Slow on the uptake? FOF 5.1d Patch released....

FBPro · 06-14-2005, 06:31 PM

http://www.solecismic.com/support/index.php Sorry Ben, couldn't wait....

QuikSand · 06-14-2005, 06:32 PM

The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1d of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions):

1) Fixed an issue that caused the first play of all games simulated in the same second to use the same random number sequences.

2) Added warnings in the multi-player game for when an exported stage file might cause the AI to shuffle the depth chart or make roster changes.

3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game.

4) Fixed an improper rejection of rookie contracts for cap reasons when the owner already has 53 players signed in the multi-player game.

5) Cleaned up some printing problems on the career statistics screen.

6) Added some conditions that might generate contract holdouts for underpaid players.

Emiliano · 06-14-2005, 06:45 PM

Wow. Well, since I've still never said it "loud&clear" on the board: Jim, thanks for making this great game, and thanks again for the excellent support. You have a customer for life here. I'm really waiting, as everybody, for your next game's announce.

jbmagic · 06-14-2005, 06:45 PM

wow i love the #2 feature

5.1d should be an expansion

thanks Jim

Joe · 06-14-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Emiliano

Wow. Well, since I've still never said it "loud&clear" on the board: Jim, thanks for making this great game, and thanks again for the excellent support. You have a customer for life here. I'm really waiting, as everybody, for your next game's announce.

What if the next game sucks?

MizzouRah · 06-14-2005, 07:15 PM

Good find FBPro!!

Todd

Kodos · 06-14-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

What if the next game sucks?

Inconceivable!

Unless it deals with boring sports like baseball or hockey.

SackAttack · 06-14-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Inconceivable!

Unless it deals with boring sports like baseball or hockey.

You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

stevew · 06-14-2005, 07:45 PM

Is there a fix list?

jbmagic · 06-14-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Is there a fix list?

2nd post on top

stevew · 06-14-2005, 07:54 PM

Oh okay, now i see why i missed it.

gottimd · 06-14-2005, 07:54 PM

1) Fixed an issue that caused the first play of all games simulated in the same second to use the same random number sequences.

Was this that Return for TD on the kickoff issue?

3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game.
What was wrong with it? Maybe its just the wookie like instincts in me, but I didn't see anything that was wrong.

6) Added some conditions that might generate contract holdouts for underpaid players.
Care to Elaborate? Weather conditions?

Celeval · 06-14-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

1) Fixed an issue that caused the first play of all games simulated in the same second to use the same random number sequences.

Was this that Return for TD on the kickoff issue?

Yes, although that was just a symptom - there were consistant stretches of touchbacks, coin flips, etc as well.

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3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game.
What was wrong with it? Maybe its just the wookie like instincts in me, but I didn't see anything that was wrong.

It's a question of when the salaries are calculated - should be as calculated at the end of last season, iirc; not at the beginning of the new - this could cause wild franchise salaries due to balloon payments and the like.

Pyser · 06-14-2005, 08:40 PM

the 5.1b player file should still work with this patch, right?

A-Husker-4-Life · 06-14-2005, 08:40 PM

I don't see a place to pay $10.00...?????

Izulde · 06-14-2005, 08:49 PM

Nice to see a patch, though not all that much for the solo player here.

Chubby · 06-14-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Nice to see a patch, though not all that much for the solo player here.

I think SP is pretty well tuned and I certainly wouldn't expect Jim to put time into tweaking a 2 year old game unless there's a big issue (like #1 on the fix list) I'd rather have him work on his new game(s)

Ben E Lou · 06-14-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Good find FBPro!!

Todd

Actually not. I told him about it....after it had been on the Solecismic page, as well as the front page of FOFC, for a little over an hour without comment. You people are slippin'.

gstelmack · 06-14-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

as well as the front page of FOFC

We have a web page

jshipman2 · 06-14-2005, 09:46 PM

I am having a problem installing the patch. I downloaded it and saved it to my computer. Opened it and ran it and got this message: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.NT. This system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.

Ben E Lou · 06-14-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jshipman2

I am having a problem installing the patch. I downloaded it and saved it to my computer. Opened it and ran it and got this message: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.NT. This system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.

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Originally Posted by Solecismic FAQ

I am receiving an error referring to a system file deemed unsuitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications (Autoexec.bat or Config.sys). Sometimes I see a message referring to a "16-bit subsystem" or autoexec.nt. What can I do?

Windows XP still uses these system files, even though they're less important than they were in the past, and can be targeted by malicious programmers and spyware. Please visit Microsoft Support for a description of this particular problem. Also, you can go to Visual Tour.com and download their XP_Fix.EXE program. This often clears up the problem.

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jshipman2 · 06-14-2005, 09:52 PM

Thanks, Skydog! That fixed the problem.

MrBigglesworth · 06-15-2005, 12:06 AM

Anyone else having problems connecting to the download site?

Suicane75 · 06-15-2005, 12:25 AM

it is slow.

Izulde · 06-15-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I think SP is pretty well tuned and I certainly wouldn't expect Jim to put time into tweaking a 2 year old game unless there's a big issue (like #1 on the fix list) I'd rather have him work on his new game(s)

Good point. I keep forgetting it's been out that long.

Sure would be nice to see a TCY2, though.

A-Husker-4-Life · 06-15-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

sure would be nice to see a TCY2, though.

I think we all would like to see TCY2

Ben E Lou · 06-15-2005, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

it is slow.

As usual, the mirror site in the reference thread is available, and much faster:

FRONT OFFICE FOOTBALL 2004

wade moore · 06-15-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

It's a question of when the salaries are calculated - should be as calculated at the end of last season, iirc; not at the beginning of the new - this could cause wild franchise salaries due to balloon payments and the like.

Actually, I understood it a little different..

I thought the problem was that if more than one team franchised the same position, they received different values on their contract because it readjusted the franchise value based on what the first player received?

MIJB#19 · 06-15-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

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3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game.

It's a question of when the salaries are calculated - should be as calculated at the end of last season, iirc; not at the beginning of the new - this could cause wild franchise salaries due to balloon payments and the like.

I'm making a guess that this refers to the bug that would assign different franchise values to players of the same position as the franchise salary was being calculated based on the inclusion of the previous players' franchise salary.

MizzouRah · 06-15-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

As usual, the mirror site in the reference thread is available, and much faster:

FRONT OFFICE FOOTBALL 2004

You aint a kiddin SD, 455 kb/sec.

MizzouRah · 06-15-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Actually not. I told him about it....after it had been on the Solecismic page, as well as the front page of FOFC, for a little over an hour without comment. You people are slippin'.

Who expects anymore updates?

Ben E Lou · 06-15-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

You aint a kiddin SD, 455 kb/sec.

That server is insane. Unlimited bandwidth, wonderful download speeds, and I'm paying a whopping $9.99 a month.

MizzouRah · 06-15-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

That server is insane. Unlimited bandwidth, wonderful download speeds, and I'm paying a whopping $9.99 a month.

Why that's the same thing as getting an expansion pack for a game!

Pyser · 06-15-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

I'm making a guess that this refers to the bug that would assign different franchise values to players of the same position as the franchise salary was being calculated based on the inclusion of the previous players' franchise salary.

this was definitely fixed in an earlier patch.

i have no idea what this new update does, though. my guess would be like others mentioned, it wasnt correctly assigning the proper value of the franchise tag....guess the math was off somewhere.

06-14-2005, 06:45 PM	#4
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	wow i love the #2 feature 5.1d should be an expansion thanks Jim Last edited by jbmagic : 06-14-2005 at 06:47 PM.

06-14-2005, 07:15 PM	#6
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Good find FBPro!! Todd Last edited by MizzouRah : 06-14-2005 at 07:16 PM.

06-14-2005, 07:54 PM	#12
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	1) Fixed an issue that caused the first play of all games simulated in the same second to use the same random number sequences. Was this that Return for TD on the kickoff issue? 3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game. What was wrong with it? Maybe its just the wookie like instincts in me, but I didn't see anything that was wrong. 6) Added some conditions that might generate contract holdouts for underpaid players. Care to Elaborate? Weather conditions? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

06-14-2005, 08:40 PM	#15
A-Husker-4-Life College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nebraska	I don't see a place to pay $10.00...????? __________________ JJ Smitty Owner of the TheC.F.L. - Come by and check us out.

06-14-2005, 08:49 PM	#16
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Nice to see a patch, though not all that much for the solo player here. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

06-14-2005, 06:32 PM	#2
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	The following items were fixed or added for version 5.1d of Front Office Football 2004 (the patch also includes all fixes from earlier versions): 1) Fixed an issue that caused the first play of all games simulated in the same second to use the same random number sequences. 2) Added warnings in the multi-player game for when an exported stage file might cause the AI to shuffle the depth chart or make roster changes. 3) Fixed the assignment of salaries for franchise players in the multi-player game. 4) Fixed an improper rejection of rookie contracts for cap reasons when the owner already has 53 players signed in the multi-player game. 5) Cleaned up some printing problems on the career statistics screen. 6) Added some conditions that might generate contract holdouts for underpaid players.

06-14-2005, 06:45 PM	#3
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	Wow. Well, since I've still never said it "loud&clear" on the board: Jim, thanks for making this great game, and thanks again for the excellent support. You have a customer for life here. I'm really waiting, as everybody, for your next game's announce.

06-14-2005, 07:45 PM	#9
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is there a fix list?

06-14-2005, 08:40 PM	#14
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	the 5.1b player file should still work with this patch, right?

06-14-2005, 09:46 PM	#20
jshipman2 Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburg, KS	I am having a problem installing the patch. I downloaded it and saved it to my computer. Opened it and ran it and got this message: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.NT. This system file is not suitable for running MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.

06-14-2005, 09:52 PM	#22
jshipman2 Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburg, KS	Thanks, Skydog! That fixed the problem.

06-15-2005, 12:06 AM	#23
MrBigglesworth College Starter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PA	Anyone else having problems connecting to the download site?

06-15-2005, 12:25 AM	#24
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	it is slow.

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