who really knows anymore?

Jeremy Bates, their OC, was OC for Marshall in Denver. Their QB coach, Jedd Fisch, was Marshalls WR coach in Denver. I am sure a huge push is going on internally for him.

DataKing · 03-05-2010, 02:10 PM

According to John Clayton, Bears & Peppers is a done deal.

Source: Julius Peppers, Chicago Bears finalize six-year deal - ESPN Chicago

Not sure how I feel about this just yet, given the price tag. At the very least, sports talk radio should be interesting around here for a few days.

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2010, 02:10 PM

Would you rather sign a known commodity that will produce right away or an unknown one that may or may not produce for you a few years down the road?

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Would you rather sign a known commodity that will produce right away or an unknown one that may or may not produce for you a few years down the road?

There is a difference here though. If the cap comes back, you're on the hook for 40 mil guaranteed over the next 3 years for a 30 year old DE, who while elite, has motor issues.

This was a move made by a desperate GM and HC both of which are looking to keep their jobs.

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2010, 02:18 PM

I was actually talking about Seattle and Marshall

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:18 PM

Also, Taylor and Peppers are nice but until the Bears field a real life OL none of it will matter, especially in Martz system where a QB gets killed even with a good OL, let alone the awful OL they have.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I was actually talking about Seattle and Marshall

CLARIFY

Pumpy Tudors · 03-05-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

There is a difference here though. If the cap comes back, you're on the hook for 40 mil guaranteed over the next 3 years for a 30 year old DE, who while elite, has motor issues.

IS HE A ROBOT
HOW DOES HE HAVE MOTOR ISSUES
HOW DOES HE HAVE A MOTOR
HOW OFTEN DO YOU OIL YOUR JULIUS PEPPERS??????

DataKing · 03-05-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

HOW OFTEN DO YOU OIL YOUR JULIUS PEPPERS??????

One oil change every six years. Suggested quantity = however much oil $72m buys you.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

IS HE A ROBOT
HOW DOES HE HAVE MOTOR ISSUES
HOW DOES HE HAVE A MOTOR
HOW OFTEN DO YOU OIL YOUR JULIUS PEPPERS??????

I now find bowling less then favorable.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 02:27 PM

Trashpress reporting that Big Ben has been accused of a sexual assault this morning.

hxxp://www.tmz.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault/

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Trashpress reporting that Big Ben has been accused of a sexual assault this morning.

hxxp://www.tmz.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault/

MikeVic · 03-05-2010, 02:33 PM

Is this that cleaning woman?

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2010, 02:34 PM

New one

MikeVic · 03-05-2010, 02:36 PM

Did she look like this?

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:42 PM

Lions signed Thomas Jones apparently.

DataKing · 03-05-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Lions signed Thomas Jones apparently.

I didn't realize the Jets had released him. Are they planning on a split backfield between Shonn Greene and Leon Washington?

cartman · 03-05-2010, 02:44 PM

WTF was he doing in Milledgeville, GA? That place is in the middle of nowhere.

DeToxRox · 03-05-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DataKing

I didn't realize the Jets had released him. Are they planning on a split backfield between Shonn Greene and Leon Washington?

He was officially released an hour or two ago.

The story is BS though about him signing. The News had a headline of Jones to sign with the Lions but then just linked to an SI speculation piece.

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

He was officially released an hour or two ago.

The story is BS though about him signing. The News had a headline of Jones to sign with the Lions but then just linked to an SI speculation piece.

Quit giving false news...jackass.

Is that clear enough for you?

sabotai · 03-05-2010, 02:47 PM

Antrel Rolle is taking a physical for the Giants right now. Looks like they are about to sign him unless Miami or Arizona comes in with a better offer.

jbergey22 · 03-05-2010, 02:52 PM

Looks like Chester is a Bear now. I feel sorry for the guy!

AP Source: Bears, RB Taylor agree on deal - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 02:57 PM

Boldin trade is getting closer, per Schefter. He has BAL, KC in.

jbergey22 · 03-05-2010, 02:59 PM

This free agency period is just fucked up.

The top teams cant do shit unless they lose a player. What kind of fools set up this arrangement?

Athough it always makes me smile when I see the Bears over pay for 30 year old talent. I guess they probably dont have much choice but they are going to be a complete disaster in 2 years.

Bears motto should be "Lions we are coming for you."

I am sorry Bears fans. I just shake my head everytime their front office does something. None of it makes any sense to me.

In this case they apparently think they are close to being able to compete for the NFC championship so they are going to put all of their eggs in one basket and watch it all come crashing down on them.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 03-05-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Boldin trade is getting closer, per Schefter. He has BAL, KC in.

And National Football Post says Pats are the frontrunner.

Source: Patriots are the frontrunners for Boldin | National Football Post

jbergey22 · 03-05-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

And National Football Post says Pats are the frontrunner.

Source: Patriots are the frontrunners for Boldin | National Football Post

That is scary! Moss, Boldin, and Welker if he makes it back.

Kodos · 03-05-2010, 03:24 PM

Welker will make it back. He's too scrappy not to.

Radii · 03-05-2010, 03:31 PM

The ESPN Article says:

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Peppers was looking for at least $12 million a year in the early part of the contract. The agreement could be worth $40 million over the first three years.

It doesn't say $40 million guarenteed, I'll be curious to see the exact details once they are known. One of the earlier stories mentioned that the Eagles and Patriots were offering $10 million/year, so $12/year for the first 3 years does not really seem that outrageous to me. The only two people with more sacks during the same timeframe as Peppers career are Jason Taylor and Dwight Freeney, each with something like 4 more sacks than Peppers.

The fact that Peppers was a UNC basketball player who went on to star for my favorite NFL team obviously means there's homerism at work here... but it was the $16 million franchise tag last year and the fact that franchising him again would be $20 million this year that was outrageous. If Carolina could have kept him for 3/36 with some fluff behind that I would have been thrilled.

Carolina has had chronic injury problems at DT in recent years, last year losing both starters for the season, increasing the number of double teams Peppers would get, yet still ends up with 10 sacks/5 forced fumbles and a crazy athletic INT here and there.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

Carolina has had chronic injury problems at DT in recent years, last year losing both starters for the season, increasing the number of double teams Peppers would get, yet still ends up with 10 sacks/5 forced fumbles and a crazy athletic INT here and there.

Yes. I am not looking forward to watching him embarass Jeff Backus and destroy Matthew Stafford twice year, despite his defective motor problems.

DaddyTorgo · 03-05-2010, 03:40 PM

If the Pats get Boldin I might die happy.

He'd be a great addition to Brady's arsenal.

DaddyTorgo · 03-05-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22

This free agency period is just fucked up.

The top teams cant do shit unless they lose a player. What kind of fools set up this arrangement?

really??? i like it.

03-05-2010, 12:50 PM	#355
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I heard 6/72 with half guaranteed. Sources: Peppers, Taylor signings imminent - Inside the Bears __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 03-05-2010 at 12:50 PM.

03-05-2010, 01:16 PM	#358
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Wow, now Schefter says $40M guaranteed. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-05-2010, 01:58 PM	#367
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	No, they lost theirs last year in a trade with Seattle. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-05-2010, 02:10 PM	#371
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	According to John Clayton, Bears & Peppers is a done deal. Source: Julius Peppers, Chicago Bears finalize six-year deal - ESPN Chicago Not sure how I feel about this just yet, given the price tag. At the very least, sports talk radio should be interesting around here for a few days. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

03-05-2010, 02:27 PM	#380
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Trashpress reporting that Big Ben has been accused of a sexual assault this morning. hxxp://www.tmz.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault/ __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-05-2010, 10:56 AM	#351
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	That's crazy money for a mediocre end who's 31 - cliches about "blue collar white guys" aside, Vanden Bosch is just not very good, no matter what statistics you look at./

03-05-2010, 11:07 AM	#352
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	Saints are close to locking up Jahri Evans and making him one of the highest paid guards in the league. Be nice to get that one done. Next up is locking up Pierre Thomas and Roman Harper.

03-05-2010, 11:41 AM	#353
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Carolina picking up Vick would be the ultimate letdown after releasing Delhomme, please no! Even before the dogfighting stuff Vick is the guy I disliked more than anyone in my lifetime following football. Living in Atlanta as a Panthers fan during the top of Vick hype was awful... think JeeberD and TO in Dallas, I don't know how I would handle that at all.

03-05-2010, 12:42 PM	#354
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	So are the Bears the frontrunners now for Peppers? All signs are pointing to them signing him. I guess I can't complain about the move at all, although I wonder how long the deal will be for and for how much. This is a team that has a lot of needs.

03-05-2010, 12:57 PM	#356
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I guess that's not bad considering we don't have to dole out for a 1st round pick the next 2 years.

03-05-2010, 01:13 PM	#357
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Miami will be cutting safety Gibril Wilson sometime today, good riddance. He was terrible last year.

03-05-2010, 01:26 PM	#359
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Peppers had a questionable motor before this deal, I can't wait to see him now.

03-05-2010, 01:28 PM	#360
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Carolina Panthers coach John Fox can't fight back tears on Jake Delhomme release - ESPN Seriously? Releasing a QB that throws 5 picks a game invokes tears but you can't even be bothered to call up Julius Peppers and make him an offer? Fuck You Carolina Management.

03-05-2010, 01:42 PM	#362
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Schefter says Seattle is close to signing Brandon Marshall to an offer sheet. If they did that Denver would get the 6th pick in the draft assuming they do not match, which no chance in hell they would.

03-05-2010, 01:54 PM	#365
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Schefter just reported Marshall is visiting Seattle tomorrow.

03-05-2010, 02:08 PM	#370
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	You would hope Seattle does not do it but who really knows anymore? Jeremy Bates, their OC, was OC for Marshall in Denver. Their QB coach, Jedd Fisch, was Marshalls WR coach in Denver. I am sure a huge push is going on internally for him.

03-05-2010, 02:10 PM	#372
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Would you rather sign a known commodity that will produce right away or an unknown one that may or may not produce for you a few years down the road?

03-05-2010, 02:18 PM	#374
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I was actually talking about Seattle and Marshall

03-05-2010, 02:18 PM	#375
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Also, Taylor and Peppers are nice but until the Bears field a real life OL none of it will matter, especially in Martz system where a QB gets killed even with a good OL, let alone the awful OL they have.

03-05-2010, 02:33 PM	#382
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Is this that cleaning woman?

03-05-2010, 02:34 PM	#383
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	New one

03-05-2010, 02:36 PM	#384
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Did she look like this?

03-05-2010, 02:42 PM	#385
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Lions signed Thomas Jones apparently.

03-05-2010, 02:44 PM	#387
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	WTF was he doing in Milledgeville, GA? That place is in the middle of nowhere. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-05-2010, 02:47 PM	#390
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Antrel Rolle is taking a physical for the Giants right now. Looks like they are about to sign him unless Miami or Arizona comes in with a better offer.

03-05-2010, 02:52 PM	#391
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Looks like Chester is a Bear now. I feel sorry for the guy! AP Source: Bears, RB Taylor agree on deal - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

03-05-2010, 02:57 PM	#392
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Boldin trade is getting closer, per Schefter. He has BAL, KC in. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-05-2010, 02:59 PM	#393
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	This free agency period is just fucked up. The top teams cant do shit unless they lose a player. What kind of fools set up this arrangement? Athough it always makes me smile when I see the Bears over pay for 30 year old talent. I guess they probably dont have much choice but they are going to be a complete disaster in 2 years. Bears motto should be "Lions we are coming for you." I am sorry Bears fans. I just shake my head everytime their front office does something. None of it makes any sense to me. In this case they apparently think they are close to being able to compete for the NFC championship so they are going to put all of their eggs in one basket and watch it all come crashing down on them. Last edited by jbergey22 : 03-05-2010 at 03:04 PM.

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