NFL in Los Angeles - Page 2

Pyser · 12-16-2010, 10:31 PM

the stadium would go exactly where the convention center is, i believe

MrBug708 · 12-16-2010, 10:33 PM

It only looks like it is going on part of it

DanGarion · 12-17-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

This has been tried, twice.

Franchises dont run on demographics, smog and overpopulation. Los Angeles is the cornhole of the ass that is the state of California.

Any team moving to LA will instantly become my least favorite NFL team.

Yes the cornhole of the ass, it's amazing how many people want to live here, in our 75 degree during the winter, never having to deal with ice and snow weather.

DanGarion · 12-17-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Such as...?

It's not my money, so I don't really care - but I'm genuinely curious why a stadium in L.A. would need any kind of roof.

If you understand anything about the concept the stadium would be used as part of the LA Convention Center when it is not in football use.

DanGarion · 12-17-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

just to be clear, that video is not for the downtown stadium. thats the one in city of industry, pretty far east of la

It's actually LA County, so depending on what you consider "LA" it's right there. And it's MUCH MUCH more convenient to the 3+ Million of us that live in Orange County.

Mantle2600 · 12-17-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Eh, just move the Rams back home.

I don't think Cleveland can handle 2 teams

sovereignstar v2 · 12-18-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Yes the cornhole of the ass, it's amazing how many people want to live here, in our 75 degree during the winter, never having to deal with ice and snow weather.

FUCK YEAH SIGN ME UP WINTER AND ICE SUCKS

Mike Lowe · 12-18-2010, 12:38 AM

That last image looks like it was created by Teflon Skies from the OOTP forums. It's eerie!

jbergey22 · 12-18-2010, 12:52 AM

I am bias but I dont see how the Vikings would be anyones #1 prediction to be moved. The Vikings have a large fanbase that takes them into 4-5 states. I know in the end it will all end up in the hands of Zygi however I feel the NFL will do all that they can to keep the Vikings where they are and push a different team into LA. It really would not be in the NFL's best interest to push them out of Minnesota. Yes, they get into the 2nd largest market however they are pushing a team out of a region with a large fanbase which basically accomplishes nothing except piss off their current fans that they may not get back without a team to cheer for in the region.

I would speculate Jacksonville followed by the Chargers would be my guess. The Bills will probably be soon heading to Toronto.

If the Vikings were to move Id have to become a Chiefs fan. Actually, Id probably just cheer for my fantasy football teams and have no rooting interest in anything except watching the LA Vikings lose.

Pyser · 12-18-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

It's actually LA County, so depending on what you consider "LA" it's right there. And it's MUCH MUCH more convenient to the 3+ Million of us that live in Orange County.

no one in los angeles considers that part of the city. county, sure, but come on

and i know you know this, but no one up here cares about the commute of OCers. however, i do see your point, but you all make it to laker games just fine

DanGarion · 12-18-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

no one in los angeles considers that part of the city. county, sure, but come on

and i know you know this, but no one up here cares about the commute of OCers. however, i do see your point, but you all make it to laker games just fine

I do everything I can to avoid LA, so I'm not one of those idiots that got to Laker games.

RainMaker · 12-18-2010, 01:46 PM

As a Bears fan, I would be bummed if the Vikings left. They've been a long rival. I also went to college in Minnesota and it's got good fans who love football. Never remember there being an issue with blackouts. And I'm guessing if they can get a good stadium, it would only help things out there.

Pyser · 12-18-2010, 02:38 PM

fwiw, almost all of the nfl talk of a team moving here has been focused on the chargers. at least according to the la times, anyway

Pyser · 02-01-2011, 12:50 PM

"Farmers Field" may become a new home for the NFL. Backers of a plan to build a football stadium in downtown Los Angeles are set to announce Tuesday that they have reached a naming-rights deal worth $700 million, which would be the most valuable naming-rights agreement ever and a significant step toward bringing an NFL team to Los Angeles. AEG, the huge entertainment company that, among other holdings, owns Staples Center and the L.A. Live complex, plans to announce a 30-year agreement with Farmers Insurance. The deal would provide AEG's proposed project a crucial chunk of contractually obligated income, starting at $20 million for the first year and escalating incrementally every year after, according to individuals familiar with the negotiations but not involved in them.

Rizon · 02-01-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Send the Raiders back down there...please.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

We don't want them here. And by WE I mean me.

Big Fo · 02-01-2011, 06:22 PM

Keep the Raiders, Vikings, and Chargers where they are. Let the Jaguars move to LA. There's as many Dolphin fans as Jaguar fans in that part of the country anyway, if not more. If this happens, the Dolphins would be the closest AFC team to me so I won't have to watch them on the Internet or in bars so often. That'd be great.

RedKingGold · 02-01-2011, 06:49 PM

I'd think the Chargers are a near certainty to move to LA.

JediKooter · 02-01-2011, 06:59 PM

I'd say it's 50/50 the Chargers go back to LA.

M GO BLUE!!! · 02-01-2011, 07:58 PM

The latest design study for Farmers Field.

MrBug708 · 02-01-2011, 08:15 PM

Clever

JonInMiddleGA · 02-01-2011, 08:32 PM

Hmm ... a Farmer's Field in Los Angeles ... I'm pretty sure there's an Immigration & Naturalization joke in there somewhere*

*Strictly going for the humor here folks, previous wisecrack is not intended as socio-political commentary & should not be construed as such

cuervo72 · 02-01-2011, 08:39 PM

Build it...and they will come

Izulde · 02-01-2011, 09:38 PM

In other news, one of the billionaires trying to get an NFL team back to LA is also part of a group discussing building a 40,000 seat domed stadium on UNLV's campus.

I'm not a fan of domed stadiums, but it'd be awesome to have the football stadium on campus and not, you know, way the fuck out nowhere in the middle of the desert.

Developers put early plans for UNLV stadium, retail district on display - Tuesday, Feb. 1, 2011 | 9:30 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun

DaddyTorgo · 02-01-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Hmm ... a Farmer's Field in Los Angeles ... I'm pretty sure there's an Immigration & Naturalization joke in there somewhere*

*Strictly going for the humor here folks, previous wisecrack is not intended as socio-political commentary & should not be construed as such

Good one! (no...seriously)

Izulde · 02-01-2011, 10:17 PM

I really do hope they build the UNLV stadium, especially if they include all the retail and housing stuff as well.

This campus has almost no effect on its surrounding neighborhood, but that would all change if the proposal goes through and gets built.

Warhammer · 02-02-2011, 09:24 AM

Move the Rams back to LA, Jags can move to St. Loo

JediKooter · 02-02-2011, 10:34 AM

I think I read a few weeks ago that the Chargers have declined or will decline to opt out of their current contract with the city of San Diego. So, for now, they aren't going anywhere.

Pyser · 02-07-2011, 09:55 PM

ha! from the LA Times today, about their coverage of the Farmers Field press conference:

If responses sent to [email protected] are indicative of broader public opinion in Los Angeles, support for the proposed downtown NFL stadium was confined entirely to the halls of the L.A. Convention Center, where boosters and local pols held a gala on Tuesday to christen the not-yet-shovel-ready Farmers Field.

As of 2 p.m. Friday, not a single one of the dozens of letters submissions on the topic expressed support for the stadium. Two were borderline.

Pyser · 10-10-2013, 12:15 PM

long abandoned thread, not much movement on either field.

i did like the artwork for both proposed stadiums though (sorry its so small)

Kodos · 10-10-2013, 12:16 PM

The one on the left looks awful.

Chief Rum · 10-10-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

The one on the left looks awful.

While the look is not great, it is well-designed for flight.

Chief Rum · 10-10-2013, 12:49 PM

I hear they're going to call it "Shoulder Pad Stadium".

I'll be here all week.

cuervo72 · 10-10-2013, 01:11 PM

Nah, that's what I thought too, CR.

Pyser · 02-20-2015, 01:54 PM

havent updated this thread in a while but excited that la will soon have 21 teams!

Chief Rum · 02-20-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

havent updated this thread in a while but excited that la will soon have 21 teams!

lol...thank you. It gets confusing tracking all of this stuff.

So now we have four people willing to build stadiums for NFL teams.

1. The forgotten proposal for a stadium out in Walnut to the east of LA that I presume at this point is getting no traction at all.
2. AEG's Farmer Field plans next to Staples
3. Stan Kroenke and his Hollywood Park land stadium plan, presumeably for the Rams.
4. And now the Super Stadium in Carson, to be co-used by the Raiders and Chargers.

I'm really only hoping for the Rams, so I can become a Rams fan again.

Pyser · 02-20-2015, 01:59 PM

here's where 17 of them will play in carson:

Pyser · 02-20-2015, 02:01 PM

if i ran the chargers i would move to anaheim. halfway between sd and la, and oh yeah, a pretty big market in its own right. everyone wins...even if the rams move to la.

plus the san diego chargers of los angeles of anaheim has a GREAT ring to it.

albionmoonlight · 02-20-2015, 02:07 PM

Personal prediction:

One team will move to LA soon (no idea which). NFL will informally block move of any other teams. This will enable the NFL to continue to use the LA market to blackmail cities into overspending on stadiums and giveaways.

If two teams go to LA, then that market can no longer be used to extort other cities. What's left then? London?

Pyser · 02-20-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

If two teams go to LA, then that market can no longer be used to extort other cities. What's left then? London?

st louis and san antonio.

im all for 2 teams in 1 stadium here. but i'd prefer zero teams to be honest, i cant afford tickets and dont want the traffic (like that the proposed locations are out of the way, except for the team-less downtown option). rams and chargers teaming up makes sense to me.

BillJasper · 02-20-2015, 03:37 PM

I really don't see a reason for the NFL to block Kroenke from taking the Rams back to LA? He has the money to build his own stadium.

That stadium pictured above is butt-ugly. Plus it would be odd to have two teams in the same division sharing a stadium. Though I guess it could increase interest of LA fans.

Jon · 02-20-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

I really don't see a reason for the NFL to block Kroenke from taking the Rams back to LA? He has the money to build his own stadium.

That stadium pictured above is butt-ugly. Plus it would be odd to have two teams in the same division sharing a stadium. Though I guess it could increase interest of LA fans.

I've read that if both the Chargers and Raiders relocate to LA, then one of those teams will swap places with Seattle in the NFC.

Thomkal · 02-20-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

I've read that if both the Chargers and Raiders relocate to LA, then one of those teams will swap places with Seattle in the NFC.

The NFC West will gladly take the Raiders for Seattle

britrock88 · 02-20-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

I've read that if both the Chargers and Raiders relocate to LA, then one of those teams will swap places with Seattle in the NFC.

I'm most interested in this swap.

Would it be Seattle? Makes sense given their history, but what about all their recent success?

What if you put the Rams in the AFC West and created an intense cross-Missouri rivalry?

And which of the Raiders and Chargers would go the other way? They're both founding AFL franchises... I would think it'd be easier for the Chargers to sever ties with rivals.

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12-18-2010, 12:52 AM	#59
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I am bias but I dont see how the Vikings would be anyones #1 prediction to be moved. The Vikings have a large fanbase that takes them into 4-5 states. I know in the end it will all end up in the hands of Zygi however I feel the NFL will do all that they can to keep the Vikings where they are and push a different team into LA. It really would not be in the NFL's best interest to push them out of Minnesota. Yes, they get into the 2nd largest market however they are pushing a team out of a region with a large fanbase which basically accomplishes nothing except piss off their current fans that they may not get back without a team to cheer for in the region. I would speculate Jacksonville followed by the Chargers would be my guess. The Bills will probably be soon heading to Toronto. If the Vikings were to move Id have to become a Chiefs fan. Actually, Id probably just cheer for my fantasy football teams and have no rooting interest in anything except watching the LA Vikings lose. Last edited by jbergey22 : 12-18-2010 at 01:05 AM.

02-01-2011, 06:59 PM	#68
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I'd say it's 50/50 the Chargers go back to LA. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

02-01-2011, 08:32 PM	#71
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12-16-2010, 10:33 PM	#52
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It only looks like it is going on part of it

12-18-2010, 01:46 PM	#62
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	As a Bears fan, I would be bummed if the Vikings left. They've been a long rival. I also went to college in Minnesota and it's got good fans who love football. Never remember there being an issue with blackouts. And I'm guessing if they can get a good stadium, it would only help things out there.

12-18-2010, 02:38 PM	#63
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	fwiw, almost all of the nfl talk of a team moving here has been focused on the chargers. at least according to the la times, anyway

02-01-2011, 12:50 PM	#64
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	"Farmers Field" may become a new home for the NFL. Backers of a plan to build a football stadium in downtown Los Angeles are set to announce Tuesday that they have reached a naming-rights deal worth $700 million, which would be the most valuable naming-rights agreement ever and a significant step toward bringing an NFL team to Los Angeles. AEG, the huge entertainment company that, among other holdings, owns Staples Center and the L.A. Live complex, plans to announce a 30-year agreement with Farmers Insurance. The deal would provide AEG's proposed project a crucial chunk of contractually obligated income, starting at $20 million for the first year and escalating incrementally every year after, according to individuals familiar with the negotiations but not involved in them.

02-01-2011, 06:22 PM	#66
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Keep the Raiders, Vikings, and Chargers where they are. Let the Jaguars move to LA. There's as many Dolphin fans as Jaguar fans in that part of the country anyway, if not more. If this happens, the Dolphins would be the closest AFC team to me so I won't have to watch them on the Internet or in bars so often. That'd be great.

02-01-2011, 06:49 PM	#67
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I'd think the Chargers are a near certainty to move to LA.

02-01-2011, 07:58 PM	#69
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	The latest design study for Farmers Field.

02-01-2011, 08:15 PM	#70
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Clever

02-01-2011, 09:38 PM	#73
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	In other news, one of the billionaires trying to get an NFL team back to LA is also part of a group discussing building a 40,000 seat domed stadium on UNLV's campus. I'm not a fan of domed stadiums, but it'd be awesome to have the football stadium on campus and not, you know, way the fuck out nowhere in the middle of the desert. Developers put early plans for UNLV stadium, retail district on display - Tuesday, Feb. 1, 2011 \| 9:30 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

02-01-2011, 10:17 PM	#75
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I really do hope they build the UNLV stadium, especially if they include all the retail and housing stuff as well. This campus has almost no effect on its surrounding neighborhood, but that would all change if the proposal goes through and gets built. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

02-02-2011, 09:24 AM	#76
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Move the Rams back to LA, Jags can move to St. Loo

02-02-2011, 10:34 AM	#77
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I think I read a few weeks ago that the Chargers have declined or will decline to opt out of their current contract with the city of San Diego. So, for now, they aren't going anywhere. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

02-07-2011, 09:55 PM	#78
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	ha! from the LA Times today, about their coverage of the Farmers Field press conference: If responses sent to [email protected] are indicative of broader public opinion in Los Angeles, support for the proposed downtown NFL stadium was confined entirely to the halls of the L.A. Convention Center, where boosters and local pols held a gala on Tuesday to christen the not-yet-shovel-ready Farmers Field. As of 2 p.m. Friday, not a single one of the dozens of letters submissions on the topic expressed support for the stadium. Two were borderline.

10-10-2013, 12:15 PM	#79
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	long abandoned thread, not much movement on either field. i did like the artwork for both proposed stadiums though (sorry its so small)

10-10-2013, 12:16 PM	#80
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10-10-2013, 01:11 PM	#83
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Nah, that's what I thought too, CR. __________________ null

02-20-2015, 01:54 PM	#84
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	havent updated this thread in a while but excited that la will soon have 21 teams!

02-20-2015, 01:59 PM	#86
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	here's where 17 of them will play in carson:

02-20-2015, 02:01 PM	#87
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	if i ran the chargers i would move to anaheim. halfway between sd and la, and oh yeah, a pretty big market in its own right. everyone wins...even if the rams move to la. plus the san diego chargers of los angeles of anaheim has a GREAT ring to it. Last edited by Pyser : 02-20-2015 at 02:02 PM.

02-20-2015, 02:07 PM	#88
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Personal prediction: One team will move to LA soon (no idea which). NFL will informally block move of any other teams. This will enable the NFL to continue to use the LA market to blackmail cities into overspending on stadiums and giveaways. If two teams go to LA, then that market can no longer be used to extort other cities. What's left then? London?

02-20-2015, 03:37 PM	#90
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I really don't see a reason for the NFL to block Kroenke from taking the Rams back to LA? He has the money to build his own stadium. That stadium pictured above is butt-ugly. Plus it would be odd to have two teams in the same division sharing a stadium. Though I guess it could increase interest of LA fans. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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